Episode Discussion: TFGH

[rur]

 

Bobbie better watch out.Heather was not happy that Scott is with Bobbie which makes me wonder what the heck was Heather talking about when she said Bobbie made her lose her chance with scott back in the day.More rewritten history?

 

I believe so. I do remember that Heather and Scotty lived together for a while, but I think Bobbie was just a distant memory for him then. 

 

Speaking of rewriting history, Heather asked Franco today if she had really been that bad a mother -- are we being asked ALREADY to forget that she didn't raise him? 

 

Has Sonny done anything in the last six months other than have sex and talk (and talk and talk) about how he's going to kill someone? Geez writers, can't you come up w/ anything else? 

[ciarra]

Has Donna Mills always spoken her lines like her jaws are wired shut?

[Francie]

The award for most OTT person goes to Nina. Her flailing her arms around screaming Mother was cringe worthy. I dont know if its the script or MS but why does Nina always repeat words. Its really annoying.

 

My guess is that Stafford repeats lines for the same reason that Deidre Hall used to take 30 seconds to walk across a room to answer the door -- more screen time, baby!

 

More screen time, baby!

[dubbel zout]

And quit whining about how sad you are! It doesn't fucking matter!!

 

Who in PC is going to care? Certainly not Carly, since once Franco blabs the secret, she'll have bigger problems to deal with. I guess Lauren and Nina are the only ones who'll have any sympathy. LOL. How about you ask the two of them over for cookie dough ice cream and wine, Franco?

[jsbt]

It cracks me up every time Ava gets huffy and turns into Sally Field from Soapdish. Maura West knows exactly what she is doing.

[Harmony233]

I believe so. I do remember that Heather and Scotty lived together for a while, but I think Bobbie was just a distant memory for him then. 

 

Speaking of rewriting history, Heather asked Franco today if she had really been that bad a mother -- are we being asked ALREADY to forget that she didn't raise him? 

 

Has Sonny done anything in the last six months other than have sex and talk (and talk and talk) about how he's going to kill someone? Geez writers, can't you come up w/ anything else? 

one thing that has always annoyed me with longlost kids or purt up for adoptive kids is that they forget about there adoptive parents when they find there bio parents lol.

 

Even though shes crazy Heather might have had a point when she said franco and scott were idiots when it came to women lol.

[Dandesun]

 

Who in PC is going to care? Certainly not Carly, since once Franco blabs the secret, she'll have bigger problems to deal with. I guess Lauren and Nina are the only ones who'll have any sympathy.

 

Lucy might wind up giving a damn if the secrets that come out cause Scotty to dump Bobbie for lying about Carly cheating on Franco with Sonny. If she benefits (gag) she might feel bad for the psycho. And, apparently, she likes the serial killer, too... which is so beyond to me. No no no and NO.

[TeeVee329]

Bobbie better watch out.Heather was not happy that Scott is with Bobbie which makes me wonder what the heck was Heather talking about when she said Bobbie made her lose her chance with scott back in the day.More rewritten history?

 

It drives me crazy how much Franco the SERIAL KILLER looks down on Bobbie because she (GASP) lied to him (the HORRORS)!

[fishsanwitt]

Oy. This show.

 

Nina is CRAY CRAY. The overacting in Nathan's apartment with Donna Mills' character. I can't even remember her name now. 

 

And I'd like to ask, why are Donna's lips so BIG and greasy-looking? They're gross.

 

Sabrina is so dumb. She doesn't know how many pills Ava has taken? Um, how many pills did she start out with and how many times a day (and how many pills) is she supposed to take? Times the number of days she's had them. I suck at math and even I figured that one out.

 

I ff'd Sonny/Shawn - so boring. I also ff'd Robert Frank and Heather.

 

It hurts to look at Bobbie's face. I was hoping it was settling down or in or whatever, but she looks so strange :(

 

That's all I've got.

