S06.E02: Tuscany!

[ryebread]

Ryebread, I have to believe that there was nothing untoward in Mauricio's split from Hilton/Hyland, or else I have no doubt there would have been some type of legal action against him.

 

All in all, if the rumors are true and the Rick and Kathy's issue with the Umanskys is a business relationship gone sour, that is really pretty petty of them.  I am sure that the core of the Hilton's wealth is from Hilton Hotel money, and not from real estate dealings.  

 

I don't think Kyle is perfect, she acted horribly in the beginning towards Brandy (although maybe she had a point, now that I look back), but she seems to be a really good friend.  She's stuck by Taylor, Faye Resnick, and probably others who aren't very popular.  

 

Legal action isn't always necessary.  Sometimes business people just keep breaking each others balls because lawsuits cost both parties time and money.  I'm not saying Mo did anything illegal.  Just maybe both men were ungentlemanly.  Not just Rick.

 

How do you know that the core of Hilton's money is hotel money?  I've heard the opposite. Bottom line is none of them deserve the wealth they have. They should give it all to me.  

 

As far as Kyle sticking by her friends, Faye, Taylor, Kris Jenner and other morally corrupts, I look at that as:  birds of a feather stickin' together.  But she also stuck by her sister, Kim, who is the biggest mess that ever graced my reality TV screen.  Maybe Kyle really is a saint.  Maybe that's why she often wears white. 

 

I'm not really sure whether she did anything to get uninvited to the wedding, but it doesn't really matter to me.  Anything that happened between her and Kathy or Mauricio and Rick should have been put aside for the wedding.  As many have said here before, she's not the one in the wrong here.  She was put in this position by Nicky, or Kathy, or whoever was in charge of the invites.  Kyle was in a bad position, and made her choice to go to the wedding.  I can't judge her for that, and I don't know what I would do in the same position.

 

But Kyle's the only reason why we know any of this in the first place.  Let's say Kathy un-invited her.  So Kyle's response is to air this bit of laundry on TV.  They're now playing tit for tat.  Kyle is every bit as guilty as Kathy.  Even if, Kathy started it first.   But we'll never know who started it first.  I just see 2 grown women acting like asses and not doing their families any favors. 

[Wings]

OT but no word from mods or admin as to the problem today.  Duplicate posts and no access to notifications.  I assume they are working on it but assuming is never a good idea. 

 

I am sure that the core of the Hilton's wealth is from Hilton Hotel money, and not from real estate dealings.

 

 

This is one of many sites.  His personal wealth (300 mil) is gained from his real estate business.  The family's wealth is in the billions and there is no mention, that I can find, just how much access he or anyone else has to that pile of green.  Apparently Kathy has made millions on her clothing line of gowns and skin products on OVC.  Yes, I said clothing line.

 

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/property/richard-hilton-net-worth/

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304250204579433361983265446

 

It is almost like Rick has to broadcast that he is a self made man in real estate.  I am not buying that.  I would like to know how much seed money he had to start it.  That didn't come from QVC!  

Edited December 14, 2015 by wings707

[izabella]

Yeah, who gave Rick his "cushy" start?

 

There's no one like rich people to begrudge others their success.  SMH. 

 

(Yes, I'm having problems posting today, too.  I can only post if I hit reply twice, and then I have to edit the post to get rid of the double post.  Plus, I can't access Notifications.  I'm hoping they're working on it...)

Edited December 14, 2015 by izabella

[JennyMominFL]

The average high temp is 86-so it would make sense they didn't retrofit centuries old villas with central air.  I think you are right-heat wave. 

 

 

How old did the villa look?  I don't remember. If it's old, they may not be able to add air, by law. We just  stayed in a  Chateau, Chateaux DI Gizeux, in the Loire Valley in France. Since it only has 5 guest rooms and we were the only guest, we got to chat with the owner a lot.  They have been restoring parts of the chateau. They are really really restricted on what they can do. They cannot in any way cut into the walls to add wires, tubing o anything. To add electricity, they actually ran the lines through old fireplaces. It was the only option.  There is no actual heat. There are fireplaces and space heaters to keep things warm. There is no way they could add central air.     I don't know how old the villa was, but that may be the case. Or it may just be that  the weather is not hot often enough to make it worthwhile

[WireWrap]

Kyle has been my favorite HW from day one and I've defended her on boards from the Kyle is vile factions. That said, I have always thought of her as flawed. She's annoying, has a silly sense of humor, can be immature, petty and mean. But she's a great mom, can be a good and loyal friend and has an interesting life. It's nice to not have to defend her as much now, but I don't think she's great. Just not nasty like Kathy or screwed up like Kim.

 

 

So now Kim and Brandi are the bastions of truth??  Is this the world we live in? ;-)

 

Zoeysmom:  I see you got a double post, there, too.  And wings and WireWrap, do you see how some of your quote boxes are empty in your posts?  I'll contact the mods if you guys can confirm you're seeing what I'm seeing.

