Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[Ohwell]

31 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Maybe he should just pick out a Par 3 course in Baltimore to play at. Would that make Joe happy?  

No, Joe thinks Obama should be serving mint juleps at the clubhouse.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Ohwell

[Mumbles]

The Trump Foundation and his lack of public tax returns are indeed important issues, but the idea that Mika posed that these "cancel out" the Clinton email issue is absurd. We're not kids multiplying fractions here. Both are important issues that need to be reviewed and taken into account.

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Has Donnie always been this outraged about Trump?

He has been at least since the GOP convention.  The irony is, my suspicion is, if Trump loses this, Donnie will be yukking him up on the NY party scene like this never happened.

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No, Joe thinks Obama should be serving mint juleps at the clubhouse.

 I have my issues with Joe, but I have never heard him express racist views.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Mumbles

[Landsnark]

I don't think the show should campaign for Clinton, but they sure as shit owe it to the world to stand against Trump's lies, something they are only just now doing with any energy.  They should explicate every single one of his lies, acts of malfeasance, and hypocritical statements.  And they should cover the investigations into him with the same smug assurance of guilt that they applied to every faux Hillary Clinton "scandal."  For example, a nearly straight line (not really, but why not say "People are saying?") can be drawn from KGB hacking of numerous Democrat-affiliated servers to Donald Trump's candidacy.  If true, literally the most explosive development in American political history.  If almost true, Trump agents should look at life in prison.  If not true, payback is fair game.

MJ should have had a bed of circus music underneath every one of Trump's 40+ appearances on their show over the past 12 months.

Katie Tur was on set.  I really like Katie Tur. 

Edited September 15, 2016 by Landsnark
I used a word wrongly. Dammit. Wrote myself into a corner. Forgive me.

[MulletorHater]

3 hours ago, oakville said:

Thursday Recap. Joe is off. Mika is wearing a navy blue top. Donnie,Halperin & Barnicle are there. Mika is very upset the poll are showing Trump "ahead by 5 in Ohio". Mika can't believe it. Mika didn't like Trump going on Dr Oz. Donnie said it's a circus how he is teasing his medical records. Josh Green said the pro clinton areas of Oho are not as enthusiastic. Donnie wanted to know if Trump has erectile dysfunction. Mika got flustered & her friends started texting her on the air with "OMG". Donnie is the voice of outrage today. He's furious that Trump's business dealings aren't getting more attention.

Mika said she is writing a book? about women speaking up for themselves. LOL!

The next topic is if Trump wins, he would have to do more than a blind trust for his companies. The kids could mange it but they are not independent.

Donnie is upset that Trump lies fast food.

Donnie said Trump will brag a lot about leading in the polls.

Oakville, thank you so much for your recap!  

Now, about our dear Meek-a's writing a book about women speaking up for themselves...as Bugs Bunny once said, it is to laugh!  I never fully appreciated Meek-a's comedic timing until now.  She's a funny woman!  Unintentionally, I'm sure but funny nonetheless!

ETA:  Did they not discuss Trump's appearance in Flint, Michigan yesterday and how he got shut down by that female pastor?  Did they at least talk about how distinctly uncomfortable Trump looked when that small gathering of folks started peppering him with questions?  Talk about optics!

1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

Maybe he should just pick out a Par 3 course in Baltimore to play at. Would that make Joe happy?  

For real!  I wonder what the heck that was about?  Is it "the optics?" perhaps?

I mean, the man has only been the President of the United States for two terms, graduated from Ivy League schools, was a Law Review editor, taught constitutional law, and has a list of other accomplishments.  Yet, Joe is one of the biggest wannabes I've ever seen.  

Edited September 15, 2016 by MulletorHater

[Nidratime]

Halperin sat there this morning with a sour look on his face as the panel was spending some time talking about Trump's lack of transparency and questions about his business and charitable dealings. Eventually, Halperin's only come back was "Trump's ahead by five points," as if he were channeling Trump, himself. Did Halperin say the same thing when Hillary was so far ahead and people were bringing up issues with her? Like, none of your questions matter about her because she's ahead in the polls! I doubt he said that.

