Maddie Brown: Seeking a One-Woman Man

[xwordfanatik]

I have never heard of the hotdog water, but I do remember one of them saying they ate stale bread.  That's darn sad.

It never occurred to Kootie that he should limit his family size?  That's very selfish.  JMO.

I wonder if Maddie and Mykelti talk crap about Meri.  I kind of felt they were always in competition.  

[Auntie Freeze]

3 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

I think Meri just lacks taste in fashion.  Remember the ugly-as-mud crappy fabric that she picked for the phony commitment ceremony?  The young woman that was trying to sew that hideous dress finally gave up and told Meri to go buy a dress.  Not that what she ended up wearing was a good look, either!  

Which is why she found her niche with Lularot 😆

[Roslyn]

3 hours ago, Rabbit Hutch said:

I do recall them indicating times were lean back then.  Didn't one of the original children mention drinking hotdog water for a meal and sometimes going to bed hungry?  Don't know how believable all of that is but if true then they were far poorer than I originally thought.

 

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

I have never heard of the hotdog water, but I do remember one of them saying they ate stale bread.  That's darn sad.

It never occurred to Kootie that he should limit his family size?  That's very selfish.  JMO.

Mykelti talked about their poverty in her patreon. She mentioned that they ate the leftover bread from the bakery that is on the ranch (never mentioned on the show, but talked about by the nephew in an interview). When Tony heard her say that he said "but you had hot dogs..." and Mykelti said "no...we WISHED we had hot dogs" Which is probably where the hot dog reference comes from.

And yes... even having such food insecurity with a gaggle of children Kody and the wives went on to have even MORE children.

I believe Kody said in the book that when he was panting after Robyn and she dangled the "fact" that so many men in their church were after her...he proposed to her even tho he was "at his lowest financial place". Choosing to bring in more children, more housing and food needs and $30,000 ish debt.

[Orcinus orca]

7 minutes ago, Roslyn said:

And yes... even having such food insecurity with a gaggle of children Kody and the wives went on to have even MORE children.

On Escaping Polygamy, it was noted that the homes of polygamists always smell like garbage.  They are eating rotting food that was often obtained by dumpster diving.  The women had to do whatever they could to feed the kids, the men just kept marrying more and making even more children.

Sure hope that heavenly planet is worth it.

[Roslyn]

20 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said:

On Escaping Polygamy, it was noted that the homes of polygamists always smell like garbage.  They are eating rotting food that was often obtained by dumpster diving.  The women had to do whatever they could to feed the kids, the men just kept marrying more and making even more children.

Sure hope that heavenly planet is worth it.

Yes, I remember watching that show and hearing this story. I grew up very poor and I know what it's like to walk into a grocery store with X dollars to spend and that has to stretch for X people for X days. But I was never so poor that rotting food had to be eaten or dumpster diving. I really can't imagine that. My Grandparents were Depression Era and they had stories to tell, but Grandma taught me all her make it happen and make due skills.

And food insecurity sticks through your life like DNA glue. My family is "doing okay" in this economy but I still know exactly what is in my root cellar, my freezer and pantry and exactly how long it will last for us.

[ginger90]

[ginger90]

[GeeGolly]

So are Maddie and Janelle going to start a family farm?

[Denize]

Summer is nearly over. She should have started reading ~6 months ago.

[ginger90]

50 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

So are Maddie and Janelle going to start a family farm?

They bought property near Maddie’s. Janelle, Maddie and Caleb are partners in TAEDA FARMS LLC.

[Denize]

Wonder where "TAEDA" comes from?  Taeda means "wood" or "pinewood" in Latin. Who knew Janelle & Maddie were Latin scholars. The area is covered with pine trees. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by Denize

[surfgirl]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

So are Maddie and Janelle going to start a family farm?

Well why not? She probably has a never-ending supply of bullshit courtesy of KoDouche so she might as well make something with all that bullshit!

[Absolom]

3 hours ago, Denize said:

Summer is nearly over. She should have started reading ~6 months ago.

My guess is planning for next year.

[ginger90]

My guess is she already read the books below the one she has the arrow pointing to.

[Roslyn]

20 hours ago, Denize said:

Summer is nearly over. She should have started reading ~6 months ago.

There is a lot of infrastructure needed for farming or even large scale gardening. You either have a lot of money and can just buy/hire out for everything or you start small and slowly build it.

[laurakaye]

I have trouble just weeding my small garden, lol, especially when it's super hot out.  Is this garden going to go the way of Janelle's other abandoned business ventures?  She never seemed particularly motivated, but maybe after losing 180 pounds of ego and hair gel, she's feeling a renewed sense of purpose to do what she really loves, with her kids.  If so, good for her.

[Roslyn]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I have trouble just weeding my small garden, lol, especially when it's super hot out.  Is this garden going to go the way of Janelle's other abandoned business ventures?  She never seemed particularly motivated, but maybe after losing 180 pounds of ego and hair gel, she's feeling a renewed sense of purpose to do what she really loves, with her kids.  If so, good for her.

It will be interesting. North Carolina is hot and humid. Farming is hard work, battling every bug (and birds) out there. And rain or shine. I assume that Maddie would be the force behind the heavy work in their venture.

