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10 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I think the show is doing that though. Both Dante and Carly told Laura it might not be Valentin.

They did say that, but the show is leaning harder on Valentin did it than he didn't. I know, that's mostly to keep the story going.

I can't entirely hate Valentin because he's one of the few people who's not afraid to call out Spencer's behavior for what it is: obnoxious, rude, and entitled.

I think GF went overboard with her gasp when the eyewitness recognized Valentin.

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18 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Is she? When did they find out? Like two months ago, no?

Beginning of May, which was two months ago.  but if she was about 8 weeks at that time, then she'd be around 4 months now.  But then Sam didn't look pregnant until she fell down into the non watered creek, so who knows!

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27 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It was weird enough I wondered if the show was using a green screen for the background. The whole thing was strange.

I think it was weird because it was probably built for just that scene so they built it flimsily. Well, more so than usual.

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Are we supposed to believe that the laptop Liesl was using was her own personal property and not a hospital computer? She took it with her but why would the hospital allow any employee to use a private, unsecured computer for work. And didn't she tell Hayden that she was downloading personal files? To where? There was only one laptop. 

Lastly, since she was fired for cause, shouldn't she have been escorted off the property and had her personal effects mailed to her? I know, I know, GH. But that bugged me.

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On 7/15/2017 at 4:24 PM, MarciNJ said:

 Catcing up on Thursday and Friday shows. Carly's  face is a fright, but her hair has been on point.

Felicia looks great, has she had work done? She should share the name of her doctor....   

And, who was Scott's bio dad?

But I never realized how annoying Felicia's voice is. I don't remember it being like that?

I remember when she and Jack Wagner were on The Merv Griffin Show together.  Now Jack Wager is doing Hallmark and other tv movies, the most recent with Josie Bissett, who now looks like his mom with her platinum/white/whatever hair.

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

They did say that, but the show is leaning harder on Valentin did it than he didn't. I know, that's mostly to keep the story going.

I can't entirely hate Valentin because he's one of the few people who's not afraid to call out Spencer's behavior for what it is: obnoxious, rude, and entitled.

I think GF went overboard with her gasp when the eyewitness recognized Valentin.

GF went overboard for sure in that moment. She should kind of know better by now.

 

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but is Liesl's accent actually real? Reminds me of Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle. 

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3 hours ago, Vella said:

Then Joss showed up crying, blaming herself for Spencer going missing.  Remember how we all knew that there would be a point where Joss would do an about face and immediately, jarringly be on Sonny's side again?

I was going to ask, has Josslyn even met Spencer? And then I remembered pre-SORASed Joss went to Lila's Kids camp w/Spencer, Cam and Emma during that awful kiddie quad storyline. Her worry about Spencer though is weird since he is the child of Nikolas (no relation to Joss) and Sonny's late half sister. Joss definitely didn't know blondie, and I can't recall a single scene that involved Sonny, Joss and Spencer interacting. I don't think Spencer has even been in PC for S&C's latest marriage (up until the last few weeks or so), which means he hasn't been present in their lives while Joss was living in Sonny's house.  Now if Avery had gone missing, I would believe Josslyn would be crying.

Also, Laura should know Spencer once took off on his own, in the hopes of Britt and his father getting back together.   The immediate fear for him seems OTT (and a very obviously deliberate ploy by TPTB to prop Sonny).

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35 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Also, Laura should know Spencer once took off on his own, in the hopes of Britt and his father getting back together.   The immediate fear for him seems OTT (and a very obviously deliberate ploy by TPTB to prop Sonny).

It's a double prop job, for him and Valentin.

38 minutes ago, seasons said:

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but is Liesl's accent actually real? Reminds me of Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle. 

No, it's not.

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53 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I was going to ask, has Josslyn even met Spencer?

They had several scenes together last week, at the camp, with Joss' boyfriend Oscar.  The implication is that they know each other very well (which they do since they played together when they were the same age).  

 

18 minutes ago, ulkis said:

but is Liesl's accent actually real?