Ok, now the "quotes" are messed up for me, there is no space between them. LOL

 

I didn't like Kyle for a long time, it took me taking a long hard look at what Kim was doing to her to make me look at Kyle differently. I still don't like the person Kyle becomes when she teams up with Kim, Kim brings out the worst, most petty behavior in Kyle IMO.

 

The only way Brandi or even Kim would know any of that information is if they heard it from Kathy/Rick and I do think Kathy has talked about this in front of Brandi as well as Kim sharing private info with her.

 

The board seems to be acting up for all of us today. LOL

[jaync]

http://cameroncolumn...snicks.html?m=1

 

Faye, who has found herself in the press on more than one occasion, is one of the kindest, most loyal, loving friends one could ever know.

 

 

[Me Too]

Question:  Do we actually know that Rick hired his brother-in-law Mauricio?  The reason I ask is because I was always under the impression from talking heads (or reunion questions from the first season) that Mauricio was already working for Hilton and Hyland when he met Kyle and thus Mauricio married the bosses sister-in law.

 

As I said, this is from the first season which I haven't seen in years.  Plus, I it just might be possible that I misunderstood.  Somehow or another that can happen to me.  LOL.

[sistermagpie]

I don't think Kyle was dis-invited either.  There was a heated argument and Kyle, feeling hurt and angry, decided to interpret Kathy's words that way (knowing it was not entirely true).  I can almost hear Kathy saying, well don't come, then!   That is my guess.

 

 

Kyle didn't actually even say she was uninvited. She said she was told by someone it would be "better if she wasn't there." So the thing's always been presented as passive-aggressive on all sides. Kathy's "side" put it on Kyle that she should dis-invite herself, Kyle fired back by doing just that--and making sure everyone knew it. Then she had to be re-invited again to turn the tables a third time.

 

There does still seem to be stuff going on with Mauricio not going, but I suspect this kind of back and forth between the sisters just this way is probably pretty standard. For instance, with Kathy going with the big sister "It would be better for everyone if you..." and Kyle saying "I always do what's better for everyone..."

[Gam2]

JennyMominFL- am I correct that Kyle asked the house manager if there was airconditioning and he said only in the bedrooms? I don't remember them showing us any of the bedrooms so have no idea how that was accomplished. But at least, they'd be able to sleep comfortably at night. Just curious.

[notnowimbusy]

Mauricio's father also worked for Rick.   Obviously he left when Mauricio did.   I can see Rick and Kathy thinking it's completely ungrateful for Mauricio to leave.  How dare he.   I also think they are upset at how successful and popular he is.   Rick is definitely more old school and probably didn't want to go into new technology, new ways of doing business, etc.   I do like that M has a No A##hole policy at his company.   

[WireWrap]

Question:  Do we actually know that Rick hired his brother-in-law Mauricio?  The reason I ask is because I was always under the impression from talking heads (or reunion questions from the first season) that Mauricio was already working for Hilton and Hyland when he met Kyle and thus Mauricio married the bosses sister-in law.

 

As I said, this is from the first season which I haven't seen in years.  Plus, I it just might be possible that I misunderstood.  Somehow or another that can happen to me.  LOL.

You are rght, Mauricio did work for Rick BEFORE he met Kyle.

[ryebread]

You are rght, Mauricio did work for Rick BEFORE he met Kyle.

 

So Rick and Kathy gave him his start AND introduced him to the love of his life, mother of his children and this is the thanks they get?  UNGRATEFUL BASTARD!

 

LOLOL. 

 

Business and family rarely mix well.

[JennyMominFL]

JennyMominFL- am I correct that Kyle asked the house manager if there was airconditioning and he said only in the bedrooms? I don't remember them showing us any of the bedrooms so have no idea how that was accomplished. But at least, they'd be able to sleep comfortably at night. Just curious.

I'm guessing portable window A/C's

[zoeysmom]

Question:  Do we actually know that Rick hired his brother-in-law Mauricio?  The reason I ask is because I was always under the impression from talking heads (or reunion questions from the first season) that Mauricio was already working for Hilton and Hyland when he met Kyle and thus Mauricio married the bosses sister-in law.

 

As I said, this is from the first season which I haven't seen in years.  Plus, I it just might be possible that I misunderstood.  Somehow or another that can happen to me.  LOL.

Mauricio went to work for Hilton & Hyland when he was 27 years old having just sold his apparel manufacturing company. His first year with Hilton Hyland he sold $200 million becoming their biggest sales agent and remained at the top of the list until his departure in 2011.  His first sale was Farrah father's (Kyle's first husband;s) 7.5 million dollar home.  They continue to do business together.  He and Kyle were married before he went to work at Rick's agency.  He seems to have proven himself over the years.  He was 40 when he started The Agency.  Most real estate agents don't walk into an agency with a $7.5 million dollar listing  (about a $12 million dollar sale today).  So I think perhaps Rick may be being a little condescending saying he gave Mauricio a hand out.

