"The View": Week of 10/26/15

[ChicagoCita]

So when Paula wanted to talk about her excitement at a non-New York baseball team doing well in the playoffs, Whoopi could not have been more rude, disinterested or dismissive.

 

But now that a New York team is in the World Series,* it's the first five minutes of the show, and Raven is hushed talking about football because Whoopi wants to talk even more about the Mets.

 

She's insufferable. If it's not all about her and her interests, she's awful. I can't stand her. I really would like to see what the show could be without her dictatorship and tantrums. Please let me have that chance.

 

*I am ChicagoCita now, but I was born and raised in New York (represent, Columbia Hospital, the Bronx and Midtown Manhattan!) I find that "no one matters outside Gotham" attitude grating, rude and provincial.

[RogerFromOhio]

That kid needs a brain. These people get into volatile situations all the time and trying to maintain the peace gets harder and harder to do because so many assholes are running around who have no regard for authority

attracting quality people to these positions will become more difficult and it's only going to get worse. How ridiculous that teachers and security people et al are forced to deal with the obvious shortcomings of what passes for parenting these days

I think when I see some of this over the top behaviour in these situations its what many of us might do if we found ourselves in a situation that had the potential to become out of control. Their rush to get the upper hand and try to secure some kind of calm and establish their authority is what goes on every where using weapons Violence and sheer physical strength. These things don't occur in a vacuum yet we're all so quick to judge from our comfy couches

First off being an asshole is NOT illegal....... and when authorities use force there has to be a reason for it.... a cop or teacher being annoyed is NOT justification of violence.... that is why the cop was fired.

The problem comes from parenting..... but it must be said that disrespecting authority is nothing new.... what is new is authority being held accountable for their wrong actions.... before everyone had a camera..... those in authority were able to tell lies about the incident and they were believed..... now with cameras their lies are being exposed.

In most of these violent encounters with police could be handled much better if a good cop was involved..... a good cop would deescalate the situation and handle it without violence.

I get tired of people supporting violence when there are other ways to handle incidents.

[Dahlia]

It's tine for Whoopi to leave. Her 3 strikes are up. Being Ignorant uncaring and belligerent is not what the position calls for. She's the Kim Davis of talk shows

The actor on at the end responded to her question about the role with something about people getting off their privileged and safe 'ride' in life and putting themselves out there for the benefit of others Her response was blanker than crickets - the concept completely over her head and not in her wheelhouse.

She could not get more repulsive

Edited October 28, 2015 by Dahlia

[Southern]

Every single student in that class that day said that student was quiet the entire class and just glimpse at her phone, and put it back in and apologies to the teacher.

[sugarbaker design]

First off being an asshole is NOT illegal

 

Thank goodness!  I can think of five women who sit around a desk from 11am to noon who'd be behind bars right now!  (Im not counting Joy!)

 

 

Every single student in that class that day said that student was quiet the entire class and just glimpse at her phone, and put it back in and apologies to the teacher.

 

 

If she was such a wonderful, polite, soft-spoken, student, why did the teacher call someone to have her removed?  Just because the cop was justifiably fired for his awful, abusive actions, it doesn't mean the student wasn't a disrespectful, obnoxious asshole.

Edited October 28, 2015 by sugarbaker design

[mongoose]

Not that what he did was right or acceptable and I'd be interested to know if either or both were on some sort of prescribed medication

But The kid needs a brain and an attitude adjustment

These security people get into volatile situations all the time and trying to maintain the peace gets harder and harder to do because so many assholes are running around who have no regard for authority

attracting quality people to these positions will become more difficult and it's only going to get worse. How ridiculous that teachers and security people et al are forced to deal with the obvious shortcomings of what passes for parenting these days

I think when I see some of this over the top behaviour in these situations its what many of us might do if we found ourselves without training or backup in a tough spot that had the potential to become out of control. Their rush to get the upper hand and try to secure some kind of calm and establish their authority is what goes on every where using weapons Violence and sheer physical strength. These things don't occur in a vacuum yet we're all so quick to judge from our comfy couches

I haven't heard the View's  comments yet, but I have to respond to this comment.  I retired after teaching for 40 years in junior and senior high schools.  We saw the same defiance and more from some students.  They are teenagers who don't think past the moment, and they cannot appear weak to their friends.  When they have an audience, some of the kids feel they have to save face, no matter what consequences they may suffer.  The teachers might be furious, might be cussing the "child" out in their mind, might have images of what they would like to do in response, but we know that we are adults, so we count to a million before acting.  When we get home, we might yell at the walls, floor, chairs, but we have to remain calm in class.  Despite any of the teen attitudes, I loved them and loved teaching.