In fact, Halperin's answer to why he appears to be giving Trump a pass is because Trump's a businessman running for office and, I assume, any questions about how he does business would discourage other businessmen from doing the same. Except, that's not true. Plenty of business people have run for office and some have done a decent job, like Mike Bloomberg. Trump does not represent all business people, I hope, or our country is in serious trouble. There are decent people who run businesses and do charitable work who are on the up-and-up, and -- speaking for myself -- I'd have no problem with them running for office. But, Trump is a carnival barker, a charlatan, and a huckster and we don't need that kind of person in the presidency.

[teddysmom]

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ETA:  Did they not discuss Trump's appearance in Flint, Michigan yesterday and how he got shut down by that female pastor?  Did they at least talk about how distinctly uncomfortable Trump looked when that small gathering of folks started peppering him with questions?  Talk about optics!

They did, and Mika asked Michael Steele about it. They did praise Trump for "backing off" insulting Hillary.   Of course now he's badmouthing the pastor all over Twitter and Fox News. 

[NextIteration]

2 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Has Donnie always been this outraged about Trump?

No.  Back when this started, Donnie was bragging about their friendship.  I think he disowned him some time in the late spring.

1 hour ago, Nidratime said:

Did Halperin say the same thing when Hillary was so far ahead and people were bringing up issues with her? Like, none of your questions matter about her because she's ahead in the polls! I doubt he said that.

Of course he didn't, he's a Clinton hater.

[MulletorHater]

1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

They did, and Mika asked Michael Steele about it. They did praise Trump for "backing off" insulting Hillary.   Of course now he's badmouthing the pastor all over Twitter and Fox News. 

Of course, he is!

So, evidently, Mr. Trump's big mouth wrote a check that his ass couldn't cash.  But if Meek-a and Michael Steele want to praise Trump for having enough sense to read the room, then so be it.  

The photo op didn't quite go as Trump expected.  No adoring crowds feeding his narcissism.  It must have been shocking for him not to be given carte blanche to say whatever the hell he wanted without consequence.  Who in the world thought this was a good idea?

I wish they could have also followed up on what is currently going on in Flint.  The mayor of Flint was on the Tom Hartman Show this afternoon and indicated that the tap water is still unsafe to drink and that the governor has yet to be held accountable while throwing some low-level employees under the bus.

[stormy]

Mika's fake embrassment of Trump possibly having a 70 yr old's health issues, such as erectile dysfunction is absurd.

Hell, Bob Dole was a Viagra spokesman some 20 yrs ago.

 W and Jeb owe Hillary an endorsement now.  Trump insulted them and their mother and now even Colin Powell told it like it is with the Cheney's.  Hillary has never blamed W and Colin Powell (although she should, and rightly so), but at the least she should put. the whole thing on Cheney.  He dogged and bullied the CIA, then took the info and used it the way he wanted.

After showing a clip this morning of Ivanka, someone on the panel mumbled, "she's good".

Really?  She's like a Stepford Wife. Her mannerisms and way of speaking about Daddy, are weird.

Edited September 15, 2016 by stormy

[teddysmom]

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After showing a clip this morning of Ivanka, someone on the panel mumbled, "she's good".

My money's on Deutsch, or Halperin. 

[Ohwell]

4 hours ago, Mumbles said:

 I have my issues with Joe, but I have never heard him express racist views.

He might not be racist but he does come across to me as having this snobbish, "know your place" attitude.  He doesn't have to say it but he does look like he believes it. 

[Mumbles]

I heard the "she's good' and I thought it was Barnicle.

I agree that the pearl-clutching about the erectile dysfunction was a bit much.

[teddysmom]

Ivanka's getting the Sarah Palin treatment. 

She's pretty so the men on the panel are blinded to the fact that she is as ill informed and full of shit as her father.

Edited September 15, 2016 by teddysmom

[NewDigs]

Does Mika not watch teevee?

They showed that political ad with David Letterman quizzing the donald about where his clothing lines are made.

Maybe I'm in an area where that ad has heavy rotation but I pretty much have that thing memorized.

Mika saw the ad and couldn't believe it! Loved it! Even said, "Can I see that again?" It's effective but I've been seeing it for ages.

When Joe was a Trump fanboy did he ever renounce what many saw as the Trump camp's race-baiting? I remember the whole, "I've known him for years and he never...".  And I find it difficult to separate Joey from the entire Trump movement.

