S04.E12: Leis, Liquor And Lies

[ScoobieDoobs]

Brittany annoys the fuck out of me, otherwise I'd care that Jax treats her so shitty. But I really cannot stand girls like her. She's all up in Lala's face, but won't even entertain the possibility that the flirting was two-sided? That Jax was being shady before she moved out there? I know she wouldn't have the chance to see his current behavior until it aired, but she has surely seen past seasons, no? This guy is a notorious cheater and crosses more lines than 100 strikebreakers. 

 

I was hoping she'd actually listen to Lala and they'd both take Jax to task, but alas, Brittany is dumb. Did anyone else hear Jax say, "I'd never not do that"??? Is he really just that dumb? Or was that his clever way of not lying, but fooling everyone into thinking he was protesting what he did? 

 

I can't say I'm annoyed by Brittany cuz she's making her own choices.  Jax is not in any way pressuring her to stay with him.  She clearly wants to be with him.  This is Jax's MO.  He finds these women who will take his shit for as long as they'll take it.  I'm probably not even gonna call Brittany an idiot anymore, even tho I still think she is one,  Idk, watching her tolerate Jax treating her so badly makes me sad.  Well, here she doesn't know it yet, but they show Jax on cam lying his slimy ass off.  So after watching the show, she now knows he was lying to her.  Makes her look so foolish.  Still hope she's using him to get on TV.

 

So Brittany is merely the latest chick in the long line of chicks who willingly put themselves up for being treated like shit by him.  It's pretty ick to watch.  On WWHL, Satan Andy implied it's fascinating to him to watch.  Seemed misogynistic of him (to me).  Kinda hated it.  But the producers of this show seem pretty fascinated with Jax's behavior toward the women he's with.  Where are the After Show gals?  Now, they would slam Jax as hard as he needs to get slammed.  Loser Michelle Collins did a shitty job of it on WWHL.  Actually, she was acting like she wanted to blow him right then & there, and Jax looked like he wanted to kick her away.  If she was trying to be funny, she failed miserably cuz she looked like a pathetic loser.  And Biff had no effect on Jax at all.  Ugh.

 

I love how Scheana wants to encourage moderation in Shay....by smuggling tequila shots on to the beach in the afternoon. Poor dude doesn't stand a chance. 

 

Ah, yes, I can just picture Scheana's next career move -- addiction counselor to the stars.

[HumblePi]

Jax and James both knew that Lala is a huge flirt and will whip her clothes off at the drop of a hat. Everyone else knew that about her too. Sheana, Katie and Ariana should just suck it up when Lala takes off her clothes in front of their boyfriends or husband. They couldn't prevent Lala from going since she was invited by Jax for his birthday but if they knew they couldn't deal with her nudity then maybe they should have stayed the hell home.

[TattleTeeny]

To be a couple in your early 30's and not having sex for long periods of time is weird, I don't care how long they have been together This is when you are at your sexual peak. Katie and Schwartz have been joking about this for a long time, it's not a recent thing. If it works for them then who cares.  Just sayin' it's not the norm and something is a little off there.

 

With all due respect, one can't know what is the norm for all couples in their 30s without being in bedrooms....or cars, or kitchen floors, or dive-bar bathrooms with them. People can answer whatever they want in whatever polls are conducted for such statistics. Like just about everything else in long-term couplehood, sex is an ebb-and-flow thing, no matter what the ages, and not everyone has a similar sex drive. I'd be willing to bet that their situation is just as common as that of couples with an every-single-night routine.

Edited January 19, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[HumblePi]

Ah, yes, I can just picture Scheana's next career move -- addiction counselor to the stars.

But first Sheana would actually have to memorize the spelling of the word 'counselor' for her business card. Sheana has limits, grammar and spelling are both beyond hers.

[HumblePi]

How many more episodes n this season. Gawd, I hate this show. No, I don't watch it, but it takes up too much valuable timeslottinng on Bravo between WWHL and Monday Night. Ugh, then there will be the endless reunion.

I'm with you here. This mockery of a reality show is produced by Todd and Lisa so all the extravagant trips they take to Vegas or Hawaii are bought and paid for by the rich Vanderpumps in order to have SOME sort of story. There just couldn't be a more immature group of 29+ people anywhere else. Individually, they might not stand out in a crowd as idiotics but the antics of all of them combined as a group makes it seem as though all people in L.A. are shallow, coke-snorting, oversexed, narcissists. It's a horrible show that should never have been produced. But now that it is, it will take a lot of scripted drama to pull it over into another season. They could all take a lesson from this six year old child.