Meant to add that there is no excuse for what that officer did, and I flinch each time I see it.

[mongoose]

Uh, one more comment, and I'll shut up.  It takes a LONG time to to learn how to try to de-escalate these situations, but there are many methods that we try to use to avoid a blow-up on either side.  It doesn't always work, but we can never respond in kind to the student.  The kids lose respect for teachers who lose it in the classroom, too, so everyone loses.  Apparently, five years away from the classroom has not diminished my memories of some of those incidents.  Going to breathe deeply to lower my blood pressure now. Sorry for the rant.

[Kenz]

Much respect to you, mongoose, for your 40 years of teaching. I have the upmost admiration for teachers. I noticed in the video that the man I assumed was the teacher was calm throughout the episode. It must be so tough to maintain a calm attitude when a student is acting this way. I don't believe for a minute that the student was quiet, simply glimpsed at her phone, and apologized for the incident. There was probably a lot of attitude and disrespect given before the teacher had to call in help.

 

I do believe that the officer should have been fired, because he obviously went way overboard. I'd like to hear what the teacher says about the incident.

[Bubbetv]

I am very confident that I could remove that snotty kid the same way I've done before: (especially if they're seated and I'm not.)

Take firm hold of the ear. Walk. No yanking, no pulling, they will go. If they strike you, game on, and remind them of that.

but meanwhile, just walk.

[merriebreeze]

Wish the Anthony Mackie (how charming is he?) segment had not been at the table with all the co-hosts. He needed a one-on-one or two-on-one, just so one of the interviewers wasn't Whoopi. She either doesn't know how or doesn't care about getting the guest to tell his story. It's gotta be all about her. 

She and Alex were on The Chew today. Whoopi apparently nixed the mascarpone mashed potatoes Mario had planned to prepare (without even trying it) and Alex was a bump on a log. What else is new?

Edited October 28, 2015 by merriebreeze

[ari333]

IDK the answers but there have to be consequences that matter to the teen. The teacher called not one, but two people for help; so the teen was not being sweet and apologizing. imo.   IDK.... the teachers here can chime in on this better than I can, but for example, if you talk on the phone when you're asked not to  -- you get suspended. Subsequently, anyone suspended from school cannot get their driver's license for X amount of time or if they already have a license that valid license is suspended for X time. IDK but they have to be aware of SOMETHING that will happen to them and I do not mean being slammed to the floor by a grown man.  Then after X amount of suspensions, a night in juvy..... a bolgona sandwich no phone no tv nothing. Then see how they view life and the rules.

[mongoose]

Kenz, thank you.  It was definitely difficult to appear to be calm, and I did not always succeed.  I would love to hear the teacher's side of it, too.  

 

Bubbetv, in the beginning of my career, corporal punishment was applied to kids.  Toward the end, we could not even tap any kids on the shoulder.  The administration told everyone that the teachers/school could be sued.  There were some parents who did sue teachers throughout the district for mistreating their children.  

 

The punishment that could be given is suspension, which doesn't really mean much.  The worst would be expulsion, but that would have to be if the kid hit the teacher, or sold drugs on campus.  

[mongoose]

Ari333,  the schools are limited in what they can do now.  The idea of taking away a driver's license would be a good one, but the schools have no control over that.  There are many kids under the driving age who are just as defiant as the older ones.  Ironically, this discussion makes me miss my kids.  Many times the kids with whom we battle the most, are the ones we end up liking the most.  If you can handle the situation one on one, it's better for everyone.  The schools have to be able to provide more discipline than they are allowed to do now.

Edited October 28, 2015 by mongoose

[ari333]

Kenz, thank you.  It was definitely difficult to appear to be calm, and I did not always succeed.  I would love to hear the teacher's side of it, too.  

 

Bubbetv, in the beginning of my career, corporal punishment was applied to kids.  Toward the end, we could not even tap any kids on the shoulder.  The administration told everyone that the teachers/school could be sued.  There were some parents who did sue teachers throughout the district for mistreating their children.  

 

The punishment that could be given is suspension, which doesn't really mean much.  The worst would be expulsion, but that would have to be if the kid hit the teacher, or sold drugs on campus.  

