B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

Anna Yolei · March 30, 2018

1 minute ago, Gam2 said:

Gosh, I’m so tired of these repeat stories and characters. How about some new, interesting, different folks doing different jobs?

I for one would love a revival of the Spectra line.

Oh wait ?

Dream Boy · March 30, 2018

I don’t care who shot Bill either. I just wanted him dead.

jenrising · March 30, 2018

Steffy trying to convince everyone Quinn is a viable suspect was fun. First because none of them know about some of her most serious crimes. But also, let she who is without sin and all that, Steffy. One cousin killed (reasonably) and one shoved into an electrical panel. If past violence is a reason to suspect someone she should be on the list.

If I had some convenient amnesia I would've been 100% on the Hope & Liam train this week. Alas, it just makes me tired, even though I thought their scenes were good.

It was nice to see Brooke doing something other than simpering even if it was for her asshole husband of the week. But she should have pushed a lot more on the tiny details that Bill was shot in the back and had just come out of a coma when he accused Ridge (and admitted he didn't see the person) instead of going on and on about how she just knew Ridge wouldn't do it.

Maelstrom · March 30, 2018

1 hour ago, TobinAlbers said:

My mom is adamant that Liam's gonna go through all this angst, settle his accounts with Steffy, Bill, and Hope and go turn himself in only for Sanchez and Baker to examine the evidence and tell him, yeah, no, you didn't do it.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

grisgris · March 31, 2018

3 hours ago, Gam2 said:

What the hell is Brooke doing going to the police station to give Det. Sanchez (?) the third d/egree? He should have said he couldn’t discuss the case with her and shown her the door. Just telling the police that your husband isn’t guilty isn’t worth the breath she put into it. Stupid..

Which, sadly, is going to come back around and bite her in the ass in the probably not so distance future when Sludge screws up again. Notice how quickly he came to Quinn's defense? You'd think he'd be grateful to have another scent to throw Hotdog and Hound Dog off the trail.

Does the LA jail have a tanning bed? Sludge is the most robust looking inmate I've seen. His hair is even lighter. He looks like he just returned from a fishing jaunt in the gulf.

I thought the scenes with Liam and Hope were pretty good today. Maybe nuHope is another one who shines when given meatier material to work with. Watching her prop Steam and cower to Ridge was going nowhere fast.

I am not convinced that Liam shot Bill. I think somebody else did it and set Liam up; even as far as planting the sheepskin glove in his car.

P.S.: Today I was out shopping/running errands. I know, STUPID, as apparently people were off today and shopping for Easter, etc. So, I was tired and hungry and my feet hurt and I noticed as I walked the aisles of the supermarket, there was a young pregnant woman. I kid you not, her body looked like JMW's with the fake pregnancy pad -- this woman was tall and thin and the only weight gain was the baby (maybe 4-5 months along?) She also had dark hair but it was up in a messy bun and definitely looked healthy like it was her real hair. She was talking on her cell phone and I kept hearing, "The baby. This baby. My BABY!" GAHHH!!! THEN, I ended up face-to-face in front of the Chobani case and it was like "Who got here first?" (to open the door and make a selection.) She just gave me a coy smile and rubbed her belly. "Steffy, is that you?" Actually, she was very polite and said, "Excuse me" and made her yogurt selection quickly.

Edited March 31, 2018 by grisgris

Joimiaroxeu · March 31, 2018

Aw, poor Hope. Her plans to tug Liam away from his wife just got blown up real good. It's hard to live happily ever after with a guy who just admitted to trying to kill his own father.

"What reason would Bill Spencer have to lie?" Det. Sanchez, how old are you, 12? I bet some older boys took you snipe-hunting when you were a kid.

TobinAlbers · March 31, 2018

Interesting that it was the Logan women doing the damn thing to protect their men this week- Brooke strutting around town all business trying to get to the bottom of the situation and get her man out of jail and Hope, upon Liam's confession determined to keep Liam out of jail by smacking that phone out of his hand and talking him off the ledge.

I think it won't be Liam trying to kill his father that will finally turn Steffy on Liam but that he confessed it to Hope first. It will really hit her then that at his lowest and most vulnerable he placed his trust in another woman- even though Steffy still doesn't grasp that screwing his father obliterated Steam's foundation and that there is no way on a mere few months Liam would've felt like he could trust her on that level again.

