Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[oakville]

4 hours ago, teddysmom said:

I think they're down to the people who are either fame whores and don't care, have to appear due to contractual obligations,  or have just become numb to Joe's ego and hypocrisy and Mika's vapid stupidity. 

Apparently Joe & Trump kissed and made up?    If the NYT article is so ridiculous, why talk about it for 30 minutes? 

I think Joe is trying to get Trump back on the show. It's been a week since he called in.

I miss the interesting guests. They should also talk about something else other than the election for at least part of the show.

[Ohwell]

26 minutes ago, oakville said:

I miss the interesting guests. They should also talk about something else other than the election for at least part of the show.

Agreed.  Joe & Co. might not be aware but there actually is other news in the U.S. and the rest of the world besides this dreadful election.

[teddysmom]

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Has Joe ever discussed on the show what happened to the intern who was found dead in his office? 

Somebody brought it up years ago in an news article and Joe lost his shit big time.  The article implied that Joe knew more than he was saying, and it's why he left Congress because he didn't want to be investigated, and that he basically paid people off to keep the cause of her death quiet. 

[NewDigs]

27 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Somebody brought it up years ago in an news article and Joe lost his shit big time.  The article implied that Joe knew more than he was saying, and it's why he left Congress because he didn't want to be investigated, and that he basically paid people off to keep the cause of her death quiet. 

But I bet he doesn't mind bringing up Vince Foster.

Really bullshit interview w/ whoever that NYTimes pageant woman is who feels compelled to defend Trump. At least they mentioned being uncomfortable about beauty pageants.

Who's in tomorrow? Omarosa?

[oakville]

36 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Somebody brought it up years ago in an news article and Joe lost his shit big time.  The article implied that Joe knew more than he was saying, and it's why he left Congress because he didn't want to be investigated, and that he basically paid people off to keep the cause of her death quiet. 

Oh my! I could see Joe freaking out if someone brought that issue up. I wonder if her parents asked for further investigation to be done.?

[oakville]

Tuesday recap. Mika & Joe are off, recovering from last night's Cable Hall of Fame. Katty was the host. Katty said Morning Joe changed the nature of cable news. Willie & Cackles The panel was upset that Hillary is relying on Obama's legacy to get her elected. Hillary wants Bill to run the economy when she is President. The panel wants Hillary to have her own opinions. Cackles wants Bill to be Hillary's vp but that is against the Constitution.

Cackles is upset that Hillary demonized Monica Lewinsky.

[Landsnark]

FWIW, I don't think Joe had one tiny thing to do with his intern dying.  There is nothing suspicious about it other than right at that moment there was a lot of nasty sexual and violent things being reported being done by Congresspeople. 

Our satellite doesn't work and so I can't watch, which normally is a cause for celebration, but my sister in law just texted me that it's reported Trump has a lead on Hillary in the national polls.  My SIL is an avid MJ fan, so I was wondering if the show is reporting it, and if so, whose poll?  Is it the Survey Monkey poll?

Edited May 17, 2016 by Landsnark

[33kaitykaity]

Katty Kay basically quoted Andrea Mitchell verbatim in a whine-o-gram about Hillary having to face two opponents and it driving her negatives up and Bernie staying in the race was hurting poor, poor Hillary.  The lamestream media is going to get that talking point in no matter what.  

[teddysmom]

http://gawker.com/remember-when-a-dead-intern-was-found-in-joe-scarboroug-1711985081

 

Here's a link about the whole Intern Story and Marcos Moulitsas being banned from MSNBC for mentioning it in a tweet. He was using this story to compare to Gary Condit being accused of killing Chandra Levy because he was a Dem, but Joe got a pass because he was GOP (his words not mine).  

I think the reason this story still has legs is that the medical examiner who declared Laurie died of a heart condition which caused her to fall and hit her head, lost his license due to falsifying records. 

[NextIteration]

Landsnark, no Morning tRump reported that Hillary's lead in their dumb Survey Monkey poll tightened but not that tRump leads.