 

I agree. Suspension has to be tied to something meaningful to the child/teen. Otherwise it is just a vacation... staying home and chillin.

Ari333, the the schools are limited in what they can do now.  The idea of taking away a driver's license would be a good one, but the schools have no control over that.  There are many kids under the driving age who are just as defiant as the older ones.  Ironically, this discussion makes me miss my kids.  Many times the kids with whom we battle the most, are the ones we end up liking the most.  If you can handle the situation one on one, it's better for everyone.  The schools have to be able to provide more discipline than they are allowed to do now.

 

I know and I agree. I was just throwing out an example .... something has to be taken away that has some meaning. Suspension is not considered punishment by many.

[TheGreenKnight]

Yes, either in-school or out-of-school suspension is what I was thinking while they were discussing the video. If, after the administrator and the officer couldn't get the child to turn off the phone and/or move, call a parent and have a sit-down either that afternoon or the next to explain why the child is being suspended. The end. I wonder if the teacher regretted having an officer come to the classroom after that happened; I would have, I know, but the teacher wasn't in the wrong.

[Morgalisa]

Naturally, that disturbing video has made the rounds on every newscast, talk-show etc., but I haven't heard anyone state the obvious except Michelle.  The victim was silent.  The whole classroom was silent.  Not a gasp, scream, heckle…nothing.  Even the students sitting directly behind "the attack" seemed perfectly still and didn't flinch.  

 

I'd be in full-blown panic and fear if I was a teenager in class and that scene happened right in front of me.  As ugly as it is, I'm glad it was posted for the world to see. That police officer can't get away with that disgusting display.

There was one young lady who reacted. She was on Don Lemon last night. She was arrested for "disturbance of schools". Her mom got a call that her daughter had been arrested and was in custody. She said when she was crying out, the deputy asked her if she wanted some of the same, if not she had better shut up.

[sugarbaker design]

I wonder if the teacher regretted having an officer come to the classroom after that happened; I would have, I know, but the teacher wasn't in the wrong.

 

I'm sure the teacher regretted having that particular officer come to the classroom, it's not like the teacher requested the most violent one to come.

Edited October 28, 2015 by sugarbaker design

[Vinyasa]

Was Joy even there today? She hardly said anything. Michelle had no problem rambling on and on. Joy speak up!!

 

Raven, I can't take one thing you say seriously because I can't stop looking at what you have on your head. UGH.

[ari333]

I'm trying to find the link, but the female student has injuries...

[Jpxfactor]

Michelle needs to stop rambling stupid nonsense.

[maggiemae]

Really Jpx - and it is nonsense and then she makes a stupid joke right in the middle of her irrelevant comment.

[mbutterfly]

I am very confident that I could remove that snotty kid the same way I've done before: (especially if they're seated and I'm not.)

Take firm hold of the ear. Walk. No yanking, no pulling, they will go. If they strike you, game on, and remind them of that.

but meanwhile, just walk.

Or that little spot on the shoulder. Hi, long-time fellow teacher. We had issues with weapons and drugs (and combinations) but our security people knew the kids, had a relationship with those most needing it. They could quietly talk anybody down and (if necessary) out of the building. 

Edited October 28, 2015 by mbutterfly

[Morgalisa]

My daughter-in-law was a teacher and at her school they were not allowed to have any physical contact with a student. No ear tugging, or even a hug. They could only send a child to the office. No counseling a student in any way if other students were present.

[Bubbetv]

I think the cop could have taken her by the ear that way , and I'm sorry if it seemed like suggesting the teacher do it! I do understand that the school staff can't put hands on the lil darlins, but a cop called to remove one could!

[Morgalisa]

I personally think they've gone way too far taking authority away from teachers. My dear DIL had to apologize to a student and the mom for verbally correcting a student in the class. Ridiculous.

[Bossa Nova]

That officer NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED FOR ASSAULT.

 

All caps on purpose.

 

Now this:

 

But The kid needs a brain and an attitude adjustment

 

This girl lost her mother this past year (confirmed, not an internet rumor) and was in foster care. Ya think the school authorities should have taken any poor behavior from her into account and that she already was in some sort of trauma?

