B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[TessHarding2]

Watching live but haven't seen it in a few days.  I see Liam has his Liam The Ingenue confused and betrayed face on.  

[Anna Yolei]

16 hours ago, grisgris said:

Hope's message would have made more impact if she had somehow managed to keep her personal agenda out of it.

Honestly, it's a miracle that she's kept her personal baggage put of it for this damn long. I mean, Hauxdi threw a whole literal shit fit when Liam had the audacity to marry the current girlfriend he was dating and stop short of actually calling him a waffle for that. She certainly didn't hesitate to drag up his past with Hope.

That said, I dunno why Hope was so surprised; this ain't new for him and Steffy is carrying his kid (that we know of). A more steadfast partner than Liam would have second thoughts. But Hope can have some self esteem and not completely throw herself at him.

[jenrising]

Gross, Liam kissing Hope and Steffy one right after the other. Can I go to New York with Thomas and Sally instead of watching this nonsense?

[CountryGirl]

38 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Slouchy news, according to Soap Central!

My heart is positively broken over hearing this. ;-p

WTAF re the party for newly-sprung from jail Ridge.

Having a party to celebrate that his rancid ass is IN jail...that I could understand. 

I don't like Ingo's haircut nor his odd gray vest. 

Brooke's dress was not flattering on her - it made her look short and squatty which KKL most certainly is not. It would have been much better if it was just below the knee or just above and a size smaller.

Ridge's suit looked clean but as for the rest of him, to quote closet watcher CountryBoy, "He always look dirty, doesn't he?"

The party itself was a snoozefest so it was mostly FF material to me.

But I have to say, AN is really coming into her own as Hope of late. She doesn't have the warmth and spunk of KM, but I am loving the hell out of her kicking ass and taking names, namely Hauxdi's.

Hope (to Liam): "Well, I think you have a choice to make. I couldn't sleep last night. I kept going over and over it in my head, and... you can either go back to the way things were -- keep your marriage together, reconcile with your father, have his granddaughter, and then he'll never leave you alone, or..."

Liam: "Or what?"

Hope: "Or don't. Understand who he is and that he never stops till he gets what he wants, and what he wants is your wife. Your wife, who couldn't say no."

Hope: "I knew what I said before, and I wanted to believe it because I know you wanted it so much -- a trusting wife, a loving home to raise your child, a doting grandfather to spoil her... I stood by that dream, I stood by your marriage, but..." The gloves are off now as she sighs: "Look at what it's done, look at what they've done to you."

Liam: "Hope, I don't... I don't really get to blame anyone else for what I did."

Hope: "Of course not, but can't you see? It's toxic, this relationship between the two of them, that they let you think is about you, but it's not. They are just grinding you up between the two of them, and I can't watch it anymore." 

Liam: "You don't think that -- I don't know, you don't think anything I've lost is worth fighting for?" Hell no! 

Hope: "I think you're worth fighting for. But they have you so caged in... you're gonna have to find your own way out."

Liam: "Even if I love my wife?" That had to sting but Hope takes it on the chin. She's no fool. 

Hope: "Yes. But, I don't know, I think she loves him or is under some spell or she's just believing this history that Bill has made, that you're just some minor obstacle in this story of Steffy and Bill. And look at what it's done to you. You're in this drab room, and you've turned your back on everything because they turned their backs on you. And what if it happens again? You know him. He doesn't stop until he gets what he wants. Don't go back to that house. Don't go back to that job. You can work with me at Forrester." She gives him a long look: "I know. I thought all we could be was a beautiful memory. I thought you found your perfect wife, your child, your calling, but here we are again. I mean, this doesn't feel like past anymore. This feels like another beginning."

Hope sighs, steeling her recently-found-backbone: "I never thought I'd be saying these things, telling you to leave your wife." A wife who is a wife in name only because the minute Hauxdi fucked Bill, the Steamless marriage was over and out.

Liam smiles at her: "Yeah, well, you care about me. And anyway, Steffy and I aren't exactly together." Except that Steffy is always there, between them, like an itch just under his skin...a bad rash that won't go away. But Hope is diving in with eyes wide open.

Hope, Steffy 'splaining as only she can: "What will you do when she comes to you with your baby in her arms? And you know that's gonna happen 'cause she doesn't give up. It's not in her. I mean, you said it -- she and Bill are more alike than you are with either of them." Yep.

Liam: "I wonder how'd she feel if she knew." She'd use it against you.