Wallace slipped in the lie that Sanders has won 8 of the last 9 primaries as well.  It's hilarious the way the NY and Acela primaries are just ignored in the media and Sanders world.

Edited May 17, 2016 by NextIteration

[ShuFace88]

15 minutes ago, NextIteration said:

Wallace slipped in the lie that Sanders has won 8 of the last 9 primaries as well.  It's hilarious the way the NY and Acela primaries are just ignored in the media and Sanders world.

Tom Brokaw also slipped in the oft repeated lie that Hillary was expecting a "coronation". I have never heard her or anyone on her team talk like that especially after 2008 but it seems to have become conventional wisdom on this show. I grew up watching Brokaw and really trusted and admired him when he was anchoring the news but now he is becoming a hack just like Barnicle. Very disappointing.

So Hillary is in big trouble because Jacob Soboroff talked to 3 truck drivers in Ohio. That is quite the scientific poll. I am so tired of this show's laser focus on "white working class male voters" as if their votes are worth more than everyone else's. Why isn't Jacob talking to preschool teachers in Baltimore or nurses in Atlanta or code writers in Silicon Valley? Because then Joe and Barnicle and Brokaw couldn't bemoan the plight of average working guys just like themselves (snark)!

[suomi]

Crackles said the Clintons should run as Prez/VP and Trump should tap Bernie as his VP.

When Trump revs up with Hillary being Bill's enabler I hope HRC's minions ask Trump if Ivana enabled him during his extramarital affair with Marla. 

[NextIteration]

Pretty dumb to go to a truck stop, since you know, truck drivers don't necessarily live where they drive.

The poor put upon white guys.

[teddysmom]

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Crackles said the Clintons should run as Prez/VP and Trump should tap Bernie as his VP.

Further proof that she has about as much credibility as a political consultant as my Pomeranian. 

[Mumbles]

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It's hilarious the way the NY and Acela primaries are just ignored in the media and Sanders world.

Funny, every time I tuned in the next morning after Sanders' wins, all I heard was whatever nonsense Trump was up to and then a perfunctory "Oh yeah, Sanders won last night too. Now back to Trump....." 

As for the "Acela primaries", why should they get more attention? This is how our electoral process works. The little states get a say too. Else, why not just let New York, California, Florida and Texas pick the presidents for us? I doubt *either* party would want that. The electoral college gets a lot of crap but in a way it prevents the election from just becoming a popularity contest and forces candidates to pay attention to states they may have otherwise ignored.

I guess everyone has their own thing that they're annoyed the media doesn't focus on. For me it's the idea that if you told us this time last year the number of primaries that Sanders has won - and the states he won them in, like Indiana and Missouri - we would all be shaking our heads in disbelief. The Trump stuff really has really taken up all the oxygen. 

[NextIteration]

2 minutes ago, Mumbles said:

Funny, every time I tuned in the next morning after Sanders' wins, all I heard was whatever nonsense Trump was up to and then a perfunctory "Oh yeah, Sanders won last night too. Now back to Trump....." 

As for the "Acela primaries", why should they get more attention? This is how our electoral process works. The little states get a say too. Else, why not just let New York, California, Florida and Texas pick the presidents for us? I doubt *either* party would want that. The electoral college gets a lot of crap but in a way it prevents the election from just becoming a popularity contest and forces candidates to pay attention to states they may have otherwise ignored.

I guess everyone has their own thing that they're annoyed the media doesn't focus on. For me it's the idea that if you told us this time last year the number of primaries that Sanders has won - and the states he won them in, like Indiana and Missouri - we would all be shaking our heads in disbelief. The Trump stuff really has really taken up all the oxygen. 

 

tRump trumps all, he sucks the oxygen out of every single political conversation.

The New York and Acela primaries shouldn't get any more attention than any others, it's just the little fact that they broke up Sanders' momentum and that pundits, especially Republican trying to wreak havoc, keep using the previous reality of Sanders winning 8 of 9 primaries.

