Episode Discussion: TFGH

[OnceSane]

Just now, ulkis said:

You realize you've just created baby Caroline, right? :glare:

Nonononononononono.

[HeatLifer]

1 minute ago, ulkis said:

You realize you've just created baby Caroline, right? :glare:

If they name it Caroline, Robin should freeze Jason's ass again.

[backhometome]

I do actually really like the name Emily just not her namesake on the show ;) I wouldnt hate it. But I do think it will be because of that fantasy dream Sam had in 2012 with their kids name Danny/Emily. 

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Isn't his middle name Edward? 

Yeah! I was just talking first name, though.

[TeeVee329]

The baby being named Emily would make Monica happy so that's a point in its favor.

Guess everyone found today's episode as boring as I did, given this discussion?

[HeatLifer]

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

The baby being named Emily would make Monica happy so that's a point in its favor.

Guess everyone found today's episode as boring as I did, given this discussion?

I think Emily works, too. A lot of JaSam fans hate it, though. I think 'cause she was Liz's BFF and had beef with Sam by the end.

(every day is boring.....)

[Lillybee]

I just hope that Jason doesn't want to name babygirl Michelle after Sonny.

[Jazzy24]

30 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

It can be a combo, sure! Like I said, I don't really have a stake in this, lol. 

I do. 

I don't want my favs baby named after anyone I hate and that's like nearly everybody on this show. I hated Emily the inappropriate smiling idiot and Carly is the devil in disguise so if that baby is named after anyone of them I will not be happy. 

I want the names Charlotte "Charlie" or Riley, we need a prayer circle to make this happen. 

[ulkis]

12 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

I think Emily works, too. A lot of JaSam fans hate it, though. I think 'cause she was Liz's BFF and had beef with Sam by the end.

(every day is boring.....)

Pfft, I wouldn't care. If Liz and Lucky had a girl I wouldn't care if they named her Summersamaxie-ina. No sympathy! :p

Can Morgan PLEASE be re-diagnosed? So sick of these manic/no just an ass conversations.

Nelle is the female Griffin so far for me. Snooooze. Hope she's secretly out to destroy Carly.

 Don't do it Curtis. Don't do it.

I don't understand why they're having Sonny be so suspicious right off. Shouldn't evil Jax be luring them into a sense of false cameraderie first?

From twitter pictures and such, it looks like Jason and Sam

are re-married in grey balls aka Sonny's house.

Shut up Carlos 2, Sabrina doesn't have to be around you.

24 minutes ago, Lillybee said:

I just hope that Jason doesn't want to name babygirl Michelle after Sonny.

Haha I thought of that too, but it would be better than Caroline. Sonny won't be clinging and purring about his namesake like Carly would.

[dr. gailey]

I refuse to call any girl child of Sam's, Emily.

Sam was sick when she thought of that name. Just like she was going to call Danny, Jason Junior.

Just no.

If there hadn't been Starr Manning on this show, I could have seen Sam naming her kid Star or some version of it.

Too bad Skye named her kid Lila Raye, otherwise Sam would have finally had her Lila Morgan.

Jasam can call her Alana after Alan.

[Lobsel Vith]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I mean, I get what you're saying.  But to his slight credit, Sonny's never gotten up in Monica's face and been all, "So I killed your son, I'm bipolar so you have to get over it and then do me favors."

The whining, UGH!

Sonny's treatment of Scotty, however, and what he's said about Karen to his face, tells me that he has the same problem as Franco in not recognizing the severity of his crimes (drugging and having "sex" with a minor, and using her past of sexual abuse to manipulate and hurt her). Sonny also used the Deke excuse all the time to justify his present day monstrous actions and life choices.

I still have no idea why RH is playing Franco, but we have to suffer through the same kind of writing now that we've seen with Sonny and Jason for over a decade - he's a murderer who got away with his crimes and now interacts with the victims of those he's hurt, and he's the morally correct person in a story.

