Erika Girardi/Erika Jayne: Let them eat cake

[KFC]

Ken was still hot and extremely popular when Lisa married him.  She was 21, while he was 36 when they married.  He is 15 years older than she is.

 

Erika is 44 and her husband is 76.  He is 32 years older than she is.  That's more than double Ken's age over Lisa's.  He was 60 and she was 27 when they married.

That makes Erika's husband twice as much older than she was when they married. 

 

There really is no comparison.  Whatever, it works for them.  He gets a hot Barbie doll to play with, she gets her "music" financed and to be covered in cash.  I agree, it works for them, they are both getting what they want.

 

Of course there's a comparison. Both married older, wealthy men and have been with them ever since. And I point it out that in both cases, the marriages are still in tact and no one's being abused (that we know of), so what's there to criticize if it's working for all parties involved?

 

There's no magic number of age-difference acceptability. Is a 19-year age difference more acceptable than a 20-year one? How about 20 years vs. 21? 

 

I mean, if it really is a case of "whatever, it works for them," why even point it out again?

Edited March 2, 2016 by KFC

[breezy424]

If Erika and Tom's marriage works for them.  Heck, good for them.  Same goes for Lisa and Ken.

 

With that said, it does bother me when a twenty something marries a sixty plus or in that area.  It just does.  I find it a bit creepy.  Am I right to feel that way?  Maybe not.  But I do know that I would be really upset if one of my twenty something old kids chose to do that.  It just wouldn't feel ok.

[Umbelina]

 

 

He looks like her grandfather, and technically, he could be.  One kid impregnates a girl at 16, and then his son does the same thing at 15.

 

 

I guess Ken could have been her dad too, but he would have to be 14 1/4 to have done it.

 

I mean, what's that saying or game where you either die or do one of these men?  Is there really any question which guy you would choose?  And Lisa is 11 years older than Erika!  No, looks aren't everything, but I mean, seriously?  Ugh, shudder, /Samantha on S&TC here.

Edited March 2, 2016 by Umbelina

[Inspectabecky]

Marrying someone for their money doesn't mean you cant develop feelings or even love for them eventually.  The difference is that the opportunity to feel that wouldn't have come about without the cash.. It's not black and white.. its gold. digging. lol

[LIMOM]

That old dude got something going on besides his bucks, IMO.

I can see why someone would fall for him, however the idea of having sexy times with him would remove all initial attraction.,,,

[jinjer]

I wonder if Erika was raised by her grandmother and lacked a father figure, and that's where Tom comes in.

 

I think the length of their marriage is praiseworthy in Hollywood.  He could've traded her in by now.  It always strikes me how covered up Erika is when she isn't performing. 

[PhilMarlowe2]

This quote from her blog made me laugh:

 

 

Watching Kathryn discuss her mother’s early stages of dementia with her sisters struck me very deeply. I, too, remember when my grandmother was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s and how I watched her decay over the next decade. Perhaps they will shed more than “six tears.”

[Umbelina]

Marrying someone for their money doesn't mean you cant develop feelings or even love for them eventually.  The difference is that the opportunity to feel that wouldn't have come about without the cash.. It's not black and white.. its gold. digging. lol

Yeah, we've seen how well he treats her personally.  "I'm talking now."  So loving, so respectful...no WONDER she loves the old coot!  Nothing to do with the private jet(s) or the money, nothing at all.  Ha!

Edited March 2, 2016 by Umbelina

[MatildaMoody]

I don't think she, Lisa, looked "beat" or "pissed", I think she really saw WHO Erika is for the first time and realized she was looking at scum. JMO though. LOL

 

I totally agree. Lisa had been under the impression that she and Ericka were forming a friendship based on the face that Ericka had shown Lisa all this time. She had no idea that Ericka felt the least bit of animosity towards her until that point. It had to come as a surprise to find that Ericka felt this way but had said NOTHING about it. So, I think Lisa realized she was dealing with a 2 faced snake in that moment. 

[zoeysmom]

I don't think she, Lisa, looked "beat" or "pissed", I think she really saw WHO Erika is for the first time and realized she was looking at scum. JMO though. LOL

I think Erika realizes she has a mental midget in Yolanda as an ally over the explanation of just how and when they became friends.  Erika feels guarded over the question because she does not understand half of what is being presented about Yolanda.  Although for someone who claims to have never watched the show the Bobby Fisher comments came rolling off her tongue.