Clinton won Missouri.

[Ohwell]

6 minutes ago, Mumbles said:

Funny, every time I tuned in the next morning after Sanders' wins, all I heard was whatever nonsense Trump was up to and then a perfunctory "Oh yeah, Sanders won last night too. Now back to Trump....." 

Or, it's "Sanders won [xxx state] BUT Clinton still leads.   There's always a BUT or HOWEVER every time he wins.

[NextIteration]

5 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

Or, it's "Sanders won [xxx state] BUT Clinton still leads.   There's always a BUT or HOWEVER every time he wins.

That's what happens when you are behind by some 280 pledged delegates and over 2.5m votes.  Sanders has no path, no matter how much he spins things to his supporters.

Edited May 17, 2016 by NextIteration

[33kaitykaity]

2 minutes ago, NextIteration said:

That's what happens when you are behind by some 280 pledged delegates and over 2.5m votes.  Sanders has no path, no matter how much he spins things to his supporters.

Not necessarily.  Sanders does have a path, albeit a narrow one.  HRC is not guaranteed the supers.  They can change their minds at the convention.  If Bernie wins out and tRump starts beating HRC in more swing states, you never know what might happen.  

[Mumbles]

Every once in a blue moon Morning Joe gang - usually Mika - mentions the large crowds that Sanders still gets. A rare acknowledgment that Sanders is still in it.

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Clinton won Missouri

D'oh! I forgot. I just remember it was pretty close.

[MulletorHater]

19 hours ago, oakville said:

I think Joe is trying to get Trump back on the show. It's been a week since he called in.

I miss the interesting guests. They should also talk about something else other than the election for at least part of the show.

Oh, you mean those pesky little things like (a) the ongoing Flint, Michigan water crisis; (b) the ongoing voter suppression attempts in several states that are designed to hurt the Democrats in the general election; (c) the growing scandal in Alabama due to its governor; (d) the Supreme Court punting decision about birth control back to the lower courts; (e) the deliberate crippling of the Supreme Court; (f) the Senate voting on emergency funding to fight the Zika virus; (g) whether or not Rio should postpone the Olympics; (h) the fire in Alberta, Canada; (i) China targeting U.S. tech firms over security; (j) Wall Street being down in early trading; (k) the Russian sports doping scandal; (l) South Korea accusing Nissan of cheating on emissions tests; (m) whether Facebook is saving or ruining journalism; (n) how 5 major corporations came to control all of media (oh, wait!  That means Comcast would be called out, wouldn't it?); (o) New York City's shelter crisis; (p) London's Muslim mayor; (q) President Obama's visit to Hiroshima (a first by any U.S. president); (r) Iraq's political turmoil; (s) interviews with Atlantic City's casino workers who can give the real scoop on the Trump brand; (t) the Opioid epidemic and how it's now seen by lawmakers as a health crisis--instead of a criminal one; (u) the explanation of why an Amtrak train derailed in Philadelphia last year; (v) yet another bombing in a Baghdad marketplace; (w) police in Columbia seizing over 17,500 pounds of cocaine; (x) the cancellation of an English soccer match due to a suspicious object, which turned out to be a training device; (y) the impeachment of Brazil's president; and (z) Venezuela's downward spiral.

Gee--that's 26 topics in ALL that these Trump rump-kissing lemmings could discuss if only they were real journalists!  I can think of any number of people who are actually experts who could have covered any one of the above topics with the gravitas needed.  Instead, we have Joe, Meek-a, Cackles, etc., who interject their own biases and stupidity into every conversation.  I can't begin to describe how much I have detested the media's role in giving that bewigged fool all of the FREE publicity he could possibly want and feeding his narcissism in the process.  I wouldn't be surprised if Joe was trying to get Trump back on the show.  He must be seething that Megyn Kelly has a much-anticipated kiss-and-make-up interview coming with Herr Trump.  It should have been him dammit!