 

https://youtu.be/vm0UNn7tJ5o?t=56s

Edited January 19, 2016 by HumblePi

[psychoticstate]

I seriously love this mess.

 

Flat Iron professing love and adoration to his flat iron was everything.  Everything, I tell you.  No wonder the Nugget is such a smarmy, grumpy bitch.  She has competition!  And yes, while she's always been so impressed with herself and way too cool for school, she has gotten worse.  I think it's probably because deep down she's worried that she's going to lose Flat Iron the same way she got him.  Karma's a bitch.

 

Speaking of the Nugget, I'll concede that she's grumpy but I won't compare her specifically to Grumpy Cat because at least Grumpy Cat is cute.

 

Jax is just a smelly dork (TM Vicki Gunvalson).  Is he too stupid to remember that his conversation with Lala was caught on film?  Duh.  And while he didn't say word for word what Lala said, the gist of it was the same.  If she had been willing, he would have nailed her in the bathroom or the parking lot.  We know that's how Jax rolls.  While I appreciate that Brittany didn't react with the overdone hissy fit hat Flat Iron had over Kristen joining the Hawaii trip, she's still an idiot. 

 

Muppet Baby is just gross and thankfully he wasn't shown a whole lot.  Apparently he went to Hawaii - - HAWAII! - - solely to get laid. 

 

Scheana disappoints me.  Her husband is an addict.  So don't supply him with faux tampons and suntan lotions bottled jacked with tequila.  It's amazing but you can actually go out with your friends and on vacation without getting drunk!  Shocking, I know.

 

I wish we could have heard why Nugget's mama contacted Scheana in the first place and what exactly she said to Scheana to get the text train running over Sandoval.  I do think it was an unfair attack on Flat Iron.  He's not very reasonable when it comes to Kristen but he does seem to go the extra mile for his friends so I don't agree with the assessment that he's out for himself.

 

Lala going topless?  Eh.  I get why Katie might be upset but I also get Lala's POV.  She wasn't strutting around on the beach, she was in the water and mostly covered.   Is this that much different than the guys always taking their pants off?  And what about nearly all of StASSi's important birthday celebrations - - all of them ran naked into the ocean or pool.  So is it okay that StASSi was nekkid as a jaybird around their boyfriends but God forbid Lala take off her top?  And why wasn't Faith taken to task?  She did the same.

 

So next week Jax gets busted for being a dumb smelly dork.  $11,000 bail?  Ha!  Lisa and Ken must have posted it.  And StASSi comes back?  Do I care?  Answer, not really.  Especially if she and Lala are going to be friends.  Booooring.

 

I do love the thought of Flat Iron cheating on the Nugget with Kristen, it fills me with glee.

[TattleTeeny]

I think it's probably because deep down she's worried that she's going to lose Flat Iron the same way she got him.  Karma's a bitch.

 

I see no issue with Ariana at all, and think she's adorable, but I would not be one bit surprised if this was indeed a thing that perhaps plagues her a little bit.

[Blondie]

Grace went topless  also, but no one said a word!  Manufactured drama. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

I do love the thought of Flat Iron cheating on the Nugget with Kristen, it fills me with glee.

 

Oh, pretty please, producers, please bring this to us.  See, now, Kristen really understands & maybe even encourages his flat iron luv, which by all that is holy, should absolutely be encouraged.  Ari is too busy whining, moping & eye rolling.  Be gone already, Ari.  More of Kristen's jittery lunacy, please.  Stassi?  Eh, whatevs.

[ghoulina]

STFU Sheana. Sandoval is a better friend to his buddies and cares more about them than you will ever think about being to anyone. SHE is the one who is self obsessed.

 

Yea, I don't think the girl who has 10 foot wedding pictures of herself all over the apartment is one to comment on who is self obsessed and who is not. 

 

To be a couple in your early 30's and not having sex for long periods of time is weird, I don't care how long they have been together This is when you are at your sexual peak.

