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Nine year old boys have super-hero parties and do not have GF's they may have a crush but the clown at the party would be of more interest, further I doubt that girls would be invited at all. Sorry this rushing kids to grow up (and then the reverse when they are like 18 and not allowing them to grow up) is just something that creeps me out

 

They don't wear smoking jackets either.

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I'm oddly accepting of Carly, Liz, and Sam falling over Jake because it's Billy Miller and he's hot and charming. That's rare now in Port Charles. After having Sonny and Patrick slobber on you, Billy Miller turns into Fight Club Brad Pitt by comparison. And Liz, well she's been stuck between Ric and Nik. I hate Ric's full beard. Obtain an appropriate scruff level, Council. So yeah.

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Why is Spencer written to be the biggest Little Douchebag ever?  He could be a compelling character, but instead he's a piece of poorly elocuting cheese.  And I am not bashing NB.  He is a cute kid.  But he desperately needs a speech therapist and less ridiculous dialog.  I can't understand most of what he says, and what does come out clearly makes no fucking sense for a kid of ten to be saying.

 

There is no reason to write any of the kids this way.  They are ludicrous and boring at the same time ... though that is a problem of Ron C.'s writing in general.

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it is not inappropriate the way the kids are acting.  Kids that age do have crushes and call each other bf/gf and such.

 

I think there is a huge difference between kids having crushes and a kid spouting lines about how a girl is the love of his life.

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I think there is a huge difference between kids having crushes and a kid spouting lines about how a girl is the love of his life.

IA my neice is four and says she has a boyfriend.Although if anyone teases them about it hey get embarrssed lol.THey don't go around claiming that there the love of there life lol.

 

A couple month ago the actors that played spencer and Emma had an interview in one of the mags and the spencer actor said that he would want to be like sonny because hes a bad ass or something like that but the actress playing Emma said she wanted to be like robin because she was a doctor and helped people lol.

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  Lol the death glare Liz gave Carly when she walked in Jakes room.

 

 

I'm usually on neutral ground when it comes to Liz, but shit like that and ""If you're not ready for visitors....***petulant bitch glare to Carly***... I'll be outside." makes me twitchy. He hasn't even kissed you, you twat, stop pretending he's your boyfriend!

 

As an aside, I really am liking BM more and more. He's got a warmth and a charisma that was completely lacking in whatshisface. And he does have good friend chem with Carly.

 

How exactly does Ron expect to bring a raise in the ratings with this kiddie crap? Are 8 year olds now the hot ,new, target demo or something?

 

Jesus, I think I liked old Sloan better, and that is saying a mouthfull. This guy just acts like a wannabe thug, and whatever the hell he is putting on his hair is gross.

 

That being said, I have no interest in Anna-Duke, or her lingering feelings for him. I don't care who Anna ends up with but Duke is just so bland and boring and Anna's badassery keeps growing and growing. I would be okay with her pulling a praying mantis and eating Sloane's head after hate sex for empowerment.

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I thought Anna and Jordan were gonna kiss. Best part of the ep. It all went down hill after that.

 

When Spencer entered his party with scantily-clad adult women I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

The kid stuff is creepy as hell. It might not seem too bad on the surface, but then I think about how the writers are legit obsessed with a child and it just gives me the heebie jeebies.

 

I'm gonna need Nathan to kill Spinelli. Also, he needs to dump Maxie's dumb ass immediately. Like why is he even still trying at this point? It's not believable at all. Go fuck Anna some more, Nathan, or start a new affair with Jordan.

 

This episode was the worst in awhile, IMO, and that is truly saying something.

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I thought Anna and Jordan were gonna kiss. Best part of the ep. It all went down hill after that.

 

When Spencer entered his party with scantily-clad adult women I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

The kid stuff is creepy as hell. It might not seem too bad on the surface, but then I think about how the writers are legit obsessed with a child and it just gives me the heebie jeebies.

