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GRRRrrrr ... Ugh. I just can't with Brooke. Get a grip, woman! I can't believe she spent Christmas crying over that loser and then sent him a Merry Christmas text! FFS! Doesn't she have a single scrap of pride and self-worth? You know? If she's that pathetic, she deserves to get her heart broken. 

And boring Taylor was even dressed in a boring beige dress. And I was gobsmacked by her hypocritical toast and speech. To "love, acceptance, openness." I hope that Brooke and Carter blow up FC as a multi-billion-dollar luxury brand and there is no return for Ridge and Steffy. (I secretly think Eric would come around at the whiff of success.) Let sanctimonious Tridge trio, lap dog Finn, and Zende got out and try to launch a competing fashion house and fall flat on their faces.

Ridge would have been shown the front door as soon as he called my daughter a bitch and a s***. The Logan Christmas should have been spent toasting to their success and plotting their next moves in the FC takedown. 

Yeah. Bah, humbug on Christmas Eve, B&B!

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Merry Christmas to all my fellow posters!

And just like that, my excitement has evaporated.

It looks like we will have a retread, of a retread, of another retread, that was a retread of a prior retread.

SHOW, we have seen this so many times before. How long will we be subjected to Brooke weeping and moping about this time? And once Zende spills the beans, Ridge will not be able to get to Brooke quick enough to say how sorry he is, and Brooke will cry out of both eyes and fall into his arms.

Good God woman, this man called your daughter, a person he raised as his own for many years, a bitch and a slut. Outside of him being fully aware of how that word affects you, is the fact he used it against your child. Then he went on to essentially tell you that you, and your entire family are trash. I guess that would include his son and his father’s wife. He compounded those insults by bellowing how you have betrayed him, as he had just come down from sexing up his Jock Rider. That is bad enough, but worse is his automatic assumption that you have gone to the dark side. Why won’t Brooke see that every time something happens, Ridge always jumps to the wrong conclusion and runs to Steffy and JR to be reassured that he is right about her? And if Zende does come clean and Ridge believes him, that will also be a slap in Brooke’s face because she tried to tell him herself, but he was so full of man pain and butt hurt, that he couldn’t be bothered to listen or believe her.

And don't get me started on how Ridge dressed Brooke down, acting as if she was some upstart intern, that he and his vaunted family had "helped" become a success. This is when I would have spun his greasy head around with the slap heard around the world. Forrester Creations would not be the fashion house it is today without BeLief. Nuff fucking said. 

I don’t care who’s side you are on, this writing sets women back 1000 years. Neither woman has a shred of self-respect or dignity. They have been fighting this battle for over thirty years, and no one ever comes out the winner except Ridge. It’s insulting and appalling.

On a lighter note, I was shopping for some thermals for Mr. R and came across this:

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4 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

And if Zende does come clean and Ridge believes him, that will also be a slap in Brooke’s face because she tried to tell him herself, but he was so full of man pain and butt hurt, that he couldn’t be bothered to listen or believe her.

This. After last time, when his man pain wouldn't allow him to have a direct and honest conversation with Brooke about the CPS call, you'd think he would have learned something. But there Brooke is, telling him "I did this for you," and he won't stop venting his sad aggrieved little spleen long enough to ask her to explain what she means when she says she did it for him.  So to, on top of that, have him end up listening to someone else and then go running to her? I hope she tells him "no, I tried to tell you, and you wouldn't listen to me. The fact that you did listen to someone else just shows how little respect you actually have for me." And then send his ass packing. 

I wouldn't even have a problem with her continuing to do what she thinks is right, and get the company back to Eric (with some caveats about keeping Bitch in a Box and her daddy away from Hope and her line). As long as she tells Ridge that, romantically, he can go fuck himself, or his limp beige dishrag, because, on a personal level, she is so fucking done with him. 

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5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Merry Christmas to all my fellow posters!

And just like that, my excitement has evaporated.

It looks like we will have a retread, of a retread, of another retread, that was a retread of a prior retread.