Something Liam has to worry about is that he point blank told Steffy that finding out about this affair made him so angry that he was afraid to confront Bill because he was afraid he'd kill Bill. Would she 'accidentally' let that slip to Ridge or Brooke or Sanchez in her anger? If she did, I can't see Liam ever getting past that.

Any way we can make Hope a suspect? I know she was talking to Brooke when the deed went down, but I do find it interesting that Hope hasn't had a scene with Bill yet like their building to something. I wonder if it'll be revealed she saw him that night. Also do we know where Deacon is? Is he still in jail? Any way it would be believable that Hope asked Daddy Deacon to take out Bill because...he owed her? I know, I'm stretching.?

SimplePleasures · March 31, 2018

My takeaway from today's episode.....Hope can cry real tears.

I'm really liking Annika Noelle as Hope. A lot. I didn't follow the Triangle of Doom with Kim Matula and Company, but I have caught Kim in her new show LA to Vegas and I can't imagine Kim as the original Hope.

Anna Yolei · March 31, 2018

3 hours ago, jenrising said:

If I had some convenient amnesia I would've been 100% on the Hope & Liam train this week. Alas, it just makes me tired, even though I thought their scenes were good.

Their scenes this week has only solidified my opinion that these two should just remain friends for the foreseeable future. Rember how we all liked when she and Liam because friends during all that Post Possé boink exposure and she encouraged Bill to take some interest in knowing Liam? That was a great slow burn (okay, it might have been six weeks tops, but it might have been a year for B&B). Let's do that again, but instead it's Liam learning who he is outside of his relationships with Forrester women who aren't his soon to be daughter and Hope realizing that while she cares about him that she doesn't love him like that and she moves to anyone else (Not Thorne GOD no).

Now would be a good time for Myron Jr to swing by looking for his birth father. And the surprise twist is he becomes the Apex of a triangle with Hope and Liam! ?

I kid, I kid :p but there's so many other things besides this boring ass shit no one was eating up back in 2011.

As a parting gift, I saw this on Tumblr today and I instantly thought of this stupid show. I am here for any or all of these suggestions. Especially #5 :p

5 minutes ago, SimplePleasures said:

My takeaway from today's episode.....Hope can cry real tears.

I'm really liking Annika Noelle as Hope. A lot. I didn't follow the Triangle of Doom with Kim Matula and Company, but I have caught Kim in her new show LA to Vegas and I can't imagine Kim as the original Hope.

She had her moments....she really did. But the writing made her one part Mackenzie Browning from Y&R (the last actress being so dour that even Eeyore would tell her to smile), one part Paris Hilton minus the ambition with two parts Bella Swan's magical Mary Sue-ness and it came together as a hot mess. Especially when Hope got lines about Steffy losing her baby was a blessing for Lope....Steffy was, is, and will always The Trash from the Hills, but goddamn did that not make me feel anything but the need to punch my TV set.

Oh God, and after Wyatt was brought on and she got to be the HBOC? Some of us were begging to have Steffy back (although we could've lived with a new actress in the role, but I digress). Somehow the character became even MORE insufferable.

Edited March 31, 2018 by Anna Yolei

ByTor · March 31, 2018

On 3/29/2018 at 9:35 PM, Snaporaz said:

Why does vegan Liam own sheepskin gloves?

BOOM!

ByTor · March 31, 2018

On 3/27/2018 at 11:13 PM, mightysparrow said:

You can't cha cha cha your way out of fucking your father in law.

LOL I'm imagining this literally happening & it's giving me the giggles :)

On 3/29/2018 at 11:21 AM, Cindylou said:

i was up and walking the day after brain surgery.

Good for you! You must have had lots of determination to heal.

On 3/29/2018 at 5:48 PM, slayer2 said:

I'm also going to sit at the table of one with my wine and ship Liam and A New Hope.

Well, while I don't like them as a couple, I'll sit with you in really liking this new Hope :)

On 3/29/2018 at 10:50 PM, Maelstrom said:

Poor Liam, having another brain thing. He has to have enough punches on his Frequent Head Injury card to get a free catscan soon.

*snort*

18 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Now that they are letting her do more than run around as a Liam/Steffy cheerleader; I think she is improving.

Agreed.

18 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

I don't understand how they can hold Ridge, with no real evidence except a recently un-comatosed man's word.

Add to that that Carter brought up how the doctor repeatedly told the police to stop questioning a groggy, distressed Bill. That should have been enough to at least not get Ridge arrested.

16 hours ago, AngelKitty said:

That boy has brain damage, establish that before any confessions are made.