Nope.  Kathleen Gahti is actually Canadian.  

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3 hours ago, Perkie said:

Sonny finds it ironic that at the moment he's deciding to get out of the business, someone needs him back in to help.  Yep, that's irony for ya, or really bad writing.    Joss shows up, upset because she was responsible for the campers and yet managed to lose Spencer.  

I guess he didn't count yesterday, when he told Ava he'd come after her if she dared to have plastic surgery or do anything else to try mitigate her scars right after he had finished swearing to Carly that he was done. 

 

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

Dante has Valentin sent down to the holding cells.  

Dante has Valentin sent down to the holding  always open, public, witness baiting cells.   

Fixed that for you. ;-)

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I hope Spencer grows into a handsome prince while in the cellar. 

I hope they don't dispatch with Rachel in such a manner that we get another round of emo Finn. 

Has anyone been missing Franco? Anyone? Anyone at all? ... ... yeah I didn't think so. 

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

 

LOL that Joss needs permission to get into Sonny's house. Way to make her feel welcome!

 

Sonny must have gotten new guards. Because with Laura and now Joss, it was the first time anyone was was announced before entering Sonny's place.

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does anyone think they might let go of Dillon or they'll just trot him out once in a while as Kiki's boyfriend?

It's sad that Kiki is the more important of the character of the two in that pairing.

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

 

Nice police work, Dante, letting the kidnap victim's grandmother watch and listen to you question an eye witness. It's bad enough Dante is Spencer's uncle.

 

Talk about yet another police investigating muck-up.  Done so Sonny can swoop in and save the day.

and, oy, Genie Francis was wayyyy over-acting today.  Between the gasping at the ~witness, that awful smug smile when Valentin got arrested and her bug eyes when talking to him--not good.

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3 hours ago, Perkie said:

They had several scenes together last week, at the camp, with Joss' boyfriend Oscar.  The implication is that they know each other very well (which they do since they played together when they were the same age).  

I laughed. And thought of poor Cam, who is younger than Joss now despite being born years before her. Hmm, should Spencer be older than Joss, too?

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Spencer not only disappeared when he wanted his father and Britt to get together, he just lied his way out of his boarding school and app'ed his way to Port Charles.  Spencer missing should have been taken with a shaker of salt.

4 hours ago, seasons said:

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but is Liesl's accent actually real? Reminds me of Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle. 

And you haven't even heard her Raisa, the Russian maid on Arrow.  (Actually she does quite well with the German lines.)

She was born in Canada, of Hungarian parents so no accent unless you think of Canadian as an accent.  (Father was a symphony conductor, mother an opera singer which could explain Liesl's singing ability.)  She done a number of Hungarian films and won a number of awards there and here including Best Actress ones which explains why she's better than many of this cast.

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2 hours ago, ulkis said:

does anyone think they might let go of Dillon or they'll just trot him out once in a while as Kiki's boyfriend?

It's sad that Kiki is the more important of the character of the two in that pairing.

It's crazy these two don't have any kind of story.  I do sorta think they were supposed to get stuck with Amy 2.0, but that got rejiggered when KS had to take leave.

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2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

It's crazy these two don't have any kind of story.  I do sorta think they were supposed to get stuck with Amy 2.0, but that got rejiggered when KS had to take leave.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. 

They're lucky MW re-signed because otherwise I think they probably would have followed her, given now we have Nelle filling the spot in that age group for women.

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It's so stupid that only the twentysomething girl that gets any story/screen time love is the one Michael and/or Morgan is screwing.  It's not even just Kiki now that she's with a Q, look at all the nothing that Molly and Kristina get to do.

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1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

It's so stupid that only the twenty-something girl that gets any story/screen time love is the one Michael and/or Morgan is screwing.  It's not even just Kiki now that she's with a Q, look at all the nothing that Molly and Kristina get to do.

Yeah, although in the case of Michael and Nelle I feel Nelle is much more favored.

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I dunno, they pushed Kristen Alderson Kiki on us HARD that first year or so, but that might have been more about Kristen Alderson.  