[Mumbles]

I think I have even seen the Letterman ad while watching this show. 

[madfortv]

So the show this morning visited the comments from Trump's team that Hillary started the birther movement in 2008. Yawn.  Eugene Robinson said maybe someone on her team spent 10 seconds on this. Good for Eugene!  Then an old interview was shown where Hilary was asked about whether she thought President Obama was born in Kenya or a Muslim. She repeatedly said no. REPEATEDLY. CLEARLY. In the end she said one last no but added as far as she knows. Well, you know what they focused on, it was the last comment. I'm happy that I saw the clip because Joe tried to leave the audience with the wrong impression. She was pressed and in the same situation, I could see myself potentially saying the same thing.
 

[oakville]

Friday Recap. Joe is in the undisclosed studio wearing the suit that comes with the studio. Mika has a new turquoise outfit.

Birther Talk is back. Eugene was upset that factcheck.org & politifact reported that the birthertalk started with Hillary's supporters in 2008. Eugene said that Trump spent a lot more time on it in 2012.

[novhappy]

Mika's hoarse, cracking, whiny, sad voice is really annoying me this morning. 

[Kemper]

I watched an interview on CNN this morning between Chris Cuomo and Bernie Sanders.  It was informative, interesting, and an excellent example of how to interview a politician.  They sat in club chairs, face-to-face and carried on an actual dialogue.  THEN.  I tuned in to MJ and watched Meeeka pick up the reins.  Horrible.  She asked a question or two with  her "serious" face on and then all the other chuckleheads around the table and at "remote" locations threw their two cents in.  

Watching this show is kind of like watching a frat party, the morning after.  A bunch of insiders smirking and mugging for camera time, with Meeeka being Queen of the Prom.  I wonder how she tolerates sharing space with Nicole Wallace?  I think Meeka loves being the only woman.  THEN.  We were shown a graphic of Joe, in full frat boy mode, playing a guitar with his "band" or whatever.  Why do I do this to myself?  Why do I get my day started off this way?  I guess it is continually watching for the hopeful train wreck.

[teddysmom]

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Watching this show is kind of like watching a frat party, the morning after.  A bunch of insiders smirking and mugging for camera time, with Meeeka being Queen of the Prom.  I wonder how she tolerates sharing space with Nicole Wallace?  I think Meeka loves being the only woman.  THEN.  We were shown a graphic of Joe, in full frat boy mode, playing a guitar with his "band" or whatever.  Why do I do this to myself?  Why do I get my day started off this way?  I guess it is continually watching for the hopeful train wreck.

I feel ya. I will watch a little of MJ and then I'm like "why are you torturing yourself".

Luckily last night I recorded All In because they were showing speeches at the CHCI and Joy had great guests so I could watch that instead of the Mika & Joe Clown Show. 

[abbyzenn]

Glad to see your comments MadForTV re the video of Clinton talking about Obama birth and religion.  I thought Joe was trying to make her seem iffy on the issue but I didn't see it that way at all and I wondered if I was the only one that saw it like that.  Eugene Robinson as always was a voice of reason.  Joe just cannot bring himself to say one nice thing about Clinton.

Re Joe's comments yesterday about Obama going to the most exclusive prep school in Hawaii.  I think he must have gone on scholarships because certainly his grandparents didn't make that much money.  I've seen the apartment building where they lived with Obama and it isn't anything to write home about viewed from the outside (I've never been in it).  It's a fairly nondescript building that doesn't even have a nice location and no manicured grounds (no grounds at all actually)

I was surprised to come home and turn on the tv this morning -it was on MSNBC right after Morning Joe (which I tape) - anyway, it was Katy Tur and another woman talking about the birther stuff and both made it very clear that it was not HIllary but some of her supporters who brought up the birther issue.

I like Steve Ratner.  He always seems rational in his comments.  Unlike Joe or Mika he discusses the substance of what Trump said/proposed.

[stormy]

Halperin looked like he was having an anxiety attack today waiting for what he predicts will be MR Trump making his mea culpa on the birther issue.