[Francie]

I'd agree, and I think this is my biggest issue, if this was going to be Franco's endgame and exit story.  But I highly doubt it is and I just know Ron is going to try and walk Franco back from this and sell us on a Franco/Nina crazy supercouple.  Nope.

 

EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY! This is what RC does - he writes absolutely heinous plot lines and then keeps the characters as if nothing has happened. Assuming RH is not leaving, Franco will just be put into another storyline after this one. So will Sonny. And RC will expect the audience to swallow it.

 

This! I was going to say Ron doesn't even bother to have characters "walk back" after they commit heinous acts. He just has them shrug their shoulders and go on with their day.

 

It's apparently "our" problem if we hold a grudge. Sigh.

[jsbt]

I forgot to add, those Spencer/Jones family scenes the other day were the nicest and most organic I have seen with a larger family on this show in a long time. Reminded me of when they used to do those scenes more often. Bobbie has always been one of my favorite characters on GH, and I think Jackie Zeman was far, far more at ease surrounded by Carly, Lucas and even niece Maxie than she has been in ages. She worked, Bobbie worked, the whole family clicked together, and Ryan Carnes and KS had a nice, easy chemistry (not romantic). I wish we could see them and that more often. I got that stuff last summer on the online shows, I get too little of it on TV soaps today.

 

Also, their background reactions as Josslyn lectured Carly about just getting back with Jax were great.

[TeeVee329]

Lucy might wind up giving a damn if the secrets that come out cause Scotty to dump Bobbie for lying about Carly cheating on Franco with Sonny.

 

That's exactly what is going to happen and it fills me with rage.  Sorry, Show, you've done nothing to convince me Scotty gives a shit about Franco.  You definitely haven't convinced me that Scotty gives so much of a shit that Scotty would dump Bobbie because she told a lie to Franco to cover for her own child.  But that is exactly what's coming.  There will be a scene of Scotty bellowing at Bobbie for betraying him and his son and....ARRRRRGH!

Edited October 17, 2014 by TeeVee329

[Harmony233]

Lucy might wind up giving a damn if the secrets that come out cause Scotty to dump Bobbie for lying about Carly cheating on Franco with Sonny. If she benefits (gag) she might feel bad for the psycho. And, apparently, she likes the serial killer, too... which is so beyond to me. No no no and NO.

I'm sure scotty will care too about franco being cheated on.Pyschos or not Scott has always been on his kids side.

[LeftPhalange]

We all know that Ron is going to give Nina a tumor or a mental illness or something and everyone in town will forgive her so in the meantime why not have her start killing people - Sabrina, Ava, Ava's baby, Madeline, Silas, Kiki, Heather, Franco.

 

STFU Franco, you stupid, worthless, cry baby, bitch ass freak. I love how the SERIAL KILLER is acting like Carly cheating on him is literally the worst thing that has ever happened. I guess he forgot that he's a murderer.

[Tiger]

Seriously, what was Michelle Stafford doing today? I really like a legitimate, non-snarky answer if anyone has one. Because that had to be the single most bizarre peice of acting I have ever seen. I don't even know what she was going for or attempting to convey; it was just so strange.

Michael Fairman is wrong, she does not deserve an Emmy. She deserves to have her SAG card pulled and be forbidden from ever appearing on any screen, stage, etc again.

ETA: Donna Mills looked legitimately terrified for her life.

Today, IMHO, Stafford far surpassed Howarth's bizarre "performances" opposite the Partidge Family lady and then when Heather had Carly captured in the catacombs.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Tiger

[Sake614]

Gee Sabrina, you lost your accent while talking to Michael today. Suddenly it was Carlos, not Carrrrlos.

[ulkis]

I forgot to add, those Spencer/Jones family scenes the other day were the nicest and most organic I have seen with a larger family on this show in a long time. Reminded me of when they used to do those scenes more often. Bobbie has always been one of my favorite characters on GH, and I think Jackie Zeman was far, far more at ease surrounded by Carly, Lucas and even niece Maxie than she has been in ages. She worked, Bobbie worked, the whole family clicked together, and Ryan Carnes and KS had a nice, easy chemistry (not romantic). 

