Serena May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 He's not done. He seems extra sassy tonight. In his recap of the episode, he seems really skeptical of the 'Regina being screwed over the most' claim. 1 Link to comment
Mari May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 What's truly frightening us how many people are messaging back that she is. How deluded do you have to be to think she's gotten the rawest deal? 3 Link to comment
Souris May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 What's truly frightening us how many people are messaging back that she is. How deluded do you have to be to think she's gotten the rawest deal? You mean on a scale from "rational" all the way to "A&E logic"? 1 Link to comment
Shanna Marie May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I should probably stay off Twitter for a while or soon I'll be proposing marriage to Matt M., and that would just get embarrassing. 1 Link to comment
Zuleikha May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 How deluded do you have to be to think she's gotten the rawest deal? I don't appreciate being called deluded simply because I see Regina's story the same way as the people who are actually writing it see it. Link to comment
Curio May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) Isaac loves Regina. @LanaParrilla #OUAT #OnceUponATime @PFischler He's a writer. Writers love characters like Regina. I know we all do! Oh, trust us Jane. We know. Edited May 4, 2015 by Curio 6 Link to comment
stealinghome May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I think Jane Espenson and I have very different definitions of "all." 5 Link to comment
LizaD May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 Well let's be fair, I think all writers love the character they center their fan fiction on no? Or else they wouldn't write a fanfiction about them in the first place. "Characters like Woegina" simply means the centerpiece of my fanfiction. 4 Link to comment
Mari May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) I don't appreciate being called deluded simply because I see Regina's story the same way as the people who are actually writing it see it. I didn't call you in particular deluded. In fact, I didn't even know you felt that way; enjoying Regina's character and story isn't the same thing. If you see Regina as the person on the show with the unfairest life, that's your choice. But, considering her competition includes characters like that poor guy at the start of the episode didn't even get to go on his honeymoon--and he had about 3 lines? I think you're wrong. Edited May 4, 2015 by Mari 6 Link to comment
Serena May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 We don't even have to go to random guest stars for that. How about Graham? Spends 30+ as a sex slave, gets murdered as soon as he's free. What about Emma? Sure, Regina had a crappy mother and a man she loved died. TWO men Emma loved died, and she had no mother. Hook's lover died too, as well as his brother, and he got mutilated. I can go on. What happened to Daniel was sad, but basically every other character on the show had a comparable tragedy happening to them. Regina's problem were her psycho reactions to her problems (like she basically admitted this episode), not how "unfair" her life was. She had so many possibilities to change her life for the better, and she refused all of them until this latest episode. 6 Link to comment
Rumsy4 May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 It's not just the unfairness of Graham's life that gets me--but his death as well. He basically got into the situation because he showed mercy to Snow and refused to kill her, and later helped Charming escape even though he could not himself leave. And no one but Emma has even acknowledged him after he died. I think I would have felt better about his death if Snow and/or Emma had called Regina out for what she did to him, and if Snow had named Baby Do Over after Graham. 4 Link to comment
sharky May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I should probably stay off Twitter for a while or soon I'll be proposing marriage to Matt M., and that would just get embarrassing. I think we can use this to create a new scale perhaps for how good or bad an article is. So from now on, if it's a good article written by a competent journalist, it gets a Matt. If it's a bad article clearly written by someone with an agenda who isn't looking at anything logically, it's a Natalie. Then you drop everything else in between those two. 1 Link to comment
FurryFury May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 It's funny how different TV fandoms all unite in their hatred of Natalie Abrams. 2 Link to comment
Serena May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 LOL, I still remember when she talked about August's return and was all like "sorry Captain Swan fans, August is coming back!" A+ instincs on that, Natalie. Link to comment
Zuleikha May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I didn't call you in particular deluded. In fact, I didn't even know you felt that way; enjoying Regina's character and story isn't the same thing. Yes, I get that you weren't intending to personally call me out. But I do think Regina is the most screwed over character, so I am included in the rude, blanket statement you made while you imagined that you were only insulting people who would never see your words. Ordinarily I would be happy to discuss why I think Regina's the most screwed over character because there's not much more I love to do than write about Regina, but there's no point in entering a conversation that starts with an insult. Link to comment