The continued push on Nelle seems like the kind of double-down thing I used to accuse Ron of.  "We brought back Chloe Lanier like you wanted, and you're still bitching.  Well, we're going to cram her down your throats until you submit!".

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On July 19, 2017 at 3:56 PM, TeeVee329 said:

Previews...Spencer's only been missing five minutes, but Laura's already given up on the cops and gone to Sonny for help?!?!?

I hate this fucking show.

I actually think it makes more sense than anything on this show for quite a while.  Sonny has connections that are very unlikely to talk to the cops.  He also knows people who aren't going to waste time worrying about search warrants, chain of evidence, and proper procedures.  Plus Spencer is the son of Sonny's tragically departed sister, so he will be invested in the outcome.   I would have gone to him sooner.  

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I have to give it to Obrecht; she did a pretty good job of getting the former fiancé to meet with her, revealing that she's a doctor, she will meet with him "wherever it's convenient," and it's something she can't talk about over the phone. He'll be so relieved when he gets there and doesn't learn he has a sexually transmitted disease.  

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9 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I cannot believe the big summer story is all about SPENCER. This isn't what I meant when I said I was okay with him being around only in the summer, Show.

Hmm well turn the kaleidoscope f few degrees and you'll see the summer is all about Sonny, really:

[A few developments that feature Sonny, not in chronological order]:

  • Sonny wins Carly back by telling her he is getting out of the mob.
  • Sonny has scenes with Jason to try to convince Jason to take over his mob share or go into legitimate business together.
  • Meanwhile, Sonny hallucinations are bugging Sam.
  • Joss has problematic scenes with Sonny, yet earnestly asks for Sonny's influence and help to rescue Spencer.
  • Spencer asks Sonny to do a hit on Valentin, and is lectured by Sonny.
  • Sonny pops up in park to talk to various children on the show.
  • Laura asks Sonny to find missing Spencer.
  • Evul Sonny pops up next to Ava in hospital to taunt her about Avery's custody loss to himself.
  • Sonny shows up at the wedding of Ned and  Olivia after bride issues a special invitation.
  • Sonny is planning to set up a meeting of all the five mob families.
  • Sonny had quiet words with Kevin, advising him to help Laura with Spencer, etc.
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Frank likes to promote young blondes (or previously, Kristen Alderson of varying hair colors). I think ever since he came to GH - and even before then with some capable young folks at OLTL, come to think of it - he has deliberately downgraded and marginalized any and all young talent that might infringe on the prominence of his chosen one or two youth stars. He is constantly obsessed with the youth/teen demographics on his soaps but he refuses to engage with building a cohesive or well-balanced youth set to tick a lot of boxes beyond one or two teen dreams, or now even just like one young woman at a time. These days I think that shift has a lot to do with being distracted by other biases, like his other older hires that have not gone over (Howarth, Stafford, Easton, Budig, etc).

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6 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

I actually think it makes more sense than anything on this show for quite a while.  Sonny has connections that are very unlikely to talk to the cops.  He also knows people who aren't going to waste time worrying about search warrants, chain of evidence, and proper procedures.  Plus Spencer is the son of Sonny's tragically departed sister, so he will be invested in the outcome.   I would have gone to him sooner.  

But it hasn't even been a full day.  She has this little confidence in the cops, including son-in-law Dante?

Also, she's convinced it's Valentin.  So why not reach out to someone like Anna, or even off-screen Robert at the WSB, they'd have a better handle on who Valentin's associates are.

15 minutes ago, jsbt said:

Frank likes to promote young blondes (or previously, Kristen Alderson of varying hair colors). I think ever since he came to GH - and even before then with some capable young folks at OLTL, come to think of it - he has deliberately downgraded and marginalized any and all young talent that might infringe on the prominence of his chosen one or two youth stars.

For example, like you always said, Langston and Markko getting nothing real to do but be sidekicks to Starr and Cole on OLTL.

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16 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

They did say that, but the show is leaning harder on Valentin did it than he didn't. I know, that's mostly to keep the story going.