He married Steffy several times, brain damage has already been established :)

On 3/29/2018 at 6:24 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Shane Whatshisface

Ugh.

On 3/29/2018 at 5:48 PM, slayer2 said:

As someone who was hit by a car and concussed and has acted differently ever since, I'm finding it pretty relatable.

I'm sorry :(

11 hours ago, jenrising said:

It was nice to see Brooke doing something other than simpering even if it was for her asshole husband of the week. But she should have pushed a lot more on the tiny details that Bill was shot in the back and had just come out of a coma when he accused Ridge (and admitted he didn't see the person) instead of going on and on about how she just knew Ridge wouldn't do it.

I loved Brooke telling Det. Sanchez that Ridge and Bill hated each other, so he KNOWS Ridge didn't do this. Huh?

Edited March 31, 2018 by ByTor

Petunia13 · March 31, 2018

Brooke is very beautiful and a sweet person but sometimes her logic is uhhh ?

I have to think something is deliberate with all of Liam's head injuries. The character definitely needed a shake up from being a chronic waffle and perpetual doormat. Now where this is going or will end up a year from now I cannot say and I don't think the writers know ? but he did need a new direction.

SweePea59 · April 1, 2018

I loved the surreal/dreamlike/sci-fi music behind Liam when he had his melt down! Fantastic! It just made the scene all the more better.

On 3/29/2018 at 5:32 PM, La di Diva said:

I do think Liam saw the real shooter and has blacked it out. My money is on Jared or Saul., but I would flove it if it really was Sludge.

It just seems too early for them to conclude the actual mystery part of who shot $Bull. It did look like someone other than Liam did it in Liam's flashbacks. I want to guess that a dazed Liam made his way to $Bull's door and $Bull had him lay down on the couch, which as I understand it you do not allow someone with a head injury to do, and Liam did see what actually happened. But $Bull thinks Liam was too out of it to have witnessed anything. Liam just hasn't regained all of the memories yet. And hopefully he'll remember seeing the belly-rubber and Wyatt in bed while he's at it. We really need Taylor to come back and hypnotize those memories out of him.

Edited April 1, 2018 by SweePea59

Anna Yolei · April 1, 2018

Naw, we don't. She didn't even succeed with Rick, who just "lied" on the stand for Phoebe's sake. He told Ridge later that he still had no memory of shooting Grant and didn't believe it.

Edited April 1, 2018 by Anna Yolei

Gam2 · April 2, 2018

For God’s sake, Hope. Get those stupid strings of hair out of your face!!!

Waldo13 · April 2, 2018

Det Blabbermouth still hasn't asked $Bull the most important question which is how could he see the shooter when he was shot in the back? True to $Bull's nature, nothing is ever his fault.

mightysparrow · April 2, 2018

Finally caught up with Easter B&B. First of all, Annika has really come into her own. I was so proud of her because I know she's been catching hell with fans. Anyone who says that AN and SC don't have chemistry needs to check out that shot of Liam resting his head in Hope's lap. That's more chemistry than all the cha-cha-cha combined. It seems that once Hope starts reading people, she can't stop. Her handling of $Bull was just as glorious as her read of Hauxdilox. I hope Ridge doesn't step up to Hope because he'll make it a hat-trick.

I agree with whoever said that the Logan women were taking care of business. While Hauxdilox is whining with her father at the county jail, the Logan women are taking care of business.

My only complaint, and it's a big one, is Hope is still beating that 'happy family' bullshit about Hauxdilox and Liam. Hope just confessed to Liam that she loves him and doesn't want to live her life without him. So she's going to talk $Bill into letting Liam off the hook and then hand him to that evil slattern on a silver platter. It's time that Hope took what was hers; everybody else does.

I love watching SC but I'm getting a bit tired of his weekly tour de force performance. Why can't anybody else get a chance to shine? There are lots of actors on the show who are capable of doing some good work but they can't catch a break. Where the fuck are Thomas and Sally? Has Ingo spoken more than 5 lines a week? It's hard to look at Rena since she did that fuckery with her eyebrows, but that shit can be fixed. We know how good she can be. It's time for Liam to check himself into a sanitarium and take a break.

Even with all the histrionics, I have a feeling that Liam is being gaslighted. I think it's a combination of his head injury and some nefarious outsider. And even if he DID shoot Bill, any lawyer worth his/her salt would simply walk into court and say two words: mitigating circumstances. Combine Liam's history of head injuries and the fact that his wife fucked his father and any judge/jury in the land would not only find him innocent, they'd also give him a chance to take another shot at $Bill, no questions asked.