It's a little too late.  Besides how could anyone think his was sincere?  Not doing it under pressure?  And he would never say he was wrong and that it was wrong do it in the first place.  He's going to be president and Halperin be vying to be his press secretary.

[teddysmom]

Is there some way to reach inside the tv and smack that smirk off Halperin's face?

Also where is Howard Fineman?  Does he not do MSNBC shows anymore? 

I can completely understand if he took himself off the MJ call sheet. 

Get up that early and put up with those two knuckleheads?  I'd rather have a colonoscopy. 

[abbyzenn]

Teddysmom - I've recently seen Howard Fineman several times = it must have been on Chris Matthews show because that's the only other political show I watch.

[represent]

7 hours ago, madfortv said:

So the show this morning visited the comments from Trump's team that Hillary started the birther movement in 2008. Yawn.  Eugene Robinson said maybe someone on her team spent 10 seconds on this. Good for Eugene!  Then an old interview was shown where Hilary was asked about whether she thought President Obama was born in Kenya or a Muslim. She repeatedly said no. REPEATEDLY. CLEARLY. In the end she said one last no but added as far as she knows. Well, you know what they focused on, it was the last comment. I'm happy that I saw the clip because Joe tried to leave the audience with the wrong impression. She was pressed and in the same situation, I could see myself potentially saying the same thing.
 

I just commented on this shit in another thread, it's when Joe pulls shit like this and as I have said repeatedly calling the president weak, that's when he comes off as a bigot to me, period. It's when he pulls this shit that I side eye him, and like Trump, he can't help it, it's in there and it continues to come out.  

Nice try Joe, you see your boy coming up and you're trying to make a false equivalency. Actually you're just flat out lying just like your buddy. The kind of lies that completely insult the intelligence of the audience because there's fucking footage that we can see and hear dipshit.  You're acting like his surrogates who would argue that the color blue really isn't blue.

Edited September 16, 2016 by represent

[teddysmom]

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Teddysmom - I've recently seen Howard Fineman several times = it must have been on Chris Matthews show because that's the only other political show I watch.

Thanks. I usually miss Matthews (sometimes on purpose). I won't watch WADR  if Halperin is on and then I get busy and next thing I know it's after 8.

Glad he's still around. 

TBH, Donnie hosted WADR last night with Heileman and he was pretty good. 

[MulletorHater]

1 hour ago, represent said:

I just commented on this shit in another thread, it's when Joe pulls shit like this and as I have said repeatedly calling the president weak, that's when he comes off as a bigot to me, period. It's when he pulls this shit that I side eye him, and like Trump, he can't help it, it's in there and it continues to come out.  

Nice try Joe, you see your boy coming up and you're trying to make a false equivalency. Actually you're just flat out lying just like your buddy. The kind of lies that completely insult the intelligence of the audience because there's fucking footage that we can see and hear dipshit.  You're acting like his surrogates who would argue that the color blue really isn't blue.

That's because for months, Joe and his henchwoman did, in fact, act as surrogates for Trump.  Plus, their intense dislike of Secretary Clinton practically leaped through the TV screen.

[NewDigs]

5 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Is there some way to reach inside the tv and smack that smirk off Halperin's face?

Also where is Howard Fineman?  Does he not do MSNBC shows anymore?

I can completely understand if he took himself off the MJ call sheet. 

Get up that early and put up with those two knuckleheads?  I'd rather have a colonoscopy. 

I saw him moderating something or other on MSNBC yesterday afternoon. 

He interviewed Kurt Eichenwald and missed the perfect opportunity to address press-imtimidation. KE mentioned receiving awful, terrible emails and messages after Newsweek published his Trump piece. Worse than he had ever received.  Imho Fineman should have gone into that issue right then but Instead he threw off a quick non-question. KE did take the opportunity to say it was deplorable.

More attention needs to be brought to this issue and if the press is not going to address it who the hell will?

MJ has become unlistenable. Especially if Joe is there. I've been switching to CNN with more frequency.

[oakville]

On 9/16/2016 at 10:16 AM, abbyzenn said:

Glad to see your comments MadForTV re the video of Clinton talking about Obama birth and religion.  I thought Joe was trying to make her seem iffy on the issue but I didn't see it that way at all and I wondered if I was the only one that saw it like that.  Eugene Robinson as always was a voice of reason.  Joe just cannot bring himself to say one nice thing about Clinton.