sharky May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 It's funny how different TV fandoms all unite in their hatred of Natalie Abrams. It was a choice between Natalie or Wanda/Kristen but Natalie seems to unfortunately be more involved with our show so.... Plus, those E! Online polls have scarred me mentally. Link to comment
Mathius May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 But I do think Regina is the most screwed over character I would really like to hear your thoughts on why, if you could bring it to the Regina thread. Link to comment
KingOfHearts May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 (edited) @PFischler He's a writer. Writers love characters like Regina. I know we all do!Pretty much confirms it wasn't just the Author sucking up. I don't see how writers, besides the ones who created the character, would love a Mary Sue. Some of the professional writers on this forum could probably back me up on this.I like Regina, but I don't agree that she's well-written character or perfect to write about. Edited May 4, 2015 by KingOfHearts Link to comment
Serena May 4, 2015 Share May 4, 2015 I wouldn't think to look to MTV for great journalism, but this article is really kinda good, and who can argue with point #1? 4 Link to comment
Souris May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 JMo tweeted that she will be on GMA and Kelly & Michael this week. I hope Kelly asks her again when the heck Hook & Emma are gonna get busy. 2 Link to comment
Writing Wrongs May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 I was checking the schedules and I don't see her listed for either show. I'm confused. Link to comment
Souris May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 It's possible she's filming them this week but they won't air her segments until later. That's happened before. Though you'd think they'd want to air her interview BEFORE the finale. Link to comment
YaddaYadda May 8, 2015 Share May 8, 2015 (edited) Adam confirms the show has been picked up ETA - TVLine article (sort of article) And Shonda has another show in the works. Really they should just rename ABC as the Shonda network. Edited May 8, 2015 by YaddaYadda 4 Link to comment
Serena May 8, 2015 Share May 8, 2015 Jennifer on GMA. I don't get it about Comic Con... they filmed a sneak peek for it? Link to comment
retrograde May 9, 2015 Share May 9, 2015 (edited) Jennifer on GMA. I was very distracted by how uncomfortable she appeared to be (barely) sitting on that chair. I would say either part of what they filmed when doing the finale is intended to be used at the beginning of 5A, or they are start filming before SDCC and will have time to throw a preview together. SDCC is July 9-12, so I guess if they start filming at the very beginning of July they might be able to get something ready in time? They did last year, but last year they began filming July 9 and Comic Con wasn't until July 26. Edited May 9, 2015 by retrograde 1 Link to comment
YaddaYadda May 9, 2015 Share May 9, 2015 You know how some of the cast finished filming on the Wednesday after Easter instead of finishing right before? Maybe that's the thing they did for ComiCon. 2 Link to comment
Souris May 9, 2015 Share May 9, 2015 (edited) Barely spoilery (like, if you squint) Us Weekly interview with Colin. Some really exceptional CaptainSwan cosplay at RegalCon today. Edited May 9, 2015 by Souris Link to comment
Writing Wrongs May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 (edited) Amazon Canada is listing OUAT Season 4 as coming out August 18: http://www.amazon.ca/Once-Upon-Time-Comp-Blu-ray/dp/B00X797NLK/ref=sr_1_8?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1431269273&sr=1-8&keywords=once+upon+a+time I really hope that's not the cover they use, because it only fits half the season. Of course, the Regina cover for Season 3 didn't really fit either. Edited May 10, 2015 by Writing Wrongs Link to comment
YaddaYadda May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Amazon Canada is listing OUAT Season 4 ads coming out August 18: http://www.amazon.ca/Once-Upon-Time-Comp-Blu-ray/dp/B00X797NLK/ref=sr_1_8?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1431269273&sr=1-8&keywords=once+upon+a+time I really hope that's not the cover they use, because it only fits half the season. It's not like 4B is all that memorable, you know. I wish I can bleach my brain and forget all about 4B. Maybe I'm asleep and having a nightmare. Link to comment
Serena May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure that'll be the cover. It's... better than season 3? Link to comment
Camera One May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 (edited) I'm surprised they don't have an animated broom and the Author wearing the pointy hat dancing on the frozen apple. Edited May 10, 2015 by Camera One 1 Link to comment
KingOfHearts May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 A moldy blue apple. How appealing to potential buyers. You can totally tell that's Elsa by first impression. Link to comment
HoodlumSheep May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 I was hoping the cover would be of the other poster for Frozen. The one with Elsa's silhouette. Link to comment
RadioGirl27 May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 It could be worse, it could have been Regina. 1 Link to comment