[Darren-5-08]

Of course there's a comparison. Both married older, wealthy men and have been with them ever since. And I point it out that in both cases, the marriages are still in tact and no one's being abused (that we know of), so what's there to criticize if it's working for all parties involved?

 

There's no magic number of age-difference acceptability. Is a 19-year age difference more acceptable than a 20-year one? How about 20 years vs. 21? 

 

I mean, if it really is a case of "whatever, it works for them," why even point it out again?

 

Except Lisa V didn't marry an older, wealthy man. Lisa V and Ken mostly built their business together. An article about them in 2002 wrote about how 20 years into their marriage they had built up their fortune together, and had sold 4 of their bars for £10million. Even Lisa's engagement ring was bought fairly recently when they could afford to buy one with a more extravagant stone.

[Wings]

Erika was cast to be Yolanda's ally, clearly.  She was told and believed that Yo was being picked on and not understood by the rest of the cast.  Oh and don't let on that you don't know her.  So, she accepted that role because she is going to get exposure for her act.  Yahoo!  She is paranoid to lose a shot at next season by admitting she has no clue what is going on with Yo.  

 

It must becoming clear that she is on the wrong side of the fence to realize her goal of being nationally known, as the fabulous Erika Jayne and housewife extraordinaire!   Longevity on this series is in question.  

[jinjer]

Erika was cast to be Yolanda's ally, clearly.  She was told and believed that Yo was being picked on and not understood by the rest of the cast.  Oh and don't let on that you don't know her.  So, she accepted that role because she is going to get exposure for her act.  Yahoo!  She is paranoid to lose a shot at next season by admitting she has no clue what is going on with Yo.  

 

It must becoming clear that she is on the wrong side of the fence to realize her goal of being nationally known, as the fabulous Erika Jayne and housewife extraordinaire!   Longevity on this series is in question.  

Well if she were "cast" wouldn't that justify even more her feeling that LVP and Kathryn asking those questions were attempts to undermine Erika's standing on the show? If it were her "storyline," the other HWs would know it, and their attempts to bring it up on camera would be dickish or sniperish/manipulative to either undermine Erika and/or Yolanda. So LVP shouldn't be surprised at all that Erika would feel the way she felt when LVP asked her how long she knew Yolanda on film.

[Wings]

Well if she were "cast" wouldn't that justify even more her feeling that LVP and Kathryn asking those questions were attempts to undermine Erika's standing on the show? If it were her "storyline," the other HWs would know it, and their attempts to bring it up on camera would be dickish or sniperish/manipulative to either undermine Erika and/or Yolanda. So LVP shouldn't be surprised at all that Erika would feel the way she felt when LVP asked her how long she knew Yolanda on film.

 

 

Well yes, of course.  Erika definitely picked up on that!  That is my point.  I don't think the other HWs were told why Erika is there but they picked up on it very quickly when she did not smell like a friend Yo would have.

 

The dance they were doing was transparent.  They both had each others number!  Loved it.  

 

 Why do you have quotation marks around the word cast?  There is no such word as casted if that is what you mean.  Cast is both a noun and verb both present and past tense.  

Edited March 2, 2016 by wings707

[Higgins]

Yeah, we've seen how well he treats her personally.  "I'm talking now."  So loving, so respectful...no WONDER she loves the old coot!  Nothing to do with the private jet(s) or the money, nothing at all.  Ha!

When you marry for money, you earn every penny.

[breezy424]

IIRC, Kyle also asked Erika how long she knew Yo.  But Erika likes Kyle.

 

Why would Erika be so suspicious of being asked about how long she knew Yo if, in fact, they were friends for a long time.  As someone else stated the lady doth protest too much.  Maybe because the friendship isn't what she and Yo are trying to portray.

[SilverPoet01]

Love this bitch.  She calls her Husband 'The Boss' - she totally knows the score.  That said, I don't sense cheater in her - that isn't what she's about.  It seems like their relationship is built 100% on understanding and respect.  They wouldn't be married that many years or look at each other that way if not.  She knows she has it good and he wears the pants and always will.

I think it's interesting that the Bravo story editors are letting so many of LVP's breadcrumbs out - we've known that she's driving the stories for a long time, but either she's gotten lazy or all the women have grown tired of it.    