 

I'm gonna need Nathan to kill Spinelli. Also, he needs to dump Maxie's dumb ass immediately. Like why is he even still trying at this point? It's not believable at all. Go fuck Anna some more, Nathan, or start a new affair with Jordan.

 

This episode was the worst in awhile, IMO, and that is truly saying something.

 

I'd say the last time I felt this embarrassed were the Stavros episodes. It sucks that I now mostly dread anyone with the last name "Cassadine" showing up (specified to exclude the Coven).

 

When Spencer entered his party with scantily-clad adult women I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

Yeah. The other stuff, maybe, MAYBE I could buy, but Nik letting scantily clad women into the room? What? You could see it in Tyler's face though. Most dads would be laughing at their kid's birthday party, but besides that one nod it was like he was like, "just don't make an expression, just don't make an expression, count to 10 . . . "

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Did Cameron start the fire? I was listening but not really watching. I really hope he did.

 

 

 

Yeah, Cam started it. NOt on purpose this time, he grabbed a "Swag Bag" and knocked another on on top of a candle. (Which is a brilliant party decoration for a bunch of 10 yr olds)

 

Edit: Fixed the quote issue

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When Spencer entered his party with scantily-clad adult women

How is this appropriate? Whoever mentioned wanting to call CPS was on the money. It's so irritating that Frank spends some money on something like Spencer's idiotic tenth birthday party, but he won't give Anna a house set. Or pay for Leslie Charleson to have a scene with Michael where they talk about AJ.

 

LOL at Nik's boredom. Did he not ask another parent to help chaperone?

 

Carly sure got over to Sonny's quickly. The hospital must be near a ton of wormholes.

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It may just be possible that Show has somehow managed to out-gross itself, since I think this episode might just be even worse than the Fluke-centric ones.  I made the mistake of watching before dinner, so now my appetite for everything not-liquor related has been suppressed.

Anna and Jordan, those scenes were okay because of the actors.

 

Det. Kitty should buy a clue and dump Maxie ASAP, leave her to Spinelli.  Or not, if sanity is at all important to him.  Amazing how quickly Spinelli made it to the top of my woodchipper list.  

 

Shawn telling Moobs - AGAIN - that he's got his back......dear Lord.  And Moobs being grateful.  Shawn couldn't pop a pimple without putting an eye out.

 

So Jake doesn't know who he is.  I do.  He's a terminal bore.  Operated on by another terminal bore.  Whose best friend, Snarly, is a terminal bore.  Yay.  More "who is he" storyline.  And God forbid Carly lose her new best friend.

 

Carly sure got over to Sonny's quickly. The hospital must be near a ton of wormholes.

 

I love this line for all sorts of reasons I can't really explain, at least not on a public board.  Suffice it to say that there are just such possibilities with the words "Carly" and "wormholes" and "Sonny".  

Thank you for it!

 

When Spencer entered his party with scantily-clad adult women I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

There are some visuals you really can't prepare for, because you can't ever imagine them happening.

And then we have Ron C's image of childhood.....

 

Burn, Baby, Burn.

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I think what really annoys me about Carly, Liz, and Sam all fawning all over Jake(son) is that it's boring.  Where's the drama in the reveal that he's really Jason if these women are already all gaga over him?  I found Sam being initially wary and antagonistic towards Jake(son) more interesting so of course the show nipped that in the bud as soon as possible.

 

And yes, Liz is being very annoying with her territorial attitude.  And she wonders why Ric is all paranoid and jealous.  He does have eyes, Liz.

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I found Sam being initially wary and antagonistic towards Jake(son) more interesting so of course the show nipped that in the bud as soon as possible.

 

It cracks me up that Sam is totes over being manhandled by Jake because he was brainwashed. It still happened!

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Someday NB is going to realize that the sun does not rise and set because he is in the world as Uncles FranknRon told him, and the kid will be miserable for the rest of his life.