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/28/1441830/-South-Carolina-teen-violently-arrested-in-viral-video-was-recently-orphaned-and-entered-foster-care

"South Carolina teen violently arrested in viral video was recently orphaned and entered foster care"

 

The other girl that was charged  for STANDING UP for the assaulted girl was interviewed last night on MSNBC's Chris Hayes show with her attorney. She was also charged with disruption in the classroom by yelling at the officer to stop and was released on bail for $1,000. She said the assaulted girl was quiet and that the SRO officer Fields was known in the school as Officer "Slam". Go to min 4:00 to hear the brave and and articulate other student,  Niya Kenney, in the 10 min piece. She is a HEROINE. She clearly explains what happened. Ms. Kenney showed more compassion and good sense than any of the adults in charge including the teachers present and the school administrators.

 

"I know this girl don't got nobody and I couldn't believe this was happening," Kenny explained. "I had never seen nothing like that in my life, a man use that much force on a little girl. A big man, like 300 pounds of full muscle. I was like 'no way, no way.' You can't do nothing like that to a little girl. I'm talking about she's like 5'6"."

 

http://www.msnbc.com/all

"Widespread outrage over high school student's arrest"

 

He has 2 other pending suits against him. He bench presses 600 lbs as a hobby. Steroid use, anyone? Why don't these officers get DRUG TESTED regularly - they carry firearms afterall. he needs to be CHARGED. Firing is not enough. 

 

Thank God for video camera phones. They are giving voice to the voiceless. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

And what about her injuries.

 

That knuckle dragging mouth breathing neanderthal could have broken her neck and killed that CHILD. At the very least, she will now be traumatized for the rest of her life.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Bossa Nova

[RogerFromOhio]

I'm trying to find the link, but the female student has injuries...

yes I heard that..... one article said she had a broken arm.... another article said she had to have her arm in a cast.... not sure what the actual injuries are

[kaygeeret]

RE: the burka discussion.  I don't really know the rules either, but my limited knowledge and travel experiences tell me that a number of things are true at the same time.

 

It is also my understanding that the Qur'an does not require the burka in public.  It simply requires modest dress for men and women.

 

When out in public in SOME Arab countries - the ones that are Islamic states for instance - it is a civil law that women must cover up or be subjected to some high risk consequences.

 

In other countries - Turkey for one - the wearing of a burka is a choice.  So you will see some women in the full regalia, some with only the covering for their hair and others thoroughly westernized.  No repercussions any way you go.  This is actually Freedom of Religion in action....no state sanctioned religion forcing everyone to behave according to the laws of a certain religion and only that religion.

 

If members of the panel do not have the self respect to understand what the topics are, then they should keep their mouths SHUT!  Shared ignorance is exactly that - -IGNORANCE!

[NextIteration]

I agree. Suspension has to be tied to something meaningful to the child/teen. Otherwise it is just a vacation... staying home and chillin.

 

This is part of a problem that leads to children of lesser means falling behind in school, and it starts in kindergarten.  

 

Yes, either in-school or out-of-school suspension is what I was thinking while they were discussing the video. If, after the administrator and the officer couldn't get the child to turn off the phone and/or move, call a parent and have a sit-down either that afternoon or the next to explain why the child is being suspended. The end. I wonder if the teacher regretted having an officer come to the classroom after that happened; I would have, I know, but the teacher wasn't in the wrong.

 

"Officers" should never be in a classroom for discipline, unless there is a weapon or other out of control violence involved, full stop.

 

There was one young lady who reacted. She was on Don Lemon last night. She was arrested for "disturbance of schools". Her mom got a call that her daughter had been arrested and was in custody. She said when she was crying out, the deputy asked her if she wanted some of the same, if not she had better shut up.

 

Bossa Nova beat me to it, she was also on Chris Hayes and was very articulate relating what really happened.

 

Jeebus, the school to prison pipeline needs to stop.

 

YMMV.

[TheGreenKnight]

"Officers" should never be in a classroom for discipline, unless there is a weapon or other out of control violence involved, full stop.

It sounds as if the administrator called the officer after they couldn't deal with the problem. But I disagree in regards to an officer being there. If a child refuses to move from their chair, there's really nothing a teacher or administrator can do because touching a child = lawsuit. Of course, "moving" a child and "abuse" are two different things.

 

What's even more disgusting is what happened to the other child who wasn't even involved. Arrested because she cried out over extreme violence in the classroom? Wtf??? I hope the officer is sued.

[NextIteration]

It sounds as if the administrator called the officer after they couldn't deal with the problem. But I disagree in regards to an officer being there. If a child refuses to move from their chair, there's really nothing a teacher or administrator can do because touching a child = lawsuit. Of course, "moving" a child and "abuse" are two different things.