 

But not everyone is as sexual as everyone else. Some people have naturally low sex drives, and it's not an indication of anything being wrong with the relationship. The problem here is, IMO, they don't seem to be on the same page. Tom seems to be unsatisfied with the amount of sex he's getting. Maybe he'd never be truly "satisfied", we don't really know just how much sex they're having. 

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

On This Week's Vanderpump Rules, Lala Means Hello AND Goodbye
The Hawaii trip begins with text-message drama, toplessness, and Jax reverting to full sociopath.

[ghoulina]

Jax and James both knew that Lala is a huge flirt and will whip her clothes off at the drop of a hat. Everyone else knew that about her too. Sheana, Katie and Ariana should just suck it up when Lala takes off her clothes in front of their boyfriends or husband.

 

To be fair, Ariana was the only one of those three girls there when it happened, and she specifically said she didn't care. Lala point blank asked her, when Katie was losing her shit, and Ariana said she wasn't bothered by it, and Lala was under the water and you really couldn't see anything anyhow. 

 

Jax is just a smelly dork (TM Vicki Gunvalson).  Is he too stupid to remember that his conversation with Lala was caught on film?  Duh.

 

Maybe he thinks when he whispers the mics can't pick it up?

 

Muppet Baby is just gross and thankfully he wasn't shown a whole lot.  Apparently he went to Hawaii - - HAWAII! - - solely to get laid.

 

And I sincerely hope it doesn't happen. 

[runforcover]

Ugh Scheanz and her stupid doubling-down "Yeah?  And I Stand By It." Nobody's questioning if you didn't mean it enough, dummy. Be quiet.

 

Why do I think that Jax is a great reality Tv star and possibly a dude with a complex head?  He's switched from dopey sociopath to believably navigating the terrain like a champ, and I'm buyin' it.  

 

Lala, you transcend.  You don't even have to try.

 

Is it just me or is policing all of the ladies to act like ladies a huge sexual and emotional turn off?  Seems like poor strategy if nothing else.  

 

Not that much James and Max seemed high as shit.  

I would love to know the opiate addiction/abuse ins and outs of the VR empire.  I bet Schwartzy is barely awake most of the time.

[Duke2801]

berly57, on 19 Jan 2016 - 1:11 PM, said:

I don't know why the hell I continue to watch -- just one question . . . as has been asked many times before by many people -- just how the fuck old are these people???? I realize this is a t.v. show and there has to be "drama" but this episode was just ridiculous!!!

 

Ranging in age from 22 (James) to 36 (Jax).  But the majority are early 30s.

Blondie, on 19 Jan 2016 - 2:40 PM, said:

Grace went topless  also, but no one said a word!  Manufactured drama. 

 

Who is Grace?

 

I am surprised she didn't pull out a rum ham next!

 

 

LMAO!  A tip of the hat to you for this wonderful reference!  Kadoooz! 

 

Isn't it Sandoval who was best man (or one of) for Shay? And isn't it Sandoval that went out of his way to have a shirt custom made for Shay for his wedding day? STFU Sheana. Sandoval is a better friend to his buddies and cares more about them than you will ever think about being to anyone. SHE is the one who is self obsessed. Just look at the way she treats her husband.  She was totally out of line saying those things to Ariana's mother. 

 

To be a couple in your early 30's and not having sex for long periods of time is weird, I don't care how long they have been together This is when you are at your sexual peak. Katie and Schwartz have been joking about this for a long time, it's not a recent thing. If it works for them then who cares.  Just sayin' it's not the norm and something is a little off there. 

 

OH FFS, it is NOT weird that a long-term couple isn't doing it like rabbits. Everybody has different levels of sexuality that often have nothing to do with age.  I know people who hit their sexual peak in their 20s, some in their 30s and some in their 40s.  Everybody is different.  

 

Not to mention, that different meds have a profound effect on peoples' sexual drive.  I know Tom and Katie have mentioned more than once about Tom's "anxiety issues."  He might be on meds that dampen his appetite. 

[HumblePi]

Yea, I don't think the girl who has 10 foot wedding pictures of herself all over the apartment is one to comment on who is self obsessed and who is not. 

 

 

 

 

But not everyone is as sexual as everyone else. Some people have naturally low sex drives, and it's not an indication of anything being wrong with the relationship. The problem here is, IMO, they don't seem to be on the same page. Tom seems to be unsatisfied with the amount of sex he's getting. Maybe he'd never be truly "satisfied", we don't really know just how much sex they're having. 