I think it's almost clear that Erika has been called in to 'out' her on being the mastermind for a lot of the drama.

Btw, Erika calling Kathryn those choice words made my week.  lol.

[rho]

Love this bitch.  She calls her Husband 'The Boss' - she totally knows the score.  That said, I don't sense cheater in her - that isn't what she's about.  It seems like their relationship is built 100% on understanding and respect.  They wouldn't be married that many years or look at each other that way if not.  She knows she has it good and he wears the pants and always will.

 

Well that and all the men she knows are gay

[kokapetl]

I wonder if Mr Girardi pays for Erika's gay club singer hobby because its a way of keeping her away from straight men.

[zoeysmom]

Well if she were "cast" wouldn't that justify even more her feeling that LVP and Kathryn asking those questions were attempts to undermine Erika's standing on the show? If it were her "storyline," the other HWs would know it, and their attempts to bring it up on camera would be dickish or sniperish/manipulative to either undermine Erika and/or Yolanda. So LVP shouldn't be surprised at all that Erika would feel the way she felt when LVP asked her how long she knew Yolanda on film.

Erika had an unusually strong response to the question.  I am getting the impression by now, if LVP, Kyle or Yolanda introduce somebody they come with an explanation.  Kathryn asked Kyle how long she had known Faye and then made some comment about how it meant something because the met the year of the OJ murders, Kathryn asked Eileen what year and really pinned her down to when she dated Marcus Allen.  Kyle offered up the friend she met up with San Diego had been  a lifelong friend. 

 

Now that Erika has made a big deal of it, I guess she will need to explain it further.  Yolanda never having seen Erika perform was pretty much an indication the two weren't exactly joined at the hip.  I would be curious if Erika had even met the children before she signed up with RHOBH.

Edited March 3, 2016 by zoeysmom

[Darren-5-08]

Love this bitch.  She calls her Husband 'The Boss' - she totally knows the score.  That said, I don't sense cheater in her - that isn't what she's about.  It seems like their relationship is built 100% on understanding and respect.  They wouldn't be married that many years or look at each other that way if not.  She knows she has it good and he wears the pants and always will.

I think it's interesting that the Bravo story editors are letting so many of LVP's breadcrumbs out - we've known that she's driving the stories for a long time, but either she's gotten lazy or all the women have grown tired of it.    

I think it's almost clear that Erika has been called in to 'out' her on being the mastermind for a lot of the drama.

Btw, Erika calling Kathryn those choice words made my week.  lol.

 

I definitely don't smell a cheater in Erika either. I'm guessing her lawyer husband, Tom Geriatri-ardi, will have a cast iron pre-nup, and I don't think an extramarital affair would see her get much in the divorce. She's have to go back to dancing for dollar bills.

[Higgins]

Erika had an unusually strong response to the question.  I am getting the impression by now, if LVP, Kyle or Yolanda introduce somebody they come with an explanation.  Kathryn asked Kyle how long she had known Faye and then made some comment about how it meant something because the met the year of the OJ murders, Kathryn asked Eileen what year and really pinned her down to when she dated Marcus Allen.  Kyle offered up the friend she met up with San Diego had been  a lifelong friend. 

 

Now that Erika has made a big deal of it, I guess she will need to explain it further.  Yolanda never having seen Erika perform was pretty much an indication the two weren't exactly joined at the hip.  I would be curious if Erika had even met the children before she signed up with RHOBH.

She is defensive because their friendship is a sham.

[jinjer]

Well yes, of course.  Erika definitely picked up on that!  That is my point.  I don't think the other HWs were told why Erika is there but they picked up on it very quickly when she did not smell like a friend Yo would have.

 

The dance they were doing was transparent.  They both had each others number!  Loved it.  

 

 Why do you have quotation marks around the word cast?  There is no such word as casted if that is what you mean.  Cast is both a noun and verb both present and past tense.  

Nothing so sinister as grammar lol - I put quotes around cast because I was using it in the sense of "now playing the role of Yolanda's friend" not just being hired to be the new HW on the show. 

[Wings]

Nothing so sinister as grammar lol - I put quotes around cast because I was using it in the sense of "now playing the role of Yolanda's friend" not just being hired to be the new HW on the show. 

 

 

Ha ha ha!  Production did not brief her fully on her role either!  