It cracks me up that Sam is totes over being manhandled by Jake because he was brainwashed. It still happened!

 

On a show where Sonny's pardon for murder is akin to him being innocent of the crime, does this surprise you?

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Dude, if Micheal walked into Jake's room accidentally and was wearing a suit and they both just went off about Sonny murdering AJ, that would be Fan February. It would be like this:

Micheal : Oh hi I'm sorry. I was looking for my grandmother. She was supposed to be checking on a patient who um just had surgery.

Jake: That's probably me, Micheal. I- I'm sorry about the bomb.

Micheal : Yeah. I heard you had a chip inside your head.

They start talking about how Michael knows because this is Port Charles. Jake says he's not trying to skate responsibility for his actions. This brings up Sonny and the pardon and Sonny murdering AJ. Michael shows Jake the picture Monica gave him of Jason and AJ as teens. Jake grabs it and smiles. He has a fuzzy memory of AJ beating up Jagger for him. Michael asks what's wrong.

Jake: Nothing. I um. I think I had or have a brother.

Micheal : Yeah? I had a brother too. He knew Sonny killed my father and didn't tell me.

Jake has a memory of apologizing to AJ at his "grave" after giving up Jake the kid. This is when Jason decided Michael wasn't better off with Sonny.

Jake: No. My brother. If he's real. He was great. Not perfect. But I don't remember being that great to him.

Micheal : Do you know a name? We could call him.

Jake remembers AJ's old grave and says he's dead. Then Monica walks in. Jake is her patient.

Ron, there. That's better than kiddie love bs.

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There are some visuals you really can't prepare for, because you can't ever imagine them happening.

And then we have Ron C's image of childhood.....

 

I have never had such a creepy vibe that Ron truely is trying to project his feelings about himself onto a child as I did at that "entrance" Spencer made into that party. Not enough eye bleach in the world to erase THAT!

 

My huband walked by as I was on my phone with GH on for "noise" and said what in the world are those "children" doing? THAT has no business on TV. I just said I here you loud and clear. blerg

 

That episode was terrible so bad I actually snuck a look at Pratt's Y&R and have to say I LIKED it better. double blerg

 

Only positive I've got is my det. Special Kitty actually got to throw Maxie and Spin shade! Though even I thought RP acting was terrible today:(

Nathan just keep on walking right over to Anna and Jordan's roach motel for some real women.

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Why was Nikolas acting as if he is having auditory hallucinations?  Are we now supposed to think he's had a psychotic break of some kind?

 

The party was just cringe-worthy, and I felt sorry for all the actors, even the kids.  They have to say those lines and be in stupid storylines, poor things! 

 

February is almost gone.  I thought we might have had a resolution to the Luke story by March.  Doesn't look like that's going to happen.

 

Oh well.

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Why was Nikolas acting as if he is having auditory hallucinations? Are we now supposed to think he's had a psychotic break of some kind?

That was SO weird. Especially when he asked himself "Why?" I busted out laughing. I know characters on soaps talk to themselves all the time, but the way Tyler delivered the lines was freaky.

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Yeah, Cam started it.

 

Of course he did! Cameron judges Sonny and Obrecht for their crimes, but look what he did to Faison when he filed to take custody of Sonny's baby!

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Seems some of us (reasonably and politely!) disagree about whether the kid stuff is overall creepy, but I absolutely agree that the scantily clad women escorting Spencer in was out of line and that those party decorations made no sense whatsoever for a kids's party.  The rest of it doesn't bother me because I see it as precocious kids being overly dramatic, combined with dialogue written by possibly some of the worst writers since the Sumerians first came up with writing.  I see it more as crappy dialogue (like Cam's "did you think I'd break up with you?") than as actual creepiness.  Not saying I love the storyline, though, and I think we are ALL in agreement on that.  

 

ETA: there is something wrong with me, because I can't stop being delighted that Cameron started the fire.  It's not only the first time this regime has written someone in character, but it's also the first time new Cameron has been interesting to me at all.  