Hope: "As shocked as concerned as I am. I worry if you tell her, she's just gonna use it against you." Damn, Hope is in my head. "She and Bill could have you exactly where they want you." The temperature in the room dropped about 50 degrees.

Liam, feebly defending the indefensible: "No, I -- I mean, Hope, he proposed, she said 'no.'" 

Hope is having none of it: "Will that 'no 'come at all next time? In the beginning, they wanted to be together, they just didn't know how, so they put you in the middle. You remember Aspen? I asked you to meet me at that mountaintop. But they were already co-conspirators back then, pulling the strings. You married her. " Which is ultimately just as much on him as it is on Hauxdi and Bill. It was all on the two of them when Steffy bowed out and left town and they still couldn't get their shit together.  Case in point, and I was just waiting for Liam to fire back, "Remember Paris?" Hope literally pulled an Aspen of her own, marrying Wyatt when Liam showed up a mere five minutes late. "And I watched it all, mid-air. And I promised myself, when I got back from Milan, that watching was all I could do. You know, you were married. You were happy, she was true to you, but I... I'm not gonna watch anymore, not if you're being mistreated. Liam, if she won't agree to an annulment, divorce her. You will not be alone. I love you. I can't remember a time when i didn't. And I can't imagine a time when I won't love you as much as I do right now."

She moves to kiss him and I am certainly not thrilled at the ToD being resurrected yet again (because we all know there will be several more rounds of the "whom will Waffles choose?" merry-go-round).

But I can't deny there's chemistry there, especially when Liam kisses her back for just a moment and pulls back to look into her eyes.

When he cupped her face and then rested his forehead on her's...hmmmm boy, I got a ticket for the Lope train...and the fact that this will chap that heifer Hauxdi's pampered ass, icing, baby, icing.

[nkotb]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

 

When he cupped her face and then rested his forehead on her's...hmmmm boy, I got a ticket for the Lope train...and the fact that this will chap that heifer Hauxdi's pampered ass, icing, baby, icing.

 

Seriously, why does this look so good on TV?? In real life, I'd definitely bump heads too hard with Hubs & wind up with a bruise, then, he'd get his watch caught in my hair, right before his wedding ring took out my earring. Seriously, we're like a Zoosk commercial in real life. Cool for Lope, though! 

Edited April 5, 2018 by nkotb
Zoosk shoutout

[Waldo13]

Why does Hope have to respect your marriage, Stuffy, when you didn't.  I think that Hope is absolutely correct in $Bull not giving up on Stuffy and Stuffy really wanting another chance to ride the bucking bull and not just for 8 seconds. 

Nice to see Sally and Thomas together. Thomas looks really good with a little salt in his hair. 

[TobinAlbers]

If I'm gonna criticize Quinn for Captive Cabin , I gotta give Hope the side eye here too. It's not completely the same situation, but Liam has two damn brain injuries that has resulted in him blacking out, forgetting things, and as of now shooting his father. He is physically and mentally and emotionally compromised. Hope isn't manipulating Liam into staying in that hotel room but she does have an emotional lock on him in that only Hope knows what he's going through and is playing the role of the white knight to Liam's in utter distress damsel and as vulnerable as he is, he's leaning into her and following her lead and becoming dependent on her. Add in that she's crossed the line of throwing out there that she loves him and launches herself into him for a kiss when it's just not the right moment.

Don't get me wrong, the chemistry is there, it's great when a woman is taking charge to defend, protect and fight for her man (Lost!Penny and Desmond 4eva) but Liam isn't her man. He's not even his own man at the moment. The situation is already messy enough with a baby and Steffy, Hope should not throw more crap in the pile for a long while yet.

Flip the genders, if Liam was doing all this with Hope while her estranged husband Wyatt waits in the wings, and Liam kissed her, declared his love all while she's in the midst of a breakdown with missing time and two brain injuries and believes she shot her mother b/c she found out Brooke was banging Wyatt we'd all be looking at Liam at least a little side-eyed too. 

[nilyank]

I guess so but Liam presented the annulment papers before Hope even returned to LA. He wanted to get away from Steffy before the head injuries.

If not for the baby, Liam would not even speak to  Steffy and she is using it for all the mileage that she can get.

She now thinks that Liam talked to his hated father to change his story about Ridge shooting him. For her. She believes that Liam is ready to get over her sleeping with Bill. As if that was no big deal.

If Liam goes back, it is because of the baby. That and because as an attempted murderer, he now thinks that he is  not good enough for Hope. Despite what he did to Bill, Steffy is still not good for Liam.