I can't entirely hate Valentin because he's one of the few people who's not afraid to call out Spencer's behavior for what it is: obnoxious, rude, and entitled.

I think GF went overboard with her gasp when the eyewitness recognized Valentin.

I can't seem to hate Valentin at all, mostly because pretty much everyone on the show hates him. I love that he calls out Spencer's behavior, it's about time somebody acknowledges what an entitled brat he is. 

Yeah, that GF gasp was heard 'round the world. I almost think if Laura wasn't up Dante's ass when he was questioning that woman he may not have arrested Valentin, I'm thinking the 'witness' was paid to go in and say it was Valentin since her vision was called into question, I'm just grasping at straws of course, but we saw someone put some kind of black thing over Spencer's head, wouldn't she have mentioned a man was dragging a kid away with his head covered?

I just don't get how nearly everyone involved in the investigation hates Valentin for personal reasons yet we're supposed to believe they're not biased. Even Nathan just wants his sister away from him. 

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Talk about yet another police investigating muck-up.  Done so Sonny can swoop in and save the day.

and, oy, Genie Francis was wayyyy over-acting today.  Between the gasping at the ~witness, that awful smug smile when Valentin got arrested and her bug eyes when talking to him--not good.

Or in fewer words, this.

That smug smile turned every ounce of Laura love into Laura hate. Yeah, I know, she believes Valentin killed her son and kidnapped her grandson but it was all so stupid. Going to Sonny made me think of Laura hating Sonny when Lucky 'died' in the fire. Why is she kissing his ass now? I really hope they wrap this up fast. It just sucks that Sonny is going to wind up the hero. Again. Please Sam, pull that trigger and don't stop until there's no more bullets left, and no more Sonny.

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10 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

It's so stupid that only the twentysomething girl that gets any story/screen time love is the one Michael and/or Morgan is screwing.  It's not even just Kiki now that she's with a Q, look at all the nothing that Molly and Kristina get to do.

This! Yet the show has oodles of time to show retreads Alexis and Julian flirting and threatening each other, probably using recycled dialogue and scripts. Pathetic attempts by NLG to look young by batting her eyelashes and twitching ( as irritating as MB's stuttering) have nearly driven me over the edge. So glad for fast-forward. Now she's lost about 10 pounds to look younger too I suppose but appears scary undernourished to me.

William DeVry has never projected teh evul to me, and subverts his acting effort in favor of toned muscles and slim waist-to-hip ratio.  Consequently, Alexis and Julian are more like a plastic Barbie-and-Ken wannabe couple instead of being human. I can't bear to watch them, and it sucks that the younger actors can't get stories because this older couple is vamping up the stage.

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19 hours ago, Perkie said:

Hayden gets angry when she finds Liesl hasn't left the building yet.  Liesl claims she was only getting her things and accuses Hayden of ruining her life.  Later, Liesl continues to try and find dirt on Hayden online.  She finds an old wedding announcement about Rachel Berlin and calls the former fiance.  

Baxter Corbin? This is will be awesomesauce in Haus Nutmeg ONLY because the actor has been appearing in the Progressive Soap Opera commercials with Susan Lucci, and both of us will be berating characters in his sotto voce. ("Go back to being evil, Liesl Obrecht!" "You can HAVE the last candy bar, Dr. Finn Hamilton!" "Oh, come ON, Sonny Corinthos!".....)

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12 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Spencer not only disappeared when he wanted his father and Britt to get together, he just lied his way out of his boarding school and app'ed his way to Port Charles.  Spencer missing should have been taken with a shaker of salt.

But now we have big bad Valentin around. I'm sure he'll be blamed when Spencer gets a blister.

10 minutes ago, NutmegsDad said:

Baxter Corbin? This is will be awesomesauce in Haus Nutmeg ONLY because the actor has been appearing in the Progressive Soap Opera commercials with Susan Lucci, and both of us will be berating characters in his sotto voce. ("Go back to being evil, Liesl Obrecht!" "You can HAVE the last candy bar, Dr. Finn Hamilton!" "Oh, come ON, Sonny Corinthos!".....)