Gam2 · April 2, 2018

I just can’t warm up to NuHope. I felt like she was just reciting her lines while trying to put some emotion into it when she was yelling at Bill in the hospital. I didn’t buy it. And Brooke telling the detective that he was wrong, he needed to go back to the hospital and ask Bill again who shot him, etc. That was beyond ridiculous and believable. That would never, never happen in real life. He’d have said “I can’t discuss this case with you. Leave now”. I don’t even know why I bother anymore. The writers aren’t even TRYING to make this show believable.

TigerLynx · April 2, 2018

It's to bad Bill Spencer Sr. is dead. Brooke got all whiney at a party once asking him why he didn't like her, and his response was, "You have no pride or decorum, and you just barged into a party you weren't invited to," and walked away.

The LAPD is right up there with the Port Charles PD and Salem PD. The days of Robert Scorpio, Roman and Bo Brady, etc. is long gone.

Bo to Steve, "Someone shot EJ Dimera." Steve, "Is he still alive?" Bo, "Yes." Steve, "Then you should know I didn't do it. I'm a better shot than that."

I still don't think the "Who shot Bill" SL will have a good payoff. If Liam didn't do it, then whoever is framing him won't turn out to be anyone of any consequence. I hope I'm wrong though.

grisgris · April 3, 2018

Those scenes with Hope/Liam/Bill were on FY-YAH! Hope didn't back down one inch and threw everything in that lying dirtbag's face: The proposal to Hauxdi, sleeping with Hauxdi, the take down of Spectra. Genius and better because Bill was captive audience in that hospital bed. As far as the acting goes ... AN and SC seem to have OK chemistry, as friends. A casual observer would never pick up that they'd actually been almost-married (several times) before. I don't think that AN and KKL have believable mother/daughter chemistry. Not like KKL had with AJ. I feel like one or possibly both are holding back a bit. Maybe it will just take time for them to gel.

I still am not convinced that Liam pulled the trigger. However, I have no idea who really did it.

I have to wonder ... (not condoning anything Bill did) ... if Ridge had shot Bill and told Brooke, would she have blown a gasket and bailed as well? I don't think so and I know that her fierce loyalty is going to backfire on her down the road. We know that GarBridge will never be allowed to rot in peace.

ByaNose · April 3, 2018

Obviously, Liam isn’t the real killer. I’m guessing he witness it and the killer brainwashed him and planted the gloves in his car. It has to be someone without a contract like Sheila or Jarrett. If Brad Abel wants to go really soap crazy it could be Wyatt. I thought DD did a good job in admitting Ridge didn’t shoot him and possibly withholding Liam’s name....for now. I agree that NuHope’s hair looked awful. It made her head look so long with the droopy strings of hair. Was the hair department off that day? It wasn’t a good look for her. Overall, it’s a good whodunnit and I think it will make Bill go even harder to land Steffy. There isn’t anything holding him back now.

grisgris · April 3, 2018

Ugh ... I forgot about Hope's unfortunate hairstyle. Those thin precise strands hanging from either side of her temple, along with the heavy pointy eyebrows, gave her a slightly crazed appearance. It wasn't a good look and if it hadn't been such an emotionally-charged scene, would have easily detracted from her words and posturing.

I'd never seen a look quite like that. Usually, you pull a medium-sized strand of hair out of your ponytail in front of each ear or bigger chunks on either side of your part in front but that was uh ... unique. It missed in looking either deliberately messy or unwittingly disheveled.

Joimiaroxeu · April 3, 2018

Why is it up to Brooke to get Ridge out? Where is Ridge's criminal defense attorney? And wouldn't it be up to some ADA to determine whether Ridge can be held or not? Haven't the B&B MWTs watched Law & Order?

Well, yeah Bill. Liam is indeed a bastard because you didn't marry his mother. It all falls back on you and your bad choices from before he was even born.

Good lawd, what climbed up Hope's hiney? Oh honey, plenty of "good people" have committed murder. Liam is gonna need a way better defense than that.

I can't with Det. Sanchez. How does he keep questioning witnesses and potential suspects in the same room with each other?