[SimplePleasures]

20 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wow, I liked Brooke's dress a lot.

I take it you like grocery checkout line barcodes?  ;-) 

That's what her dress reminds me of.  I keep waiting for Ridge to come at her with a laser scanner for a price check.

[A-Lo]

Hope monologues to Liam who looks kinda of sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Steffy monologues to Liam who looks kinda sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Seriously, show...we're doing this AGAIN???

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hope, you might want to load up on the Mrs. Butterworth's because Liam's special recipe waffles are back on the menu! Stop begging.

Geez, Liam has no shame. He was moments away from making out with Hope and then lets Steffy put her mouth on him like he has no agency over his own lips.

Heh, Steffy just kissed Hope by proxy.

[TigerLynx]

This might sound mean, but I wish Hope didn't have any feelings for Liam and was just leading him on.  I think it would be hilarious if Liam dumps Steffy for Hope, runs to Hope and finds Hope with whoever, runs back to Steffy and finds her boinking Bill.

Instead Liam will continue to waffle between Steffy and Hope, and they will be stupid enough to put up with it.

[Gam2]

I wish Liam would move out of the hotel room of doom, fly out of the country and find a nice, normal girl on another continent. I’m so tired of this lame writing. As I’ve said many times before (and y’all are sick of reading this), how can a show make a murder (shooting) mystery BORING? Oh, and I just hated that ugly dress Brooke was wearing today. Who in the hell picks the clothes for this show?

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, A-Lo said:

Hope monologues to Liam who looks kinda of sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Steffy monologues to Liam who looks kinda sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Seriously, show...we're doing this AGAIN???

Because we can't have nice things, apparently.

Why can't Liam ever be the persuer? He was done with Steffy. The other times he married Steffy were because of "mix-ups" or Steffy annoucing she was pregnant two seconds before he was done marrying Hope. And then the "effort" he put into their relationship after Steffy was gone mostly smacked of reactionary tactics than anything else (although it was easily still more effort than he put in when Steffy married Wyatt).

I mean, we know Clifton can  actually act, so fucking let him.

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, TigerLynx said:

This might sound mean, but I wish Hope didn't have any feelings for Liam and was just leading him on.  I think it would be hilarious if Liam dumps Steffy for Hope, runs to Hope and finds Hope with whoever, runs back to Steffy and finds her boinking Bill.

Instead Liam will continue to waffle between Steffy and Hope, and they will be stupid enough to put up with it.

Well, I'm all in for THAT kind of meanness!  I like it :)

[mightysparrow]

1 hour ago, TigerLynx said:

This might sound mean, but I wish Hope didn't have any feelings for Liam and was just leading him on.  I think it would be hilarious if Liam dumps Steffy for Hope, runs to Hope and finds Hope with whoever, runs back to Steffy and finds her boinking Bill.

Instead Liam will continue to waffle between Steffy and Hope, and they will be stupid enough to put up with it.

If liking this is mean, I don't want to be...NOT-mean.  I'm ride or die Hope/Liam but I would LOVE this story line.

[grisgris]

2 hours ago, A-Lo said:

Hope monologues to Liam who looks kinda of sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Steffy monologues to Liam who looks kinda sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Seriously, show...we're doing this AGAIN???

Well said, A-Lo.  That is exactly what I saw.

I'm more down with the pending GarBridge implosion. At least Brooke made a token effort to defend Hope against Haudxi's and Sludge's insinuations. Brooke looked annoyed after Steffy left but I was disappointed when she gave Sludge a reassuring pat on the shoulder instead of immediately addressing the issue.

Honestly, I don't care if Lope makes it or not. I am not a fan at all of Waffle-Liam and I can see absolutely no reason for him to reunite with Steffy. What she (and Bill) did was despicable and baby or not, if he follows one piece of advice that Hope gave him ... it is ... DIVORCE STEFFY. The fact that he is even remotely entertaining the thought of giving her another chance makes me want to throw things at my TV.

It's like Hope painting the "History of Steffy Forrester" (GGGGIRRRRL!  Y-A-A-S!) didn't even register.

When Liam suggested that Hope could have any man in the world that she wanted and why settle for him ... truer words were never spoken. Why those two fight over that sad sack never ceases to amaze me.