[represent]

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Oh, you mean those pesky little things like (a) the ongoing Flint, Michigan water crisis; (b) the ongoing voter suppression attempts in several states that are designed to hurt the Democrats in the general election; (c) the growing scandal in Alabama due to its governor; (d) the Supreme Court punting decision about birth control back to the lower courts; (e) the deliberate crippling of the Supreme Court; (f) the Senate voting on emergency funding to fight the Zika virus; (g) whether or not Rio should postpone the Olympics; (h) the fire in Alberta, Canada; (i) China targeting U.S. tech firms over security; (j) Wall Street being down in early trading; (k) the Russian sports doping scandal; (l) South Korea accusing Nissan of cheating on emissions tests; (m) whether Facebook is saving or ruining journalism; (n) how 5 major corporations came to control all of media (oh, wait!  That means Comcast would be called out, wouldn't it?); (o) New York City's shelter crisis; (p) London's Muslim mayor; (q) President Obama's visit to Hiroshima (a first by any U.S. president); (r) Iraq's political turmoil; (s) interviews with Atlantic City's casino workers who can give the real scoop on the Trump brand; (t) the Opioid epidemic and how it's now seen by lawmakers as a health crisis--instead of a criminal one; (u) the explanation of why an Amtrak train derailed in Philadelphia last year; (v) yet another bombing in a Baghdad marketplace; (w) police in Columbia seizing over 17,500 pounds of cocaine; (x) the cancellation of an English soccer match due to a suspicious object, which turned out to be a training device; (y) the impeachment of Brazil's president; and (z) Venezuela's downward spiral.

And this my friends is why I don't watch this show and just occasionally come to this thread for a recap. Look at this fucking list, LOL.  

I can't stop laughing; this list is the most informative thing on this thread and it didn't even come from the "credible journalist" that run this show. 

 

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Clinton won Missouri.

I also believe she won Nebraska I believe on the same night that Sanders won WV, but I guess there were no delegates, so they didn't bother to report it.  

[33kaitykaity]

3 minutes ago, represent said:

I also believe she won Nebraska I believe on the same night that Sanders won WV, but I guess there were no delegates, so they didn't bother to report it.  

The primary was non-binding.  The caucus on March 5 won by Bernie was binding.  (I have no idea why they feel the need to do both.)  

[Landsnark]

You nailed it, MulletorHater.  The simple answer is that if MSNBC or any network-sized news outlet were to cover those topics, then their ratings would drop.  Today's audience wants to be angered by Trump or Hillary.  They need topics simple and gossip-based.  To wildly oversimplify... the sudden evaporation of television journalism is the result of ubiquitous reality-shows, immediate gratification, a proudly stupid and divided populace, and Fox News.  It's audience-driven, not topic-driven, and is overseen by the business side of the company, not the news side.  These factors have shaped the journalism industry, on cable television and the internet, anyway.
Imagine for a moment if Donald Trump was not asked about racism or McCain's patriotism or genitals or menstruation or how great he is... but about any of the topics above daily and was hammered about his inconsistencies and lack of familiarity with any of the topics?  Immediately - IMMEDIATELY - he'd appear unPresidential and a joke.  His campaign would have folded last autumn.  But that doesn't make good TV.  This isn't about who is a capable Presidential candidate, this is about ratings and selling advertising. 
Hillary can speak expertly on all those topics.  She's Presidential.  She's not an ideologue or an insane celebrity whore.  She's a professional politician.  This is how two wildly un-serious candidates are still in the running and have huge #s of support.  News-byte ideology where immediate emotion is far more important than boring seriousness. "Banks are bad!"  "I'm mad!"  Those childish emotions shouldn't be pointed to by people like Joe Scarborough as legitimate election triggers.  His job should be to inform, not inflame.
Morning Joe and its producers have a lot to answer for.  They give horse shit politics credence without examination because it sells.  This is corporate news journalism as profit center playing out before our eyes.

Edited May 17, 2016 by Landsnark

[NextIteration]

2 hours ago, Mumbles said:

D'oh! I forgot. I just remember it was pretty close.