SHOW, we have seen this so many times before. How long will we be subjected to Brooke weeping and moping about this time? And once Zende spills the beans, Ridge will not be able to get to Brooke quick enough to say how sorry he is, and Brooke will cry out of both eyes and fall into his arms.

Good God woman, this man called your daughter, a person he raised as his own for many years, a bitch and a slut. Outside of him being fully aware of how that word affects you, is the fact he used it against your child. Then he went on to essentially tell you that you, and your entire family are trash. I guess that would include his son and his father’s wife. He compounded those insults by bellowing how you have betrayed him, as he had just come down from sexing up his Jock Rider. That is bad enough, but worse is his automatic assumption that you have gone to the dark side. Why won’t Brooke see that every time something happens, Ridge always jumps to the wrong conclusion and runs to Steffy and JR to be reassured that he is right about her? And if Zende does come clean and Ridge believes him, that will also be a slap in Brooke’s face because she tried to tell him herself, but he was so full of man pain and butt hurt, that he couldn’t be bothered to listen or believe her.

And don't get me started on how Ridge dressed Brooke down, acting as if she was some upstart intern, that he and his vaunted family had "helped" become a success. This is when I would have spun his greasy head around with the slap heard around the world. Forrester Creations would not be the fashion house it is today without BeLief. Nuff fucking said. 

I don’t care who’s side you are on, this writing sets women back 1000 years. Neither woman has a shred of self-respect or dignity. They have been fighting this battle for over thirty years, and no one ever comes out the winner except Ridge. It’s insulting and appalling.

On a lighter note, I was shopping for some thermals for Mr. R and came across this:

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Holy shit!  Carter drew me back in here. 😜

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You know, I was thinking about how the TK Ridge is really cruel & verbally abusive in a way I don’t remember Ron Moss’s Ridge ever being.  Am I remembering wrong?  I mean, sure he was totally self-absorbed & thoughtless, but would RM have ever said he thought Brooke’s daughter was a “worthless sl*t?

Brooke seems to have either forgotten and/or forgiven that Ridge called her daughter a “worthless sl*t”.  Uh, why?  And since the only one she told about it is Katie cuz she has no friends, I guess Show will forget about it too.  Wow, that is lame.

What’s also lame is the idea Show has enforced that both Brooke & Taylor believe.they MUST be with Ridge FOREVER, no matter how badly he treats them.  I blame the writers for this misogynist crap, encouraging women to desire someone who is abusive to them — and tolerate the continued abuse, and believe in some mistaken romantic idea it should go on forever,  Ew, really gross stuff.

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1 minute ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

You know, I was thinking about how the TK Ridge is really cruel & verbally abusive in a way I don’t remember Ron Moss’s Ridge ever being.  Am I remembering wrong?

No, you’re not wrong. This Pod!Ridge might as well be a different character. He has no charm, no sophistication, and definitely no sexiness that Ron Moss’s Ridge had in spades.

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"Now that Lawrence Saint-Victor is writing for The Bold and the Beautiful as well as playing Carter . . ." (Soaps Charlie Mason 12/24/24) Am I the first to find this out - the actor who plays Carter is also writing for the show - EGAD!

Sorry….read too quick and read this as Charlie (Charles) Manson!!!  🤪

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Finally some forward-movement in the Electra story. Good on Ivy, sitting there, sipping her wine, side-eyeing that creeper Remi. She’s always entertaining.  I’m glad Electra saw the pix, it was sooner than I expected. 
 

Guess when you reeeeeeallllllly love someone, you make a shrine of them in the bathroom. I figured it was in the bedroom, but when she saw it in the mirror, I was legit surprised. I wonder how she’s going to get out of there, because you know he’ll high-tail it up there the second he finds out Deacon inexplicably sent her up there. If it’d been nutter Sheila that sent Electra up, I would’ve assumed she sat that up on purpose, knowing what was in the bathroom. 

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Oh no, Brooke, not that “we belong together” crap!  Really?  So because you “belong” with him, that’s justification for him to cheat on you & call your daughter “a worthless sl*t”?  What a fool.