[HeatLifer]

11 minutes ago, Jazzy24 said:

I do. 

I don't want my favs baby named after anyone I hate and that's like nearly everybody on this show. I hated Emily the inappropriate smiling idiot and Carly is the devil in disguise so if that baby is named after anyone of them I will not be happy. 

I want the names Charlotte "Charlie" or Riley, we need a prayer circle to make this happen. 

I get it. We all got our own things. :)

I'm just an oddball. When I think of Emily, the image in my mind is never NL's version. It's Ambie's. And I loved her and Jason's relationship back in the day.

[dubbel zout]

56 minutes ago, Lillybee said:

I just hope that Jason doesn't want to name babygirl Michelle after Sonny.

Jason is the one who named Michael after Sonny, so here's hoping that itch has been scratched.

ETA: Plus, girl child. Sonny won't care what her name is.

Edited August 15, 2016 by dubbel zout

[HeatLifer]

I wouldn't care. If Liz and Lucky had a girl I wouldn't care if they named her Summersamaxie-ina. No sympathy! :p

LIES! But, seriously, I understand where some Sam fans are coming from. I would spit fire if Robin named her kid after Carly or Dr. O or Lisa or whoever was shitty to her. My examples are extreme, though. Emily doesn't register in the same category, but for some, it might!

[Ambrosefolly]

24 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

I think Emily works, too. A lot of JaSam fans hate it, though. I think 'cause she was Liz's BFF and had beef with Sam by the end.

(every day is boring.....)

Something that Emily never picked sides on. She supported Liason because at the time, it seemed to make Liz and Jason happy (she seemed to more anti Lucky, her very first friend, but then again, everyone was because he was up against Jason), but she never hated Sam,nothing noticeable .

As for names, it would be nice to have a kid given a unique name (meaning, not naming the kid after someone else). I like Charlotte with Charlie for short, because it matches Sam's name. As for "legacy names", there is Kristen (Alexis' mother), Susan (Jason's bio mother, who was murdered when he was a baby and weirdly enough, one of Sam's aliases), Natasha (Alexis's Cassadine name)

 

20 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Pfft, I wouldn't care. If Liz and Lucky had a girl I wouldn't care if they named her Summersamaxie-ina. No sympathy! :p

Can Morgan PLEASE be re-diagnosed? So sick of these manic/no just an ass conversations.

Nelle is the female Griffin so far for me. Snooooze. Hope she's secretly out to destroy Carly.

 Don't do it Curtis. Don't do it.

I don't understand why they're having Sonny be so suspicious right off. Shouldn't evil Jax be luring them into a sense of false cameraderie first?

From twitter pictures and such, it looks like Jason and Sam

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are re-married in grey balls aka Sonny's house.

 

Shut up Carlos 2, Sabrina doesn't have to be around you.

Haha I thought of that too, but it would be better than Caroline. Sonny won't be clinging and purring about his namesake like Carly would.

Of course Sonny is going to be suspicious, he has to be the smartest one in the room, which is probably why everyone else is so dumb.

Agree about Nellie being the female Griffin, and I blame the show for taking another good actor and making him/her as boring as possible. 

[ulkis]

28 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

LIES! But, seriously, I understand where some Sam fans are coming from. I would spit fire if Robin named her kid after Carly or Dr. O or Lisa or whoever was shitty to her. My examples are extreme, though. Emily doesn't register in the same category, but for some, it might!

Yeah, I was going to say if Dante named his kid after Sonny I would have never called him that lol so I do sympathize a leetle. Spencer, as a Stefan fan, I am not too big a fan of either. But Emily-the breathy version - was annoying but it's not like naming her after Liz or Carly.

Edited August 15, 2016 by ulkis

[HeatLifer]

Something that Emily never picked sides on. She supported Liason because at the time, it seemed to make Liz and Jason happy (she seemed to more anti Lucky, her very first friend, but then again, everyone was because he was up against Jason), but she never hated Sam,nothing noticeable.