 

Regarding the Hilton fortune, Conrad Hilton left almost all of his fortune to his charitable foundation.  Barron disputed the will and snagged splitting it with the charity's hands.  Barron Hilton's fortune will be left to charity with the exception of  3%.  http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-hilton-charity-idUKN2636653220071226  Granted there is a lot of money and a lot of relatives to share in it.

[zoeysmom]

You are rght, Mauricio did work for Rick BEFORE he met Kyle.

It was after.  Kyle and Mauricio married in 1996.  Alexia was born in June of 1996.    Mauricio (unlike the Wikipedia reference which claims he was born in 1976) was born in 1970.  Making him 26 years old when Alexia was born.  According to the Worth Q & A he sold his company at age 26.  he and Kyle dated for two years.  So Mauricio definitely went to work for Rick after meeting and most likely marrying Kyle. Kyle also worked selling real estate at Hilton & Hyland.

[Cosmocrush]

Considerate, sure, but should he also give up his own ambition and career - for the foreseeable future - because Rick hired him?  It's such a rich people thing; to think you own the "less thans."  Tell me there's not some classism (and even, possibly, racism) in there (not from you, but from the Hiltons):  the poor Mexican Mauricio should have been grateful to have a job at all and take what he was given without complaint.  How dare he show ambition, and how dare he start his own company

Mauricio isn't Mexican, he is Greek and Russian.   He was born in Mexico City because his parents were living there (father born in Mexico City to Russian immigrants.)  They moved to the L.A. area when he was small - his father was a major cotton/textile importer or something and according to The Agency website* is one of the co-founders of Mauricio's RE agency.     His mother has been on the show mulitple times but I don't remember his Dad.  I'm assuming they are divorced. 

 

I'm kind of embarrassed that I know this stuff , but I think Kyle either talked about it on WWHL or in a blog or something once.

 

*if you want to see some amazing houses, there is plenty of RE porn on that site.  

 

Kyle didn't actually even say she was uninvited. She said she was told by someone it would be "better if she wasn't there." So the thing's always been presented as passive-aggressive on all sides. Kathy's "side" put it on Kyle that she should dis-invite herself, Kyle fired back by doing just that--and making sure everyone knew it. Then she had to be re-invited again to turn the tables a third time.

Oh yeah, I remember that now too!  Passive-aggressive is the only way these people operate, except for Kim who is generally just one or the other.  

Edited December 14, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[izabella]

Regarding the Hilton fortune, Conrad Hilton left almost all of his fortune to his charitable foundation.  Barron disputed the will and snagged splitting it with the charity's hands.  Barron Hilton's fortune will be left to charity with the exception of  3%.  http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-hilton-charity-idUKN2636653220071226  Granted there is a lot of money and a lot of relatives to share in it.

 

THAT is an interesting article!  So the Hiltons no longer own the Hilton Hotel chain, nor any stake in Harrah's casinos anymore either. 

 

Ha, ha, that's why Rick is so damned mad at Mauricio - he really does need Hilton & Hyland to be successful because they aren't going to be getting so many millions after that 3% of Barron's  fortune is split umpteen ways.  $690 million (what remains after the 97% of the $2.3B total is donated to charity) doesn't go so far when it has to be split among all those heirs. 

 

Good thing Nicky married into money, because Paris and her brothers are just spending it like water and there is a limit to Rick's fortune and future inheritance prospects.

[talula]

So Rick and Kathy gave him his start AND introduced him to the love of his life, mother of his children and this is the thanks they get?  UNGRATEFUL BASTARD!

 

LOLOL. 

 

Business and family rarely mix well.

Ryebread what would we do without you!

[Wings]

THAT is an interesting article!  So the Hiltons no longer own the Hilton Hotel chain, nor any stake in Harrah's casinos anymore either. 

 

Ha, ha, that's why Rick is so damned mad at Mauricio - he really does need Hilton & Hyland to be successful because they aren't going to be getting so many millions after that 3% of Barron's  fortune is split umpteen ways.  $690 million (what remains after the 97% of the $2.3B total is donated to charity) doesn't go so far when it has to be split among all those heirs. 

 

Good thing Nicky married into money, because Paris and her brothers are just spending it like water and there is a limit to Rick's fortune and future inheritance prospects.

 

 

Paris has a wealthy boyfriend now and seems to be headed to marriage, she will be fine.  Everyone will be fine, including Rick.  Mauricio is not taking his business away from him or taking him down!  He moved off on his own.  These things happen.  H&H will survive and the Hiltons will survive to live another day in luxury!   

 

This comes as no surprise to any of Barron's heirs.  I am sure everyone was well aware that they would not inherit a split of the billions.  Warren Buffet did the same thing.  They will all get plenty.  Branson is not willing all his money to his kids either.  

[SCS]

 

I didn't like Kyle for a long time, it took me taking a long hard look at what Kim was doing to her to make me look at Kyle differently. I still don't like the person Kyle becomes when she teams up with Kim, Kim brings out the worst, most petty behavior in Kyle IMO.