Hope, coffee tables are not for sitting on, hun.

Why’d Remy almost completely ignore Ivy, other than accusing her of firing Electra, with a sneer.  Looked like Ivy’s radar was beeping on Remy.

Muted any scenes with Ridge & Steffy cuz I can’t take those 2.

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Why are they making Brooke so stupid? Your destiny shouldn’t go running to his other baby mama the minute something bad happens. I hate this Ridge, he’s a no good pig who has shit on Brooke for years. They need to bring in someone new for her. 
Goodness Remy the creeper is creepy! I was hoping Aunt Ivy would shut his arrogant ass up. 
 

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4 hours ago, nkotb said:

Finally some forward-movement in the Electra story. Good on Ivy, sitting there, sipping her wine, side-eyeing that creeper Remi. She’s always entertaining.  I’m glad Electra saw the pix, it was sooner than I expected.

It seems like they're going out of their way to make sure there's absolute no suspense in any of these stories. I'm guessing Will will rescue Electra before New Years Eve.

And when did Ivy get hot dog lips? Good grief. No wonder Remy couldn't look at her.

I don't like this FC story at all. I don't like Sludge treating Brooke so badly. And I don't like Brooke being saddled with him. But I'm sort of rooting for her to get him if that's what she wants. Although it's like watching her eat out of a garbage can. 

I guess RJ has ceased to exist and everyone's memories were wiped clean as far as he was concerned. But why wasn't Charlie, (the head of security at FC, not Manson), at the xmas gathering with Pam?

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Why did I watch today? I was doing so well with no watching this show for months.

Electra had issues back home over creepy pics? Why doesn't she think that might have pop up here in the US and think that might be why she was fired?

Safety-net? How romantic. That is on the same romantic level as giving someone a red string instead of an engagement ring,

Sure Steffy all the times Brook broke Ridge's heart the last 5 years or so:

  • the LLC to take over Forresters? oh right Brook told him the moment she found out
  • calling child services on Thomas? no that was creepy Thomas
  • kissing Deacon? happened when Sheila switched the nonalcoholic champagne with alcoholic and his two safety-net child knew about it but kept quiet
  • getting drunk and getting "married" to Shauna? nope that was Ridge
  • playing kissing face with stepmom Quinn to get rid of her but ended up doing more kissy face with her? Ridge
  • this was more than 5 years ago, but having a huge hissy fit that Brook was in contact with Deacon in regards to their daughter and basically ending the marriage because of said hissy fit? dummy Ridge

I am sure there are other times but at least for the most part since TK's Ridge and Brook has been together. either he messed upt or his safety-net children have interfered in their relationship.

Steffy can continue to egg on her parents together. It will be all the more hilarious when mommy gets dumped and suddenly needs to leave town again. Maybe Steffy can finally get angry at her mother for always leaving town and Steffy because her feelings about Ridge are more important than her children and grandchildren.

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If I were Brooke I would buy a dildo to replace Ridge.  Besides being more satisfying, it’s not a condescending ass hole besides not being grandiose delusional.  

I’m wondering what Electra saw in Remy’s room was a life size Electra mannequin like Thomas had of Hope.  

Katie, that wonderful magnificent public relations guru would not even realize there are AI deep fakes on the internet. As I said before, Katie received the pictures in an email and not a link on the internet. 

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So Ridge more or less confided/confirmed to Steffy today that wrung-out beige dishrag (and also the Taytots) is Ridge's "safety net" when things go south with Brooke.  Does he need to hire a skywriter over Beverly Hills to get Taylor to get it through her thick skull and BHS that she is always his second choice and backup? Then, idiot Steffy rewarded him with a hug. 

Now it sounds like Brooke is going to forego the CEO position to keep the butt-hurt man-baby happy. I am not sure that's actually going to happen, but it sure sounded like it when Brooke was talking to Hope. Brooke could be throwing away a wonderful career opportunity just because Widgey got his feelings hurt.  I belie(f)ve Brooke will do a lot of good things for FC, regardless of who is in charge.