From what I recall, Sam/Emily actually had some nice scenes together before 2007. I just always feel like she's being judged for that time. But that's not for me to care about. I haven't shipped Jason with anyone for decades so I dunno how I would feel if I was a JaSam or Liason fan when it comes to stuff like this.

[Oracle42]

I just...Umily

*shudders* Soily, the Pirates in Ems Pants, the nem love scenes - so many terrible flashbacks. The character shouldn't be dead but I'm so happy that I don't have to watch NL panting and stuttering

Edited August 15, 2016 by Oracle42

[fishcakes]

The problem with not naming the baby after anyone is that this is how we got a baby named "Rocco."

[ulkis]

It's better than Sonny or Michael the IV or Stone jr etc etc!

[dubbel zout]

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Hee. Ava's wagging finger was pretty funny, too.

How would a sonogram, which is simply an imaging method, show that Nelle is Joss's kidney donor? And a matching blood type is hardly conclusive. Then Sonny says his guys tracked down the clinic where the procedure was, and it's totes all true if Sonny's guys found it.  

Nina talking about her coma baby means Nelle probably is her coma baby. The show has never been subtle that way.

Michael, Sabrina does not have to tell you every single thing that happens during her day. Back the fuck off. Uncle Carrrlos is getting a little intense, too. 

Why is Morgan talking to Lauren about the coffee kiosk? Shouldn't he be talking to Aaron? He's the one in charge.

Preview: I really hope Joss slings some of that anger at all the adults in her life, not just Jax.

Edited August 16, 2016 by dubbel zout
Stupid formatting that I can't fix.

[mybabyaidan]

I loved the JaSam scenes today.   I loved how reassuring Jason was.  And I LOVE that he actually got down on one knee to propose.

[ulkis]

Uncle Carlos is a good nickname, let's keep it.

Freaking Nelle better not be coma baby. Wtf.

[HeatLifer]

"EW, you threw up?" And then that LAUGH. This Jason is legit comedy, my cheeks hurt.

[Ambrosefolly]

On August 11, 2016 at 8:15 PM, IWantCandy71 said:

I don't think the show has cared about ethics since the Luke/Laura rapemance. Things were far less PC back then, but still. A show that would even go there and promote that kind of thing, already didn't give a flying flip about 'ethics". 

As terrible as Luke/Laura rapemance was and I will always respect Douglas Marland quitting over it, unfortunately there are relationships like that. Some women will go back to their abusers not of fear, but a twisted idea of love (see also: early Monica and Alan). It is a dark side of being relatable, and unfortunately, it wasn't forced on the audience. Sometimes aren't ethical and more often than should be, toxic. Besides, neither Luke or Laura worked at the hospital, Luke didn't even have a normal job. 

My issue is with the hospital, which even with all the drama surrounding it, rarely lost its ethical core. 

Edited August 18, 2016 by Ambrosefolly

[Melgaypet]

Baby names! I usually love talking fictional baby names, but I so could not care less about Jason and Sam's unnecessary child's name. Emily works just as well as anything else (if they name her Monica or Alanna or something, I might change my mind.) Not that I judge anyone for caring about this! Like ulkis, I still wince at Spencer Cassadine, and somewhere in my head I have some LL2 fanfic ideas where Niz and Dead!Jake never happened and they are living happily ever after with Cam and Jake and little Ruby Audrey Spencer. 

Right, the actual show. I, uh, didn't watch. Anything interesting happen?

[Oracle42]

The most exciting thing about today's show is that Serial Drama posted about it!

[TeeVee329]

The Serial Drama post reminded me how annoying it was that Sam was all apologetic about her behavior during the last pregnancy.  Uh, what about Jason's behavior?  He was a pissy bitch who said he couldn't love the baby and then the fuckin' baby switch happened because he had goons jump [NAME REDACTED].