 

Heh, I see it as Kim brings out the real Kyle -- the one Kyle strives to suppress (with moderate success), LOL.

[WireWrap]

It was after.  Kyle and Mauricio married in 1996.  Alexia was born in June of 1996.    Mauricio (unlike the Wikipedia reference which claims he was born in 1976) was born in 1970.  Making him 26 years old when Alexia was born.  According to the Worth Q & A he sold his company at age 26.  he and Kyle dated for two years.  So Mauricio definitely went to work for Rick after meeting and most likely marrying Kyle. Kyle also worked selling real estate at Hilton & Hyland.

Kyle said on the show and on WWHL, that she was engaged to another when she met Mauricio and that he worked for her BIL at the time. Maybe she was loose with her timeline because she also said that Mauricio did not know she was engaged to another when they started dating but she did say that he worked for Rick when they met.

Heh, I see it as Kim brings out the real Kyle -- the one Kyle strives to suppress (with moderate success), LOL.

LOL, that is always possible and that is why I hope to see WHO she is without Kim in the picture. If that nasty side comes out as much as it did with Kim at her side, then she is as bad as Kim, if not, then Kim is just a bad influence on her.

[izabella]

Paris has a wealthy boyfriend now and seems to be headed to marriage, she will be fine.  Everyone will be fine, including Rick.  Mauricio is not taking his business away from him or taking him down!  He moved off on his own.  These things happen.  H&H will survive and the Hiltons will survive to live another day in luxury!   

 

This comes as no surprise to any of Barron's heirs.  I am sure everyone was well aware that they would not inherit a split of the billions.  Warren Buffet did the same thing.  They will all get plenty.  Branson is not willing all his money to his kids either.  

 

 

You are 100% right, and I 100% agree with you, but with this family, i can see Rick and Kathy believing Mauricio is 100% taking food out of the mouths of their poor Hilton children.

 

Plus, there's the whole competitive aspect.  Without billions in Hilton inheritance, It's possible Mauricio can surpass Rick's wealth someday.  We can't have that now, can we?   Just like Kim crowed about being the first of the sisters to have a daughter get married, Kathy, I'm sure, is quite satisfied being on top in the income and wealth scale, or should I say self-satisfied.

Edited December 14, 2015 by izabella

[SCS]

Kyle said on the show and on WWHL, that she was engaged to another when she met Mauricio and that he worked for her BIL at the time. Maybe she was loose with her timeline because she also said that Mauricio did not know she was engaged to another when they started dating but she did say that he worked for Rick when they met.

Heh, back in one of the early seasons a discussion among the wives+hubs came up re pre-nups. Kyle said something to the effect of she and Maurice didn't have one and they lived in his van for a time post-wedding. That doesn't sound very luxe. Maybe he really needed those commissions.

[SCS]

Mauricio isn't Mexican, he is Greek and Russian. He was born in Mexico City because his parents were living there (father born in Mexico City to Russian immigrants.) They moved to the L.A. area when he was small ... {snip for space}

Thank you for posting this. Upthread it was suggested there may have been an anti-Semetic element to Maurice and the girls getting disinvited and now an anti-Mexican slant is being suggested. The Hiltons and their spawn are horrendously gross but, unless there's proof Rick, Kathy et al demonstrate those biases, it seems a slippery slope.

IMO, of course.

Edited December 14, 2015 by steelcitysister

[Souvlaki]

I want to tell you guys a story about heavy metals. I used to blog and because I have an autistic child I was often approached to advertise various products that were supposed to cure autism on my blog. I never took any of them on because I don't believe in any of that nonsense. One time I was sent a pitch from a company that said it could diagnose heavy metal poisoning through a hair sample you sent in and then they would sell you the right treatments for whatever you happened to be poisoned with. Several of my blogger friends got the same offer so a bunch of us took them up on their free offer but not a single one of us sent in a hair sample from our autistic children. We all sent in hair from neurotypical (as far as we knew) people and one lady sent in hair from her dog. Lo and behold, we all got our results back and, what do you know, according to the results we ALL had heavy metal poisoning. Even the dog had heavy metals in it's blood and that totally explained why we were all autistic ... even though none of us were. Of course our results came with an offer for great deal on all the medicines we needed to buy. The thing that struck me about Yolanda pulling out her binder at the dentist's office and showing her heavy metal contamination is that it looked a LOT like the same results I got for my totally real and not a scam* heavy metal test.

What I'm trying to say is that if Yolanda is getting this new diagnosis of heavy metal poisoning from the same kind of scam that I got mine (and I really strongly suspect that she is) then she's being taken a for a fool and having her teeth pulled out for nothing. I would have a lot more sympathy for her being scammed if it didn't seem like she was getting some kind of a kick out of it. I mean, Lyme isn't enough? Now she has to have heavy metal poisoning and a two foot long parasite and god knows what else? Not to mention that treatment for heavy metal poisoning can make a person really sick. I have heard horror stories of children dying because their parents were trying to treat the autism out of them. I realize Yolanda isn't an autistic child but she's subjecting her body to abuse with that closet of "medication".