Where was this sage wisdom from Hope during her entanglements with Thomas, Liam, and (almost) Finn?

I truly believe the writers hate women and write them to be pathetic Stepford Wives with no dignity, self-worth, intuition, or agency to function without a MAN. Or, to objectify them as in the case of Electra and cyber-stalker Remy.

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2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

I guess RJ has ceased to exist and everyone's memories were wiped clean as far as he was concerned. But why wasn't Charlie, (the head of security at FC, not Manson), at the xmas gathering with Pam?

I don't think Pam and Charlie are together anymore.  They were engaged, and then for some reason Quinn planted seeds of doubt in one of their minds and the wedding was called off.  It all seemed pointless and cruel.  Last we saw, Charlie was macking on Esther Valentine.

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Both Brooke and Taylor needed to hear that "safety net" conversation.  It really says so much about his relationships with both women. And I laughed at Steffy being moved to hug him after he said that. She truly does not care about what is best for her mother. She just wants mommy and daddy together, come hell or high water. 

Good Lord, Brooke. So, you want to hand wave him, once again, going right to Taylor's bed as soon as any issue pops up, as just a little, what? Misunderstanding?  Oh, no, wait, that's what they call rape on this show. A little bump in the road? Way to reinforce for Ridge that he can just keep doing this shit until the day he dies, and that you and Taylor will always be the willing participants, taking his dick however you can get it, no expectation that he'll live up to any kind of bare minimum standards. Jesus. 

When Brooke said it hurt like Hope can't imagine, or something along those lines, I wanted Hope to be like "um, mom? Do you remember when Liam saw Thomas kissing a mannequin and slept with Steffy instead of talking to me about it? I can imagine. Very easily."  But, that would be bringing up something bad Steffy has done in the past, and this show doesn't do that. 

I've noticed they've changed how they do JMW's hair and makeup recently. Are they trying to make her look younger because she and RB look like contemporaries instead of mother and daughter?  Because it's not working. All they've really accomplished is making her look more like Hunter Tylo. 

Katie, you don't need to tell Will why you fired Electra, but you absolutely need to talk to Electra and answer her questions. Despite all that's going on now, Eric is your BIL and friend, and this is his niece. Have an honest conversation with her about this. Also, even beyond the work issue, you owe her a woman to woman conversation about those pictures being sent to you. You should be well aware that there are so many women out there who have no idea that their naked pictures are floating around out there. Electra deserves that information just because she has a right to know that someone is sending nudes of her to anyone. Of course, you should also be aware of the possibility of AI generated fake nudes. Which is another reason to make Electra aware of the pictures. 

And, Electra, being reminded of the fake nudes while you're bemoaning being fired for not fitting the company image should have raised a little bit of a red flag for you. If those pictures harmed your image and relationships back home, wouldn't you think it's possible that they're doing the same in L.A.? 

I love that Ivy could smell the creepy wafting off of Remy. 

Can Sheila just go away for some reason?  I don't care if she dies, becomes obsessed with some random customer passing through town and follows them out of town, commits another crime and gets locked up, kills Steffy and has to go on the run, or just gets bored with her existing life and cuts out. Anything to make Deacon single again. There are multiple women on the canvas who he'd be good with, and SK has chemistry with the freaking props and scenery. 

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I hate listening to Steffy deliver her high handed droppings of wisdom on people, always using that pompous tone that indicates she is as perceptive as a mountaintop sage and her word is the gospel. Her analysis of people and relationships is consistently terrible, yet we keep having to hear it. If Steffy is dragging someone for filth, you can bet your life savings that she’ll describe them as others would describe her. No self awareness whatsoever.  Her obsession with her parents reuniting demands an intervention, but Steffy has worshippers, not real friends.

The stalkerish intensity of Remy is so off putting. Ivy should tell Steffy he’s a long lost cousin.

