Christine Brown Woolley: Nacho Sister Wife Anymore

[Rainflower]

On 8/12/2017 at 11:10 PM, AZChristian said:

That's an old video from when they still lived in Utah and she was pregnant with Truely.  Given the fairly common knowledge that she was still on food stamps the first season of the show, that's technically OUR pantry full of food.

So Christine knew how to work but preferred to sit on her butt while not only taking money from her "husband" and sister wives but also from the government as well? And pumping out kids she and the other Brown adults struggled to care for. Lovely.

[xwordfanatik]

Bleeding the beast.  Plyg for living off the mean ol' gov'mint that won't legalize their "marriages."

It seems the Browns were no different in that respect, than the FLDS compounds that wear braids and prairie dresses, and have a zillion kids.

[Galloway Cave]

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

Plyg for living off the mean ol' gov'mint that won't legalize their "marriages."

They don't WANT the government to legalize their marriages because then they can't bleed the beast. They just want their spiritual marriages decriminalized, meaning they don't want laws that make spiritual marriages or living with multiple woman as wives, illegal. They don't want to be prosecuted for having a spiritual marriage. Utah and Arizona have already agreed not to do that despite having those laws. The Browns know that but continue to bleat about it on their shit show.

[xwordfanatik]

@Galloway Cave, you're right.  They use it as an excuse, that they're so persecuted, when they're not.  Christine has talked about her grandfather being jailed, but that was what?  1950's?  I never bought the moving to Vegas thing was because Utah was going to prosecute them.  It looked to me like a storyline and another excuse.  Drama sells.

[lettsjetts]

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

@Galloway Cave, you're right.  They use it as an excuse, that they're so persecuted, when they're not.  Christine has talked about her grandfather being jailed, but that was what?  1950's?  I never bought the moving to Vegas thing was because Utah was going to prosecute them.  It looked to me like a storyline and another excuse.  Drama sells.

Here is an interview they did with Access Hollywood talking about the real reason for the move. They were not forced out of Utah and there was no threat to them at all.  You are right, drama sells! 

http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/access-hollywood-live-is-the-sister-wives-clan-running-from-the-law-26649/

[TurtlePower]

59 minutes ago, lettsjetts said:

Here is an interview they did with Access Hollywood talking about the real reason for the move. They were not forced out of Utah and there was no threat to them at all.  You are right, drama sells! 

http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/access-hollywood-live-is-the-sister-wives-clan-running-from-the-law-26649/

I recall from an episode hearing that Kody always wanted to live in Vegas. Doesn't look like that move is doing them any favors. They have grown heavier and haggard physically but hey, what's a show without the drama? 

[andromeda331]

3 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

@Galloway Cave, you're right.  They use it as an excuse, that they're so persecuted, when they're not.  Christine has talked about her grandfather being jailed, but that was what?  1950's?  I never bought the moving to Vegas thing was because Utah was going to prosecute them.  It looked to me like a storyline and another excuse.  Drama sells.

Don't forget her bring up her grandfather being shot when he was shot by another polygamist.

[Galloway Cave]

And she also thought her plyg childhood family was all puppies and rainbows and lollipops ("I want the fambly, not just the man"). But her mother Anne thought it was so horrible she not only left the marriage, she left polygamy and joined an organization that helps people leave polygamy too. Rose-colored Glasses Christine.

[AnnieBeez]

12 hours ago, Rainflower said:

So Christine knew how to work but preferred to sit on her butt while not only taking money from her "husband" and sister wives but also from the government as well? And pumping out kids she and the other Brown adults struggled to care for. Lovely.

Wow wow wow. I thought she was taking care of her children, not sitting on her butt. How much could she have made? How much would daycare have cost her? 

[Rainflower]

13 hours ago, MissHavisham said:

Wow wow wow. I thought she was taking care of her children, not sitting on her butt. How much could she have made? How much would daycare have cost her? 

Oh how cute. Hold on to your pearls ladies (and your hats, gents) because Rainflower is going in:

Wow wow wow. I thought she was taking care of her children, not sitting on her butt.

Apparently, a mother cannot care for her kids and work at the same time. I am a stay at home mom with two young ones. I don't spend my ENTIRE day watching or teaching them. But here goes nothing:

1. First off, my comment was in regard to her being on government assistance. Though I do want to revise my comment. She wasn't on her butt. She was spread eagle and was impregnated before she slithered her scared "married" polygamous behind to the government assistance office.

2. I am from a Catholic area. People in those parts had (and are still having) large families. So I know people who are from both single and two parents home who work their behinds off, pay their taxes and never been on government assistance or file for bankruptcy.