TobinAlbers · April 3, 2018

54 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Obviously, Liam isn’t the real killer. I’m guessing he witness it and the killer brainwashed him and planted the gloves in his car. It has to be someone without a contract like Sheila or Jarrett. If Brad Abel wants to go really soap crazy it could be Wyatt. I thought DD did a good job in admitting Ridge didn’t shoot him and possibly withholding Liam’s name....for now. I agree that NuHope’s hair looked awful. It made her head look so long with the droopy strings of hair. Was the hair department off that day? It wasn’t a good look for her. Overall, it’s a good whodunnit and I think it will make Bill go even harder to land Steffy. There isn’t anything holding him back now.

They wouldn't have Wyatt get blackout drunk without thoroughly following up on it. Liam is getting his angsty turmoil, once that is throughly wrung for maximum effect it'll shift to the next suspect, Wyatt. That'll pull Katie and Quinn into the fray and give them good moments of do they support Wyatt no matter what or is Katie going to waffle/ be torn between her lover and her baby daddy? If Wyatt is pushing for a quickie wedding- to perhaps secure Katie as his wife before crap hits the fan?- then things could get interesting.

Liam had his breakdown into Hope's arms. Katie will have her crying, begging, just please tell me the truth heartrender with Wyatt.

Petunia13 · April 3, 2018

Bill is like a protagonist in an F Scott Fitzgerald series where he only wants the one he can't have or the chase then get bored or ruins what he has. Mark my words the second he marries Steffy his mind and crotch will be fixated on the next thing. Building or ex. I don't see him moving on from Brooke ? so easily she's the only woman who really challenged him. Steffy is a moron so I'm sure she'd find a way to eff things up along the way as well. She has literally nothing in common with Liam and a complete disdain for his values yet refuses to let him go be with someone compatible or find a life alone.

ByTor · April 3, 2018

14 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

Annika has really come into her own.

I really like her...I have since day 1...and honestly I could watch an entire episode during which Hope goes from room to room & lets people have it!

Joimiaroxeu · April 3, 2018

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They wouldn't have Wyatt get blackout drunk without thoroughly following up on it.

If Wyatt tried to kill Bill then I think this would be a good time for Wyatt's paternity to be questioned. There's never been a DNA test on him, right? Bill just took Quinn's word for it. Things would get really hairy if it comes out (or if someone strategic finds out) that Wyatt isn't really Bill's kid. And then Bill reveals that Steffy's kid is! One door opens as another closes.

TobinAlbers · April 3, 2018

"You may have even hated me a little bit." Wow, Bill. You either are in some serious denial or you don't get just how much you screwed over your son.

Liam is an unreliable narrator at this point so whatever he sees we should take as only partly true. The way Liam is remembering things when we see him first hit his head it's at the cliff house so the person he saw leaving probably was Bill. He followed Bill home where he assumes he shot him.

What will probably be revealed is that he mixed up seeing Bill leave with another later memory at the Spencer house of him seeing someone leave as well. The way they're styled, I'm thinking it's Wyatt so that we're springboarded to the next suspect.

Also, this could be a director's choice but Liam didn't see himself load the gun only the gun fire from his POV. If someone is gaslighting him to really make him think he did it my crazy theory is that the person has to be big enough with a wide arm reach to stand behind Liam and either force him to fire the gun or wrap their arms around him and fire the gun so in his black out state he's simply a puppet.

Liam actually was serving up some good anger to Bill when he tried to get indignant about getting shot. He was finally being honest in his feelings. Bill's 'I could've died!' being answered with 'Yeah, Sorry about that, dad' was great. He's regretful that he thinks he went as far as murder but he's not taking Bill's shit.

Liam's shocked heart eyes at Hope as she unleashed on Bill was everything. He's gonna nail her good before he prepares to go off to prison.

Steffy's heart eyes for Liam are gonna fall big time once she catches up on everything. Hope saved Liam and Ridge by bullying Bill. Liam confided in Hope, not her. Liam tried to kill Bill (nevermind she shot Sheila point blank and could've killed her) he can't be a good father! At which I want Thorne and Ivy in a cameo to dare her to try to play that card.

54 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

If Wyatt tried to kill Bill then I think this would be a good time for Wyatt's paternity to be questioned. There's never been a DNA test on him, right? Bill just took Quinn's word for it. Things would get really hairy if it comes out (or if someone strategic finds out) that Wyatt isn't really Bill's kid. And then Bill reveals that Steffy's kid is! One door opens as another closes.