I get work done in my garden in part because of its layout. I am in a valley with forest around me. I go out early in the morning and can work in the bottom of the garden until around 8:30am when the sun hits that area. I can work higher up until about 10am then I need to be done and back to the house.

While I would love that picture perfect garden that captures the sun from rise to set... I would never be able to work in it with my very pale skin. Even with proper clothing and hats I am kept to the shade.

[GeeGolly]

Hopefully they will start out slow with a roadside stand.

[CalicoKitty]

I wonder what the next idea will be after this one proves to be too much work.

[Pickleinthemiddle]

On 8/22/2024 at 12:39 PM, laurakaye said:

I have trouble just weeding my small garden, lol, especially when it's super hot out.  Is this garden going to go the way of Janelle's other abandoned business ventures?  She never seemed particularly motivated, but maybe after losing 180 pounds of ego and hair gel, she's feeling a renewed sense of purpose to do what she really loves, with her kids.  If so, good for her.

Agree.  Gardening is hard work, because to have a successful garden you have to work in it daily to keep the weeds out.  At least for a vegetable garden you really need a good compost to put on it, which also needs horse manure to help have  good growing.  I see people online who start out huge not realizing how much work needs to be put into it, more so if you are planning on being mostly self sustaining.

[Denize]

Timber harvesting, where professionals do all the work and replant seedlings on rotation would probably be a better choice.  Janelle should start with a small vegetable garden that she can keep going for more than the one year she managed in Flagstaff.  

[Roslyn]

23 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

Agree.  Gardening is hard work, because to have a successful garden you have to work in it daily to keep the weeds out.  At least for a vegetable garden you really need a good compost to put on it, which also needs horse manure to help have  good growing.  I see people online who start out huge not realizing how much work needs to be put into it, more so if you are planning on being mostly self sustaining.

I made the "go big" mistake when I started my garden at my house after we moved in. You could still see the ground disturbance outline off the original builder's garden. A traditional 75' by 100-150'. I mapped out 4'x25' beds...18 of them. My husband tilled them up and I very quickly became overwhelmed since I worked full time and had teenagers to run around to school and various activities. Worse the ground here is heavy clay that was so different from the loam I had gardened on before.

In 2020 we started renovating but were smarter about it. I split each 4x25 in ground bed into sections. Two 4x10 raised beds with a walkway between them and an end cap for perennials. We have continued to add beds each year since and still aren't done. Raised beds just makes it easier to pull weeds.

I hope we get to see Maddie and Janelle's farm land at some point. Flower farming is a hot thing right now. It can be done on a more industrial size with 1 acre plots of one variety for wholesale harvesting. Large plots means that the work can be done with a reasonable sized tractor. Tractors are dangerous and you really need to know what you are doing to operate one, even the new high tech ones. A PTO can tear off a limb if it doesn't kill you outright. A lot of social media farm pages do glamorize with beautiful photos and content...but there are some that share the hard ships and really really hard work too.

[ginger90]

[LilyD]

On 8/22/2024 at 10:50 PM, Roslyn said:

I assume that Maddie would be the force behind the heavy work in their venture.

Maddie doing the hard work?? She'd complain about the smallest of chores as if it was hard physical labor!  If you consider running your own household hard work,  don't try farming.

 Does she still have the dogs and chickens? She also did some gardening/vegetable patches a few years back I think. Never heard of it again. 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by LilyD
rephrased a few bits

[ginger90]

33 minutes ago, LilyD said:

Does she still have the dogs and chickens? She also did some gardening/vegetable patches a few years back I think. Never heard of it again. 

 

Yes.
 

She hasn’t been on the show for you to see any of it. 

Edited September 4, 2024 by ginger90

[Elodia]

Maddie is pregnant with Baby #4, she just announced it on her IG

[ginger90]

[GeeGolly]

Maybe a little boy. A little old soul with characteristics of Garrison.

[Absolom]

At first glance that could have been a photo of Janelle when she was younger.

[zoomama]

that is quite a belly for being only about three-ish months along!

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, zoomama said:

that is quite a belly for being only about three-ish months along!

It’s baby number 4.  She’s short - baby has to go out not up.  And she could be 4 months along. We don’t  know when in March she is due.

[ginger90]

[GeeGolly]

Maybe they should have used a less curated photo? 

[PuddleJumper]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Maybe they should have used a less curated photo? 

Exactly! 😂

Why are so many influencers obsessed with the word "CURATED"?

"The Authentic Society"?

What does that even mean?

Do they only buy REAL designer handbags, shoes etc and look down their noses on fakes?

I used to listen to her other podcast "Some What Basic" and she was the same as all the other "influencers" with lots of fancy shoes, handbags, gourmet coffee, cocktail dresses, guzzling wine, discussing celebrities, nothing I would consider "Authentic Society", more like "Typical Clout Chaser"

Can't wait to see what the new Podcast is about.

She had Maddie on as a guest in 2023

 

[BAForever]

1 hour ago, PuddleJumper said:

Can't wait to see what the new Podcast is about.