How much could she have made?

Well, the world will never know, now will we? It seems to me that you don't know ANYONE who have children, don't have a university degree but was able to find a job. It is IMPOSSIBLE for such a person to exist. Christine, along with the rest of us, live in the technology age. She could have sold things on Ebay, Amazon, started her own business. There were/are freelancing sites, etc. She didn't have or need to leave her home. I am sure the younger kids took a nap and the older kids could have done something on their own while she worked online. 

Online wasn't her thing? 

She and her family could have considered jobs that revolved around their kids' lives so that someone would always be home with the kids. There were FOUR adults. I seen families with only TWO parents do something like this.

There were a ton of things FOUR adults who all consider themselves family, living under ONE roof could have done to earn money. However, it was easier for them to just file bankruptcies and get Christine to go on government assistance.

So yes, I will call it being lazy. 

How much would daycare have cost her? 

Little to nothing. Again, the Brown family have the advantage of FOUR (and later FIVE) adults. That means there are around 8+ grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. If the extended family did not want to or could not watch the Brown kids, the adults could have worked in shifts. Or planned their family better. Did Janelle and Christine really need all those kids? If they wanted all those kids, why didn't they work and save up BEFORE popping them out? Couldn't do it before, why not space the pregnancy out further apart. 

So come again? Tell me how freaking hard it is to be Christine. A SAHM with a WORKING husband and 2-3 WORKING sister wives while there are hundreds, if not thousands of single parents and couples who are working their asses off every freaking day, pay their taxes, and don't or cannot get government assistance. 

[Kohola3]

Again, Rainflower, right on. 

And since she fancies herself the Earth Goddess Mother Type, open a day care for the rest of the poly families around.  Wouldn't cost her anything and she could make additional money that way.  The whole "I went to school to be a Realtor but, oops, I won't work weekends so never mind" crap just made me nauseated.  Deadbeat, lazy ass welfare cheat.

[lettsjetts]

Thank you Rainflower for this post!  I am a stay at home mom right now but I promise you that if our financial situation changed I would be looking for work immediately.  Government assistance is meant to help those in emergencies get themselves back on track, shame on the Brown family for taking advantage.  

[xwordfanatik]

Yes, I agree, @Rainflower,  Mr. Xword and I worked opposite shifts for years so one of us would be home for our daughter.  We had blue collar jobs that sucked, but we were self-supporting, and we weren't dependent on babysitters, since our parents lived over 100 miles away.  There are many, many couples that do what we did, and many, many single parents that provide for their kids without public assistance or bankruptcies.  It gave our daughter a solid work ethic, and she worked from high school through college, to support herself, and we were happy to help with costs when needed.

The Brown kids so far have shown way more promise than the parents.  I hope it continues.

[andromeda331]

So much of her life are stories she made up and that is just so bizarre. I also question how much Christine was actually watching the kids too. Yes, they show us a little in the first episode I think. But for a stay at home mom to all the kids, she wasn't making breakfast for Janelle's kids. Logan, one of the actual kids had to get up early and make breakfast for his kids until viewers questioned it and then suddenly Christine was the one making breakfast. Why wasn't she doing that from the beginning since she was the stay at home Mom? Why does it seem like Logan and Aspyn were the ones doing most of the work taking care of the kids if they had a stay at home mom? Why did Christine need to move her mom into help? Her kids are either in college or in school she shouldn't need any help. 

I almost forgot Christine also has said that she wanted to be the third wife. Convenient that the one who "wanted the family" picked out the third wife. Not a first wife or a second wife. She was betting on being the last wife. She'd get all of the fun of being the newest, last wife. 

Edited August 16, 2017 by andromeda331
I almost forgot

[Rainflower]

On 8/16/2017 at 0:56 AM, andromeda331 said:

So much of her life are stories she made up and that is just so bizarre. I also question how much Christine was actually watching the kids too. Yes, they show us a little in the first episode I think. But for a stay at home mom to all the kids, she wasn't making breakfast for Janelle's kids. Logan, one of the actual kids had to get up early and make breakfast for his kids until viewers questioned it and then suddenly Christine was the one making breakfast.

Yep. So it wasn't like Christine was taking care of ALL those kids on her own 24/7. She had help. 

 

And I am going to drop this right here:

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct/16/q-kody-brown-and-his-sister-wives/

Quote

 

What are your views of patriarchy and feminism? Polygamy is often seen as a patriarchy and bad for women.