Nah, don't harsh on yourself.  It was razor thin and actually decided just recently. :)

[Ohwell]

I definitely agree that Morning Joe should cover more topics.  I am mad and truly disgusted about the way they've covered this campaign. *coughTRUMPcough*

However, I AM truly mad and disgusted about this is winding up with two candidates I can't stand.  One is certifiably insane and should be nowhere near the White House ever again, and the other is a career politician who generates about as much enthusiasm for me as Joe Scarborough eating oatmeal.

[33kaitykaity]

44 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

I definitely agree that Morning Joe should cover more topics.  I am mad and truly disgusted about the way they've covered this campaign. *coughTRUMPcough*

However, I AM truly mad and disgusted about this is winding up with two candidates I can't stand.  One is certifiably insane and should be nowhere near the White House ever again, and the other is a career politician who generates about as much enthusiasm for me as Joe Scarborough eating oatmeal.

On the Democratic side you might be right about the level of enthusiasm.  On the ReThug side, though, HRC generates active dislike up to psychopathology and worse.  The vast right-wing conspiracy is a real thing.  They will come out against her in droves.  

[ruby24]

4 hours ago, 33kaitykaity said:

Not necessarily.  Sanders does have a path, albeit a narrow one.  HRC is not guaranteed the supers.  They can change their minds at the convention.  If Bernie wins out and tRump starts beating HRC in more swing states, you never know what might happen.  

I'm sorry, but why would the superdelegates go with the candidate who lost both in pledged delegates and the popular vote? That makes no sense to me.

Also, I thought the Sanders camp was against superdelegates on principle because they're undemocratic. But not if they can help them win by overturning what the voters chose? Isn't that the undemocratic thing?

Edited May 17, 2016 by ruby24

[33kaitykaity]

12 minutes ago, ruby24 said:

I'm sorry, but why would the superdelegates go with the candidate who lost both in pledged delegates and the popular vote? That makes no sense to me.

1.  Trump vs. Sanders -- 39-52.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Trump vs. Clinton -- 42-47 and sinking

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

2.  Bernie (possibly) wins out the last 12 contests.

3.  "Dead heat: Trump, Clinton tied in 3 swing-state polls."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994#ixzz48wb3yZwV

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Also, I thought the Sanders camp was against superdelegates on principle because they're undemocratic. But not if they can help them win?

You can be against crooked rules, but you still have to play within those rules if you want to have any prayer of winning the game.

Edited May 17, 2016 by 33kaitykaity

[ruby24]

2 minutes ago, 33kaitykaity said:

1.  Trump vs. Sanders -- 39-52.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Trump vs. Clinton -- 42-47 and sinking

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

2.  Bernie wins the last 12 primary contests going away.  

3.  Dead heat: Trump, Clinton tied in 3 swing-state polls

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994#ixzz48wb3yZwV

 

You can be against crooked rules, but you still have to play within those rules if you want to have any prayer of winning. 

Like taking corporate money then?

So this is all based on polls in which Bernie Sanders has never been attacked by the GOP. Okay.

[33kaitykaity]

5 minutes ago, ruby24 said:

Like taking corporate money then?

So this is all based on polls in which Bernie Sanders has never been attacked by the GOP. Okay.

When has Bernie taken corporate money?  I'm sorry, I don't follow.

Bernie being attacked by the ReThugs would be a bad thing if Bernie had the same megatonnes of baggage as HRC does.  He just doesn't.

Edited May 17, 2016 by 33kaitykaity

[Ohwell]

See, I think Bernie was smart to wait for Hillary.  

[MyAimIsTrue]

Guys, back to show talk.  Yes, I know political discussions are inevitable but this is veering way off course and can only lead to trouble.