[notnowimbusy]

Erika said they were "couple" friends with YO & David.  Well, maybe she can strike up a new friendship with Jerry Hall & Rupert Murdoch - she's 59, he's 89.  I'm sure they would have a lot in common.

[Umbelina]

Erika Jayne Retweeted
Brandi Glanville ‏@BrandiGlanville 5h5 hours ago

Had such a fun day with the sexy fun @erikajayne can't wait to share our secret with you all #shhhhhhhhh

 

Erika Jayne ‏@erikajayne 10h10 hours ago

Secret project

[WireWrap]

Erika Jayne Retweeted

Brandi Glanville ‏@BrandiGlanville 5h5 hours ago

Had such a fun day with the sexy fun @erikajayne can't wait to share our secret with you all #shhhhhhhhh

 

Erika Jayne ‏@erikajayne 10h10 hours ago

Secret project

Now, which snake in the grass will devour the other first? Will Brandi swallow Erika, will Erika devour Brandi or will Yolanda slither up and swallow both of them whole? Because, IMO, it WILL happen! LOL

Edited March 6, 2016 by WireWrap

[zoeysmom]

Now, which snake in the grass will devour the other first? Will Brandi swallow Erika, will Erika devour Brandi or will Yolanda slither up and swallow both of them whole? Because, IMO, it WILL happen! LOL

I think it is something along these lines:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hungover_Games

 

IIRC, Kyle and Camille got the nod and graciously included Brandi.  it was a one day deal with the three ending up having dinner together.  Brandi would later complain that Kyle hurt her during the stunt which consisted of Kyle strangling her.   

[zoeysmom]

Erika LA Times interview:  It is mostly about Erika Jayne.  http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-erika-girardi-interview-20160308-story.html

[JenFromCincy]

I'm new to the forums, but my Area 51/black helicopter/tin foil theory on Erika being so mad at Kathryn is this:  I agree with other posters that she was brought in as an ally to Yo, but I do feel that she does like her.  I also feel like she's been coached by Yo and Brandi about LVP.  I also think that they expressly told her to fawn over and befriend her (hence taking Lisa's jabs laughingly, only to turn around in TH's and be a total B, and also going out with them as a couple.)  I think this was to gain Lisa's trust in order to jump on her later.  Kathryn letting the cat out of the bag early (obviously Erika knew there were cameras so it would get back to her eventually) thwarted those plans.  Once Lisa's guard is up you can't get at her, she's very cautious, but she can be welcoming to new people, as she was with Brandi.  So whatever their (Yo, BG, and EJ's) plan was to expose LVP as the Machiavellian devil they view her as being is now at the very least sidetracked if not completely blown out of the water. Erika was recruiting to further the plan, she just chose wrong with Kathryn.  I fully expect that she saw herself as the potential vindicator of BG and Yo and that she would have her own "Checkmate" moment by the end of the season, patting her own back the whole way about how she so brilliantly set up and took down the great LVP.

 

Again, just a theory.  Way too much time on my hands apparently. ;)

[ElDosEquis]

Erika LA Times interview:  It is mostly about Erika Jayne.  http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-erika-girardi-interview-20160308-story.html

I got up to the line where she puts the 'book she commissioned' on the guy's lap and gave up.

 

When you need to 'show' someone a tome/picture book to explain your life? It means you really don't have a story to tell. I have met and talked to people who will never put out a glossy book with intimate behind-the-scenes photos and stories......

 

It's been done before and you aren't Madonna, so stop while you are ahead. If you have to give interviews as an 'alter-ego' - it means the person underneath really isn't that interesting - it's just a base for some dress-up, make-up game.

[ElDosEquis]

Ericka is one of those people who isn't self aware and so vain that she can't see anything past her nose.

 

I bet if she told her 'friends/makeup/choreographer/dancers' that there was no more money for her shows, they'd be on to some other scam/sham/scheme.

If Daddy Warbucks suddenly told her that the purse strings were getting tighter, would she all of a sudden bail?

 

Life and love is fun when you have money to finance/be financed to do some assholery that passes for 'entertainment', but if you had to really put in the work - as opposed to having it handed to you - where would you be?

 

Would you own your own bus and have gold records - as opposed to 'top 10 disco/gay club hits?, you surely wouldn't have to write your own 'book'?

 

There is talent and then there is the having someone pay for and put up with your hobby, I guess the difference is you pay for a hobby, talent pays for you?