*sarcasm

edited to add: This will be my only post about Yolanda and heavy metals otherwise I will get all ranty so no one needs to worry about me beating a dead horse with a lead pipe. :)

I think you hit on some big truths about how much these quacks profit off of a person's fears, and it's disgusting.

I would simply have sympathy for Yolanda for what she's dealing with; the fact that she seems to choose to play it up, and she's talking about parasites, and just generally seems so fragile in her psyche makes me feel a lot of pity for her. Right now I'm not really getting any ideas that she's lying about how terrible she feels, she's cried many times and it's only episode 2! I just think that it's think more than that, that she's in a very dark place with her depression over her failed marriage, and it's a complicated host of things that she's letting eat away at her. Depression and stress alone can cause a good amount of psychosomatic illness, as Kyle had discussed with Lisa. I don't think it's a coincidence that things got worse as her marriage deteriorated, and I always saw a sort of dependent nature on her 'king'. I wonder if it's easier for her to distract herself from facing that huge loss, and instead, focus on something that she feels more in 'control' of right now, like investigating her health. She just seems so defeated and scared, and I hope that she recognizes that working on her mental state with a credited professional, such as getting therapy, will benefit her children and her state of mind getting better is really necessary (imo) at this point for feeling better physically; that milking sympathies reveals a lot of insecurity to me, and it's just... very sad.

* I had a relative that went through such a similar situation, so I may be projecting at this point, but I know what fear and insecurity can do, how powerful it can be. I feel very sorry for Yo. This is a perfect example of money and happiness not being mutually inclusive. In fact, all the money she has to throw around trying one thing after another seems like it's done more harm than good at this point.

Side note on Ken and the mumu comments and Yolanda looking unwell - I feel like he's trying to be cute and it ain't working for me, he's quite the judge of the women's looks so far this season. Hunty, maybe do something about that hairchild of Rod Stewart and a bag of cotton balls that you have on your head before you throw shade. The irony is thick.

[Wings]

You are 100% right, and I 100% agree with you, but with this family, i can see Rick and Kathy believing Mauricio is 100% taking food out of the mouths of their poor Hilton children.

 

Plus, there's the whole competitive aspect.  Without billions in Hilton inheritance, It's possible Mauricio can surpass Rick's wealth someday.  We can't have that now, can we?   Just like Kim crowed about being the first of the sisters to have a daughter get married, Kathy, I'm sure, is quite satisfied being on top in the income and wealth scale, or should I say self-satisfied.

 

 

LOL!  It is all so silly.   I would love to see Mauricio make enough to rival Ricks portfolio.   There is room for everyone to have millions!  H&H is huge, google it.  I have never seen a firm with so many agents!   

 

Mauricio has a big one too, its name is The Agency.  That smacks of an evil, controlling overlord and his minions, in a Sci Fi  movie.  

[zoeysmom]

For a very long time I thought Kyle and Mauricio met while working at Hilton & Hyland.  Then she mentioned she met him at a club and turned her engagement ring around when she met him.  That led me to believe she picked him in a bar.  Just kidding. 

Thank you for posting this. Upthread it was suggested there may have been an anti-Semetic element to Maurice and the girls getting disinvited and now an anti-Mexican slant is being suggested. The Hiltons and their spawn are horrendously gross but, unless there's proof Rick, Kathy et al demonstrate those biases, it seems a slippery slope.

IMO, of course.

No we only have evidence of Kim.  Kim who stated Mauricio is Mexican and he and Kyle speak Mexican.  Apparently she has not learned the language of Mexico is Spanish. 

[snowblossom2]

For a very long time I thought Kyle and Mauricio met while working at Hilton & Hyland.  Then she mentioned she met him at a club and turned her engagement ring around when she met him.  That led me to believe she picked him in a bar.  Just kidding. 

No we only have evidence of Kim.  Kim who stated Mauricio is Mexican and he and Kyle speak Mexican.  Apparently she has not learned the language of Mexico is Spanish.

Since he was born in Mexico, he may likely be Mexican of Russian and Greek descent.

[st.louielouie]

 

Just like Kim crowed about being the first of the sisters to have a daughter get married, Kathy, I'm sure, is quite satisfied being on top in the income and wealth scale, or should I say self-satisfied.

 

You know, I was like -hmmm, when Kim said that because Nicky has been married before. I thought Paris was but she just may have been engaged a few times.  Anyway, it seems like the "Richards" sisters rewrite history to their liking....

[SCS]

No we only have evidence of Kim.  Kim who stated Mauricio is Mexican and he and Kyle speak Mexican.  Apparently she has not learned the language of Mexico is Spanish.