[ciarra]

When are Sam and Jason going to remember that they already have a kid?

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

When are Sam and Jason going to remember that they already have a kid?

When Lulu and Dante remember they already have a kid among all the embryo talk, I guess.

Edited August 16, 2016 by ulkis

[TwistedandBored]

I loved Jasam scenes today. They really did needed to talk and I am glad they did. Propasal #5 and I still fangirl like it is the first time. 

[Chairperson Meow]

36 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

The most exciting thing about today's show is that Serial Drama posted about it!

Nina legit asked Curtis to find her a baby?!  Wtf?  She needs to bang Sonny and make her own damn unwanted miracle mutant devil spawn.   Give Sonina a chance.   Although, I wonder if Nellie may be Coma Baby?   That could make her eligible for Michael.  

14 minutes ago, ciarra said:

When are Sam and Jason going to remember that they already have a kid?

When he commits either his first felony, murder, or act of betrayal?  

[Cheyanne11]

43 minutes ago, ciarra said:

When are Sam and Jason going to remember that they already have a kid?

They'll probably spring him from Monica's for the wedding and then it'll be out-of-sight-out-of-mind again.

And, ugh, no offense to their fans, but what a load of crap that proposal was.  "Last time I proposed I made promises I couldn't keep."/"That wasn't your fault."  Please, then whose fault was it?  The Big Bads that Jason was assigned to assassinate.  Because he was a GOOD hitman.  And then Sam said she was happy to accept him the way he was.  Just blech.  I will never fawn over the continued glorification of Jason and Sonny.  It's gross.

In other news, I legit LOL'd at Kiki's totally serious "that's brilliant" comment to Morgan saying he wanted to up the coffee shop's social media presence.  He's really challenging Jax for quick-thinking businessman, huh?

[Oracle42]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I made promises I couldn't keep

He's being awfully easy on himself.  I liked quite a bit of those scenes but that line got all the side-eye

Edited August 16, 2016 by Oracle42

[LeftPhalange]

7 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Sam: Blah, blah, blah, complications, baby...

Nina: Find me a baby, money is no object.

Me: They're going to give her Sam's baby, aren't they? Baby gets taken, sold on the black market, Curtis buys it, hands it over to Nina. 

It's like when Sam caught baby fever after her baby died, and she tried to buy one on the black market. I'm sure Sam and Nina will cross paths at some point.

If that asshole gets her hands on Sam's baby I'm going to react. It's bad enough Danny spent the first months of his life being raised offscreen by some fucking OLTL character while Sam and Jason thought he was dead. Fucking Ron.

[HeatLifer]

And then Sam said she was happy to accept him the way he was.

LOL, this idea always made me laugh. Not just a Sam thing, but in general. Like anyone who wanted more for Jason (like, you know, for him to not be a killer) was a bad person. 

[LeftPhalange]

Kiki/Morgan/Ava are getting too much screen time.

Carlos 2.0 bores me.

I hope Sam and Jason are allowed to get married without any stupid opera obstacles. And Liez better be exiled to Syria during the ceremony. 

[HeatLifer]

3 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

I hope Sam and Jason are allowed to get married without any stupid opera obstacles. And Liez better be exiled to Syria during the ceremony. 

During?! I'm surprised you didn't say at least 8 weeks before.

[Lillybee]

Sam must have a very short memory because she seems to have forgot that Jason had McBain beat up with led to that terrible baby switch story.

[stlbf]

11 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

I don't know if KiKi, Nelle or another TBD young adult is Nina's coma baby, but I do know that Nina does indeed have a coma baby out there somewhere. 

Ha. I'm going to go with Darby being Lauren's long lost sister. It would make sense for Madeline to hand off her grandchild to a well to do family. And Darby seem to be from a wealthy family. Lauren hates her already. And since we already have one set of secret siblings who hate each(Liz and HateChel) why not 2 sets? 