 

I definitely think they could work it to their advantage if they were playing characters who had the potential to be paired romantically though. In any case, I just thought it emphasized how there's nothing really there between her and Ryan Paevey (imo). I think a lot of the time actors can create chemistry as they go though, so I'm not saying it as a diss necessarily. I think the concept of chemistry (at least romantic) is overrated. But it's always nice when it's there right away, of course.

[TeeVee329]

Oh gawd, and now I'm picturing a scene where Heather meets Nina and is just delighted by her and thinks she and Franco would make a fabulous couple. #killmenow

[Lillybee]

I had to giggle when stupid Kiki tells Silas not to make her a liar. Kiki is the lying liar who lies.

[BestestAuntEver]

MSt needs to be rained in. This shit is absolutely ridiculous. The screeching, flailing, repeating & using random objects is...I don't have sufficient words for the utter crap she has presented on screen as acting the past 2 days. Also, when is she going to get off the damn screen. Does she not have a minimum because she needs a long break off screen.

 

Oh gawd, and now I'm picturing a scene where Heather meets Nina and is just delighted by her and thinks she and Franco would make a fabulous couple. #killmenow

 

 

Yeah! Ron, will be as subtle as usual meaning a 10,00lb anvil or sledgehammer wheeled by a drwarf from the Lord of the Rings.

 

 I thought Sabrina/Micheal sparkled.

 

 

I didn't. I saw TeCa loosing eye contact while turning &  watching almost every day player walk by. Then she went into her sad/pathetic huffy sassy mode. 

 

All you lovely people that guessed Sabrina would try to tun herself in & Felix would stop her were spot on.You guys win,  3 hots & a cot.

It almost seemed like they were attempting to chem test Sabrina with Nathan & Micheal today. IMO, the test failed because there wasn't any chemistry or sparks generated.

 

This! I was going to say Ron doesn't even bother to have characters "walk back" after they commit heinous acts. He just has them shrug their shoulders and go on with their day.

It's apparently "our" problem if we hold a grudge. Sigh.

 

 

THIS. Sabrina attempted to kill Ava's baby because of grief, so it's all good. It wasn't her. It was the grief. Let's move on & if you don't Ron will berate you on twitter. 

 

The Ava/Morgan scenes did make me go, aawww.  To bad Kaka's stupid face is about to be back in the mix. One question I've kept asking is, "don't mob people have their own personal mob doctor to handle these types of things?". I know I'm trying to make sense & Ron only makes plot points.

 

Are we not going to get another scene of Maxie & Lucas together?

 

ETA:

Dear Show, when you need vile words to describe the lying snarling Carly please feel free to utilize the inventive words from this board. There was no reason hag & witch were used multiple times. you employ writers that should have a greater imagination & vocabulary. If, not then a thesauruses can be found on Word, the internet for free or downloaded to their phone.

Edited October 17, 2014 by BestestAuntEver

[Chairperson Meow]

Nothing will ever be as bad as whatever the hell it was MSt was doing today.

[Harmony233]

Truthfully Heather has never gotten aong with other women.Look at the way she was harping on poor Bobbie today.Although Heather might just like nina because shes not carly lol.

Nothing will ever be as bad as whatever the hell it was MSt was doing today.

She seemed more crazier than Heather.She played it more OTT.

[Box305]

I turned it on during one of the Nina/Magda scenes (around 20-22 mins in) and after Nina's "MOTHER MOTHER MOTHERRRRR" I had to change the channel. I couldn't take it. 

[TeeVee329]

I'm still expecting to hear eventually, "Nina's off her meds, she has a medical condition, it's not her fault".  It'll be her version of "It was the tumor!"

[Dandesun]

 

Dear Show, when you need vile words to describe the lying snarling Carly please feel free to utilize the inventive words from this board. There was no reason hag & witch were used multiple times. you employ writers that should have a greater imagination & vocabulary. If, not then a thesauruses can be found on Word, the internet for free or downloaded to their phone.