Maybe it was just her time of the month and that's why she didn't go on the hike to the waterfall.

[ghoulina]

Who is Grace?

 

I think the poster meant Faith, the one that supposedly likes Max. It's true that she went topless as well, and no one mentioned it. Maybe that's because she hasn't made it clear that she intends to flirt her way through SUR, but I can't say for sure.

[tenativelyyours]

Tom Schwartz strikes me as having low brain activity so I would not be surprised he has a low sex drive.  Throw in the unwashed laziness and maybe Katie just can't stand three seconds of thrust in exchange for having those pits waft over her head.  In fact my bigger surprise is not the lack of sex between them as the idea they ever had sex in the first place.  I still harbor doubts they are anything but a contrived 'you're my boyfriend and I'll help you become a regular on the show' moment.  I think every single entanglement Schwartz has experiences has been one of passive acceptance on his part. 

 

Katie has always seemed way too invested in what others think so she could well be stupid enough to simply want the idea of a boyfriend/fiance/husband without considering that means another actual person and not a concept that looks a bit better than average until the flabby bit of hair fluff takes off his shirt and looks like he made his own torso out of silly putty.  Heck, the Bachelor exists for a reason.  The idea that you are so special to be on tv and then you find love and even marriage.  Wow!  That makes you soooo special.  I saw Trista Reyn post Bachelorette marriage in her natural setting on and off for two years.  That marriage was and I suspect always has been a hostage situation with Stockholm Syndrome on her husband's part. 

 

But I also would not be surprised if we see them milk this relationship for as long as the show persists. 

 

No Crap Jax this week,  Just the regular version back to being full of shit instead of watching him manage his inventory,  So there was that at least.

[nexxie]

imo Jax and Lala deserve each other.

[berly57]

Ranging in age from 22 (James) to 36 (Jax).  But the majority are early 30s.

 

LOL -- No, I knew how old they were . . . just being sarcastic. Just amazes me that they act like this.

[beaker73]

Lala is trying way too hard. It's kind of sad. And stop saying "your man." You sound stupid.

Schwartzie and the whole boob thing was hilarious. Gawd, I love him.

Max couldn't look more bored. Why is he even there?

James is gross. Like, disgusting in every way possible.

I loved all the Stassi birthday flashbacks.

Scheana, Scheana, Scheana. Your husband has a substance abuse issue, but, yeah, doing every other shot and only one beer bong will do the trick. Sure.

[njbchlover]

Yeah, he was just miming jerking off. Like ghoulina said they save the gay stuff for heteronormative bullshit weekends. 

 

I thought that was what I saw, and then I thought "Noooo, I did not just see that....this guy is an 'adulting' adult!!!!"  

 

That was so immature!  

[Budgita]

I was hoping they would cut to Sandoval yelling about Kristen not coming on his birthday spliced with the Stassi birthday flashback scenes for a "non diva" mash up as well.

Also kind of on the fence about Scheanner texting back amazing Ari's mom. I mean she's always over sharing so it's not surprising and I think it was around the time of Miami girl when she wouldn't have been too keen on Ari's boo piece. Especially if her own was out drinking and druggin in his parents basement. Not saying it's okay..just makes more sense than some of her other antics

Why is my reaction to this episode so serious? Where's Stass?

[ninjago]

Unless your friend is dating like Sean Penn or Brooks Ayers, you don't tell your friend's mom that kind of shit about your friend's SO.  It's not fair to the friend,the SO, or the mother.

 

Scheana doesn't want to be left out if/when Katie starts to hang out with Kristin again, but she also doesn't want to get left out when Sandoval and Adriana hang out with Schwartz and Katie.  That's why she's trying to force Adriana to "let it go" and "quit being so negative" about Kristin, which is what motivated those text to Adriana's mom.  She's motivated purely by FOMO.

 

If Adriana has changed her attitude, it's because Scheana seems to consider her couple year old, on-again, off-again friendship with Kristin equally as important as her years long "best friendship" with Adriana.  Katie and Kristin have a long history, so I understand why Katie's motivation for wanting Adriana to forgive Kristin, but Scheana has shown no loyalty or empathy to Adriana at all, despite having a volatile relationship with Kristin herself.  I'd be standoffish and pissed at Scheana too.