[teenj12]

While I totally agree with Ava on the whole Morgan thing, I think this show needs to stop having Ava/Carly/Alexis treating Kiki/Morgan/Kristina/etc like they're all still 18. These are grown ass adults nearing their mid-20s. The fact that their parents are all somehow actively controlling/trying to control their love lives is ridiculous .

[P3pp3rb1rd]

11 hours ago, Lillybee said:

Since Sam told Jason that she is pregnant, how long before she will have complications?

I've been outraged that stupid Dr Finn is Sam's authority for her pregnancy and the possible effect of malaria on her baby. Where's your OB/GYN, Sam? Yes Dr Finn is a specialist in tropical diseases but THE GIRL IS PREGNANT. Why haven't they brought in an OB?

[P3pp3rb1rd]

52 minutes ago, teenj12 said:

These are grown ass adults nearing their mid-20s. The fact that their parents are all somehow actively controlling/trying to control their love lives is ridiculous .

Preach it. They say they are trying to "protect" the youngsters, but actually the gossipy parents are common snoops and voyeurs.

[In2You]

4 hours ago, teenj12 said:

While I totally agree with Ava on the whole Morgan thing, I think this show needs to stop having Ava/Carly/Alexis treating Kiki/Morgan/Kristina/etc like they're all still 18. These are grown ass adults nearing their mid-20s. The fact that their parents are all somehow actively controlling/trying to control their love lives is ridiculous .

The writers write these characters as if they were teens.

[NetflixandChill]

6 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

If that asshole gets her hands on Sam's baby I'm going to react. It's bad enough Danny spent the first months of his life being raised offscreen by some fucking OLTL character while Sam and Jason thought he was dead. Fucking Ron.

You and me both! I just want her to have one freaking baby she doesn't think is dead and gone! Just one! Let Nina steal someone else's baby. Take Dante and Lulu's, I'm sure they'll be pregnant any moment.

[NutmegsDad]

14 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

But Sam already named Danny after her family member. I wouldn't mind Jason naming the baby after someone important to him. Although, it'd also be cool if they just chose a random new name.

Molly and Emma were named for....no one.  There IS a precedent!

[NutmegsDad]

13 hours ago, dr. gailey said:

Jasam can call her Alana after Alan.

Alanis.

Oh, and I'm calling it: Sam's baby is the Stavros-Lulu Embryo. They've let that plotline linger too long, plus it would be Helena's version of a middle-finger.

And the Valentin storyline is over, right? Because Sonny and Jason beat him up. Unless they want to trot him out to taunt, but that's Julian's purpose.

[dubbel zout]

8 hours ago, Lillybee said:

Sam must have a very short memory because she seems to have forgot that Jason had McBain beat up with led to that terrible baby switch story.

That was pre-amnesia Jason. We're supposed to wipe the slate clean there the way we have for Franco. 

The writers write these characters as if they were teens.

Who is being written as an adult? 

Edited August 16, 2016 by dubbel zout

[YaddaYadda]

7 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

I've been outraged that stupid Dr Finn is Sam's authority for her pregnancy and the possible effect of malaria on her baby. Where's your OB/GYN, Sam? Yes Dr Finn is a specialist in tropical diseases but THE GIRL IS PREGNANT. Why haven't they brought in an OB?

They need to keep Dr Finn occupied, so you get a tropical disease, and you get a tropical disease, everyone gets a tropical disease, even you hiding in the corner over there. Dr Finn saw you, so you get a tropical disease too.

It's the new neurosurgery.

[Oracle42]

30 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

They need to keep Dr Finn occupied, so you get a tropical disease, and you get a tropical disease, everyone gets a tropical disease, even you hiding in the corner over there. Dr Finn saw you, so you get a tropical disease too.

It's the new neurosurgery.

Yep. Because the writers had totes already planned to create this character and definitely had story for him