 

Why can't they use the term 'mewling quim?' Loki used it in Avengers and that's Marvel which is owned by Disney which owns ABC. And it's better than 'witch' any day of the week.

[Lillybee]

I think that Sonny may be in the crazies club, too, especially when he said to Shawn "you don't really know me, I always have plans".

[Chairperson Meow]

Sonny's list is scrawled in crayon and dripping with tan oil.

[TeeVee329]

How about Nina screaming about Magda being at the TOP of the list and then she was CROSSED OFF the list but now she's back ON the list just to be CROSSED OFF the list again.

 

GAH!

[WendyCR72]

MSt needs to be rained in. This shit is absolutely ridiculous. The screeching, flailing, repeating & using random objects is...I don't have sufficient words for the utter crap she has presented on screen as acting the past 2 days. Also, when is she going to get off the damn screen. Does she not have a minimum because she needs a long break off screen.

 

 

Yeah! Ron, will be as subtle as usual meaning a 10,00lb anvil or sledgehammer wheeled by a drwarf from the Lord of the Rings.

 

 

I didn't. I saw TeCa loosing eye contact while turning &  watching almost every day player walk by. Then she went into her sad/pathetic huffy sassy mode. 

 

All you lovely people that guessed Sabrina would try to tun herself in & Felix would stop her were spot on.You guys win,  3 hots & a cot.

It almost seemed like they were attempting to chem test Sabrina with Nathan & Micheal today. IMO, the test failed because there wasn't any chemistry or sparks generated.

 

 

THIS. Sabrina attempted to kill Ava's baby because of grief, so it's all good. It wasn't her. It was the grief. Let's move on & if you don't Ron will berate you on twitter. 

 

The Ava/Morgan scenes did make me go, aawww.  To bad Kaka's stupid face is about to be back in the mix. One question I've kept asking is, "don't mob people have their own personal mob doctor to handle these types of things?". I know I'm trying to make sense & Ron only makes plot points.

 

Are we not going to get another scene of Maxie & Lucas together?

 

ETA:

Dear Show, when you need vile words to describe the lying snarling Carly please feel free to utilize the inventive words from this board. There was no reason hag & witch were used multiple times. you employ writers that should have a greater imagination & vocabulary. If, not then a thesauruses can be found on Word, the internet for free or downloaded to their phone.

 

Just get RID OF Sabrina. The cast is bloated, Sobby serves no purpose, and she sucks with any male thus far. And she can take Felix with her already.

[HeatLifer]

In honor of Nina's MOTHER! MOTHER! MOTHER! MOTHER!, all I have to say is RON! RON! RON! RON! RON! Please stop, Ron.

This episode minus Morgan was comprised of everyone I hate. Damn.

[ulkis]

Why can't they use the term 'mewling quim?' Loki used it in Avengers and that's Marvel which is owned by Disney which owns ABC. And it's better than 'witch' any day of the week.

 

Nah, GH already uses too many old-fashioned words for bitch and whore (hag, shrew, tramp). We don't need to give the show another one, heh.

Edited October 17, 2014 by ulkis

[sometimesfan]

MSt's performance today made me wonder if Gina Tognoni is sitting over at Y&R thinking that she won the lottery. I didn't even like GT her last go round on OLTL and was so ready for her to leave there, but I'm watching her now thinking how much better I like her Phyllis over THE PHYLLIS. And I liked THE PHYLLIS, but The Nina???  No, just no.

 

Then there's that pesky little matter that even while knowing Easton is still filming, The Nina failed to get the job done. Silas still breathes, he still walks, and he still rolls his eyes. The Nina must do better next time.

Nah, GH already uses too many old-fashioned words for bitch and whore (hag, shrew, tramp). We don't need to give the show another one, heh.

 

"She-wolf" was Asa's. I'm telling PP! I'm telling PP! (she said, channeling The Nina).