Re Joe's comments yesterday about Obama going to the most exclusive prep school in Hawaii.  I think he must have gone on scholarships because certainly his grandparents didn't make that much money.  I've seen the apartment building where they lived with Obama and it isn't anything to write home about viewed from the outside (I've never been in it).  It's a fairly nondescript building that doesn't even have a nice location and no manicured grounds (no grounds at all actually)

I was surprised to come home and turn on the tv this morning -it was on MSNBC right after Morning Joe (which I tape) - anyway, it was Katy Tur and another woman talking about the birther stuff and both made it very clear that it was not HIllary but some of her supporters who brought up the birther issue.

I like Steve Ratner.  He always seems rational in his comments.  Unlike Joe or Mika he discusses the substance of what Trump said/proposed.

I found this on Youtube. Mika & Joe got Heileman's confirmation that Hillary's campaign was involved in starting the birther talk. I suppose the confusion is how close to the Clinton campaign were the people that started the birther talk.

My family doctor's wife worked in Hawaii in the 1960's. He mentioned that Obama's mom was working at a bank there & the President or VP of the bank was able to get Barack an admission to the prep school.

[oakville]

20 hours ago, MulletorHater said:

That's because for months, Joe and his henchwoman did, in fact, act as surrogates for Trump.  Plus, their intense dislike of Secretary Clinton practically leaped through the TV screen.

Agreed. This why I don't take Mika & Joe seriously when they discuss this campaign. Mika gets far too emotional when Republicans come on the set & refuse to endorse Hillary. Joe has burned bridges with Trump by writing the "disqualifying" articles about him& urging Republicans to dump Trump. . The reality is that Mika & Joe have burned bridges to both campaigns by trying to be too friendly with Trump during the primaries. Mika is trying to defend Hillary but its not working. They did the same thing with Chris Christie a few years ago. I remember Mika bragging in 2011 how she was trying to convince Christie to run against Romney. She said she was on the phone with him the evening before he made his announcement. Mika & Joe have to stop having intense personal relationships with the candidates they cover.

I do think the show is a fratboy party trainwreck compared to what it was in 2007-2010. I wonder if it will return to normal after the election.

If Trump wins, Joe will be frantically trying to get back in President Trump's good graces. It will be hilarious to watch that.

[Showwatcher]

Up to recently, Joe AND Mika were slobbering all over Trump. Trump was on the show so much that I thought he was a member of the team. They were both very critical of Hillary.   Now that they realize that Hillary will be our next President, they have changed their tune.  Barnicle definitely tried to trip up Johnson with the way he phrased his question.

For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would listen to Mika on knowing your value. I am sure she is an intelligent and nice woman, but on this show she looks and sounds very immature and over talks people to get attention.  She has no credibility, and it seems like the men on the panel tolerate her so they have a job, but do not respect her.  I think she would be a better fit on The View.  There are so many really smart women that would be fabulous on this show......MSNBC you don't have to look that far!   

[oakville]

5 hours ago, Showwatcher said:

Up to recently, Joe AND Mika were slobbering all over Trump. Trump was on the show so much that I thought he was a member of the team. They were both very critical of Hillary.   Now that they realize that Hillary will be our next President, they have changed their tune.  Barnicle definitely tried to trip up Johnson with the way he phrased his question.

For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would listen to Mika on knowing your value. I am sure she is an intelligent and nice woman, but on this show she looks and sounds very immature and over talks people to get attention.  She has no credibility, and it seems like the men on the panel tolerate her so they have a job, but do not respect her.  I think she would be a better fit on The View.  There are so many really smart women that would be fabulous on this show......MSNBC you don't have to look that far!   

Joe & Mika have lost a lot of credibility during this election. They went overboard for Trump & now, Mika especially has become hysterical anytime someone doesn't endorse Hillary. Mika & Joe personal relationship may have played a role in not being more objective. I can see why Joe would fawn all over Trump during the primaries, but Mika's love of Trump was surprising. Mika probably found it easier to get along with Joe by agreeing with him more. Joe would probably get very cranky with Mika at home if she didn't agree with him.