Hope = Could do much better than Liam

Steffy = Doesn't deserve Liam

I loved Sally's outfit today. She looked great and so did Quinn.  I've already stated that I didn't like Brooke's dress. It was very matronly. That dress just begs to be worn by Kate Middleton. She is the only woman I can remotely think of who could pull that off. Anybody with curves is going to look heavier than they actually are with those hideous stripes and choppy design and weird length. I could see the dress in a solid color with some kind of contrasting color or pattern pop in the collar, around the opening in the front or the waist maybe.

[La di Diva]

I am convinced that baby is $Bull's.  Hope is usually the good girl compared to Hauxdi's skankarella, so I can't see Show allowing Hope to lure Liam away from his daughter and marriage.  But ... if the baby isn't his then all bets are off. 

I love Hope staking her claim for Liam. Everything she says about Hauxdi and Bill is true. They are toxic for Liam. $Bill never gives up until he gets what he wants. If Hauxdi was the perfect wife she never would have effed her FIL, 

At this point I think Liam believes that as an attempted murderer he's not good enough for Hope, so I do believe he will, temporarily, go back to the Cliff House. I don't see him having sexxy times with Hauxdi.  I think we will see Liam being ripped apart by his guilt over shooting Bill.  Struggling to hide his re-emerging love for Hope. Trying to keep a relationship with Hauxdi for the sake of his daughter.  He's going to spiral down and Hope will be the only person he can confide in.

Hauxdi will be pushing pushing, pushing for cha cha cha and becoming angry and frustrated that Liam won't dance.  Enter Bill for Hauxdi to confide in/ eye fuck about what a meanie Liam is for not being all in on the reconciliation. Because how dare he not be over in 2 minutes the Night o' Skank. Bill of course will be telling Hauxdi what a queen she is, the complete package, how she deserves better than Liam, etc., etc. Somewhere along the way Bill will tell Hauxdi he had the paternity results changed to make Liam the baby daddy to save their marriage,  But since Liam isn't all happy happy joy joy playing happy family at the Cliff House it's time to tell the truth. Partially open door will make an appearance and Liam will overhear.

Hopefully Liam will confront Hauxdi and the $Bull, tell both of them he's done, they are skanks and screw the annulment he wants a divorce.  

Adding:
I wanted to slap a bish when Hauxdi was all cha cha cha kissing Liam today.
Loved seeing my Tally all happy and in love.
Liam is not the shooter.

Edited April 6, 2018 by La di Diva

[ByaNose]

Why do the rich people move in to the dump Motel 6? I know there are budget issues but how hard is it to make 3 walls look like The Beverly Hilton? 

[DeafAngelboy23]

To be fair it’s better than living homeless & hoping to buy a winning lottery ticket. 

[SimplePleasures]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Why do the rich people move in to the dump Motel 6? I know there are budget issues but how hard is it to make 3 walls look like The Beverly Hilton? 

Perhaps the operators of said No Tell Roach Motel are working folk and only have a faint idea of who the movers and shakers are in the Los Angeles fashion world.  They've no clue who Liam Spencer is.  So when the proverbial shit hits the fan and a character of Liam's stature wants to run away and hide, he heads for the No Tell Roach Motel instead of the Beverly Hilton that could possibly be overrun by the paparazzi because Liam Spencer checked in.

[ByaNose]

8 hours ago, DeafAngelboy23 said:

To be fair it’s better than living homeless & hoping to buy a winning lottery ticket. 

Point well taken.

Edited April 6, 2018 by ByaNose

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

9 hours ago, DeafAngelboy23 said:

To be fair it’s better than living homeless & hoping to buy a winning lottery ticket. 

Point well taken.

Sure, but these characters are wealthy, I agree with your original point @ByaNose, and @SimplePleasures makes a good point re: anonymity.

12 hours ago, grisgris said:

When Liam suggested that Hope could have any man in the world that she wanted and why settle for him ... truer words were never spoken.

Hope = Could do much better than Liam

Preach!  I used to want Hope with Liam just so Steffy wouldn't get her way, now I don't want Hope touching Liam with a 10 foot pole.  They really should have had Hope return with a hot Italian boyfriend and, as many here have suggested before, laughed in Steffy's face over the marriage mess that she alone is responsible for. I've said before that I'd be hurt if my husband's "I thought I was going to die" final thought was to kiss another woman (my ARCH ENEMY no less!!!), but sex with father-in-law trumps that any day.

15 hours ago, A-Lo said:

Hope monologues to Liam who looks kinda of sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

Steffy monologues to Liam who looks kinda sheepish and happy at the same time and remains silent while his eyes dart back and forth and he licks his lips.