Ah, but what, if anything, does Kim's inability to express herself coherently have to do with the suggestions made upthread that Maurice and Daughters were deliberately disinvited to the nuptials for reasons anti-Semetic or anti-Mexican?

[ryebread]

THAT is an interesting article!  So the Hiltons no longer own the Hilton Hotel chain, nor any stake in Harrah's casinos anymore either. 

 

Ha, ha, that's why Rick is so damned mad at Mauricio - he really does need Hilton & Hyland to be successful because they aren't going to be getting so many millions after that 3% of Barron's  fortune is split umpteen ways.  $690 million (what remains after the 97% of the $2.3B total is donated to charity) doesn't go so far when it has to be split among all those heirs. 

 

Good thing Nicky married into money, because Paris and her brothers are just spending it like water and there is a limit to Rick's fortune and future inheritance prospects.

 

Paris is raking in her own money.  Don't ask me how but she is.  Life isn't fair.

 

Heh, I see it as Kim brings out the real Kyle -- the one Kyle strives to suppress (with moderate success), LOL.

 

There's always two sides to every coin.  I see her the same way.

[NewDigs]

Bolding mine

For a very long time I thought Kyle and Mauricio met while working at Hilton & Hyland.  Then she mentioned she met him at a club and turned her engagement ring around when she met him.That led me to believe she picked him in a bar.  Just kidding. 

No we only have evidence of Kim.  Kim who stated Mauricio is Mexican and he and Kyle speak Mexican. Apparently she has not learned the language of Mexico is Spanish.

But but doesn't turning an engagement ring around turn it into a wedding ring?

I'm not sure what that says about either of them.

[druzy]

Oh, I doubt that very much.  It's pretty clear that they are quite wealthy.  And also Bravo likely paid for at least some of that trip since it was filmed.  Kyle & Mauricio never give me the impression that they're trying to impress us with their wealth.    I think they could live in a much more grand house than they do.  They live well, I'm sure, but I'm willing to bet they don't spend everything they have, and likely have lots of money put away in investments, etc.

 

 

I kind of thought so too.  I'm not sure, but it did cross my mind as a possibility.  I kind of hope that they were.  Otherwise, it's distasteful that the conversation went on with them sitting there.  If the idea was to let the Hiltons (and everyone else) know that the Umansky girls were hurt, then I approve!  The Hiltons should be made aware that their ridiculous, selfish attitude has an impact on young family members who absolutely did nothing wrong.  Shame on them for being so petty and causing further problems and rifts in a family that has had more than enough already.  It's disgraceful that they're causing this nonsense to trickle down to the younger generation.

 

 

I don't see anything "thieving" about Mauricio.  He didn't sign his life over to Rick Hilton.  And I don't see how the job was cushy.  A break, yes, but Mauricio worked hard, took the ball, ran with it, and became extremely successful.  He wasn't relaxing in a lavish office and having a paycheck handed to him.  He had every reason to expect that his efforts would be rewarded and appreciated, and when they were not, he left.  There's not one reason why he shouldn't have done that.  Groveling at the feet of Rick Hilton for the rest of his life was never part of the arrangement, I'm sure, and Rick's belief that he could hold Mauricio hostage is misguided, to say the least.  He was in a position to toss Mauricio out at any time, and I'm sure Mauricio knew that.  So Mauricio was smart to advance his own career in a way that would provide a more solid financial future for his family.

 

If clients followed him to The Agency, then that's further testament to how good he is.  He didn't kidnap these people and force them to use his services.  It was their choice, and it's very common.  If Rick hired Mauricio for any good-will-toward-family reasons, then he should be happy for his success.  But from what we know of the Hiltons, that's not how they roll.  No good will toward family and no happiness for anyone else's success.  Just jealousy.  Lots of it.

I've been trying to like this post but it will not allow me to like it?

[GreatKazu]

I think Rick gave Maurice-o a cushy job as a favour to his sister in law Kyle, and Maurice-o could reasonably be expected to be considerate of his sister in law Kathy.

I know this is just your opinion and not fact about the favor of the job since there is nothing to back that up so, I will move on to the "cushy" part of your comment. There is certainly nothing "cushy" about real estate, especially in the area where Mauricio and the Hiltons specialize in. Mauricio obviously has a skill for this kind of work, and Rick saw this skill. Who is to say that Mauricio wasn't doing Rick a favor by working for him instead of some other company that wanted to hire Mauricio? Maybe Mauricio was working for another real estate firm before the Hiltons. Rick has a business-sense, I would assume, and decided to pull Mauricio in in order to keep the prize for himself and his company.

 

Besides, Mauricio already worked for H&H before he met Kyle. To quote Allison Dubois, "Know that." lol  Mauricio WASN'T family to Rick at that point.