[TeeVee329]

You'd think, being such a "Golden Girls" fanboy, Ron would have plenty of different phrases to use.  Dorothy and Rose came up with new ways to call Blanche a slut every week!

[Dandesun]

 

"She-wolf" was Asa's. I'm telling PP! I'm telling PP! (she said, channeling The Nina).

 

And he tended to use it in reference to Blair. In fact, "She-wolf from Hell" was very definitely a phrase he used in regards to her more than once. (Todd called Blair a she-wolf more than once, too.)

 

The thing is, I never understood why that was supposed to be a bad thing. Wolves are awesome.

[OnceSane]

MSt was just horrendous today. I'm surprised DM didn't grab a bottle of holy water & dump it on MSt's head.

[Lillybee]

Didn't Nik fund a waterfront clinic, too? What happened to that one? It might make some sense if Michael would talk to Nik about it.

[magnolia11]

Didn't Nik fund a waterfront clinic, too? What happened to that one? It might make some sense if Michael would talk to Nik about it.

 

Yes!  It was named after Emily and somehow tied into the counterfeit drug storyline that Sam and Lucky were involved with.  One day the storyline just vanished into the ether and neither it nor the clinic were ever mentioned again.

[LeftPhalange]

Is RH contract up soon? I need him and Franco to be gone after Sonny is exposed.

[Ambrosefolly]

"Whatever happen to that guy anyway?" Carly (about Stefan)

 

He died you moron. Your Uncle Luke killed him in a knife fight. Sorry he "committed suicide" because he wanted Luke to kill him (isn't assisted suicide illegal in New York?) after Guza brought him back to play the heavy in Nikolas and Emily. Turns out the only thing Stefan needed to get Lydia (Nikolas's intended fiancee) dating someone else so Nik could be attracted to her. 

 

I know that Nina's is crazy balls and MSt has much to be desired, but didn't make her mom nearly killing and causing a miscarriage and Silas cheating on her (especially after he used her families money to finance med school) okay. 

Edited October 18, 2014 by Ambrosefolly

[dubbel zout]

LOL that Maxie has a picture of herself on the mantel in her living room. It's totally in character, but it's still funny.

 

"With the exception of me, no one hates Franco more—than his own mother." Uh, Sonny, I think you might want to check with Michael about that.

 

Sonny and Shawn plotting was UCG.

 

Aw, Bobbie still believes marriage is forever. "You don't want to be shackled to someone you don't like for the rest of your life." How many times have both she and Carly been married? Hee.

 

MY GOD Lauren sucks.

[Harmony233]

LOL that Maxie has a picture of herself on the mantel in her living room. It's totally in character, but it's still funny.

 

"With the exception of me, no one hates Franco more—than his own mother." Uh, Sonny, I think you might want to check with Michael about that.

 

Sonny and Shawn plotting was UCG.

 

Aw, Bobbie still believes marriage is forever. "You don't want to be shackled to someone you don't like for the rest of your life." How many times have both she and Carly been married? Hee.

 

MY GOD Lauren sucks.

THe dumbest comment about sonny is that Heather doesn't even hate Franco lol.I still have no clue as to what Sonnys plan is Heather certainely doesn't need there help in escaping from mental hospitals lol.

 

THe waterfront has had so many clinics through the years its not even funny but at least the waterfront still exists.

[Ambrosefolly]

Part of me feels a little bad that Sonny is targeting someone that not only is mentally ill but actually is doing time for crimes she committed, another part of me hopes that is this is written true to how Heather has been written since 2005, Sonny will find himself in over his head. I am sure she has better shot than Shawn. 

Edited October 18, 2014 by Ambrosefolly

[Perkie]

 

Don't know why she couldn't go home with Jordan. No one would think to look there, and Jordan wouldn't give away that Ava was there. Plus, Jordan has no problem shooting people.

I don't think we've seen a set for Jordan yet.  plus she's shagging Shawn so she can't hide Ava.  

[Lillybee]

At least Sonny plans on framing a person who is already sentenced to be locked up for life.

