ulkis June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Oh, and I'm not mad about Michael giving back Avery. It helped that today Dante wasn't all "oh you got the baby back! hurrah!" and also she is going to be revealed as Morgan's soon, I am sure. And really, I don't think Sonny cared all that much to begin with, so I don't think giving her back is relieving him of a punishment. And if Michael is on Morgan's side on any custody battle that would be good, but that's an iffy call. I skip Lulu/Dillon scenes for my health. He is so bland and annoying with his "this is how your husband would react to a situation even though I have met him literally 2 minutes tops" statements. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284552
dubbel zout June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 And if Michael is on Morgan's side on any custody battle that would be good, but that's an iffy call. Where is Morgan living these days? With Lauren at Silas's? I don't consider that a healthy environment for a child. Avery is better off at Sonny's. At least she has a nanny there who's sole purpose is to take care of her. Morgan doesn't even shower on a daily basis. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284564
TeeVee329 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Where is Morgan living these days? At Carly's, although we haven't seen that set in eons. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284575
ulkis June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 This facebook comment is great: Dante's a fool...so is Lulu. The truth always comes out unless you are Jake/Jason. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284594
Francie June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 "It was in the script, I dunno why the line was changed" is becoming a reRon all its own. Other plot tidbits from Ron's twitter: Holly and Robert are together off-camera and there was a line explaining his absence in the outline that got cut when it went to script. On screen or it didn't happen. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284602
tveyeonyou June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 So is all of this destruction/distraction something to keep us from wondering who is on the other end of the phone? I might guess it was Stavros if I thought there was an actual storyline. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284741
LeftPhalange June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Tracy should've had the non-existent Quartermaine security shoot Ava on sight. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284750
Box305 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) Oh dear: https://twitter.com/EmmaSamms1/status/616001889939943424 It seems Tony and Emma couldn't remember the Bill/Holly relationship and changed the line. Edited June 30, 2015 by Box305 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284809
Francie June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 "It was in the script, I dunno why the line was changed" is becoming a reRon all its own. Other plot tidbits from Ron's twitter: Holly and Robert are together off-camera and there was a line explaining his absence in the outline that got cut when it went to script. It didn't just get cut, though. Ron is now saying that he originally wrote it as there being no con and that Holly went to visit Ethan at his home in Australia. Sounds like an override to me. But that makes me go 'hmmmmmm.' Who now has the power to do that level of re-write? Frank on the set? Why bother. The network? Another writer who's now the final say even though Ron has a contract that says he's head writer? The plot thickens. Funny how the only plots that thicken on this show are the behind-the-scene machinations? The plots on screen? Are so light, they could float on air. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284817
WendyCR72 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Oh dear: https://twitter.com/EmmaSamms1/status/616001889939943424 It seems Tony and Emma couldn't remember the Bill/Holly relationship and changed the line. I can see WISHING to block that travesty out, but really? That went on for a while, right? How could that have been forgotten? And this is why, even if they were also hacks, we needed more than one GH writer holdover. I bet SOMEONE could have caught that and asked ES/TG WTF they were doing... 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284819
ulkis June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 That is hilarious. This is why you don't change lines kids. I can see WISHING to block that travesty out, but really? That went on for a while, right? How could that have been forgotten? And this is why, even if they were also hacks, we needed more than one GH writer holdover. I bet SOMEONE could have caught that and asked ES/TG WTF they were doing... Even if the old writers were still here, none of them would have been in the room when the scene played out, so they probably still would have made the same oopsie. Still, you'd think someone in editing would have caught that . . . ? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284821
Francie June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Oh dear: https://twitter.com/EmmaSamms1/status/616001889939943424 It seems Tony and Emma couldn't remember the Bill/Holly relationship and changed the line. I've always said that General Hospital in 1992 was forgettable. Now I have irrefutable proof. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284828
WendyCR72 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 That is hilarious. This is why you don't change lines kids. Even if the old writers were still here, none of them would have been in the room when the scene played out, so they probably still would have made the same oopsie. Still, you'd think someone in editing would have caught that . . . ? True about the GH hacks. Still, I believe most writers/crew on GH were replaced by OLTL 1.0 crew, so if that is the case with editing? Yeah. And that is why you should never fire everyone, especially those who are aware of the show's past. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284834
HeatLifer June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 I want to pretend that Geary changed the line on purpose to make Ron look like an idiot. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284837
ulkis June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 True about the GH hacks. Still, I believe most writers/crew on GH were replaced by OLTL 1.0 crew, so if that is the case with editing? Yeah. And that is why you should never fire everyone, especially those who are aware of the show's past. The directors seem to have been spared, mostly. And I'm pretty sure Frank does the editing himself, so yeah, really, no excuse 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284841