 

And, how long is one expected to stay with one company? Forever? Excuse me but, if they are family, as you have insisted Rick is to Mauricio, family should be happy to see other family members thrive and be successful and pat them on the back for rising up to be one of the best real estate agents in California, not shun him from family events. Talk about emotional blackmail. That's like keeping someone hostage. You mention consideration. Where is the consideration from the HIltons to Kyle? I don't know about you but, that shit is toxic and I'd be happy to be rid of that kind of "family". Seeing that Kathy prefers the company of Brandi Glanville who has gone around on her social media being the mouth-piece of Kathy, I would be happy to tell the Hiltons "good riddance". 

Edited December 15, 2015 by GreatKazu

[breezy424]

According to Kyle, she and Mauricio met at a bar called Bar One in LA.  She says nothing about him working for Rick at this time.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/season-8/videos/after-show-the-story-of-kyle-and-mauricio

[kokapetl]

I know this is just your opinion and not fact about the favor of the job since there is nothing to back that up so, I will move on to the "cushy" part of your comment. There is certainly nothing "cushy" about real estate, especially in the area where Mauricio and the Hiltons specialize in. Mauricio obviously has a skill for this kind of work, and Rick saw this skill. Who is to say that Mauricio wasn't doing Rick a favor by working for him instead of some other company that wanted to hire Mauricio? Maybe Mauricio was working for another real estate firm before the Hiltons. Rick has a business-sense, I would assume, and decided to pull Mauricio in in order to keep the prize for himself and his company.

Besides, Mauricio already worked for H&H before he met Kyle. To quote Allison Dubois, "Know that." lol Mauricio WASN'T family to Rick at that point.

And, how long is one expected to stay with one company? Forever? Excuse me but, if they are family, as you have insisted Rick is to Mauricio, family should be happy to see other family members thrive and be successful and pat them on the back for rising up to be one of the best real estate agents in California, not shun him from family events. Talk about emotional blackmail. That's like keeping someone hostage. You mention consideration. Where is the consideration from the HIltons to Kyle? I don't know about you but, that shit is toxic and I'd be happy to be rid of that kind of "family". Seeing that Kathy prefers the company of Brandi Glanville who has gone around on her social media being the mouth-piece of Kathy, I would be happy to tell the Hiltons "good riddance".

Here an interview with Mauricio about his career. He says his first sale was his wife's ex husbands house, and it happened after he was 26. The year of his birth is unknown, so I don't know when he turned 26. He married Kyle in 1996, they apparently met in 1994, and his real estate license was issued in 1997. His job was cushy because his wife's family gave him connections. He says in his interview that his secret is connections.

[GreatKazu]

I stand corrected. I don't read every single article linked here, if those links were even  posted before. Going by what Kyle once said on at least one occasion, she met Mauricio while he was working for her brother-in-law.

 

The rest of my post still stands.

[kokapetl]

Mauricio is certainly not obliged to stay with the person who gave him the opportunity start his career at the very top, but he is now competing with Rick Hilton. It may or may not be fair, but hurt feelings aren't particularly unreasonable.

[zoeysmom]

Ah, but what, if anything, does Kim's inability to express herself coherently have to do with the suggestions made upthread that Maurice and Daughters were deliberately disinvited to the nuptials for reasons anti-Semetic or anti-Mexican?

Not my post.  You seem to keep bringing it up.

Here an interview with Mauricio about his career. He says his first sale was his wife's ex husbands house, and it happened after he was 26. The year of his birth is unknown, so I don't know when he turned 26. He married Kyle in 1996, they apparently met in 1994, and his real estate license was issued in 1997. His job was cushy because his wife's family gave him connections. He says in his interview that his secret is connections.

Mauricio was born in 1970.  They will be married 20 years in January of 2016-before he got his real estate license.

[GreatKazu]

Mauricio is certainly not obliged to stay with the person who gave him the opportunity start his career at the very top, but he is now competing with Rick Hilton. It may or may not be fair, but hurt feelings aren't particularly unreasonable.

As Kurtis Blow once rapped, these are the breaks.

 

Where is it noted the Hiltons have hurt feelings over Mauricio leaving the firm? Again, I don't read every article out there and I don't go searching for them either. If it was posted here, I may have missed it. Maybe the Hiltons are butt-hurt over Kyle garnering a chance to have her own tv show about her life growing up. After all, Kathy is all about hiding the family secrets. See how well it worked with Kim.

 

 

Mauricio isn't Mexican, he is Greek and Russian. He was born in Mexico City because his parents were living there (father born in Mexico City to Russian immigrants.) They moved to the L.A. area when he was small .

Mauricio was born in Mexico, correct? That makes him Mexican much like someone born in America makes them American. He is of Greek and Russian descent. 

Edited December 15, 2015 by GreatKazu

[SCS]

Not my post.  You seem to keep bringing it up..

O. Well, a poster using the screen name "zoeysmom" quoted me 13 posts up and then, for some inexplicable reason, tried to make it about Kim. So I responded. Good to know it wasn't your post.

[ebkitty]

http://www.worth.com/articles/qaa-with-mauricio-umansky/

Mauricio Umansky answers questions about how he got his start in real estate.