Janelle: Patriarchy has a very negative connotation for me. It's true that Kody is the glue that holds us together, but I definitely have my voice. I feel very liberated. I have a career, my independence and freedom. I've never had to stay at home with sick kids or worry too much about what's for dinner. I can have my cake, and eat it too.

Meri: I agree. I've become so independent in some ways.

Christine, a homemaker: I feel our family is very patriarchal, but it's exactly what I wanted. I just want to be a princess in life.

 

[TurtlePower]

Why is this article appearing to be new? It's from 2012: "By Paul Takahashi Tue, Oct 16, 2012 (11 a.m.)"

Odd that the Sun is revisiting this, unless I missed something (that's entirely possible, I was up at 4 am). 

[andromeda331]

6 hours ago, Rainflower said:

Yep. So it wasn't like Christine was taking care of ALL those kids on her own 24/7. She had help. 

 

And I am going to drop this right here:

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct/16/q-kody-brown-and-his-sister-wives/

So Janelle wanted work and not take care of her kids or cook and Christine didn't want to do anything at all? We know Meri was always quitting jobs to take off with Kody How lovely for all the kids they had.

[ginger90]

At the time of the article, Meri HAD this:

 

Meri: I'm the legal wife, so I have the power to pull the plug. But I take into account what my sister wives have to say. I don't see me having any more power than they do.

[xwordfanatik]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

At the time of the article, Meri HAD this:

 

Meri: I'm the legal wife, so I have the power to pull the plug. But I take into account what my sister wives have to say. I don't see me having any more power than they do.

That's a laugh.  She milked that distinction for all it was worth, I'll bet.  Until Robyn usurped her, then she went trolling on the internet for another guy.

I think their "lifestyle choice" sucks, but especially for Janelle and Christine.  Christine was raised in it, so it's sort of understandable, but Janelle?  Nuts.

Meri's brother must be a real piece of work, to have made Kody attractive to Janelle.  Then to get treated like shit by Meri?  I can't even fathom.

[andromeda331]

37 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

That's a laugh.  She milked that distinction for all it was worth, I'll bet.  Until Robyn usurped her, then she went trolling on the internet for another guy.

I think their "lifestyle choice" sucks, but especially for Janelle and Christine.  Christine was raised in it, so it's sort of understandable, but Janelle?  Nuts.

Meri's brother must be a real piece of work, to have made Kody attractive to Janelle.  Then to get treated like shit by Meri?  I can't even fathom.

Ah, yes trolling for that gorgeous rich millionaire who was going to sweep her off her feet. Because Meri lives in Fantasyland (although all the Brown adults seem to reside in Fantasyland). 

[NotEatingKale]

On 8/14/2017 at 4:42 PM, lettsjetts said:

Here is an interview they did with Access Hollywood talking about the real reason for the move. They were not forced out of Utah and there was no threat to them at all.  You are right, drama sells! 

http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/access-hollywood-live-is-the-sister-wives-clan-running-from-the-law-26649/

Oh my god... I am infuriated... How the hell can they sit there and be like, "Oh, no charges were filed against us. We also didn't move because we were scared we would be charged. We just liked the weather in LV and had went there for vacations and stuff."

LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THERE ARE ENTIRE EPISODES OF THEIR SHOW THAT CONTRADICT THAT

Didn't they tell their kids they were moving about three days before the move, so that nobody found out and alerted authorities ahead of time? Wasn't Christine crying to the camera about her family history of prosecution? If they weren't moving because of anticipatory charges, I don't understand how they could sit there and watch their children cry at the fact that they had to say goodbye to their childhood home/friends in only a few days' time. All for the ratings. I'm speechless 

[Kohola3]

1 minute ago, NotEatingKale said:

I don't understand how they could sit there and watch their children cry at the fact that they had to say goodbye to their childhood home/friends in only a few days' time. All for the ratings.

And for the money.  It's a wonder those kids turned out as well as they have.  Their parents are all emotionally abusive - tear them from their home and friends lying about everything.

[CofCinci]

On 8/11/2017 at 4:21 PM, ginger90 said:

Was looking for something else, and saw this, Christine's pantry:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aNvJlyVqslM

This video is great because it shows how Meri was so seperated from everyone - even her own child.  Christine could have sent Mariah (and others) home, but she seemed to genuinely love her role in all the Children's lives.

An Easter egg -- Janelle's kids were all over Christine's for dinner on that Kody night.  They had the most exposure to Kody and are his favorites. 

[TurtlePower]

4 hours ago, CofCinci said:

This video is great because it shows how Meri was so seperated from everyone - even her own child.  Christine could have sent Mariah (and others) home, but she seemed to genuinely love her role in all the Children's lives.