[kokapetl]

Erika went after Kathryn because unlike Lisa Vanderpump, Kathryn is recklessly abrasive, it's easy to find a reason to argue with Kathryn, there's no point in being nice to Kathryn, she's got no financial or entertainment industry influence or connections, and she's even lower in the pecking order than Erika.

[Satchels of gold]

Erika/Tom are a high end Tamra/Simon. You will eat a lot of shit when you can't support yourself and your child. I wish Vicki had been around to tell her to stay in school.

[editorgrrl]

Love this bitch. She calls her Husband 'The Boss'—she totally knows the score. That said, I don't sense cheater in her—that isn't what she's about. It seems like their relationship is built 100% on understanding and respect.

Understanding, perhaps. But respect?! Not after the latest episode. ottergirl said it best:

The Erika and Tom dynamic officially makes me sad. I'm starting to think she had to create Erika Jayne because Erika Girardi is a sad woman. He shushed her AGAIN, and not politely (if such a thing were possible), in front of the entire party. He threw out the entire group obviously well before filming was scheduled to end, leaving Kathryn and Lisa Rinna standing alone in the driveway. The looks on Erika's face as the dinner party disintegrated and she tried to hold it together were so sad. The shot of Tom and Erika walking silently down the corridor, not speaking to each other, after the guests had left—heartbreaking. Even the scene before the party, where she's begging him to come in because everyone was waiting. It's all a sad seeming dynamic. Not a loving relationship, or even a respectful one.

Erika with Kyle the next morning, where she either said (or I got from her face) that she had been in trouble all night long—so sad. This is a sad woman, people, masquerading as a happy one. This is a beaten down woman masquerading as an empowered one. That's what I'm starting to think.

[Umbelina]

I think this episode put the nail in the coffin about her "marriage."  She's a bought and payed for high priced full time hooker, and he IS her "BOSS."  He treats her like shit, on camera, so imagine how he treats her in private.  She blew her well-honed cool when she showed up at the house project looking like she'd cried all night long, or at the very least, not slept much, and actually got into her first fight.

 

There is a reason she refers to her "husband" as her "BOSS." 

 

I hope the private planes and being 'covered in cash' are worth it.  Wife, my ass.  No wife would stand that kind of treatment.  A hooker though, even if she does have a wedding ring?  Will.

 

He's old, and now he has his very own doll, to play with, to treat anyway he want to treat her, and she has...money.

Edited March 9, 2016 by Umbelina

[jinjer]

She's been with him for 15 years - that's a long time to stay with someone just for $. I think their marriage may be more complex than him shushing her; meanwhile that shush came out of nowhere - I think it was edited in from sometime else during the dinner (still not cool).  

 

I think she made him a promise she wouldn't be behaving the way RHWs are portrayed in the media.  And bang, the first event they host in their home is a HW shitfest.

 

Kathryn was out of her mind. She just didn't make sense. It was almost non sequitor-ish.  What was her point half the time? She was just squawking half the time.  She kept interrupting Erika and LVP. I wish someone would have really shushed her.  I do think LVP realized that Kathryn might not have been the most reliable relator of a story after that dinner.

[JenFromCincy]

She's been with him for 15 years - that's a long time to stay with someone just for $. I think their marriage may be more complex than him shushing her; meanwhile that shush came out of nowhere - I think it was edited in from sometime else during the dinner (still not cool).  

 

I think she made him a promise she wouldn't be behaving the way RHWs are portrayed in the media.  And bang, the first event they host in their home is a HW shitfest.

 

Kathryn was out of her mind. She just didn't make sense. It was almost non sequitor-ish.  What was her point half the time? She was just squawking half the time.  She kept interrupting Erika and LVP. I wish someone would have really shushed her.  I do think LVP realized that Kathryn might not have been the most reliable relator of a story after that dinner.

Kathryn' s blog addresses the dinner in her blog. She does cop to going at it the wrong way, but the impression she gave was that the conversation was much longer and not as out of the blue as it seemed after the edit.

[Umbelina]

Yeah, I call bullshit.

 

It's not the first time we've seen him treat her this way.  Hell, her own "pet name" for him says it all.

[Petunia13]

I don't know why people keep stating here and in the episodes threads "she's been married to him for 15 yrs," as if that confirms they aren't unhappy or she isn't with him for money.