If they ever go there with Wyatt's parentage my crazy new story twist about this is Quinn miscarried her child but knew about Kelly also being pregnant. Quinn being Pre Eric peen Quinn and psycho and obsessed/angry at Bill and angry at Kelly also sleeping with Bill at the same time, stalked her and planned to steal her baby to replace her lost child. She gets to the hospital and steals Baby Boy Cooper not realizing that there were two baby boys- fraternal twins. She then reasons that her crime isn't so bad since Kelly will still have a baby boy that ends up being Liam while she ends up with the son she names Wyatt. We only have Quinn's word about Wyatt's origins and age and Quinn and Kelly's pregnancies did apparently overlap. Kelly desperately wants her other son, but there are no leads and the police finally give up, Kelly is forced to move on and decides that to spare Liam the additional loss of a brother after not having a father, she never tells him the truth.

So basically Wyatt and Liam would be the fraternal twin sons of Kelly and Bill.

Edited April 3, 2018 by TobinAlbers

Gam2 · April 3, 2018

Liam? Don’t believe one word your dad said to you in the hospital. He’s just biding his time until he can exact revenge on you because even if he doesn’t believe you shot him, he’ll use it against you.

Waldo13 · April 3, 2018

What part of I only caught a glimpse, of the shooter (not) in a dark room doesn't Det Blabbermouth doesn't understand. Now he's trying to cover his ass for his ineptitude by attesting Ridge.

Are we actually watching B&B or are we in an alternate universe. $Bull actually took onus for his actions. I got the feeling there's another show to drop by the end of the week. Gam2, I agree, $Bull neither forgives or forgets. Liam renewed his deal with the Devil

slayer2 · April 3, 2018

I am so in love with A New Hope right now. Ughhhhh!

9 hours ago, ByTor said:

I really like her...I have since day 1...and honestly I could watch an entire episode during which Hope goes from room to room & lets people have it!

Girl, we've been cheering her from day one. She's exceptional and ditto! I'll bring the wine!

Edited April 3, 2018 by slayer2

Joimiaroxeu · April 3, 2018

Wow, for a minute there Hope looked like she was ready to cut a bish. Guess she owns Liam now since she both stopped him from turning himself in and made Bill fold.

Brooke had a lot more confidence in Det. Sanchez that he deserved, IMO. The guy jumped on the first half-way viable suspect with only flimsy circumstantial evidence.

Wait until Steffy finds out why Bill recanted.

So that's it? Bygones between Liam and Bill? Sheesh. All these weeks of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

TobinAlbers · April 3, 2018

And just like that Liam went from a 'good guy' to being a true Spencer. Kelly Cooper is probably rolling over in her grave.

Sure, Liam's omitted the truth in an effort to spare someone's feelings or avoid confrontation, but he now believes that he tried to kill his father and rather than own it and turn himself in, he's emotionally manipulating/bullying his father with a side of Hope harping into keeping quiet about his role because Bill's partially to blame as well. Because Bill ain't dead and Ridge is off the hook, it's all good and Liam feels no moral need for the truth to out for its own good. For his own moral good.

Liam Cooper would have a bigger issue with keeping this secret. Liam Spencer was bitching and wise cracking and blame shifting like dear old dad.

Shaking Bill's hand was akin to making a deal with the devil. Liam thinks he's in the clear but he's probably only about to realize that his anguish of the last week was only the entry level of hell he's about to endure.

Ridge is in the clear, no one suspects Liam as of now which means the police will move onto a new suspect which likely will be Wyatt. Who has no alibi. Who cannot have anyone corroborate his whereabouts. If Wyatt is arrested, Quinn and snooping Katie is going to be turning over every damn rock to free him. Quinn already tried to push the cops towards Liam citing his past head injuries. Bill is going to be caught between letting one son suffer to protect the other- whose wife he wants. Is Bill going to let Wyatt rot 'knowing' Liam shot him? Is Liam going to keep his mouth shut so he can be free to be with his daughter and Hope? What if Katie breaks Bill down until he finally admits that Liam told him he did it? And then she tells Quinn? Is there anywhere on earth Liam could hide if Quinn found out her son was arrested for a crime Liam committed? Quinn would actually feel justified for all the shit she's done to Liam and come out on top now in her issues with Liam- which would suck because of all she's done to him. And yet it's exactly the kind of 'full circle' soapy stuff that's done.