[oakville]

Wednesday Recap. The word of the day to Joe is Rigged. Joe went on a rant against the Democratic Party for rigging the debates, Iowa & the Super Delegate process. Joe said Bernie should run as an independent in November. Barnicle was upset with DWS for not paying attention to Bernie's demands. Mika said Bernie doesn't have to listen to Hillary's people. Joe mocked Harry Reid for hiding in the Senate & condemning the violence at the Nevada caucus. Joe said Bernie is starting a revolution.  Mika mocked the pundits who support Hillary & want Bernie to withdraw from the race.

Halperin said there could be a revolution in Philadelphia this summer at the convention.

Joe downplayed Trump's interview with Megyn Kelly. He browbeated anyone on the panel who said they watched the interview.

[shok]

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Barnicle was upset with DWS for not paying attention to Bernie's demands.

Why should DWS pay attention to Bernie's demands? He's not even a Democrat and he's got a lot of balls demanding the Democratic Party should kowtow to him, especially when he's losing and has no hope of winning the nomination. He knew what the rules were when he signed on to campaign as a Democrat instead of Independent and he's even admitted he only did so only in order to get media and money. Hillary and DWS have been more than accommodating to him as it is because they want to keep the Party united in spite of his antics and tantrums. What a nasty piece of work he's turned out to be. No wonder so few superdelegates, who have known and worked with him for 25 years, have thrown their support to him.

[wknt3]

18 minutes ago, shok said:

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Barnicle was upset with DWS for not paying attention to Bernie's demands.

Why should DWS pay attention to Bernie's demands? He's not even a Democrat and he's got a lot of balls demanding the Democratic Party should kowtow to him, especially when he's losing and has no hope of winning the nomination. He knew what the rules were when he signed on to campaign as a Democrat instead of Independent and he's even admitted he only did so only in order to get media and money. Hillary and DWS have been more than accommodating to him as it is because they want to keep the Party united in spite of his antics and tantrums. What a nasty piece of work he's turned out to be. No wonder so few superdelegates, who have known and worked with him for 25 years, have thrown their support to him.

The perils of browsing before coffee kicks in - I was reading this and all I could think was "how the heck did Bernie Sanders get involved with Dancing With The Stars??? How is this not all over the internet?"...

[NextIteration]

Does Scarborough even realize how transparent he is with his shenanigans?  All in a day for him I guess on Morning tRump.

[Landsnark]

Looks like I'm glad I missed today's show!  Sheesh.

Ok, so I need to ask... moderator, give me some wiggle room here... are there any networks or panel shows or news magazine hours as in the tank for Hillary as MSNBC is for Trump/Sanders and Fox is for Trump? (Shows that aren't late night or overnight.)   I'd like to bask in some of that yummy liberal bias I've been hearing about in order to be reassured that adults are indeed driving this paneled station wagon. 

[33kaitykaity]

2 hours ago, Landsnark said:

Looks like I'm glad I missed today's show!  Sheesh.

Ok, so I need to ask... moderator, give me some wiggle room here... are there any networks or panel shows or news magazine hours as in the tank for Hillary as MSNBC is for Trump/Sanders and Fox is for Trump? (Shows that aren't late night or overnight.)   I'd like to bask in some of that yummy liberal bias I've been hearing about in order to be reassured that adults are indeed driving this paneled station wagon. 

Here's a couple that I like.  They're streaming, not on the box, though.  

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBigPictureRT, Thom Hartmann.  

[Eliot]

I thought Hartmann was in the tank for Bernie.

Joe said Bernie should run as an independent in November.

Of course he said that. Gee, I wonder why.

[ktwo]

1 minute ago, Eliot said:

I thought Hartmann was in the tank for Bernie.

Hartmann is indeed in the tank for Bernie, as is most everyone on SiriusXM's Progress channel. However, Hartmann does not approve at all of the Bernie or Bust nonsense.

[Mumbles]

28 minutes ago, Eliot said:

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Joe said Bernie should run as an independent in November.

 

Of course he said that. Gee, I wonder why.

Well to be fair, someone (and it may have been Joe, I forget) also pointed out that if someone like Ben Sasse ran as an indie on the conservative side, than any of the four could be president.  Which is pretty wild, and will never happen.