It is very common for people to married and be miserable for decades or no longer in love. And very common for people to stay with their spouse for the $ long periods of time if not even until the death of one spouse.

My mother hated her 2nd husband and only divorced him in the 15th yr.

[jinjer]

I think Erika's son in 24/25. I could see if he were younger that she would be hanging around. She is young, and if she were a gold digger, she is aging out of the gold digging years. The clock's ticking on her marketability. I would say, that once her son was in the academy/graduating, she would have been on the prowl for another sugar daddy if she weren't content being with Tom.  This will be 17 years.  

 

$$ can make a lot of shushes tolerable when you have been a struggling single mother.  If the worst thing Tom does is shush her? Really if that's it? What if he is a peach at all other times?  He's a big shot atty who is used to yelling at associates and paralegals all day to do his bidding. He's not perfect and forgets himself sometimes at home, and she accepts that. He's from a different generation too.  (Not saying it's something I would want but maybe Erika gets to see a different side of Tom - like he rescued her and her son from a difficult life etc...).

 

Or he could be a total asshole and she is beleaguered and miserable and hates her life. Her mother was a single mom (according to wikipedia) that was a classically trained pianist. She was a single mother at some point with her son. Tom came along and she grabbed it, and now she can't wait until he dies.

Edited March 10, 2016 by jinjer

[Petunia13]

Waiting for your elderly husband to pass is still sticking with them for the money or out of obligation.

I think it could also be possible they can't afford a divorce since they had some issues with back taxes and maybe credited out the max. Even for a top attorney they live very extravagantly and have for a long time. Who knows how many family members and employees and entourage they support also.

But they don't look or come across as a love match. Maybe she will leave Tom for David LOL. She is his type.

[notnowimbusy]

Last night Erika came off as extremely sad.   She plays at being Erika Jayne, and she plays the role she needs to as a wife.   She is extremely cautious when he's around.   Aside from the guys she pays to pay attention to her, I get the idea that she leads a pretty lonely life.    Doesn't seem like Tom would put up with her "cunty" language around his clients or associates.   When she made the comment about "typical LA BS" it made me think she hasn't been warmly welcomed by people in Tom's circle and it stings her.  He's very aware that she could tarnish his image.    She said before they were couple friends with David & YO, so she's ever had a one on one connection with her, and it seems like she's trying to navigate friendship.   If this gets worse, I wonder if she will do another season, or if The Boss will call an end to it.  

 

Tom came across as liking LisaV - thinking she's a smart business woman (I'm sure he's done his research), but he seemed clearly annoyed with everyone else.   He wants a young trophy wife with an older, conservative demeanor.   And, no matter how many years they have been together, that isn't Erika.   She says Erika Jayne is a fantasy character, but I think that's the real deal - and Mrs. Girardi is the fantasy.

[jinjer]

Last night Erika came off as extremely sad.   She plays at being Erika Jayne, and she plays the role she needs to as a wife.   She is extremely cautious when he's around.   Aside from the guys she pays to pay attention to her, I get the idea that she leads a pretty lonely life.    Doesn't seem like Tom would put up with her "cunty" language around his clients or associates.   When she made the comment about "typical LA BS" it made me think she hasn't been warmly welcomed by people in Tom's circle and it stings her.  He's very aware that she could tarnish his image.    She said before they were couple friends with David & YO, so she's ever had a one on one connection with her, and it seems like she's trying to navigate friendship.   If this gets worse, I wonder if she will do another season, or if The Boss will call an end to it.  

 

Tom came across as liking LisaV - thinking she's a smart business woman (I'm sure he's done his research), but he seemed clearly annoyed with everyone else.   He wants a young trophy wife with an older, conservative demeanor.   And, no matter how many years they have been together, that isn't Erika.   She says Erika Jayne is a fantasy character, but I think that's the real deal - and Mrs. Girardi is the fantasy.

I have a feeling you're right that Tom isn't going to allow a season 2 of Erika.  I think he liked LVP too because she was sensible and closer to his generation.  Kathryn? No way.  Rinna at least wasn't rude but she came looking like...well not LVP.  They lacked elegance.  Erika plays it off like a sex kitten wife. That was the most uncovered I have seen her when she isn't performing except for daytime in the Hamptons.

[Found A Peanut]

Erika said they were "couple" friends with YO & David. Well, maybe she can strike up a new friendship with Jerry Hall & Rupert Murdoch - she's 59, he's 89. I'm sure they would have a lot in common.