 

And Shay owes Sandoval an apology.  Sandoval went to bat for Shay against Shay's own wife over some super-serious shit, and then Shay stands with Scheana, saying Sandoval only cares about himself?  These people are horrible friends.

Edited January 20, 2016 by ninjago

[walnutqueen]

Can we just get to the part where Stassi cries?  With a short stop at Jax in jail?

[Ubiquitous]

Wait, what?  Wait, what?  Running to watch this ep on demand -- well, maybe not running.  Given that Bravo ain't allowed to show peen, was this a porn version of VPR?  The one where Sandoval ditches sour/dour Ari & reveals his true relationship with his flat iron?

When they were checking out their room, after they discovered there were two balconies, Tom said something like "Hey, I can watch you thru these blinds!". Right before they cut away, I noticed something going on down there...

[Forrealforreal]

Jail, Jax and Stassi Oh My!! The anticipation I have is almost cumbersome..

Yeah Schmeeaner was out of line but when is she isn't? Her consistency to fail is like Jax in that way. A genius like Ari should know what she's dealing with by now so I have no sympathy for her.

Pity for Tom and his Lonley FI though..but hopefully not for long ;)

[tenativelyyours]

Jail, Jax and Stassi Oh My!! The anticipation I have is almost cumbersome..

Yeah Schmeeaner was out of line but when is she isn't? Her consistency to fail is like Jax in that way. A genius like Ari should know what she's dealing with by now so I have no sympathy for her.

Pity for Tom and his Lonley FI though..but hopefully not for long ;)

 

I find room in my heart to find both of them equally loathsome.  But it is kind of funny as Ariana was the one that insisted she was always the smartest person in a room.  I guess it depends on whether there is anyone in the room with her.  A dead plant and a goldfish bowl that has been empty for years don't count you wacky genius, you.

[Granimal]

I was hoping they would cut to Sandoval yelling about Kristen not coming on his birthday spliced with the Stassi birthday flashback scenes for a "non diva" mash up as well.

 

 

Yes! That would have been perfect after he said, "It's my birthday, but don't expect any special treatment or tantrums from me!" (Not his exact words, but you get the drift.)

 

Very newly engaged here, and the sex- thing, well to each their own. Don't want to make it personal, but I'm not that shocked. Many of my friends lived with their boyfriends for years before their engagement, so its not like much changed for them in that department.

 

And by the way, didn't Sandoval clean up in the scorching heat after Scheana's dream wedding?  (Always out for himself- my ass.)

Edited January 20, 2016 by Granimal

[cherry slushie]

Wow - leave it to this group to ruin a vacation in Paradise!!  

 

Schaena is really turning into Stassi 2.0....quite the little shit stirrer, isn't she?  Between the texts to Ariana's Mom, and subsequent insults directed at both Ariana and Tom, throwing Jax under the bus (where he deserves to be, imo), and declaring that Ariana is no longer her bff, but Katie is - geez, woman!!  She definitely has a jr. high mentality when it comes to her friends - she has a brand new best friend every three months!!  Also, cannot, cannot, cannot fucking understand WHY she would be giving Shay tequila and the comments she made about him and his drinking.  Does this guy really have a substance abuse problem or not?  

 

Speaking of Shay - did anyone else notice what he said when talking to Ariana and Tom about the text messages?  He mentioned something like "There's someone else behind it" or "There's something else behind it"....I didn't really understand what he said or what he meant.

 

Jax....always the sleaze and always the lying liar who lies.  He absolutely did make those comments to Lala - hasn't he realized yet that there are cameras and mics around, just waiting to catch someone in something, and he gets caught more often that not.  Brittany needs to run, fly, jump or whatever to get her butt out of there - quickly!! 

 

Lala - I don't like her, but I did feel just a teeny bit sad for her, when she was trying to convince Brittany that Jax is a liar, and she wasn't getting anywhere.  And, where the hell was lover-boy James during all of this?  Getting his drunk on at the bar?  Sorry, James, don't think you're going to be getting lucky tonight!  But, I agree with the other girls - she should not be all "nature girl" around a group that may not be into that kind of thing.  Katie seems like a pretty conservative girl most of the time, of course she wasn't going to like that.  Lala needs to realize that she's not on a sugar daddy's yacht in the Mediterranean, where that is much more acceptable and not considered outlandish or attention grabbing.