TeeVee329 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Oh dear: https://twitter.com/EmmaSamms1/status/616001889939943424 It seems Tony and Emma couldn't remember the Bill/Holly relationship and changed the line. Wow. Good on ES for owning it. And, uh, sorry Ron. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284847
Harmony233 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 I know actors can forget a lot of stuff ecspecially ones that have been around a long time but thats something kinda big to forget lol. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284855
Francie June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Wow. Good on ES for owning it. And, uh, sorry Ron. It still doesn't get Sickles and Ron past Holly's "I hadn't seen Luke in years!" when Ethan was conceived in 1986 and Holly saw Luke and Holly at the end of 1984. And it doesn't get them past "I didn't know Luke had a child!" when Holly was there when Luke and Laura announced that Laura was pregnant. And it doesn't get them past, "I didn't realize Luke was still married," when she saw Luke being head over heels over Laura in 1983 and 1984. They still took quite a bit of liberty with the past. Okay, one more thing. Geary not only got to re-write his own lines -- but he got to re-write the lines of characters whose scenes he wasn't even in?!! That? Is bananas. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284859
Harmony233 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 I've always said that General Hospital in 1992 was forgettable. Now I have irrefutable proof. LOL that was a pretty bad year although I did like Dominquie and scottys drunken vegas wedding so much better than Luke and tracys lol. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284873
mybabyaidan June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 I couldn't post yesterday due to my rage blackout. I didn't actually watch the episode, but I knew what was happening. I am going to pretend it didn't to preserve my sanity. Fucking Michael. Dude. I loved you for a short time and it was lovely. Now kindly fuck off. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284881
Francie June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Wow. Good on ES for owning it. And, uh, sorry Ron. This is also, why, just maybe, you have a writer's room actually in the same building as where the show is shot. So someone could, you know, walk over to it, and ask, "Hey, is this right?" And are the writers not available by email during work hours? This is just such a colossally unnecessary error. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284893
Box305 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Those assclowns should also watch this video to get some of the other timelines right. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284896
Oracle42 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 I couldn't post yesterday due to my rage blackout. I didn't actually watch the episode, but I knew what was happening. I am going to pretend it didn't to preserve my sanity. Fucking Michael. Dude. I loved you for a short time and it was lovely. Now kindly fuck off. It's nice that his decision to suck coincides with his relationship with the Sparkle Princess - I like it when the suck is contained. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284925
Box305 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Every time I think of Sabrina going from virgin to someone who had lots of sex, I think of Kenneth the Page from 30 Rock: 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1284936
LeftPhalange June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 What line did ES and TG change? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285066
jsbt June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Someone should have caught this shit. There's no excuse. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285097
dubbel zout June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 And are the writers not available by email during work hours? I doubt they'd want to hold up shooting. This mistake is all on the actors. I don't see Sonny with kids, I see Mo with kids. It's the only way I stay sane. Poor Dante. He should be talking to Nathan about his marital woes, not Sonny. And wow those Port Charles to British Columbia wormholes are fast! "Sonny is a killer. He kills people." Yeah, so do you, Ava. You also rip children out of their mother's wombs. This is not a hill you want to plant your flag on. That picture of Ethan and Lucky was hilarious. They probably took it in the basement at the studios. It's so cheesy. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285113
Tiger June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Seriously, so snark: what the damn hell is going on behind the scenes at "General Hospital"? As for today's show, I got through it by imagining what Dom and Genie were thinking during their respective scenes. Sometimes, I amuse myself. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285127
ulkis June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 "Sonny is a killer. He kills people." Yeah, so do you, Ava. You also rip children out of their mother's wombs. This is not a hill you want to plant your flag on. when did Ava do that, re: the children? As for today's show, I got through it by imagining what Dom and Genie were thinking during their respective scenes. Sometimes, I amuse myself. I wondered that for this: That picture of Ethan and Lucky was hilarious. They probably took it in the basement at the studios. It's so cheesy. I'm sure Nathan Parsons and JJ were cracking up. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285148
dubbel zout July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 when did Ava do that, re: the children? D'oh, she's the one who had the child ripped out. I'm dumber than Morgan. She still doesn't have the moral high ground with Sonny, though. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285171
jsbt July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Ava left Connie to drown in her own blood with a gut shot. That's enough for me. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285179
KerleyQ July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Ava left Connie to drown in her own blood with a gut shot. That's enough for me. Sonny: "Who?" 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285194
Oracle42 July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Ava left Connie to drown in her own blood with a gut shot. That's enough for me. She also framed AJ for the (stupid) murder that she committed and is as responsible as Sonny for AJ's murder. I hope Carly snatches that wig off in public and jams it down AvaDen's throat 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285206