 

The problem, is that South Carolina has codified statutes that make misbehaving in school criminal.

 

Think about this, if a parent treated a child like that in public, what would happen?  Abuse charges.

 

eta: $1000 bail for Niya should tell you something.  They get the kids in school (mostly poor and of color or learning/behaviorally disabled) and into the juvenile justice system they go and then off to a private pri$on and so it goes, on and on.

Edited October 29, 2015 by NextIteration

[lovinbob]

Naturally, that disturbing video has made the rounds on every newscast, talk-show etc., but I haven't heard anyone state the obvious except Michelle.  The victim was silent.  The whole classroom was silent.  Not a gasp, scream, heckle…nothing.  Even the students sitting directly behind "the attack" seemed perfectly still and didn't flinch.  

 

I'd be in full-blown panic and fear if I was a teenager in class and that scene happened right in front of me.  As ugly as it is, I'm glad it was posted for the world to see. That police officer can't get away with that disgusting display.  

The thing that struck me was how cowed everyone in the room was, including the teacher. The only person in that video with any power was the big white man. Kudos to the young woman who stood up for her classmate. She should be so proud of herself--that isn't easy or even safe, but it shows real integrity.

 

Uh, one more comment, and I'll shut up.  It takes a LONG time to to learn how to try to de-escalate these situations, but there are many methods that we try to use to avoid a blow-up on either side.  It doesn't always work, but we can never respond in kind to the student.  The kids lose respect for teachers who lose it in the classroom, too, so everyone loses.  Apparently, five years away from the classroom has not diminished my memories of some of those incidents.  Going to breathe deeply to lower my blood pressure now. Sorry for the rant.

Amen! I have no idea what went on in that classroom before the video was shot, and I am in complete sympathy with and admiration of teachers who stand up in front of and with kids everyday to teach them. My dad was one of those teachers in the south Bronx for 30 years. It wasn't easy, and no doubt, he lost his share of battles with kids. But both law enforcement and teachers (and administrators) need to have strategies beyond manhandling. And you can't be on a damn power trip.

 

These people have no right to talk about anything. They are a bunch of dimwits.

Edited October 29, 2015 by lovinbob

[Bronzedog]

That video is horrifying. Nothing justifies that in a classroom. Did no one but the one student who spoke out not react because they're used to seeing stuff like that in school?

[NextIteration]

That video is horrifying. Nothing justifies that in a classroom. Did no one but the one student who spoke out not react because they're used to seeing stuff like that in school?

 

I felt like that was insinuated in the interview with Niya.  They knew this SOR had a reputation for being abusive, ergo the Officer Slam nickname.  I'm sure the kids are also aware that they can be carted off to juvie and end up in the pri$on $ys$tem for bad behavior in school as well.  Disgusting.

 

For the record, I am in no way condoning bad behavior by children in school, or trying to say that discipline is not important.  It's all in the type of discipline, and the frequency and fairness with which it is meted out.

[lovinbob]

That video is horrifying. Nothing justifies that in a classroom. Did no one but the one student who spoke out not react because they're used to seeing stuff like that in school?

I wondered the same thing at lunch today and two African-American colleagues laughed at me: "That's how it is every day!"

[mbutterfly]

I personally think they've gone way too far taking authority away from teachers. My dear DIL had to apologize to a student and the mom for verbally correcting a student in the class. Ridiculous.

It is inconsistent. And yet there are people who believe teachers should be armed. 

[Bossa Nova]

From journalist, Shaun King's twitter (he is on top of this story):

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

 

When asked exactly what the South Carolina student to disrupt class, Sheriff Lott said, "She wouldn't get out her Chromebook."

Really?

I searched Twitter and found THOUSANDS of people claiming she "mouthed off" etc. Just fiction. Every student said she was dead silent.

I keep seeing the student in South Carolina called "sassy" & "mouthy".

1st off, this is false. She was quiet, withdrawn.

2nd it's sexist.

 

From me:

Shout the facts from the rooftops......

Edited October 29, 2015 by Bossa Nova

[backformore]

Two things from Raven recently-   In regards to the student being abused by the cop - Raven says on Twitter that the girl needs to PUT DOWN HER PHONE.  (same thing Fox News said)

Earlier this week, she echoes Trump's idea that women wear Burkas in order to not have to fuss with hair and makeup . 