 

Katie - Worst thing you can do is dis your boyfriend's best friend.  Bad, bad, bad move.  Wonder if that is one of the things that will lead up to the preview we saw when Tom comments about "can't believe I almost married you"....

 

Max needs to go home.  He looks and seems very out of place and uncomfortable around this group of idiots!!  

 

Yes, there is something or someone else behind it - PRODUCTION.  They're the ones setting up these ridiculously contrived storylines!

 

Lala is an actress who was hired a la Vail, who was too conservative for VPR.  The whole Jax - Lala storyline is BS.  

 

All of them are such bad actors, that it's hard to watch.  I think the only real moments we've seen thus far was James breaking into tears when talking to his Mom about about the divorce and Ariana talking about her Dad.

 

Speaking of, Ariana is no longer the cool girl to me.  Such kvetching and whining.  Then again, she's probably acting too, which is why her behavior seems so off and doesn't fit her personality.

Edited January 20, 2016 by cherry slushie

[TattleTeeny]

I thought that was what I saw, and then I thought "Noooo, I did not just see that....this guy is an 'adulting' adult!!!!" 

That was so immature!

 

Eh, who cares, I say? My BF and I are in our mid-40s and it would be a gigantic lie to say that neither of us ever does anything immature in the comforts of our own home or a hotel room. Not that we're on TV or anything, but I'd wonder what the hell was wrong with any person who never did a single thing that could be labeled gross or juvenile. In fact, I'm not even sure I know a person who doesn't.

Edited January 20, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[bichonblitz]

 

 

 

OH FFS, it is NOT weird that a long-term couple isn't doing it like rabbits. Everybody has different levels of sexuality that often have nothing to do with age.  I know people who hit their sexual peak in their 20s, some in their 30s and some in their 40s.  Everybody is different.  

 

Not to mention, that different meds have a profound effect on peoples' sexual drive.  I know Tom and Katie have mentioned more than once about Tom's "anxiety issues."  He might be on meds that dampen his appetite. 

Oh, Duke2801, it is quite common for you to disagree with one of my posts. We are all entitled to our own opinion. So I'll say it again. IT IS WEIRD. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by bichonblitz

[TattleTeeny]

And I'll say this: that ^ is super-judgmental, and not even based in fact.

[ghoulina]

Schwartzie and the whole boob thing was hilarious. Gawd, I love him.

 

Oh man, that was great. He was like, "I didn't LOOK at the boobs. I was looking, and they just came into my line of vision". Then, "I was turning, and there they were. I kept turning!" 

 

Max couldn't look more bored. Why is he even there?

 

So James could get laid? At least that's what he kept saying. I'm not sure how that works. Does Lala's vagina not operate if Faith's isn't in use?

[DrSparkles]

As gross & revolting as Jax is, Satan Andy is worse. Had him on WWHL (AGAIN) so that people could shit all over him. I'm not defending Jax or his behavior, but jesus. Also? Biff needs to calm down & take ALL of the seats.

Lala is in search of attention. Taking of her top & then rubbing all up on Faith -- attention-seeker. Ariana, FOR ONCE, had the right reaction: bored now.

Scheanay is also attention-seeking. One difference between her & Lala & that Scheanay's efforts affect/hurt other people. And bc it can't be said enough, her thoughts & actions re: Shay's sobriety are FUBAR!!! Take about someone whose mama needs a phone call!! SHUT  UP Sheanay.

James is repulsive.

[bblancobrnx]

To be honest...I thought Jax took everything in stride and really well on WWHL. He said he didn't care at all what people thought and it was truly believable. Good for him on not caring what people think. I have actually really been enjoying Jax this year

[Ubiquitous]

Oh man, that was great. He was like, "I didn't LOOK at the boobs. I was looking, and they just came into my line of vision". Then, "I was turning, and there they were. I kept turning!"

Methinks Shwartzie didn't want to hurt his greater-than-zero chances of getting nooky with Katie.

 

So James could get laid? At least that's what he kept saying. I'm not sure how that works. Does Lala's vagina not operate if Faith's isn't in use?

According to DJ Muppet Baby, if Faith and Max fool around, that will leave Lala alone with him.