Hey, Brad Bell, it’s okay for a woman to have self respect. It’s not actually romantic to long for some faithless asshole who unloads misogynist venom on your daughter. Brooke’s behavior is pathetic and depressing. Whining about Ridge to the daughter he called a slut and a bitch is not a good look. 

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No Brooke today.  She’s busy telling Ridge he can carry on with both her & Taylor, & that’s just fine and dandy with both of ‘em.  And maybe he should add some more women too — and she’ll be fine with that cuz Ridge is “the only man for her”.  Yup, that’s the show Bell wants to give us.  Yech.

Ah, this show & its fetish for women being kidnapped, assaulted & stalked.  More misogyny?  How lovely.  Thanks, Bell.  Yech again.

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$ Bill, what the heck are you visiting Luna-tic for?  She’s a murderer.  She ruthlessly killed people & yes, she is where she belongs. So she got beat up — so what’s $ Bill supposed to do about it?  I don’t get where any of this is going.  And her blaming her mother & her upbringing for her murdering people is ridiculous & idiotic.

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This is so fucking stupid. Katie shows the pictures to Carter and Hope and she admits she only got an anonymous email.  They are not on the internet but as a precaution, Electra is fired. Isn’t her name already associated with FC. PR Katie should be good enough to spin those photos if they ever got out. 

 

So finally Will gets to see the pictures of Electra and immediately recognizes them as AI deep fakes but is Katie going to give 💩💩, and admit she’s wrong. 

 

Brooke not coming to the meeting today was included in her plan to win back FC for “Mr Wonderful”. 

 

It turns out that Remy is actually Thomas Jr.  

 

 

The main thing I’ve learned today is that Electra and Luna are excellent actors and should be given more airtime than Stuffy or Taylor.  

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50 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

$ Bill, what the heck are you visiting Luna-tic for?  She’s a murderer.  She ruthlessly killed people & yes, she is where she belongs. So she got beat up — so what’s $ Bill supposed to do about it?  I don’t get where any of this is going.  And her blaming her mother & her upbringing for her murdering people is ridiculous & idiotic.

In my opinion, as much as I liked crazy Luna, the only reason to bring her back on is if they're going to revisit the paternity story and reveal that Finn is her father. I do not want to see a Luna/Bill romantic pairing, and I just don't see the storyline value in him getting her out of prison to play daddy/daughter again. Poppy and Li barely exist anymore.  Honestly, having Luna be the killer and kidnap Steffy for the glorious Bitch in a Box fun mostly works best if she's Finn's daughter and Sheila's granddaughter.  

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3 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

In my opinion, as much as I liked crazy Luna, the only reason to bring her back on is if they're going to revisit the paternity story and reveal that Finn is her father

As I read this I was thinking: Who’s Finn? Do you mean Bill? Then I remembered: OHHH, @KerleyQ means Steffy’s huzzzzband!🤣🤣🤣🤣

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6 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

As I read this I was thinking: Who’s Finn? Do you mean Bill? Then I remembered: OHHH, @KerleyQ means Steffy’s huzzzzband!🤣🤣🤣🤣

He might actually be Finn again if they give him something to do that brings him out from the innermost depths of Steffy's asshole. 

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Good Lord, how many people has Katie showed those pictures to without showing them to Electra?  And, again, with the slut-shaming. "Sorry, Will, she's not the nice sweet girl you thought she was."  Fuck off, with that shit, show. 

Electra, just scream as loud as you can. Someone in the restaurant will hear you. 

Any chance Luna didn't get someone to beat her up to play on Bill's sympathies? And, for fuck's sake, Bill, how are you getting taken in by her playing you a second time? You're Bill Fucking Spencer. 

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2 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Good Lord, how many people has Katie showed those pictures to without showing them to Electra?  And, again, with the slut-shaming. "Sorry, Will, she's not the nice sweet girl you thought she was."  Fuck off, with that shit, show. 

Electra, just scream as loud as you can. Someone in the restaurant will hear you. 

Any chance Luna didn't get someone to beat her up to play on Bill's sympathies? And, for fuck's sake, Bill, how are you getting taken in by her playing you a second time? You're Bill Fucking Spencer. 