I love, love, love those Geico ads. I don't know how they all got through them without cracking up the whole time, as I start to laugh as soon as they come on. (As a side note, he's got to be making pretty good bank; he's been doing Geico ads for a while now. He was the cowboy who got knocked off his horse by the Geico logo in a previous series. Though I see from IMDB that he's had a decent guest-actor career.)

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Oh no White House has apparently scheduled a press conference as to Spicer leaving and it is set for General Hospital time today!? I hope not because I am sick of interruptions of this timeslot like Obama used to do so his spoiled MIL didn't have her fave soap interrupted instead.

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You shouldn't have had that bronzer in the first place, Ava. Good riddance to it.

Laura should be talking to Johnny's guys, not to Sonny. Johnny's guys would find Spencer immediately.

I hope the next time Jason whines about having to see a doctor, Sam slaps back with his "we want this over with, so you have to see someone." Ugh. 

LOL at Nathan's reaction to Valentin getting out on bail. That's kind of the point of bail, nimrod.

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I guess Nina borrowed Alexis' copy of How to Deal with Your Criminal Ex-husband, because she seems to be making all the same moves. Going out of her way to post his outrageous bail and being his biggest supporter is not the way to kill his hope that they can reconcile. I don't blame Nathan for being exhausted by Nina. It shouldn't be his responsibility to console Nina every time she willfully walks into an unstable situation.

The Gilmore Girls-esque conversation between Joss and Carly was painful. Why would I want to see these two bond when it's so much more preferable to see Joss giving Carly the hell she deserves?

Genie did a nice job today. Laura looked exhausted, and her frustration and anger were palpable. It also looked like she could have literally snapped Valentin in half, which was super amusing to me. JPS is such a slight man.

"You've had to pay the price of karma, and Sonny hasn't. And wouldn't you like to be around when he does?" I don't care if it's only Sam's sickness making her talk like this, she's speaking my language and I'm all ears. Plus she gave Ava a much needed glimmer of hope, so those scenes were a win in my book.

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I love those Progressive Soap Opera Commercials, with Susan Lucci.   I've also seen this actor playing the husband in those spots, Tom Parker (ex-Baxter Corbin) appearing as a bug-killing exterminator in a new Terminix commercial.  Parker reminds me of Kent McCord from Adam-12.  

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What are those plastic masks supposed to do? Protect Ava's face from schmutz and infection?

Sweet baby Jasus, Laura. If you don't believe Valentin, why even talk to him?

I died laughing when Hallucination!Sonny swooped in behind Sam and taunted her. It was so cheesy. I loved it.

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"Help me, Sonny-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope."

Gross. Why can't Laura have connections of her own? She was married to Luke for a hundred years. Anna was WSB and has (baffling) history with Valentin. Alexis probably knows what Cassadine resources he has and what he might be able to do with them. Her son-in-law is a cop. Her own son is off somewhere being an WSB agent having adventures and has the skill set to track down a missing kid. Hey, I bet Scotty knows shady people, too. I also join those who don't understand why she won't even entertain the idea that Spencer ran away.

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1 hour ago, Linny said:

I guess Nina borrowed Alexis' copy of How to Deal with Your Criminal Ex-husband, because she seems to be making all the same moves.

How to Deal with Your Criminal Ex-Husband is a self-help book written by Carly.  Carly, Nina and Alexis should form a support group.  Laura could be a guest speaker to offer inspiration to the group because she was able to walk away from her criminal ex-husband, Luke, and has found love with a handsome law abiding doctor.

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1 hour ago, Linny said:

Genie did a nice job today. Laura looked exhausted, and her frustration and anger were palpable. It also looked like she could have literally snapped Valentin in half, which was super amusing to me. JPS is such a slight man.

Where did Kevin go? I get that Jon Lindstrom is recurring and heaven forbid you pay him anymore than absolutely needed, but it doesn't even make sense from a narrative perspective. Kevin wouldn't have left Laura alone at the station, not when on Wednesday she was clearly mere seconds away from falling apart emotionally.