[kokapetl]

As Kurtis Blow once rapped, these are the breaks.

Where is it noted the Hiltons have hurt feelings over Mauricio leaving the firm? Again, I don't read every article out there and I don't go searching for them either. If it was posted here, I may have missed it. Maybe the Hiltons are butt-hurt over Kyle garnering a chance to have her own tv show about her life growing up. After all, Kathy is all about hiding the family secrets. See how well it worked with Kim.

It's really just my theory on why Mauricio would not be invited.

[nexxie]

http://www.worth.com/articles/qaa-with-mauricio-umansky/

Mauricio Umansky answers questions about how he got his start in real estate.

Thanks - interesting piece! Mauricio is a smooth character - not surprising that he's good at his job.

[Found A Peanut]

Kathy and Rick should just dry their tears on some of the millions Mauricio made them and call it a day for the sake of family. Amazing how it's not even a thought that maybe Rick should be the grateful one for Mauricio's years of stellar service and, you know, the piles and piles of cash.

Ticky tacky assholes.

[zoeysmom]

Heh, back in one of the early seasons a discussion among the wives+hubs came up re pre-nups. Kyle said something to the effect of she and Maurice didn't have one and they lived in his van for a time post-wedding. That doesn't sound very luxe. Maybe he really needed those commissions.

At no time has Kyle ever said they lived in a van.  She has always lived in a home.  Now you are just making stuff up.  Kyle and Mauricio were both raised in Bel-Air.

Here is the answer to Mauricio's birthplace and where his grandparents and great grandparents were born.  Note the fifth answer down it is from none other than Mauricio's mother.  I guess she reads various chat rooms.  https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110113212506AAgVf6R

[ryebread]

Whatever is written here, is mostly all speculation so here's mine:

 

I've decided that Alexia (she's the 19 year old that wears too much black eyeliner, right?) got uninvited because she called Aunt Kathy a stupid cow during a family argument.  Sophia's not going because she's 14. 

 

Probably not the case, but I think Alexia is a mouthy, spoiled brat.  And she's rude. Tonight if you rewatch this epi, when the food arrives on the yacht, Kyle says the food is like art and starts taking pictures.  Moe tells them that there are still dishes coming and Kyle says, "Don't tell us how to take our photos". Then Alexia, omg, she looks so snotty when she says it, says:  "Yeah, if we want to take a photo we're going to take a photo."  LOL.  Gurrrrl....hope you can swim.  Poor Moe, I hope all the females in his home don't talk down to him like Kyle and Alexia do.

 

And while there's a side of me that thinks she was the voice of reason for shutting Lisa Vanderpump down at table re:  Weddingate, Alexia rubbed me the wrong way in that scene, too.  A bit bossy for someone barely out of a training bra. 

[SCS]

At no time has Kyle ever said they lived in a van. She has always lived in a home. Now you are just making stuff up. Kyle and Mauricio were both raised in Bel-Air.

No I'm not making it up. That's what she said.

[Lura]

Zoeysmom, you know how those urban legends get started and are soon accepted as facts?  I think maybe we should embellish on the van idea and see how far it goes.  Let's say that Kyle and Mauricio lived at a California state park in a pup tent for the first four years of their marriage and that their first daughter was born in a restroom there.  (Pup tents are tiny)!

 

The first White Party actually took place at the State Park.  Kyle had been trying to master the art of cooking on an old, beaten up, used camp stove they were given, and when she became proficient enough, she decided to surprise Mauricio with a birthday party.  She went through the camp grounds with little flyers she made up for invitations, and 64 people showed up, many of whom hadn't eaten for weeks.

 

For lack of a crib, little Alexia slept in a dog cage until she was 2.  Then, her parents kept her attached to a long dog leash for her safety.  She could often be heard babbling with wild dogs in the middle of the night.

 

Mauricio got into a little bit of trouble when he sold a young couple a small parcel of land that actually belonged to the state, but when Alexia appeared in court with her parents and barked instead of talked, the judge took pity on them, and Mauricio was excused with a warning.  These days, the White Party is in honor of Mo's birthday and is also their secret celebration of his first sale!  Alexia now speaks English, Spanish, and dog.

 

We could go on and on with this little tale  No disrespect intended, zoeysmom, but the fact that Alexia had an ordinary bedroom is so normal. We really need that van -- er, pup tent -- for the story!  How about it?

 

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NOTE: NO disrespect of any poster is intended by this satirical, tongue-in-cheek post.  Its purpose is to lighten the atmosphere and to give the writer something to post about.  There are times when she can't think of anything original to say, but she wants to participate, so she resorts to nonsense.  It is meant to be taken in friendship and with high admiration for all of her fellow posters.

Edited December 15, 2015 by Lura

[zoeysmom]

Seems Kathy extended half an olive branch and Kyle wasn't up for it.  http://allthingsrh.com/kyle-richards-skips-kathy-hiltons-christmas-party/