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  1. Quantico gets enough lift on C3/C7 that it ends up beating Once. It's also cheaper than an oldie like Once. All the Shonda shows, except the newest one, get significant C3/C7 increases. When all is said and done, Once ends up losing ground relative to the other shows and is near the bottom of the heap of the shows left. When Once goes fractional next season, I don't know if the math is going to work out for them. This development season was Lee's so Dungey is going to get a pass if most of them bombs. She can clear the deck somewhat for her development season. But there is A LOT of excitement and betting on Kiefer's show. Kerry and Viola also got development deals with ABC so it'll be interesting to see if they produce anything for 17-18 and where it'll go.
  2. That's looking at rounded numbers. The drop is negligible. The actual numbers are 1.158 for last week and 1.146 for this week. I haven't seen the show nor kept up with it since last year so I have no opinion on on-screen material based stuff. Source to Spotted Ratings for you guys to go look at. Here's an interesting article that gives you VOD rankings since I've seen some overly optimistic claims that Once gets a huge boost taken into account other viewing methods. Once is not in the top 20 but look at the boost #20 gets. I've been saying forever that with Once, what you see is what you get, but I can't source that to any available public info. This is about the only article I can source for you guys. http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/ratings-fox-fx-programs-dominate-vod-rankings-1201767410/
  3. Yeah they bought a script but I still have my doubts to whether it actually gets made. An all or majority Asian cast in a big production Hollywood movie is unheard of. They'd have to "whitewash" the story and characters to a degree and I don't know how feasible that is with Mulan. It's not exactly like say the controversy over the upcoming Ghost in the Shell. Considering Disney has just about all their animated catalogue in the development pipeline, we'll see.
  4. I can't imagine Disney ever touching a live action Mulan. If you don't mind subtitles and bad subtitles at that, there's a China released film. I think it was called Hua Mulan and you can find it on youtube. Jackie Chan's kid is in it which is how I found it, looking for Jackie Chan movies. It's done in the style of period epic war movies so yeah no Mushu. But I did like Mushu. The "dishonor on your cow" line cracks me up everytime and I don't even know why except that I'm easily entertained. ETA: Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTAETFTIo_I
  5. In this case it was ABC studios, that did what looks like a wholesale submission for everything directly under their banner. It was probably some kind of publicity release by ABC, this according to Gold Derby. That kind of thoughtless mass submissions for sure went by credits. Only the ones with a real shot, do the studio bother to work with actor, PR rep, agents etc. to strategize and campaign for an actual nomination. And since everyone on Once has zero chance of getting a nomination, it's silly to get in a tizzy over it. Seriously the amount of submissions in each category is staggering. I think there were like 500 "submissions" in each of the big acting categories. 99% of voters will never even see 99% of the submissions. It's straight to the big names.
  6. DVR numbers in terms of L+3/L+7 are completely irrelevant. They're only published for the networks' PR sakes. C3 ratings for Once pretty much look like live ratings. No one in advertising give 2 craps about L+3/L+7 and in fact don't even see them. Streaming/Online/VOD revenue a drop in the bucket right now. At the upfronts last year, the big push was for an "across all platforms" package with traditional tv and the other is pushing for hard core data driven-programmatic advertising. The latter hasn't happened yet because it's new frontier. I have no info on international stuff, so here's a recent article. But I'm guessing no network has ever relied on international sales to keep a show going. Look at Body of Proof. It's been cancelled but it's still more popular than Once in the only place Once pops up, in Russia. http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/most-popular-us-tv-shows-around-the-world.html The biggest pro to Netflix and their ilk is to drive new and/or lapsed viewers to watch the show live. That's network convention. Key here is still LIVE viewers as the end goal. It's usually credited with year to year growth like seen with Breaking Bad or any number of procedurals on CBS or with Greys/Scandal. That has never happened for Once, aside from the Frozen anomaly. Licensing deals are a separate issue. As for if S6 will be their last or not? I'm going to put my money on it. There is not another Hail Mary left for them ala Frozen. This show is not cheap to produce. I believe Robert said at some interview that it costs some $5 million per episode. It was the interviews duing Barney/Ediburgh Film Festival press stuff. Anybody think they sold $5 million bucks worth of Funko dolls?
  7. Yes. ABC Sunday shows are strictly set by the bookends of Oscars and Billboard Music Awards. Count the weeks. That's the only determining factor.
  8. I know the 5 years number has been thrown around forever in regards to Robert's contract but Danny Boyle said they have to film in May-June because of RC and Jonny Lee Miller's commitment to their tv shows. He specifically pointed those 2 out and added something like if it didn't happen in May-June it wasn't going to happen for a couple of years. That tells me RC has a longer contract. That said I'm sure if he really wanted out, they would let him go.