Camera One May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 (edited) How about Young Emma & Young Lily, and Emma and Regina, with "All I want is to be your friend" in the center. Then in one corner, there's the Snow Queen, another corner with the Queens of Darkness, one corner with Elsa, Anna and Kristoff, and the final corner with Belle and Rumple dressed as the Beast with Hook looking on. Throw in a dragon with the flames roasting Snow and Charming. That would be a hot mess, just like the season. For fans of "Person of Interest", most of the characters would have a label "Irrelevant". Edited May 10, 2015 by Camera One Link to comment
HoodlumSheep May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Or what about the 4a QoD pic? Or would that be considered false advertising, seeing how they did nothing all season long? As long as it's not the regina/apple cover again. You'd think they'd stop using it seeing how she's supposed to be redeemed now and that part of her story is essentially over with (if we ignore all the useless EQ flashbacks they still try to cram in). Link to comment
MaiLuna May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 There are a lot of new stills and BTS pictures of the finale up now. 1 Link to comment
Writing Wrongs May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 I guess that is the cover for the blu after all. http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Time-Season-4/21086 Link to comment
HoodlumSheep May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 :( where can I volunteer to make their dvd covers for them? Granted my cover would include a bunch of stick figures, but it'd still somehow manage to look better than that 1 Link to comment
Mathius May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 Actually, this makes sense. S1 and S2 had mirroring covers, so S3 and S4 having mirroring covers seems fitting. Link to comment
HoodlumSheep May 11, 2015 Share May 11, 2015 Personally I liked season 1 and 2's style better. The one thing that bugged me for season 3 was that it was an Evil Queen cover which I think would have fit season's 1 and 2 better (story wise). Link to comment
retrograde May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 The AV Club, which still occasionally reviews big episodes of this show, gave the finale an A- and the reviewer argues what many here have, that it the concept could have run waaaaay longer. Link to comment
Serena May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 I haven't been following "professional" reviews of the show, has the finale been well received? I saw TVLine ran a poll and readers gave a similar grade. Link to comment
Writing Wrongs May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 IGN gave it a 9.2 rating: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/11/once-upon-a-time-operation-mongoose-review Link to comment
HoodlumSheep May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Sorry IGN, I do not agree with that rating at all. That finale should have been in the 8's. The pacing was horrendous. The fast pacing worked well in the first half, but the back half suffered tremendously. Scenes weren't given time to breathe or have as much emotional resonance as they should. Plus the wack a doodle way they decided to fix things (Regina's a saviour! Her blood will work!) was the usual cop out (but maybe IGN doesn't count that against them?). I'm surprised it scored higher than the 3b finale (which got an 8.9). And no this is not coming from any shipper bias. Link to comment
icewolf May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 (edited) S4 Bluray/DVD cover? It is pretty obvious they are going hard for that Frozen audience. Is that Elsa or Ingrid? At least it isn't just Regina on the cover again! I also preferred the S1 and S2 style cover because it empathized the large cast instead of just one character. If you looked at S3's cover you would have mistaken believed it was the Regina show. Edited May 13, 2015 by icewolf Link to comment
Souris May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 If you looked at S3's cover you would have mistaken believed it was the Regina show. Where's the mistake? ;) 5 Link to comment
MadyGirl1987 May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 Too cute! You can tell they have a lot of fun together on set... http://www.buzzfeed.com/keelyflaherty/times-the-once-upon-a-time-cast-redefined-squad-goals#.oenr835rE 5 Link to comment
Writing Wrongs May 17, 2015 Share May 17, 2015 I can't remember if it was mentioned yet, but they are coming out with Once Pop Vinyls: http://vinylmationworld.com/VMworldmob/wordpress/concept-artwork-upcoming-upon-time-pop-vinyls Apparently there was supposed to be a Henry one, but he got swapped out with a Hook one. I find that funny. I don't understand why there isn't more Once official merchandise. It seems like the kind of show that would be perfect for it. 1 Link to comment
OnceUponAJen May 17, 2015 Share May 17, 2015 (edited) I can't remember if it was mentioned yet, but they are coming out with Once Pop Vinyls: http://vinylmationworld.com/VMworldmob/wordpress/concept-artwork-upcoming-upon-time-pop-vinyls Apparently there was supposed to be a Henry one, but he got swapped out with a Hook one. I find that funny. I don't understand why there isn't more Once official merchandise. It seems like the kind of show that would be perfect for it. There are many things Once-related for sale on Etsy. I've wondered why they've sort of let that go, but it is nice to see what people are creating! Edited May 17, 2015 by OnceUponAJen 1 Link to comment
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