On Friday's show she was telling Kasie Hunt that Hillary should know her value so she can win the election. She urged Hillary to stop shouting like Trump during her speeches. She said that Hillary was not as big on a stage like Trump. She said Hillary performs better when she is not screaming.

Mika said Trump connected with voters and was always available for interviews. Hillary didn't do as many interviews.

Joe & Chuck had an interesting discussion. Chuck admitted that Trump is gaining ground & based on today's polls could get as many as 266 electoral votes. Chuck said Hillary should learn from Kerry in 2004. It's not enough to be anti-Trump.

Joe said should stop running ads that have Trump making outrageous statements. It is lowering expectations for Trump for the debate.

Joe said if Trump doesn't come across as crazy during the debate , he could win the expectations game.

Kasie Hunt was concerned that millenials are not supporting Hillary with as much enthusiasm. She said that Trump wasn't popular with millenials, but that they may not turn out to vote at all. Kasie forgot to mention that millenials supported Bernie over Hillary during the primaries.

Mika tried to get all the panelists to come and see Joe's band playing at prohibition. None of the panelists seemed eager to see him. One panelist said he would livestream it!.

Edited September 18, 2016 by oakville

[cased]

Here's a new article about Joe.

http://www.gq.com/story/joe-scarborough-has-big-dreams-trump-musical

it's long, and it contains weeks worth of discussion material. What's interesting, is that Joe (and Mika) were interviewed for the article, but parts of it are far from complimentary. I'm guessing, this is not exactly the article that Joe was expecting. 

Edited September 18, 2016 by cased

[NewDigs]

1 hour ago, cased said:

Here's a new article about Joe.

http://www.gq.com/story/joe-scarborough-has-big-dreams-trump-musical

it's long, and it contains weeks worth of discussion material. What's interesting, is that Joe (and Mika) were interviewed for the article, but parts of it are far from complimentary. I'm guessing, this is not exactly the article that Joe was expecting. 

I  took my reply to the Small Talk: Cup o' Joe thread.

Not sure if that's correct but since the article isn't an episode and I didn't see a Media thread...

[oakville]

1 hour ago, NewDigs said:

I  took my reply to the Small Talk: Cup o' Joe thread.

Not sure if that's correct but since the article isn't an episode and I didn't see a Media thread...

This article solves the mystery of the undisclosed studio. It's located in Joe's home in Connecticut. Joe also has access to a PBS studio in Nantucket.

The article also confirms that Mika & Joe are a couple. He won't deny it, so it's true.

I would go to NYC to see Joe's musical.

Joe now makes $8 million per year!. That will buy him a whole wardrobe of fleece, sweaters, & white Stan Smith sneakers. It's still not enough to allow him to buy socks.

It will be interesting to see if Joe mentions the article tomorrow. My suspicion is that he won't because the author makes him look like a delusional buffoon.

[Landsnark]

WOW
Thank you, GQ so so so so much for that.  It's like they read my tweets to MSNBCers asking them please to write a tell all about the show.

[Kemper]

I just posted this in the "Network" forum...but does anyone else think that MSNBC, the network, came off looking really bad in the GQ article?  It would seem that Joe's ego is out-of-control and that the execs cater to him to the exclusion of other shows and on-air personnel.  He truly seems to be in charge of the entire network.  I loved when he bragged that he had something to do with the more right-leaning slant of the network that has happened in the last year or so.  I can honestly say that the article didn't make me despise him more than I do...it just made my jaw drop that any network would put up with the ego and foolishness of an overgrown fratboy and his sidekick sorority queen.  How I hope that after the election, when things settle down, he and most of the panel get their pink slips.  Just like Big Ed(who I love) and the other personnel who have fallen in the wake of Joe's beloved right-leaning programming.  I have switched to CNN This Morning and the CBS Morning Show, but my husband just loves to put on MJ while eating breakfast and then ranting while watching.  Good times, indeed.

[Mumbles]

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I just posted this in the "Network" forum...but does anyone else think that MSNBC, the network, came off looking really bad in the GQ article?  

Yes.  The part that struck me is how his offices are rather sumptuous in comparison to the "real" newsies like Rachel and O'Donnell. They are really indulging him, which we should have known with the self-indulgent B&W photos they use to bump to commercial - what an ego trip. Plus it's ridiculous he's getting $8 million, especially giving his meh ratings. And, if $8 million he should be able to get his ass to work every day instead of from his home or from Nantucket. 