That's SC's idea of "acting."  Could we please get a break from him???

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Hope, you might want to load up on the Mrs. Butterworth's because Liam's special recipe waffles are back on the menu!

Yep, let's get out the Bisquick and preheat the waffle iron!

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Perhaps the operators of said No Tell Roach Motel are working folk and only have a faint idea of who the movers and shakers are in the Los Angeles fashion world.  They've no clue who Liam Spencer is.  So when the proverbial shit hits the fan and a character of Liam's stature wants to run away and hide, he heads for the No Tell Roach Motel instead of the Beverly Hilton that could possibly be overrun by the paparazzi because Liam Spencer checked in.

He's been there for a few months though. By now, if he's such celebrity, TMZ or the local gossip rags would've sniffed him out. Steffy makes a good point that given what household names they are (?) the press is going to start wondering why they aren't being seen in public together. Especially now that she's carrying Our Little Girl who will be both Forrester and Spencer royalty. (Not to mention the grandchild of a publishing titan who just got shot in the back. The true crime types should be all over it and where Liam Spencer is.)

[TobinAlbers]

45 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

He's been there for a few months though. By now, if he's such celebrity, TMZ or the local gossip rags would've sniffed him out. Steffy makes a good point that given what household names they are (?) the press is going to start wondering why they aren't being seen in public together. Especially now that she's carrying Our Little Girl who will be both Forrester and Spencer royalty. (Not to mention the grandchild of a publishing titan who just got shot in the back. The true crime types should be all over it and where Liam Spencer is.)

I know, right? Steffy was the Forrester/Spencer brand ambassador two years ago so she's supposed to be a high profile influencer/celebrity.

The way to do this would've been to have that nurse that's been in Bill's room and has seen Liam be all wobbly be leaking stuff and talking to a rival rag. Why not have it be Jared that's been brought so low as to be a scum tabloid reporter for a rival publication?  Actually Bill's own tabloids should be allllll over this and a pain in Bill's side quoting back to him that nothing gets in the way of the story - even when your boss's family is the story.

13 hours ago, La di Diva said:

I am convinced that baby is $Bull's.  Hope is usually the good girl compared to Hauxdi's skankarella, so I can't see Show allowing Hope to lure Liam away from his daughter and marriage.  But ... if the baby isn't his then all bets are off. 

I love Hope staking her claim for Liam. Everything she says about Hauxdi and Bill is true. They are toxic for Liam. $Bill never gives up until he gets what he wants. If Hauxdi was the perfect wife she never would have effed her FIL, 

I'm down for Liam being free of Steffy. Make the baby Bill's. Although given Liam has an untreated head injury, the shock of learning he isn't the father will probably send him into another black out state where he may think he tried to hurt Steffy. Or maybe he'll pull a Victor Newman, wander off, crash his car, be presumed dead, and be found by a farm family that takes him in and he assumes a new identity to start a new life away from his family in L.A.

Can we do something with Thorne? I'm sad we have Ingo doing absolutely nothing but become another Rick lurking in the background. Windsor Harmon could've done this shit. Give him a kid with a model he banged in Europe or bring back Macy.

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Yep, let's get out the Bisquick and preheat the waffle iron!

Hey, you've upgraded him from an Eggo. LOL.

Edited April 6, 2018 by TobinAlbers

[ByTor]

11 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Hey, you've upgraded him from an Eggo. LOL.

True, Bisquick is too good for him :)

[ByaNose]

2 hours ago, ByTor said:

Sure, but these characters are wealthy, I agree with your original point @ByaNose, and @SimplePleasures makes a good point re: anonymity.

Preach!  I used to want Hope with Liam just so Steffy wouldn't get her way, now I don't want Hope touching Liam with a 10 foot pole.  They really should have had Hope return with a hot Italian boyfriend and, as many here have suggested before, laughed in Steffy's face over the marriage mess that she alone is responsible for. I've said before that I'd be hurt if my husband's "I thought I was going to die" final thought was to kiss another woman (my ARCH ENEMY no less!!!), but sex with father-in-law trumps that any day.

That's SC's idea of "acting."  Could we please get a break from him???

Yep, let's get out the Bisquick and preheat the waffle iron!

Speaking of waffles I need to make some this weekend. Winter is ending and I need my fill. For some reason, I never think of eating them during the summer. I'm odd that way. And, yes, Liam will be a puppy dog and flip back to Hope. Where Steffy, Bill & the baby (Bill's grandchild) end up is anyones guess?!?!?!