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25 minutes ago, seasons said:

That scene on the dock with Laura and Valentin.

Been watching on and off for 40+ years, never realized how unfortunate GF's acting can be.

Even Jane Elliot had terrible days, with the way they tape.

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28 minutes ago, ulkis said:

That scene on the dock with Laura and Valentin.

Been watching on and off for 40+ years, never realized how unfortunate GF's acting can be.

Laura is getting on my last nerve, but I suppose GF has to have some reels for Emmy-bait. Still....

I snark, and therefore I am. But must praise that scene between Sam and Ava today when Sam appealed gently to Ava's maternal instinct about being there for Avery's life instead of being a victim to Sonny. And I cheered with wonder when she gently placed the medical mask on Ava's face and took her to the mirror, reawakening Ava's self instincts and hope about healing her body and her soul. How different from the parallel but ugly scene where CarSon mocked Ava and trampled her spirit of survival, telling her that her face is now as ugly as her soul. Sam articulating the thought that Ava had paid her karma, whereas Sonny hasn't, was much appreciated by this fan. Brava Sam! I have new respect for you.

Isn't Ava Sam's aunt? Why doesn't Sam ever call her "Aunt Ava"? Curtis is always calling Stella "Auntie," but maybe we Southerners are more partial to that type of title.

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If Sam acknowledged her as her aunt it would mean there was a connection that doesn't revolve around Sonny.

Are we supposed to think that Carson attacking Ava is Yay Sonhny and Carly, and "crazy Sam" because she's nice to Ava?

8 hours ago, tveyeonyou said:

I just don't get how nearly everyone involved in the investigation hates Valentin for personal reasons yet we're supposed to believe they're not biased. Even Nathan just wants his sister away from him. 

I don't get why they think Sonny is the hero of the show but there it is.

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Remember when Sonny blamed everything that went wrong on Julian, without any evidence or causal connections? Now suddenly his immediate suspicion falls on Valentin as the Cause of All Evul. Yes, Valentin apparently shot Nik, but no corpse is there to prove he died, and people like Laura .and Sonny refuse to consider that Nik may have faked his own death. Moreover, they refuse to believe that precocious Spencer might be trying to get attention and support by running away and hiding. If Valentin survives this calumny and the real culprits are found, I hope that Laura and Sonny have the decency to apologize to Valentin.

In the meantime, given other hints that the writers have dropped, I won't be surprised at all if Nik kidnapped his own son so that suspicion will fall on Valentin.

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

What are those plastic masks supposed to do? Protect Ava's face from schmutz and infection?

Sweet baby Jasus, Laura. If you don't believe Valentin, why even talk to him?

I died laughing when Hallucination!Sonny swooped in behind Sam and taunted her. It was so cheesy. I loved it.

Previews: MAC!!!!!

The mask provides compression, helping to keep skin smoother as it heals and reducing scarring. 

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So, Carly is dating Wyatt Halliwell. Interesting.

JPS & MS reactions to GF's overacting are priceless. And JPS & MS are the worst overacting hams around.

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1 minute ago, RedheadZombie said:

The mask provides compression, helping to keep skin smoother as it heals and reducing scarring. 

Thanks, RedheadZombie.

4 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

I hope that Laura and Sonny have the decency to apologize to Valentin.

LOL. Laura might grudgingly say she's sorry she clocked Valentin with a crowbar, but there's no way Sonny will apologize about anything.

I think one reason Sam doesn't use the "aunt" honorific with Ava is that a) they met as adults, and b) they don't really know each other. Curtis has known Stella his entire life.

Ava basically kicked Julian out of the apartment because of her giant pity party, right? I had to laugh when she ordered a case of vodka. It was also amusing that she was clearly expecting (hoping?) the delivery guy would take one look at her and run away screaming. I get that Ava is vain and has used her looks to advance her career and such, but at worst she looks as if she had a bad run-in with a bunch of bees. Good lord.

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