Ambrosefolly July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 "Sonny is a killer. He kills people." Yeah, so do you, Ava. You also rip children out of their mother's wombs. This is not a hill you want to plant your flag on. I thought the baby ripping was Nina? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285212
TeeVee329 July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 (edited) What line did ES and TG change? Holly said she didn't know Bill Eckert. In the original line, she correctly said she did know him. Edited July 1, 2015 by TeeVee329 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285213
bybrandy July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Too bad actors/producers/directors/other people on set aren't allowed to use google.... oh, wait. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285217
tricknasty July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 I hope Carly snatches that wig off in public and jams it down AvaDen's throat Why didn't Franco realize it was a wig when he was playing with it the other day? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285289
dubbel zout July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Why didn't Franco realize it was a wig when he was playing with it the other day? He doesn't care. He'd kiss Lauren if he had to to make Nina jealous. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285318
ulkis July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 *whispers* He's way too old for her, but I thought nuKiki and Franco had some chemistry. I know, I hate myself too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285329
cmahorror July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 (edited) This is what goes through my head when Nikolas is on screen now: (sung to the tune of I'm the Map from Dora the Explorer) I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche, I'm the douche (Shouted with pride) I'm the douche! Thank you folks - I'm here all week. Edited July 1, 2015 by cmahorror 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285343
TeeVee329 July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 (edited) They* don't call him the Prince of Douchey Tides for nothin'! * okay, I... Edited July 1, 2015 by TeeVee329 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285367
sacrebleu July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Ava left Connie to drown in her own blood with a gut shot. Well sure, Ava gut shot Connie. But Connie might have survived if Sonny hadn't taken 20 minutes to dial 9-1-1. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285489
DayPlayerAtKellys July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Am watching Monday's episode and I'm officially embarrassed for every actor on this show. What rot this has become. I thought it fell off the rails last summer, but it regained some traction with all the Michael/AJ stuff.... but now that's even been thrown out the window. Barge, here I come. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285492
tvgoddess July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Ava left Connie to drown in her own blood with a gut shot. That's enough for me. And since that time, she's been drugged, had a child ripped out of her and stolen, been shot, fell off a bridge and almost died of cancer. She's turning into the Kelly Taylor of Port Charles. Next up: cocaine addiction and being brainwashed by a lameass cult. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285522
mybabyaidan July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 I know Nikolas is evil now, but TC looked pretty good today. Jake is the biggest fucking moron on the planet if he hasn't picked up on the ridiculously exaggerated guilty faces Liz has been sporting lately. My god, BH's face must hurt from some of those expressions. I hate Liz and her stupid lying face, but my god Becky looked stunning today. That blue is a good choice for her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285524
HeatLifer July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 The way both Jake and Sam are completely oblivious to Liz and Patrick's "looks" makes me laugh, though. It's cute and dumb at the same time. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285530
Box305 July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 And since that time, she's been drugged, had a child ripped out of her and stolen, been shot, fell off a bridge and almost died of cancer. She's turning into the Kelly Taylor of Port Charles. Next up: cocaine addiction and being brainwashed by a lameass cult. We need an addiction to diet pills to win Kelly Taylor bingo. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285550
SlovakPrincess July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 (edited) We need an addiction to diet pills to win Kelly Taylor bingo. Also, she needs to get burned in a random sorority-house fire. And get humiliated by her drunken mother at the high school fashion show. Perhaps Ava will have some flashbacks to her younger years ... Fun-fact - Kelly Taylor's dad was played by John Reilly (Sean Donnelly). (Why do I remember these things???? I need help!) The way both Jake and Sam are completely oblivious to Liz and Patrick's "looks" makes me laugh, though. It's cute and dumb at the same time. It's hysterical because wasn't Jason supposed to have this amazing intuition? And isn't Sam a private detective? You would think these two fools would figure this thing out, already. Oh dear: https://twitter.com/EmmaSamms1/status/616001889939943424 It seems Tony and Emma couldn't remember the Bill/Holly relationship and changed the line. I don't buy it. Not to be a weirdo conspiracy theorist here, but I feel like it is more likely Ron and Frank fucked up than that Emma and Tony - who actually acted the Bill / Holly stuff out for over a year (and remember, Tony cherished the Bill Eckert character) - did. It's a cover up, LOL! Everyone seems to want to cover Ron and Frank's asses! Just kidding ... kinda ... Edited July 1, 2015 by SlovakPrincess 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285589
DanaMB July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 I actually had a quick thought that ES was taking the fall for them, too... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285651
annabel July 1, 2015 Share July 1, 2015 Yes, that Tony and Emma claim to not remember Holly/Bill is about like Ron claiming he does not remember Live Week and the Hell No wedding from OLTL. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/705/#findComment-1285694
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