[NextIteration]

3 hours ago, Mumbles said:

Well to be fair, someone (and it may have been Joe, I forget) also pointed out that if someone like Ben Sasse ran as an indie on the conservative side, than any of the four could be president.  Which is pretty wild, and will never happen.

Which would be because the decision would conveniently be thrown to the GOP controlled house, which he failed to mention.  Shenanigans.

[Mumbles]

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Which would be because the decision would conveniently be thrown to the GOP controlled house, which he failed to mention.  Shenanigans.

Possibly, but not necessarily. There are combinations of states and election turnouts by which one of the four could get to 270 electoral votes. The two conservatives evenly split the GOP vote of a state, while one of the Dems overwhelmingly gets the Dem vote, or vice versa. 

But bottom line is, as much as the politics junkies would foam at the mouth at such a prospect, it is unlikely to occur.

[slensam]

Politics junkies; it's all a game to them. They won't be affected by this stuff. Big exciting reality show.

[Mumbles]

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Politics junkies; it's all a game to them. They won't be affected by this stuff. Big exciting reality show.

I think that every time I see Nicolle cackling, Halperin smirking, Barnicle bloviating....all these people get to spend the next four years with their cushy no-heavy-lifting jobs and nice homes or apartments and bank accounts with nary a worry. And maybe that's why we get the facile, giggly commentary and analysis from them....it just doesn't matter to them. Tee he hee.

[Padma]

I got so upset the last time I watched this show that I haven't watched for at least two weeks. (And Joe wasn't even there that day! But Mika was maddening on the subject of ... well, you know.)

Anyway, I do enjoy reading here when I can. But I'm confused. Who is Joe for now? He's had two programs where he's said he didn't...couldn't... wouldn't... vote for Trump. So what's his deal? From here it sounds like he's still anti-Hillary and still stirring up trouble for Dems re: Bernie.

Is he back on the Trump train after all?

[NextIteration]

I think that Joe was angling for a position in the tRump administration and might have been told that was never gonna happen - so he was miffed for a few days and barfed out some angry tweets and opinion pieces.  Or maybe it was the public way Morning tRump was highlighted and publicly shamed at the nerd prom, and then he remembered that he was on a mission to prove to America that he was right from the minute tRump came down off the escalator 11 months ago.

Funny thing has happened since Monday though, there has been big blow back against the Sanders campaign all over the place about the shenanigans that went down in Vegas.  Joe is nowhere to be found.  Of course today?  Meeka is doing what she does best, covering breaking news about the Egyptian plane disaster.

[teddysmom]

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 Meeka is doing what she does best, covering breaking news about the Egyptian plane disaster.

My FB feed has a story saying Mika is calling for DWS to step down because she's mean to Bernie.

Mika the entire country has been calling for you to step down since 2007. You seriously think DWS or anyone else gives a rat's ass what you think?  You're nothing but a two bit news reader who got the gig of a life time by kissing the ass (and God knows what else) of an egomaniac.

Edited May 19, 2016 by teddysmom

[Mumbles]

Mika has her issues. The Vanity Fair photo shoot with her sticking her leg in the air was appalling. I think her "Know Your Worth" thing caters to upper/upper-middle class, mostly white women who buy into the fake feminism that Ariana Huffington and Sheryl Sandberg peddle around. I think her dismissal of certain guests - the Russell Brand incident comes to mind - is not professional.

That said, she does seem to take most news seriously. Of the gaggle of buffoons that usually congregate on this show, including her co-host, she is the least likely to join in on "the fun."

And I think the characterization of "Mika is calling for DWS to step down because she's mean to Bernie" is unfair both to Mika and the story she was reporting. I saw this on the show. Mika reported that there are people within the DNC itself who disapprove of how Wasserman-Shultz has treated the Sanders campaign, and that many inside the DNC strongly disagreed with her decision to cut the campaign off from the voting data back in the last fall. This isn't just Mika feeling bad for Bernie. This is a real issue within the DNC and Mika was opining at the end.