An Easter egg -- Janelle's kids were all over Christine's for dinner on that Kody night.  They had the most exposure to Kody and are his favorites. 

Meri was definitely separating herself from everyone else. She could have made her own food and sat down with everyone, happens all the time with people who are vegan or gluten free. 

And it appears she stopped watching her diet after moving to LV.........(as did they all, the heat and abundance of convenience food do not help). 

[DakotaJustice]

What strikes me the most about that video now is how happy, cute, and bubbly Christine is. 

If Meri can sell crappy clothes with that sour attitude of hers, Christine would absolutely kill it. 

[Kohola3]

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If Meri can sell crappy clothes with that sour attitude of hers, Christine would absolutely kill it. 

And work on a weekend?  God forbid!  She needs to be home with all of her brood - hence the horror when she found out that Realtors need to work weekends!

[jabbi]

On 8/15/2017 at 3:56 PM, Kohola3 said:

Again, Rainflower, right on. 

And since she fancies herself the Earth Goddess Mother Type, open a day care for the rest of the poly families around.  Wouldn't cost her anything and she could make additional money that way.  The whole "I went to school to be a Realtor but, oops, I won't work weekends so never mind" crap just made me nauseated.  Deadbeat, lazy ass welfare cheat.

Not really. At least in my state. In order to operate an in home daycare you must have less than 6 children total in your care during daycare hours, that includes your own children. It appeared during the earliest season that Christine had Paedon on down for "homeschool". 

[AnnieBeez]

On 8/26/2017 at 10:39 AM, Kohola3 said:

And work on a weekend?  God forbid!  She needs to be home with all of her brood - hence the horror when she found out that Realtors need to work weekends!

I can't blame her for not working weekends. For being naive and/or ignorant enough not to realize? that is another thing. There are plenty of weekday while-kids-are-at-school jobs she could get. 

Edited September 8, 2017 by MissHavisham

[Kohola3]

She was just too lazy to work and the weekend thing was an excuse.  For Pete's sake she was with them 7 days a week.  So she couldn't spend a few hours working on Saturday or Sunday?  

[xwordfanatik]

I thought there were more recent posts here, re Christine.  Anyway, here's a snark on the latest epi.

If Christine and daughters wanted pictures of themselves wearing that wedding dress monstrosity, couldn't someone had ironed the potato sack first?  Did Christine have it stuffed in a tiny dresser drawer?  I did like the "I'm gonna go get pregnant" comment.  

[toodles]

Gwen has always been one of my favorites.  She is always good for a snarky comment.  My kind of girl.  I ff through most of this episode.  I may have to watch a little closer for the wedding dress part.

[ShellB]

5 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

I thought there were more recent posts here, re Christine.  Anyway, here's a snark on the latest epi.

If Christine and daughters wanted pictures of themselves wearing that wedding dress monstrosity, couldn't someone had ironed the potato sack first?  Did Christine have it stuffed in a tiny dresser drawer?  I did like the "I'm gonna go get pregnant" comment.  

Was it shoved into a drawer before her wedding?

[LilWharveyGal]

Christine's having trouble with laundry today.

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, LilWharveyGal said:

Christine's having trouble with laundry today.

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

Do tell!  I'm old, and I still have trouble with fitted sheets. 

If it's too off-topic, you can message me.

[Kohola3]

1 hour ago, LilWharveyGal said:

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

She equates folding a sheet to an algebraic equation?  And she was home schooling the young'uns?  Sufferin' succotash, that's scary.

[DragonFaerie]

1 hour ago, LilWharveyGal said:

Christine's having trouble with laundry today.

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

I had to laugh, ahem cackle, hysterically when I read some of those comments that said if you can fold a fitted sheet you're a Witch.  Yes I can fold a fitted sheet, and yes I'm a Witch.  I wonder if I got on Twitter what Christine would say if I replied to her.  Hmmm.

[Gothish520]

2 hours ago, LilWharveyGal said:

Christine's having trouble with laundry today.

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

I roll it into a ball and shove it into the drawer, just like everyone else. That's the right way, isn't it?  ;D :P

[Absolom]

Martha Stewart has a video plus youtube has several.  But then why would Christine try to look up how to do such a task?  She probably could have asked Meri or Aspyn.

[LilWharveyGal]

Step 1:  Put the sheet in the toaster.  Kiddingk!

@xwordfanatik, maybe one of the videos @Absolom mentioned would help.  I'm having a hard time putting a clear description into words.