She had Maddie on as a guest in 2023

 

@PuddleJumper, I'd rather do just about anything than listen to 2 young women discuss how authentic they are. Please give a listen and share your thoughts.

Thanks for taking one for the team. 

[LilyD]

If she goes down this path (and the farm), then hopefully she's ditched the Plexus!  You're either authentic or not. Plexus is not: It's fake, artificial and unhealthy.

[ginger90]

I think watching this video of Maddie from March 18th may help shed light on what she’s trying to do.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4qLeHBOShC

Edited October 28, 2024 by ginger90

[BAForever]

32 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I think watching this video of Maddie from March 18th may help shed light on what she’s trying to do.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4qLeHBOShC

Thanks @ginger90. Torn about this- Maddie has every right/reason to share her knowledge and experience with the loss of Garrison. Just not sure how sustainable it is long term. Hate to be suspicious, but is it a money grab? (someone else could express this better I'm sure).

I'm certain she was devastated by Garrison and misses him terribly. Hope others chime in. Interested in your thoughts. 

[Orcinus orca]

The Brown Clowns never do anything unless there is some payment involved. If that's the case and Maddie is using her deceased brother for that, shame on her.

[General Days]

I don't keep up with most of the Brown kids unless/until there's some news from them, so I'm just speculating here.

The things I've seen shared here from Madison makes me think it's more likely that she's talking about a sort down-to-earth approach to family/parenting/life — not about authentic brand handbags or whatever.

I think Maddie is fairly Crunchy Granola (with a practical bent and a conservative Christian point of view), so I would expect that's the kind of "authenticity" she's aiming at. It seems to me that last year at Christmastime, she put something out about being intentional about what kind of presents they gave their little ones for the holidays. If I recall correctly, it seemed pretty sensible at the time.

I also don't think that writing (or speaking/making videos) about pain and grief in your life is necessarily a money grab. So to the extent that she talks about her grief and loss, I wouldn't automatically consider it exploitation of Garrison, unless it was done in an exploitative way. 

Lots of times, people come up with an idea, because they themselves have a need, and then realize, "Hey, nobody is doing this! Why is nobody doing this? Wait, I could maybe do this."

Edited to add:

This was the post I was thinking about, re Maddie's approach to Christmas gifts. She says they give each kid four gifts (apart from Santa): something they want; something they need; something to do; something to read. 

I'm not usually a big fan of Maddie, but I thought it was a pretty practical and thoughtful way to approach gifts for young children. 
 

https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/32972-maddie-brown-seeking-a-one-woman-man/?do=findComment&comment=8243700

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by General Days

[ginger90]

I guess I see this podcast differently especially since the first episode isn’t even released. Maddie’s comments about social media and how Garrison felt is actually something many people have trouble with.

Edited October 28, 2024 by ginger90

[BAForever]

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I guess I see this podcast differently especially since the first episode isn’t even released.

You're right Ginger. I need to reserve comments till after you or @AZChristian or one of our other awesome posters listens and reports. 

[General Days]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I guess I see this podcast differently especially since the first episode isn’t even released. Maddie’s comments about social media and how Garrison felt is actually something many people have trouble with.

I definitely agree with this.

MLM sales aside, all of Janelle's kids seem like pretty thoughtful, grounded kids, just trying to make a good life for themselves and their families. It also seems clear to me that all of the OG kids were devastated by Garrison's passing. Without having the podcast being out there yet, to the extent Maddie talks about the issues she mentioned in that March video, I would expect her to approach it seriously and thoughtfully. 

[ginger90]

This post is from 2 days ago.

[Auntie Freeze]

From Insta. I can't say I'm shocked, it was a dud. There didn't seem to be an actual point to the podcast and the hosts didn't feel like they gelled.

 

[BAForever]

27 minutes ago, Auntie Freeze said:

From Insta. I can't say I'm shocked, it was a dud. There didn't seem to be an actual point to the podcast and the hosts didn't feel like they gelled.

 

How many episodes did they make? Not surprised either, she's got a full plate at home. 

[General Days]

2 minutes ago, BAForever said:

How many episodes did they make? Not surprised either, she's got a full plate at home. 

 

It looks like they did six episodes, plus an intro and a bonus (see YouTube link below).

If there's one thing the Browns are great at, it's quitting.

 

https://www.youtube.com/@TheAuthenticSociety/videos

 

[Absolom]

Maddie tried a podcast?  That's how gripping it was I guess.

[BAForever]

19 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Maddie tried a podcast?  That's how gripping it was I guess.

 

3 minutes ago, BAForever said:

One of our brilliant posters (maybe @ginger90 or @AZChristian) was all over this podcast a few months ago. I was worried that Maddie was going to use the family tragedy as a springboard for publicizing her podcast. Someone posted a clip of her podcast a few months ago, it seemed fine, but probably not sustainable. 

ETA- full discussion is just a bit earlier on this (Maddie's thread).

Edited January 7 by BAForever

[LilyD]

12 hours ago, General Days said:

If there's one thing the Browns are great at, it's quitting.

Especially Maddie. She has tried so many things and never seems to finish or follow up on anything. I've lost count on her "business" activities and college efforts.