  9. Quantico gets a bigger boost in C3 than Once which is nearly negligible. When all is said and done, Quantico averaged out to be higher than Once, at least it was for the first couple of months. And yes I know that comes with the "Quantico is a freshman show" vs a vet show note.
  10. It's a year-to-year comparison. Fall last year was Frozen so yes the y-t-y decline compared to Frozen is probably the steepest it's been considering what Frozen did for the show. The editorial writers aren't necessarily viewers of the show. You get hard numbers to write up a short article and your job is done. They're not looking for anomalies or in-show reasonings or explanations.
  11. Her stylist is Ilaria Urbinati, one of the top stylists in the industry. I'm glad Ginny got to do a pretty big project outside of Once since she's basically wasted on this show.
  12. The agency more or less chooses. Not everyone can afford or want to pay for a Scandal spot. There's also been a push for more targeted advertising recently and believe it or not Scandal viewers might not best fit some targeted demos they're looking for and other spots would be better. Also remember that there are other major networks and other time spots to work with in any number of combinations. Most ad campaigns don't just run on Thursdays at 9pm on ABC as an example. On the network side it makes sense for them, because if there's competition for that spot, it drives up the rates. That's why all the hype is geared towards presenting the shows specifically and individually at upfront. Well besides Shonda's Thursday. Could you be thinking of local ads? I don't know a lot about that side but I think those are sold through the local affiliates and the local affiliates determine the schedule. My money is on those times, like Saturday, getting more local spots than what you would see for Scandal prime time.
  13. Actually ad buyers can and do pick what "show" they want to buy a 30 second spot for, for their clients needs. It's not quite as simple as "I want a 30 second spot at 9:45 during Scandal on 2/18 and only this spot" but they are buying airtime during certain show's airings. It's complicated and far too involved to really get into. Basics are for what I think this forum is interested in, agencies buy in bulk at the upfronts for multiple clients all with different needs, targets and budgets. Say an agency has a client that wants to launch a new product with the campaign planned for February with a certain budget and certain targets. They look at the data and it is a crap load of data that is far more detailed than, here's the 1.5, for 18-49 Sunday at 8:30, and decide the best fit. So one client's needs might be ad time during Scandal while another's clients needs could be better met with time during Galavant. The time that they bought comes with certain CPM guarantees by the network. If they're not met, the network has deliver make goods which comes in the form of additional airtime elsewhere to make up the difference or other recompense. Also buying at upfronts is really just a commitment. They can cancel a certain portion of their commitments at various times throughout the season. And none of this involves the sports advertising which is a different beast.
  14. They are absolutely full of shit as usual. They were not #1 picked show to be cancelled by critics. Even the critics that hated the pilot and called it DOA had other shows worse than Once. That doesn't make them top dog. Maybe they're talking about a random angry twitter. That's probably the only "critics" they read. Seriously here's a sample compilation of all the pilots reviewed for that season. They were middling at worst.http://www.metacritic.com/feature/pilot-reviews-for-2011-tv-season?page=1 Look at Rottentomaotes for the pilot. It's got a 78% fresh rating from critics. That really spells #1 show to be canceled? And by the time the ratings for the pilot came around, it was game over for the prediction game. At the upfronts, the pilot was well received, relatively. It was not a huge gamble by ABC. It got them the 2nd highest ad rate of their new shows that season. Yeah such a huge risk that. It was picked to be the #1 show canceled yet advertisers were willing to pay top dollar of the new ABC shows? ABC saw it as such a huge gamble they priced it the highest of the new bunch and were willing to risk having to deliver make-goods later on? Please. They can go peddle that crap to the people buying bridges. Maybe if Lost never happened, it would've been a huge gamble for them. And I love their sly pat on the back with their in your face "hopeful" show. Coming from the bozos that wanted to kill off Prince Charming 2 mins into the pilot? The ones that had to be reined in by network executives with how is killing Charming hopeful and enticing to women?
  15. That's just flat out wrong. This show was always advertised as character-driven, from top to bottom. ABC doesn't do "plot-driven" dramas. They've branded the ENTIRE network as character driven and yes that's straight from Paul Lee and everyone down below. They scoff at those plot-driven stuff, e.g. procedurals and CBS. Go back to the interviews when A&E first talked about the conception of the show. It's all character, character, character. I dare anyone to find the words "plot-driven" used in a positive or promoting manner coming from Paul Lee, or any exec at ABC, about any show on ABC. Now whether the show is actually character driven or not, is debateable but it was and is advertised as such. As for "millions" of kids watching this show? That is downright laughable and just plain false. If you really had access to the kids 2-11 demos you would know that this show has never, ever had "millions" of kids 2-11 watching it. Not even at its highest series 2-11 demos with Frozen, followed by S1. It's not even the top show on ABC for demos 2-11, S1 again being the exception. Also go look at the press releases from ABC. They call Once, scripted "adult drama." I don't know when they started adding that qualifier to Once, but its there.
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