Only then when Liam's caught by Quinn, arrested, and probably full on in a breakdown will we get another twist that he didn't do it, but the damage will be done- Quinn will be back in full on Liam and Bill hate, Wyatt will be the 'victim' of Liam and Bill, Liam will be decimated, and Steffy done with Liam and probably forgiving of Bill since he was in a 'tough situation'.

Also Steffy is due in July-ish so I'd expect this to come to a head for May sweeps so Baby Girl Spencer- Forrester will be a preemie due to Steffy being shocked into early labor. Either she finds out about Liam shooting Bill or in the immediate aftermath something happens that sends her into labor. If Quinn is involved then Eric, Ridge, Liam, and Bill all would be on her ass. Then again Eric accepted Sheila with open arms and she threatened to snap Thomas' neck so he may get over it.

thewhiteowl · April 3, 2018

I wonder if Dolla could sink low enough to blackmail Steffy into marrying him with Liam being the shooter. That could be fun, she signs the papers marries Dolla then they find out it wasn't Liam after all. Delicious!

SimplePleasures · April 3, 2018

1 hour ago, slayer2 said:

I am so in love with A New Hope right now. Ughhhhh!

Girl, we've been cheering her from day one. She's exceptional and ditto! I'll bring the wine!

Invite me, too. I've liked her from the beginning and probably because I never really saw Kim Matula in the role even though I've kept up with The Bold and the Beautiful since its inception via Soap Opera Digest and an occasional recording via DVR.

Edited April 3, 2018 by SimplePleasures

ByTor · April 3, 2018

2 hours ago, slayer2 said:

I am so in love with A New Hope right now. Ughhhhh!

11 hours ago, ByTor said:

I really like her...I have since day 1...and honestly I could watch an entire episode during which Hope goes from room to room & lets people have it!

Girl, we've been cheering her from day one. She's exceptional and ditto! I'll bring the wine!

Sounds like a plan! I'll bring the chocolate! And please join us, @SimplePleasures! :)

Edited April 4, 2018 by ByTor

mightysparrow · April 4, 2018

I've always been Team Hope so I'm very happy that Annika is getting in the groove. For the longest time, I was disappointed because it looked like Hope had come back from Milan, unchanged. Well, who knew? Our girl picked up some street-fighting skills in Milano and she's not afraid to use them. What's even more wonderful is she's making $Bill do what SHE wants after years of him fucking up her life. I still want Hope to drop the 'happy family' crap, though. The best thing she can do for this baby is to rescue her father because the only chance of a stable home is the one Liam and HOPE provide.

I'll bring champagne!! Pink!!!

Edited April 4, 2018 by mightysparrow

ByTor · April 4, 2018

4 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

I'll bring champagne!! Pink!!!

Yay, it's a party! All we need to make it more fun is some truffle fries and plastic parachute men :)

grisgris · April 4, 2018

Covered! LOL!

nilyank · April 4, 2018

Hope is right. Steffy would use anything to get control of Liam including his daughter.

I have always liked Hope and Liam, so I would be happy to see them reunited. The fact that it would make Steffy's face crack will just be bonus points.

Waldo13 · April 4, 2018

Why did Ridge give Carter credit when Brooke was the driving force of his release. Yes Stuffy, Hope is with Liam so STFU. I really believe that Hope is in LOVE with Liam where Stuffy only loves the concept of being in love with Liam. Stuffy loves Stuffy more than anything.

Anna Yolei · April 4, 2018

I'm liking this new Hope with a backbone. As with Steffy, she kept it all about Bill's actions and not the five Mile laundry list she could have dug up on the way he's treated not just her, but her mother and aunt as well.

I should be pissed that Liam doesn't turn himself in but I really don't want baby Phoebe being stuck with only Steffy as her sole legal guardian* with Granddads Ridge and Bill pissing on one another and Bill started it. I wish Liam or whoever gaslighted him had better aim.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

*Because we all know Steffy ain't gonna raise the spawn once it becomes obvious that using her won't win him back.

Edited April 4, 2018 by Anna Yolei

Gam2 · April 4, 2018

I missed today’s show but from the very few comments left today, I guess nothing happened.

JD5166 · April 5, 2018

5 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I missed today’s show but from the very few comments left today, I guess nothing happened.

Well, Hope and Liam kissed at the end and even with her longish head and lazy eye, they have 1000 times more chemistry than Liam and the slag.

Joimiaroxeu · April 5, 2018

Wow, I liked Brooke's dress a lot. Very "ladies who lunch" and age-appropriate.