[cased]

1 hour ago, Mumbles said:

Yes.  The part that struck me is how his offices are rather sumptuous in comparison to the "real" newsies like Rachel and O'Donnell. They are really indulging him, which we should have known with the self-indulgent B&W photos they use to bump to commercial - what an ego trip. Plus it's ridiculous he's getting $8 million, especially giving his meh ratings. And, if $8 million he should be able to get his ass to work every day instead of from his home or from Nantucket. 

It is puzzling why Joe seems to have so much power at MSNBC in general, and so many perks, such as the nicer office spaces.

Here is a photo of the mural referred to in the article, where you can also see a little of the nice wood floors:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2016/06/01/morning-joe-office-now-features-a-giant-mural-of-joe-scarborough-and-mika-brzezinski-on-a-beach/

I liked the line in the article where someone described the offices as: "It's like Saddam's Iraq, with all the Joe and Mika iconography"

It is a nice painting, though. I am not surprised they seem to like it so much.

Edited September 19, 2016 by cased

[Padma]

The technique in that mural is fine, but I think it's gross. Is that Mika trailing behind Joe, or is it his a golden retriever lap dog? Not that it doesn't describe their on camera relationship, but the ego of that image of Scarborough so big and tall and robust and leader-ly (one might even say Trumpian) while Mika is far from his equal, more like an afterthought, is just obnoxious. If he ever wants to replace Kim Jung Un, at least he's got the right mural to put in the palace (or subway, for public veneration). That he doesn't have the humility to see how it makes him come across is, of course, no surprise to anyone who watches the show.

I'd read they share the lavish office and dressing room.  You can certainly understand why the "real news" people would resent them from their dingy little cubbyholes upstairs. Not a flattering article at all, but with a ring of truth. I liked it.

Only bad bit of news for Joe--Trump will never, ever let him make "Trump: The Musical" unless he signs over all the money and gives him creative control. Trump even sues people named "Trump" for using "his" name in their business. He loves attention, but he loves the money more. (Trump once told a biographer of "exploiting" him because he used the name on a book jacket. Joe and a musical of Donald? Forgetaboutit.)

Edited September 19, 2016 by Padma

[oakville]

Navy Blue Monday Recap. The happy couple are in matching navy blue sweaters. No mention of GQ. Joe defended Trump saying that Hillary shouldn't have body guards. The rest of the panel pounced on him.

They discussed the bombings in NYC. Halperin said Trump benefits from terror talk.

Next topic was if African Americans would be mobilized by the birther talk. Obama gave a speech & said it would be insulting to his legacy if African Americans didn't come out & support Hillary.

Eddie Glau said that was condesending that Hillary only cares about black voters now after she spent the summer getting Republicans to endorse her. Glau said that won't inspire black voters.

Heileman was very excited about Obama's speech & said that black voters would flock to the polls to defend Obama because birtherism was bad.

Mika wanted Trump to apologize for birtherism. Trump didn't.

[stormy]

It was absolutely surreal to hear Halperin disagree with Joe this morning in regards to Mr Tub of Lard's take their guns away remark.

Guess Joe's back on the crazy train, that is if he ever left.

[novhappy]

Mika's interview with DeBlasio was ridiculous. The man ( of whom I'm generally not a fan) is on to give a news update on the investigation inNY/NJ. And Mika uses her new aggressive, accusing tone to ask Hard Hitting questions that require him to speculate or front run the ongoing investigation. He ends up having to condescendingly explain to her how crime investigation works.  DeBlasio gave interviews everywhere this morning but only on MJ is he attacked like he's covering up the details.  Why even have it in interview format? Just let him talk and ask a few follow ups.  But it was really her tone that was inappropriate.

Still trying to wash off the stink of the "Trump love era" and earn a rep as as tough interviewer. 