[yowsah1]

I thought Sabrina/Micheal sparkled. I could get behind them.

 

I saw sparklage too, and I've been pushing for Michael/Sabrina since she first came on the show.  They just seem to be a much better fit.  And, their pairing isn't saddled with the inherent grossness of the Patrick/Sam ickfest.  Only problem with a Michael/Sabrina pairing is that it would leave Kiki without a boyfriend, and I can't think of a male character in her age range I hate enough to want to see saddled with her.  (Where have you gone, Levi Dunkelman, a fandom turns it's lonely eyes to you...).  If Kiki digs older men I have the perfect guy for her - Patrick.  Hey, they are both loathesome hypocritical narcissists, it'll be a perfect match!  Or at least easily fast-forwardable.

 

Part of me feels a little bad that Sonny is targeting someone that not only is mentally ill but actually is doing time for crimes she committed, another part of me hopes that is this is written true to how Heather has been written since 2005, Sonny will find himself in over his head.

 

I would love it if, in his bumbling attempts to cover up his latest atrocity, Sonny manages to piss off every single murderous psycho in town, and they all take turns tormenting the hell out of him for the rest of his slimey, miserable existence.

[tvgoddess]

 

Nina seemed more crazier than Heather did today lol.

 

Nina made Heather look sane. Yeah, um...wow. I was simultaneously annoyed, fascinated and somewhat in shock. The repeating, the flailing, but yet there were a few seconds in there that made me say, yeah I could see her being good once upon a time. But shut up, Nina. God, the whole I have to have a baby is 10 times worse than Lulu's baby rabies, and that's saying something. Stay the hell away from Ava and her baby. I have to confess though I liked the who you gonna call line. I know, I know. Put my name at the top of the list. And then cross it out.

 

 

LOL that Maxie has a picture of herself on the mantel in her living room. It's totally in character, but it's still funny.

 

I love little details like that, and that picture of her made me grin myself silly.

 

Ah, well I predicted that Kiki would be a complete useless waste on this mission, so I'm glad to see I wasn't disappointed. Seriously, she sits there for like 20 minutes?! Idiot.

 

I really don't care, I will never stop wanting Ava and Morgan together, especially when he was as sweet as he was to her today. Awww, damn it. And Maura West continues to rule all. For me, anyway.

 

Sabrina fits in better with Michael than she did with Patrick, but a) that's hardly saying much, b) her annoyingness outweighed any potential sparkage and c) she's a fucking baby killer*. Burn in hell, Sobby.

 

I really love RM, and I was amused by RH's religious calling. And plotting against Sonny? Count me in.

 

Not a bad show, even amid all the cray.

 

*Even if the baby lives, she's still a baby killer to me.

Edited October 18, 2014 by tvgoddess

[CPP83]

My hope would be that Heather finds out about Sonny and Shawn's plans and hangs them both from the rafters by their balls and uses them as human pinatas.

 

There's so much bad acting and writing and story telling going on right now it seems almost impossible to comprehend.

[ciarra]

Since there's already an Emily Bowen Quartermaine free clinic, why doesn't Michael honor AJ with an addictions treatment center instead? 

 

Remind me if I'm ever in trouble not to send Kiki for help.  Kiki, "Must.get.help.  Squirrel!  Now what was I doing?  I forget."

[WhoaWhoKnew]

Is there any real reason why Kiki does nothing but wander the streets all day looking for someone's business to stick her nose in?

Why can't she work at Kelly's or the MetroCourt? Why not finish college? Volunteer at the hospital? SOMETHING.

[Turtle]

I have no idea what in the hell was going on with Nina today.  I mean, I get it, she's pissed at her mom and a little unstable, but still.  That was.. special.  And not in a good way.  I love me some crazy on soaps, but whatever that was, it was not good-time soap crazy.  I don't even know.  

 

Halloween can't get here soon enough, because I'm tired of all these convoluted "twists".  So forced.  Any bets on how many show-days "Halloween" takes?  I'm guess 13.