[DragonFaerie]

16 minutes ago, LilWharveyGal said:

Step 1:  Put the sheet in the toaster.  Kiddingk!

@xwordfanatik, maybe one of the videos @Absolom mentioned would help.  I'm having a hard time putting a clear description into words.

OMG!  I need a new keyboard.  That's beautiful!

[Roslyn]

2 hours ago, LilWharveyGal said:

Christine's having trouble with laundry today.

(To be fair, I only just learned how to do this last year.)

Oh my.  My Grandmother taught me to do that when I was like...7 or 8.  You could open her linen cabinet and never know which sheet was a flat sheet or a fitted sheet, she was a sheet pro!! It became my job to iron the sheets and fold them just right when I was a kid.  It is a lot easier if you fold them right on the ironing board or on the bed where you have a large space to work.

1 hour ago, DragonFaerie said:

I had to laugh, ahem cackle, hysterically when I read some of those comments that said if you can fold a fitted sheet you're a Witch.  Yes I can fold a fitted sheet, and yes I'm a Witch.  I wonder if I got on Twitter what Christine would say if I replied to her.  Hmmm.

Blessed Be Sister!!

[DragonFaerie]

3 minutes ago, Roslyn said:

Oh my.  My Grandmother taught me to do that when I was like...7 or 8.  You could open her linen cabinet and never know which sheet was a flat sheet or a fitted sheet, she was a sheet pro!! It became my job to iron the sheets and fold them just right when I was a kid.  It is a lot easier if you fold them right on the ironing board or on the bed where you have a large space to work.

Yes, my mother and grandmother put their all cotton sheets in the big freezer to get them super cold and then ironed them and folded them.  I totally fold mine on top of my made bed because space makes it easier.  Although I don't iron my sheets - EVER.  I had my own, size appropriate, ironing board at 4 with a real frickin' iron to do all the napkins, dad's handkerchiefs and the small stuff.  

[Roslyn]

1 minute ago, DragonFaerie said:

Yes, my mother and grandmother put their all cotton sheets in the big freezer to get them super cold and then ironed them and folded them.  I totally fold mine on top of my made bed because space makes it easier.  Although I don't iron my sheets - EVER.  I had my own, size appropriate, ironing board at 4 with a real frickin' iron to do all the napkins, dad's handkerchiefs and the small stuff.  

I had an ironing board box to stand on.  I loved to iron as a kid...weird, but I started doing it because of my Grandmothers arthritis.  Everything was ironed in Grandma's house. Sheets were my favorite, I have no idea why tho...

[Kohola3]

22 minutes ago, Roslyn said:

Blessed Be Sister!!

I'm joining the coven as well.  Proudly.

[Almost 3000]

3 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

I had to laugh, ahem cackle, hysterically when I read some of those comments that said if you can fold a fitted sheet you're a Witch.  Yes I can fold a fitted sheet, and yes I'm a Witch.  I wonder if I got on Twitter what Christine would say if I replied to her.  Hmmm.

Martha Stewart taught me. Witch, maybe ;^)

[Celia Rubenstein]

5 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

I'm joining the coven as well.  Proudly.

I didn't realize there were so many of us here!

[Pickleinthemiddle]

16 hours ago, Roslyn said:

I had an ironing board box to stand on.  I loved to iron as a kid...weird, but I started doing it because of my Grandmothers arthritis.  Everything was ironed in Grandma's house. Sheets were my favorite, I have no idea why tho...

Me too.  My mom would have a sprinkle bottle and dampen everything and then stick it in the freezer.  She would let me do my dads hankies and the dishtowels.  Once I got to be about 12 she would let me do some of the clothes.  I ironed my clothes up until about 8 years ago and started using a local laundry service.  It was cheap and they often looked better than what I would do.  And yes they were able to fold the fitted sheet perfect.

[ghoulina]

Fuck a fitted sheet. 

That's all I have to say. 

[Gothish520]

3 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Fuck a fitted sheet. 

That's all I have to say. 

Hear hear!

The day you catch me folding them, let alone ironing them, is the day I've officially gone bonkers. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by Gothish520

[Gothish520]

12 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I didn't realize there were so many of us here!

Wait ladies, are we talking about those who can fold fitted sheets, or are you all real witches? Or both?

I'm not a witch but I appreciate the history and find it interesting. We honeymooned in Salem Massachusetts and I loved it, such a great town. 

Obviously there is more to modern witchcraft/Wicca than just tourist attractions, but I found the history fascinating. Yesterday was the anniversary of the start of the Salem Witch Trials.

Edited March 2, 2018 by Gothish520