Exactly what I was thinkin’ about Luna-tic.  I don’t trust her for a sec.  And despite DD looking great for his age, he’s still like 40 years older than her.  An older man gettin’ played by a way younger girl?  Uh, that I could believe.

Interesting that Will could tell instantly the pics were AI fakes & Katie couldn’t.  Was it cuz he’s a Gen Z’er & more tech savvy . . . or is he familiar with Electra’s body?  Hmmm.

So did Electra say to Remy that he had done this before?  If so, then why was she being so nice to him?  Why didn’t she tell him to get lost?  Sheesh, this is dumb!  So was Deacon giving Electra the key to Remy’s room.  Piss poor writing.

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On 12/27/2024 at 11:15 AM, SweePea59 said:

And when did Ivy get hot dog lips? Good grief. No wonder Remy couldn't look at her.

    Ashleigh Brewer has always had full lips, especially her lower lip. If you look at pics of her younger self, you'll see her lips look the same as they do now.

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7 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

 Was it cuz he’s a Gen Z’er & more tech savvy . . . or is he familiar with Electra’s body?

I'm a baby boomer and even an old dinosaur like me would question the authenticity of those pictures, since I'm aware enough to know that AI can do all sorts of weird and not-so-wonderful things, but my answer to your question would be because Will is both more tech savvy and is familiar with, at the very least, Electra's general body shape - plus AI isn't always successful at not revealing where the "cut and paste" lines are for a different head on a different body.

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11 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So did Electra say to Remy that he had done this before?  If so, then why was she being so nice to him?  Why didn’t she tell him to get lost?  Sheesh, this is dumb!  So was Deacon giving Electra the key to Remy’s room.  Piss poor writing.

I think she was just piecing together that he did this back in Dallas, not that she knew before that moment that he was the one who did it back then. 

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Still not gettin’ where they’re going with this Luna-tic stuff.  A female Oz storyline is of no interest to me.  Oh $Bill, walk out & don’t look back.  Buh-bye, Luna-tic.

Still say Remy ain’t bad lookin’, & the actress playing Electra is better than I thought.

Despite what she later said, Katie & her puzzled looks seemed like she never heard of AI. Uh, not a great choice for a PR leader.

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As dumb as this Luna sidebar is, I'm always happy to see that cute lil psycho on my screen actually ACTING with some ability. I know she's running a con, but I'm getting sucked into her sob story. 

I guess Remy's reign of creep is almost over...how does he come back from this? Poor Deacon, down yet ANOTHER staff member. 

Katie can stiff her sorries in a sack.

I'm glad no Ridge or Ridge adjacent stories, and I'm eternally grateful.  

 

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If Katie is not savvy enough to recognize a deep fake then she has no business being the head of PR.  Now Katie covers her ass by finally says she knows about deep fakes and just jumped to conclusions. 

 

I had to laugh when Remy thought things would be better in NY 😂.  He’s not only a psycho but he’s down right an idiot.  

 

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Not only was Katie not savvy enough to recognize a deep fake, but even when it was pointed out to her, she was all "but that's her face!" That was embarrassing. 

Electra, scream already. That apartment is pretty close to the restaurant, someone will hear you, and Deacon knows where you went. 

Luna is laying it on so thick that it's going to be ridiculous when Bill fully buys it and most likely helps get her out of jail. "If I stay here, I'm going to end up dead." I mean, come on. I had a tiny ray of hope when he asked her to tell him what happened with Tom and Hollis, like he was trying to record her confessing all the details. But I fear that tiny ray of hope was wildly misplaced. I like Luna, but I don't want the story that brings her back onto the canvas to be stupid and make Bill look stupid. 

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1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

 

I had to laugh when Remy thought things would be better in NY 😂.  He’s not only a psycho but he’s down right an idiot.  

 

 

That had me laughing, too.  LA is so horrible and full of superficial losers...but yes, the egalitarian paradise that is NYC will solve all your problems.   Dude was certifiable off that line alone.  

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