Oh, I think not a thing in common. Jerry has her own money, her own circle, decades long friendships with other women, grown children, and a history of dating intellectually interesting men - not just Mick. She and Rupert look absolutely giddy in some of their wedding pictures, too. I think they're the real deal.

I do think couples like Jerry and Rupert give a sort of cover to couples like Erika and Tom. Like, you can see it's possible that other May-December, trophy-looking arrangements are happy couplings and you want to be fair because, hey, maybe this works for them. I'm now on the train that thinks Erika is in a sad situation, though.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Found A Peanut

[zoeysmom]

The impression I get from Tom, is he use to conversation where he controls it and others don't interrupt him. I doubt he yells at staff and I doubt staff interrupts him.   He has been in the law game along time probably over 50 years and talking over isn't allowed and is always counterproductive.  I noticed he was trying to take Erika's unfortunate comments and spin them and no one was biting.  If he use to jury trials, it is not as if the jury can speak to him will he is yammering or tell him that his idea is all wet.

 

What I found odd is that Erika made it seem as if it were suppose to be some huge honor to meet Tom instead of meeting the spouse of a contemporary.  Yolanda acts the same way.  Most of the time the guys can roll with the punches.  There have been a couple of times the men have spoken up and results are mixed.  Just because Erika considers him the end all doesn't mean the other women give a rip about meeting an attorney.  Given LVP and Ken's recent record in litigation the last thing they probably want to engage with is a plaintiff's attorney. 

[Found A Peanut]

The impression I get from Tom, is he use to conversation where he controls it and others don't interrupt him. I doubt he yells at staff and I doubt staff interrupts him.   He has been in the law game along time probably over 50 years and talking over isn't allowed and is always counterproductive.  I noticed he was trying to take Erika's unfortunate comments and spin them and no one was biting.  If he use to jury trials, it is not as if the jury can speak to him will he is yammering or tell him that his idea is all wet.

 

What I found odd is that Erika made it seem as if it were suppose to be some huge honor to meet Tom instead of meeting the spouse of a contemporary.  Yolanda acts the same way.  Most of the time the guys can roll with the punches.  There have been a couple of times the men have spoken up and results are mixed.  Just because Erika considers him the end all doesn't mean the other women give a rip about meeting an attorney.  Given LVP and Ken's recent krecord in litigation the last thing they probably want to engage with is a plaintiff's attorney.

So, he treats Erika like staff. And she calls him "Boss". That is not great for her.

It's unlikely to happen, but I'd like to see how Tom treats his grown children. If the boss behavior is a family wide phenomenon, maybe it would seem less wounding. Still obnoxious, though.

[Satchels of gold]

Apparently Tom screened a video of Erika in 2011 at some bar association event and it was scandalous ( clutches pearls and collapses on fainting couch)

http://www.metnews.com/articles/2011/perspectives122011.htm

[Found A Peanut]

Apparently Tom screened a video of Erika in 2011 at some bar association event and it was scandalous ( clutches pearls and collapses on fainting couch)

http://www.metnews.com/articles/2011/perspectives122011.htm

Good find! And some choice pearl clutching at the link:

Even Tom Girardi should have known better than to display a raunchy video at a meeting at which members of the state’s highest court were present.

Of course, good judgment would have precluded showing it at any bar meeting.

Or, for that matter, anywhere.

Some members will treasure the past year as the group’s “Camelot,” during which a benefactor treated members to largely subsided meals at swank places and to free concerts. The more discerning will recall this year as one in which the group, formed in 1977, temporarily went out of existence.

Deputy Attorney General Steve Mesi will be sworn in as president on Jan. 28 at the San Antonio Winery, and the Italian American Lawyers Assn. will spring back into being. Normalcy, it is anticipated, will be restored.

"Even Tom Girardi..." snerk!

At least he's proud of her?

Edited March 10, 2016 by Found A Peanut

[Giselle]

Erica reminds me of an ancient U list local Los Angeles "celebrity" Angelyne. I've seen her in her pink ride on the freeway and on billboards back when I was a kid (didn't know who she was then).  She released a couple albums, sang in clubs, was on TV here and there and she ran for governor of the state with Arnold in 2003.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelyne

 

 

 

 

 

Now:

 

 

Erica this is your future.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Giselle