[ghoulina]

According to DJ Muppet Baby, if Faith and Max fool around, that will leave Lala alone with him.

 

Yea, I figured that was what he meant, I was being a bit snarky. 

 

But, really, that mentality is pathetic and doesn't speak well for James. If Lala liked him enough, she'd find a way to get some alone time with him. 

[BogoGog24]

I think it's telling that Lala would rather be pressed up naked against Faith than James. After a few shots of James in his underwear, I don't blame her. He's way too skinny, IMO.

[BogoGog24]

Also I don't think it is really that strange that Katie and Tom go for periods without sex. They've lived together for several years, so it's not like getting engaged suddenly changes very much. I know they are wanting to have "celebration" sex though and the fact they haven't had it yet after the engagement does strike me as weird. General sex though, well we don't know their sexual history, perhaps they were always that way and getting engaged wouldn't really change that. That being said, I do think there's a disconnect between them. It's like Katie only stays with him because she thinks she wouldn't get anyone better even though I think she certainly could. I think Katie sees through Schwartz's immaturity and is sick of it, he needs to get a real job and commit to something, etc. but I think she's afraid to break up with him. She likes the familiarity of the relationship more than the relationship itself IMO.

Edited January 20, 2016 by BogoGog24

[ScoobieDoobs]

To be honest...I thought Jax took everything in stride and really well on WWHL. He said he didn't care at all what people thought and it was truly believable. Good for him on not caring what people think. I have actually really been enjoying Jax this year

 

Well, I sorta agree with you -- but really only about Jax not caring what people think of him & not being affected at all by Biff's attack.  I don't especially enjoy Biff, even tho Satan Andy seems to now luv him.  At least the After Show gals seemed somewhat intelligent & were kinda funny.  Eh, Biff is humorless & he's way too intense for me.

 

Idk, Jax''s behavior is so reprehensible, I can't exactly say I luv watching him.  I sure as fuck don't wanna see him taking dumps anymore, thank you.  The thing is, I'm completely baffled how he has any friends or why Brittany is still with him.  We see Brittany is clearly bothered by whatever is going on between him & Lala.  That's why she confronted Lala.  So now that she's watched the show (presumably she's watched it) & sees how Jax totally lied to her about Lala, wouldn't she be bothered by it?  See, this I don't get.  If her attitude was they'd have an open relationship & he could go after whoever he wants to, that would be one thing.  But that doesn't seem to be the case.  Wonder what exactly is going on between them.

[gunderda]

Katie and Tom have practically been married for years already.  Not sure there is common-law in CA but if there is, well then they are. 

So no, it's not weird that they don't have a super high sex drive. 

Katie's probably on some sort of birth control and some of those decrease the sex drive a lot. 

[RedDelicious]

I definitely think it is weird that Katie and Schwartz are sans nookie for long periods of time.  It's not like they have full time day jobs or a family to take care of.  Varying sex drives, prescription medication, blah blah blah.  Their relationship is dullsville. 

[OnceSane]

Keep it to the show, folks, not each other.

[bblancobrnx]

Well, I sorta agree with you -- but really only about Jax not caring what people think of him & not being affected at all by Biff's attack. I don't especially enjoy Biff, even tho Satan Andy seems to now luv him. At least the After Show gals seemed somewhat intelligent & were kinda funny. Eh, Biff is humorless & he's way too intense for me.

Idk, Jax''s behavior is so reprehensible, I can't exactly say I luv watching him. I sure as fuck don't wanna see him taking dumps anymore, thank you. The thing is, I'm completely baffled how he has any friends or why Brittany is still with him. We see Brittany is clearly bothered by whatever is going on between him & Lala. That's why she confronted Lala. So now that she's watched the show (presumably she's watched it) & sees how Jax totally lied to her about Lala, wouldn't she be bothered by it? See, this I don't get. If her attitude was they'd have an open relationship & he could go after whoever he wants to, that would be one thing. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Wonder what exactly is going on between them.