That FC crew never misses an opportunity to have an office party, do they? And to think that half the people there are still attempted murder suspects.

Hope, if Liam works with you at FC he'll be running into his relentlessly scheming wife every day. Is that really what you want?

Good grief. When a guy admits to you that he still loves his pregnant wife, the correct response is probably anything other than telling him you love him and trying to stick your tongue down his throat. I want to root for Hope but not if she's going to act desperate.

mightysparrow · April 5, 2018

Brad Bell has decided to give me my Christmas present early. Watching Hope slut-shaming Steffy and finally stake a claim for what's hers was incredible. That sound you heard during the airing of B&B was the pitchforks being sharpened. Steam fans are going to come after Hope HARD, which should be pretty interesting. When it looked like Sally was going to be a threat to Haudilox she was called everything from ugly to freakish to a 'prostitute'. Steam fans have hated Hope for much longer so I've no doubt they're going to place her on the grassy knoll in Dallas.

It was interesting to hear Liam say 'what if I love my wife?'. I seem to recall Liam telling his wife that he hated her and never wanted to be with her again. I also remember some annulment papers. Liam just can't help himself. He can't help but toying with a woman's affections. Hope better shut that shit down with a quickness.

I fast-forwarded through most of Ridge's 'victory' party since it most of the attendees really hate Ridge. I can't believe that Ridge ignored all the work Brooke put in to get his grubby ass free and praised Carter instead. Carter, who admitted that the case wasn't going that well minutes before the good detective stalked in and told Ridge to get out of jail, free.

Hauxdilox' spidey senses are tingling; she knows her property is in danger. I can't wait for her to find out that Hope has made her move!!!

grisgris · April 5, 2018

Best lines of the day:

Katie: "I am so glad that you married my sister."

Sludge: "Why?"

Katie: "So she can pick out your clothes again!"

Sludge (tugs on his rumpled lapels and looks indignant) : "What's wrong with the way I dress?"

Have you got a few days?

So, yeah ... most of the show was wasted on a pointless "Get Out of Jail Free" surprise party for Greaseball. How many f'ing parties have been held for him now? He's got to be a close second if not having surpassed Hope's parties several years ago.

Other tidbits:

Joking remark to Wyatt: "So you're going to be arrested next?"

Most likely.

Then all of the remarks of how FC "ran itself" in Sludge and Hauxdi's absence and a CEO wasn't needed. Thorne was leading the charge there with Maya firmly in his corner.

I won't argue with that.

Carter getting all melancholy and waxing about how Sludge is like "an older brother" to him. If he keeps working that angle and suggests that Eric is "like a father," who knows? Eric might adopt him, too! A grown-ass man can't have too many fathers. Just ask Mushmouth.

If you made it through all of the GarBridge barf-bag filler, the good stuff was at the very end.

Business first. Liam made an appointment to get his head examined -- literally. Sounds like he's having a CAT scan and psycho-neurological testing.

I was shocked, as well, when Liam told Hope that he still loved Steffy. Then Hope was off. She was the gift that just kept giving. I was fist-pumping when she brought up Aspen and how Bill and Steffy conspired to trap her in the gondola. She laid it all out ... how alike Steffy and Bill were ... how they used Liam as a wedge to keep them apart (I guess as to not hurt Katie and Will.) How Steffy is going to use the baby as a weapon. Liam listened but I am not sure how much it was absorbed. I can see the waffle squares starting to take shape again.

Hope's message would have made more impact if she had somehow managed to keep her personal agenda out of it. She really laid out a good case in illustrating the years of manipulation and lies by Steffy and Bill and how Liam is suffering so badly at their hands. She also tried to convince him that the future would hold more of the same.

BUT ... if he would DIVORCE Steffy and start over with Hope ... Then she got all emotional and told him she'd always loved him ... blah blah blah ... and kissed him. She just gave all of her power over to him. All that was left was to bind the package with the raggedly red ribbon of commitment because that is probably about as much as she is going to get now.

Hauxdi was pacing around the reception area of FC whilst people pointedly asked where Hope was. I sense she was ready to don her broom and head over to Hotel California to have it out with Hope. Are there any motorcycles that happen to be sitting around?

I didn't like Maya's wig and While Brooke's dress was pretty, I thought she looked matronly in it. I'll bet IR now knows how WH felt being brought on for family gatherings and whining about Ridge being in charge. At least we were spared from Rick's pouting as well. IR bugs me in that he says, "FAR-ester." Ugh.