[ByTor]

1 minute ago, ByaNose said:

Winter is ending

It is??? I'm jealous, it's as wintry as ever where I live :(

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

It is??? I'm jealous, it's as wintry as ever where I live :(

Same here. Come on, Spring! Get it together already!

I feel like ass on toast today so my only comment will be about Tally.

I'm still sad to see CH/PF and the blink-and-you-missed-it SF revival but at least my babies get to leave together.

Sally: "Thomas is taking me back to New York with him."

Thomas: "And when we get back, we'll be together." 

I'm going to miss these two so much and with them goes the only couple really worth watching because while I'm on the Lope train, that's mainly due to the Hauxdi dragging and face cracking. When the serious waffling kicks up, I'll be meh on them again.

Back to my babies, just a few more pics to send them off properly:

[ByTor]

@CountryGirl, get well soon!

[ByaNose]

27 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Same here. Come on, Spring! Get it together already!

I feel like ass on toast today so my only comment will be about Tally.

I'm still sad to see CH/PF and the blink-and-you-missed-it SF revival but at least my babies get to leave together.

Sally: "Thomas is taking me back to New York with him."

Thomas: "And when we get back, we'll be together." 

I'm going to miss these two so much and with them goes the only couple really worth watching because while I'm on the Lope train, that's mainly due to the Hauxdi dragging and face cracking. When the serious waffling kicks up, I'll be meh on them again.

Back to my babies, just a few more pics to send them off properly:

It's too bad that Pierson Fode left and that Courtney Hope was fired. They had a lot of potential and they could like actually................act. LOL!!!!

[ByTor]

5 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

It's too bad that Pierson Fode left and that Courtney Hope was fired. They had a lot of potential and they could like actually................act. LOL!!!!

I was prepared to hate the Spectra storyline, but CH managed to save it.  And then TPTB had to go and turn her into that woman who falls in love with any man who rescues her.  For her sake, I'm glad she's gone so she can do better things.

[La di Diva]

I'm just going to fanwank that off screen in NYC Tally are happy and married. 

The whole Spectra Gang is there. Coco has realized what a boring slouch Slouchy is and dumped him.  She is attending Parsons and Tim Gunn is most impressed with her talent. Spectra Fashion is killing it with Tally's designs. Carowhine has gone off to some really dark place and given Thomas sole permanent custody of Douglas.  Tally + Douglas are now their own little happy family and in a couple of years or so there is a little Sally 3.0 for them to dote on.  Tally + kids make periodic appearances in Bell A like Tony and Kristen.  They do not get a divorce but remain happily married. Eric, Ridge, Pam mention them sometimes so we know they are still out there.

[ByTor]

1 minute ago, La di Diva said:

They do not get a divorce but remain happily married.

The secret to a happy soap marriage...do it offscreen :)

[ByaNose]

4 minutes ago, La di Diva said:

I'm just going to fanwank that off screen in NYC Tally are happy and married. 

The whole Spectra Gang is there. Coco has realized what a boring slouch Slouchy is and dumped him.  She is attending Parsons and Tim Gunn is most impressed with her talent. Spectra Fashion is killing it with Tally's designs. Carowhine has gone off to some really dark place and given Thomas sole permanent custody of Douglas.  Tally + Douglas are now their own little happy family and in a couple of years or so there is a little Sally 3.0 for them to dote on.  Tally + kids make periodic appearances in Bell A like Tony and Kristen.  They do not get a divorce but remain happily married. Eric, Ridge, Pam mention them sometimes so we know they are still out there.

BTW! Was Slouchy fired and/or taken off contract, too? I haven't seen him in a while. I have always said that B&B can't do a teen story to save it's life. It's weird why they don't work on B&B. Maybe, because it's a 1/2 hour show?

[TobinAlbers]

13 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

BTW! Was Slouchy fired and/or taken off contract, too? I haven't seen him in a while. I have always said that B&B can't do a teen story to save it's life. It's weird why they don't work on B&B. Maybe, because it's a 1/2 hour show?

Taken off contract even as they hire an age appropriate intern at Forrester.

https://twitter.com/acejordan23/status/981528291529121792

They also missed the boat in making RJ a possible suspect. Coco should've been in the building collapse and critically injured; between that and the way he hurt Brooke AND if he had found out about Bill's sleeping with RJ's sister Steffy, RJ would've been a mix of Rick when he shot Grant over Brooke and Thomas when he tried to blow up Rick over Steffy. RJ's got the crazy genes from both sides for him to feel like he has to step up as a real Logan-Douglas-Forrester and put a cap in someone's ass.