I guess I should clarify... I have enjoyed watching James get a rise out of Jax (though I think James is a psychopath). I always enjoy watching how ridiculous Jax is with his habitual lying and ridiculous behavior. I did not enjoy watching him taking a dump. I thought it was so gross and his explanation of why he left the door open on wwhl was just ridiculous. I just enjoy the fact that he is a chucklefuck and acts the fool for our amusement and just doesn't care enough what people think to change that Edited January 20, 2016 by bblancobrnx

[BogoGog24]

I guess I should clarify... I have enjoyed watching James get a rise out of Jax (though I think James is a psychopath). I always enjoy watching how ridiculous Jax is with his habitual lying and ridiculous behavior. I did not enjoy watching him taking a dump. I thought it was so gross and his explanation of why he left the door open on wwhl was just ridiculous. I just enjoy the fact that he is a chucklefuck and acts the fool for our amusement and just doesn't care enough what people think to change that

I didn't see WWHL. What was his reason for leaving the door open?

[potato]

Remember her "introductory" episode?  She was having drinks with Sheana and she was like, "sorry, but I am prettier than you, I am smarter than you, get over it..." (toward Kristen)  She has been this way ALL ALONG! 

 

Also, I happen to catch that episode again and she looks so different in that scene.  Like 10 years older than she is.  Weird!

 

Yup. Ariana has ALWAYS been a smug bitch. It was just overshadowed by Kristen's craziness. 

 

Regarding the sex debate...I think lack of sex in long term relationships is not uncommon. That doesn't mean it's always healthy, though. And what we've seen on this show of Katie and Schwartz discussing their sex woes neither seems to be totally okay with their situation. I do think there is some genuine love and affection there but mostly I think they are both settling with what's comfortable. 

 

I get Katie's discomfort over Lala's toplessness but I also don't think Lala was being an attention whore about it (for once) so it was really a non issue. Newsflash, girl, your man has definitely seen plenty of titties that aren't yours. They're just boobs. 

 

I don't think Brittany is so dumb that she believes Jax' lies but I do think that she is dumb enough to not care in order to date a z-lister and be on TV. It does drive me crazy that Jax consistently gets away with being a total piece of shit. He will never change. 

 

Oh and I'm partly convinced that the Shay storyline was either fake as fuck or heavily exaggerated. Like maybe he was partying too much and dealing with depression but he was never legitimately addicted to any substances. Because from everything I understand about addiction it doesn't work at all like what's been portrayed. I will say I do find it believable that Scheana would be so stupid and selfish as to not understand the full weight of what being an addict is. 

[bblancobrnx]

I didn't see WWHL. What was his reason for leaving the door open?

Because he had to talk to Brittany and couldn't do so through the closed door (which took him a few seconds to come up with that absurd reason).

By the way, Sur Back Alley has 5 times the Twitter followers as Sandoval's band Charles McMansion. Probably mostly because Peanut is about 2500 times more witty and charming than Sandoval is

[BogoGog24]

Because he had to talk to Brittany and couldn't do so through the closed door (which took him a few seconds to come up with that absurd reason).

By the way, Sur Back Alley has 5 times the Twitter followers as Sandoval's band Charles McMansion. Probably mostly because Peanut is about 2500 times more witty and charming than Sandoval is

LOL Really? That was his excuse? Right, so #1 he had to talk to Brittany right at the same exact moment he had to take a dump and the conversation couldn't have waited 2 minutes till he was done and #2 he can't talk loud enough to be heard through a door? Nope, Jax is just disgusting like that and lives like a caveman. The only thing more strange than Jax taking a dump with the door wide open and in front of cameras on national TV is that Brittany didn't even question it. Yup they're a match made in heaven.

[Rebecca]

I think Brittany has an IQ in the low 80s...it's really the only explanation. Even if she were with Jaxass to be on tv...she would still be stupid because she would be choosing to make herself look like a fool on tv...just to be on said tv.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Rebecca

[bblancobrnx]

LOL Really? That was his excuse? Right, so #1 he had to talk to Brittany right at the same exact moment he had to take a dump and the conversation couldn't have waited 2 minutes till he was done and #2 he can't talk loud enough to be heard through a door? Nope, Jax is just disgusting like that and lives like a caveman. The only thing more strange than Jax taking a dump with the door wide open and in front of cameras on national TV is that Brittany didn't even question it. Yup they're a match made in heaven.

Yeah, Andy asked him why we had to watch him poop...he said that he couldn't very well ask the cameras to leave to which Andy and the other guest asked incredulously why the door was left wide open. He did one of his stalling moves where he repeats the question he is asked and then came out with that lame little gem about talking to brit ...so obviously closing the door never even occurred to him