So - is she a secret Republican? 

[onthebrink03]

So - is she a secret Republican? 

 Who knows?  We all know she's a not so secret idiot.  So there is that...

Edited October 29, 2015 by onthebrink03

[maggiemae]

I think the violence was horrendous and most assuredly uncalled for.

If I had been the teacher I would have asked her to put the phone away. If she didn't then I would have gone to her desk and asked her for it and said she could collect it when class was dismissed.

And then called the school administrator if she indicated she wouldn't.

This has to be a very awful year for her....loosing her mother in Jan, and her grandmother this summer. Too much for a teen to handle. And now in foster care.

This is so disturbing....the uncalled for violence!, ignoring the first 2 authority figures, how blase the class was while this was happening (except for the friend that was outraged and then arrested!)

What an awful thing for teachers as well....once you allow cell phone use in the classroom for one then a lot of kids will follow - and they are there to learn.

So glad the deputy was fired and I hope he is sued as well. And I hope the victim gets some therapy, in just 2 years she will be 18.

[lovinbob]

I just read via Shaun King's twitter that apparently her mother isn't really dead. She does live with a foster family.

 

Doesn't change anything for me.

[maggiemae]

Goes to show there is so much more to learn from all this gossip and so few actual facts - other than the violence of the cop we saw on video.

[jumper sage]

OMG!  So many things to reply to.  I work with kids preschool through grade 12 who have "special issues" which includes divorce, death in the family, poverty etc.  Any teacher that feels they can and should touch a student is in the wrong job.  These kids need someone who is trained to understand their issues and can work individually with them to overcome their negative feelings and turn their lives in a positive direction.  I live in Michigan and in a county that specializes in special education.  People move here from all over the country to get their kids into our programs.  Misabuse of children does range in all economical households.  Recent cases include:

 

• The well to do parents that beat the crap out of their 1st grader and then found out he was highly autistic.  Never been to the doctor except for shots.
• The upper middle class parents who kept slapping their 2 year old for he would not come when they called.  In 2 minutes a doctor found out he was deaf.

 

In my experience the children of the wealthy and the children of the poor share many of the same issues such as being sent to school sick because the parents have to work or being left alone for work etc.

 

This poor girl will be traumatized for life due to this incident.  I am shocked at Raven's remarks that she herself was terrified of her teachers/principals and feels that is ok and her remarks that the girl put her phone down all the while Raven is looking at her own phone.  You know darn well the teacher has his/her phone on her desk all day too.  In case no one noticed - ALL THE STUDENTS WERE RECORDING THE INCIDENT WITH THEIR OWN PHONES!

 

Between Raven not reading books without pictures (shudder) and her remarks on many incidents that involves black children lately I think the "set school" was not very beneficial for her education or world view.

Edited October 29, 2015 by jumper sage

[mongoose]

Jumper sage, I just read your reply and wanted to give you a standing ovation.    

 I understand and agree with everything you said!!  Thank you.  

[Morgalisa]

The other girl who was arrested said she asked students around her to take out their phones and record when she saw the deputy come in because she knew things were going to go downhill. Also, she was not friends with the girl who was assaulted. She said she didn't even know her name because she was very quiet and never spoke to anyone.

[Former Nun]

Between Raven not reading books without pictures (shudder) and her remarks on many incidents that involves black children lately I think the "set school" was not very beneficial for her education or world view.

 

 

I agree...and her parents should also take some blame. 

Edited October 30, 2015 by Former Nun

[telemachus2]

I taught junior high years ago & couldn't believe the violent reaction of the resource officer; equally incomprehensible was the apparent lack of intervention from the observing teacher & assistant principal (IMO both should be disciplined &/or demoted, & forced to attend lengthy classroom control re-training.)  No teacher or administrator worth employing would stand by & watch a pupil brutalized like this.

Edited October 29, 2015 by telemachus2

[ginger90]

Goes to show there is so much more to learn from all this gossip and so few actual facts - other than the violence of the cop we saw on video.

Reflects the way of The View doesn't it? While watching a show and thinking, "I want to find out more about this." vs "I have to find out what the truth really is." are two different things. This show just sucks.

[Bronzedog]

To save time before the show starts - Raven is an idiot.

[Fisher King]

Huckabee via satellite was a total fiasco.

I appreciated Whoopi trying to grill him on abortion but it just wasn't connecting.