Brooke and Ridge would then be in the same position as with Rick and Rick and Thomas could've actually had story about them where they both recall how they both did the same shit; hell, what if they had it so RJ confided in Thomas and/or Rick and we got these rivals trying to protect their overlooked and beloved little brother and each willing to cop to the shooting to protect him? Maya finally has something to do other than bounce Lizzie on a knee offscreen. OMG can you imagine Thomas taking the fall, going on trial, Ridge and Caroline and Sally all trying to help him and Sally figuring it out that RJ did it and Coco begging her not to say anything and Sally torn as she wants to protect her man but also understands why RJ did it? Or Maya figures it out and Rick tells her to leave it alone but she doesn't and if actually affects their marriage that she threw his little brother under the bus?

Now, I'm mad we didn't get this. No, Slouchy isn't the greatest actor but the rest of the actors would've kicked ass in a story like this.

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, TobinAlbers said:

Taken off contract even as they hire an age appropriate intern at Forrester.

https://twitter.com/acejordan23/status/981528291529121792

They also missed the boat in making RJ a possible suspect. Coco should've been in the building collapse and critically injured; between that and the way he hurt Brooke AND if he had found out about Bill's sleeping with RJ's sister Steffy, RJ would've been a mix of Rick when he shot Grant over Brooke and Thomas when he tried to blow up Rick over Steffy. RJ's got the crazy genes from both sides for him to feel like he has to step up as a real Logan-Douglas-Forrester and put a cap in someone's ass.

Brooke and Ridge would then be in the same position as with Rick and Rick and Thomas could've actually had story about them where they both recall how they both did the same shit; hell, what if they had it so RJ confided in Thomas and/or Rick and we got these rivals trying to protect their overlooked and beloved little brother and each willing to cop to the shooting to protect him? Maya finally has something to do other than bounce Lizzie on a knee offscreen. OMG can you imagine Thomas taking the fall, going on trial, Ridge and Caroline and Sally all trying to help him and Sally figuring it out that RJ did it and Coco begging her not to say anything and Sally torn as she wants to protect her man but also understands why RJ did it? Or Maya figures it out and Rick tells her to leave it alone but she doesn't and if actually affects their marriage that she threw his little brother under the bus?

Now, I'm mad we didn't get this. No, Slouchy isn't the greatest actor but the rest of the actors would've kicked ass in a story like this.

He really was a plot device for Brooke & Ridge to reunite..............again. Also, he was too short to be taken seriously. Granted, we aren't all tall but with his height, slouching & his hands in the pockets all the time he didn't scream Tiger Beat! LOL!!! Seriously, B&B (mainly Brad Bell) just isn't into the teen set. Which is odd because that's how his sister started on Y&R.

[hitchcock3011]

I came back for Sheila and enjoyed Sally and Thomas + Katie and Wyatt.  I did not sign up for the Hope/Steffi/Liam triangle of boredom. I am out until something fun is happening again

[Gam2]

Hope is so pale with blond hair (and those damned strings hanging in her face) that they need to put her in some colored clothing. Not white, pale lilac, whatever that color was today, beige, tan, etc. It’s like they want her to completely fade away. 

[Waldo13]

Now that Stuffy is pregnant she has assumed the posture of RJ.  Stuffy is now slouchy 2.0. 

Sides are being drawn. Brooke and Hope on one side and Ridge and Stuffy on the other. I'm waiting for this to affect Ridge and Brooke to a marriage ending fight. Stuffy you are the one that affected your marriage not Hope. If Liam goes back to you, it's his decision but Stuffy and Ridge act like Liam doesn't have a choice. 

[La di Diva]

Go Liam, tell Hauxdi to be with $Bill. You, Hope, Justin and everyone else know it'll happen eventually.  Hauxdi's face crack was perfect.

Loved Hope standing her ground with Hauxdi.  I though I saw a nano second of fear cross Hauxdi's face when she threatened Hope not to interfere with her marriage and Hope just gave her a steely-eyed eff off look.

Yet another crack in Garbridge when Sludge got all up on Hope for not being Hauxdi's cheerleader.  So far Hope is the only one who isn't excusing Hauxdi's behavior and telling Liam to just get over it Right. Now.  I cheered when Hope told Brooke to call it was it is -- an affair, not an indiscretion. It's even more of an affair than Hope knows with those weeks of eye-fucking, tongue-bathing and hand-holding.