[MulletorHater]

On 9/17/2016 at 9:27 PM, oakville said:

Joe & Mika have lost a lot of credibility during this election. They went overboard for Trump & now, Mika especially has become hysterical anytime someone doesn't endorse Hillary. Mika & Joe personal relationship may have played a role in not being more objective. I can see why Joe would fawn all over Trump during the primaries, but Mika's love of Trump was surprising. Mika probably found it easier to get along with Joe by agreeing with him more. Joe would probably get very cranky with Mika at home if she didn't agree with him.

On Friday's show she was telling Kasie Hunt that Hillary should know her value so she can win the election. She urged Hillary to stop shouting like Trump during her speeches. She said that Hillary was not as big on a stage like Trump. She said Hillary performs better when she is not screaming.

 

12 hours ago, Padma said:

Is that Mika trailing behind Joe, or is it his a golden retriever lap dog? Not that it doesn't describe their on camera relationship, but the ego of that image of Scarborough so big and tall and robust and leader-ly (one might even say Trumpian) while Mika is far from his equal, more like an afterthought, is just obnoxious. If he ever wants to replace Kim Jung Un, at least he's got the right mural to put in the palace (or subway, for public veneration). That he doesn't have the humility to see how it makes him come across is, of course, no surprise to anyone who watches the show.

The words "Know your value" should never cross Meek-a's lips.   Not unless it's followed by the words, "Bitch, please."

This woman is so tone deaf to how she actually comes across versus her message that it's astounding.  The image of Joe pointing his finger in her face while berating her opinion is an unforgettable one.  Not to mention, he disrespects her with the regularity of someone putting on underwear everyday.  And, yet, here she is telling Secretary Clinton that she should stop shouting like Drumpf during her speeches.  What's next?  Hillary allowing Drumpf into her space and quietly accepting it because of his physicality?  Or, perhaps she would be more acceptable if she was shown holding her grandbaby?  

Meek-a's willingness to play lapdog to alpha male, Joe, isn't surprising.  It's what she has been doing since the 2012 presidential campaign.  Perhaps she should take a page from the playbooks of Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid.  Two unapologetically strong women, who show their strength and value by their actions instead of some marketing blitz to promote a book that's nothing more than birdcage liner.  Hell, even Nina Turner can give a clinic on how to forcefully and effectively shut down a lying Drump surrogate as she did on Chris Hayes' show Friday night.

[Mumbles]

Mika's personal history of growing up in the literal lap of the Washington national security/defense establishment came through when she had such a bug up her butt about Trump calling Robert Gates a "dope." Of all things to get worked up about. The word choice is juvenile but given the national security blunders of the past 20 years, there are no sacred cows. Nobody deserves a pass because they're a "wise old man" of the DC establishment. 

[abbyzenn]

I didn't watch or tape this morning.  In their discussion re Trump and taking away HC's bodyguards (usually called the Secret Service):  Did anyone mention that Trump's premise is that HC wants to abolish the 2nd amendment and take away all guns?  I had to check this out (not that I'm a 2nd amendment fan) but because I can't imagine her calling for the abolishment of the 2nd amendment and sure enough she hasn't - although she wants gun control and to ban certain kinds of weapons.   Once again trump hedges the truth and he gets a pass from the press.

[car54]

Joe's mural looks a little like Trump's $20,000 portrait his charity bought for him.

[NextIteration]

CNN/Money is reporting that Me-eka and Joe met with tRump in tRump Tower last week.

[Kemper]

I know that Joe earns around $8 million per year..thanks to the GQ article.  I know that much money makes him happy and validates him.  But I have to wonder if he knows/realizes that many many many people are laughing AT him, not with him.  Still, I would be willing to be a bloviating douche if it meant I could get paid that much money for it.  Still think the head honchos at MSNBC/NBC come off looking terrible...worse than Joe.   I still have to wonder what he brings to their table...are the earnings from ad time that good?  Good enough for him to publicly embarrass them with his bragging and perks?  What does he have on them?  I can't think of a single news anchor who could get away with his behavior.  Even Matt Lauer seems like a class act compared to Joe. Wish MSNBC would hire Charlie Rose.  They would get gravitas AND ratings.  Probably. Maybe.  

[Maire]

I came to try and post the article that Nextiteration posted above ^^

What the hell are they doing? It must be the bump in DJT's polling that sent them scurrying to beg forgiveness. I hope he comes back on the show and spills the beans about the greatest love story ever!!!