Edited April 6, 2018 by La di Diva

[AngelKitty]

16 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Stuffy and Ridge act like Liam doesn't have a choice.

Unfortunately Liam doesn't know how to make a choice.

[RedRockRosie]

2 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Hope is so pale with blond hair (and those damned strings hanging in her face) that they need to put her in some colored clothing. Not white, pale lilac, whatever that color was today, beige, tan, etc. It’s like they want her to completely fade away. 

Seemed pretty clear that they are telling us that Hope is the purer/lighter/brighter one & Hauxdi being more dark/manipulative & was all in black.

Hauxdi just seemed so grasping, pushy & controlling with Liam demanding he come home & forgive her immediately....don't know how he can stand her. Not that I necessarily want to see him with Hope either. FFS ladies, give the poor schmuck a chance to draw a breath on his own already! Even Waffles need to breathe & get their heads straight.

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, La di Diva said:

Loved Hope standing her ground with Hauxdi.

As she did, all I could think was "For the love of God, Hope, don't go near any electric panels!"

2 hours ago, AngelKitty said:

Unfortunately Liam doesn't know how to make a choice.

1 hour ago, RedRockRosie said:

Hauxdi just seemed so grasping, pushy & controlling with Liam demanding he come home & forgive her immediately....don't know how he can stand her.

"You HAVE to know I'm committed to you, Liam!"  You have an awesome way of showing it, Hauxdi!

[grisgris]

The fact that Waffle Boy is so easily swayed is disturbing and I really don't think the banged-up brain is that much of a factor because this is how he's always been. The fact that he is even replaying Hauxd's kiss and her begging him to go back home speaks to his weakness of character.

I hate the way Hauxdi stands there and orders Liam to "put everything behind him" and return to her. She is so cold and demanding. I know most of it is because JMW is such a lousy actress but a truly contrite wife would be softer, gentler, kinder and more understanding. One thing that Hope has really nailed and continues to drive home is that Hauxdi really isn't considering Liam's feelings at all. It's all about HER HER HER!!

I hate Sludge. It really is none of his business if Hope went to visit Liam and under what circumstances. I wonder how much longer Brooke is going to sit there and watch him berate Hope and not intervene? I mean he really hasn't done/said anything terrible yet, but it's brewing. I can tell. As soon as his little princess goes whining to him about Hope "filling Liam's head with ideas," all hell is gonna break loose.

[Gam2]

I can’t stand Sludge or Brooke when she’s around him or Slutty being such a slut/so demanding of Liam, Hope because she needs to stay out of this situation and mostly, Liam because he isn’t a man. He’s a child who can’t make a decision to save his soul. Enough already.

[ByaNose]

NuHope and her spaghetti curls are awful. I can’t beleive the hair department think it’s a good look. Everyone knows she died her hair for the part but the problem is she is too pale with the blonde hair. That wouldn’t be a problem but they are spdrssing her in white and pale pinks. She looks like she is sick........everyday. Dress that girl in some color or patterns. Jeez! They have eyes and monitors in that studio. Are they all blind? 

[TobinAlbers]

Also NuHope's actress  slayed in her Geico commercial. She knows how to play a joke.  They need to let her bring some of that humor into her portrayal as Hope currently seems pretty high strung and still tense. Seeing KM kicking butt over on LA to Vegas seems to support that it's not the actresses that can't losen up- Hope is written as more on the serious but sweet side with a not great sense of humor. Hope learning to relax and enjoy life while she was in Italy would've been great. Imagine the faces as she let her snark flag fly free instead of appearing to look down her nose at Steffy or play the judgemental cheerleader. Add some spice to the sugar. 

Actually, she's totally Betty Cooper from Riverdale. She just needs to let her Dark Hope out. But then they might tread too close to Aly as she began spiraling.

[thewhiteowl]

I am disappointed that they didn't discover $Bull had a brain tumor. Too difficult to write a new story, probably. Now they can rehash old scripts as usual. Damn, Steffy is thick as brick. She kisses him and he can't bring himself to touch her. He looked like he would hurl. Told her to go to Dolla! He seems done with her. A sharp contrast to that Hope smooch. I think Hope has it right, Dolla is not going to give up. 

[AngelKitty]

10 hours ago, ByTor said:

As she did, all I could think was "For the love of God, Hope, don't go near any electric panels!"

That's exactly what I thought!