 

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I absolutely agree that the scantily clad women escorting Spencer in was out of line and that those party decorations made no sense whatsoever for a kids's party.

 

Maybe in your world!

 

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Not true - he courted/married Lois while having an affair with Katherine Bell. (Katherine wanted to get married, but he married Lois first). His life was divided between regular Ned Ashton and singer "Eddie Maine." She knows that while it's in character for Ned to do the white knight thing, it's not unfathomable that he would sleep with a woman he's attracted to if he thought it was over with her. I think she just felt she was more special/educated/his type than Lois was, so he would never do that to her. I noticed that she was really pissed that Olivia, not Ned, provided a plausible timeline for hooking up with Ned and then Ned dismissed Alexis and Julian with "this is a private matter."  I think she figures sure, Ned would have no problem lying to Julian, but wouldn't lie to and hurt her about something so important due to their history.  There's also her feeling "yeah, I felt bad for hurting this man I used but how DARE another woman want him/how dare he have other options this entire time!!" 

 

Ned wasn't having an affair with Katherine Bell. He met Lois at a karaoke bar when he was out with Damien Smith, and made up Eddie Maine because he didn't think Lois would like him being rich etc. Katherine was blackmailing the Quartermaines, I think it had something to do with Pierce Dornan? Didn't he charge Monica with sexual harassment? Katherine demanded Ned marry her as her price for keeping the secret. Ned was pressured by the family into agreeing, but married Lois secretly first so that that would be the legitimate marriage. The Quartermaines didn't know anything about Lois, Ned brought Brenda in on things because Lois was getting suspicious about not meeting any of his friends/family.

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That was SO weird. Especially when he asked himself "Why?" I busted out laughing. I know characters on soaps talk to themselves all the time, but the way Tyler delivered the lines was freaky.

 

At first, I thought he had a bluetooth thing in his ear, and I couldn't figure out who he would be talking to on the phone.  It was, actually, a very realistic portrayal of someone having auditory hallucinations, I'll give him that...if that was what it was meant to be.  Somehow, I think it was an attempt to show his thought process but usually people don't have conversations with themselves like that, the language was all wrong.  So I'm not sure what the writers' intent was.

 

A moment of weirdness in an otherwise somewhat boring episode.

 

As for the kids party, I have to admit I laughed when Spencer came in through the fog with those two women - pretty cheesy.  Nikolas obviously had to have set that up, and it showed pretty poor judgment on his part as a father - further hinting at mental illness?  I doubt it, that would be too subtle.

 

Poor little NB, having to put up with such nonsense for plots.  The argument seemed forced and dumb.  The kiddie crushes don't really add to the show, imho.  I'm not sure how I would use those child actors, actually, so I don't have any thoughts one way or another, just that this plot doesn't seem to work.  And why burn down a perfectly nice set?  Gah.

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The show hit new lows today. Seriously, there are no words to explain the crap away.

 

Spencer/Sonny was disgusting. I aspire to be just like you! A murdering douchebag, really? Well, knock yourself out, creepy little psycho. And his entitlement, his everfreakingloving sense of entitlement is just...gawd.

 

Jason won't be revealed at this rate until Christmas.

 

If Maxie is dumb enough to go back to Spinelli, she deserves him. Free Nathan, for Anna and Dante and Jordan.

 

I can't believe MW was shelved for this kiddie crap.

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Spencer/Sonny was disgusting. I aspire to be just like you! A murdering douchebag, really? Well, knock yourself out, creepy little psycho.

 

If only Helena had heard him say that, she would have drop kicked him into next year.

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If Maxie is dumb enough to go back to Spinelli, I hope they both leave town.  I'm no fan of his, and while I generally don't mind Maxie, I really abhor the two of them together.  

 

I thought Nik was just rehearsing how he was going to talk to someone about Jake, but I couldn't figure out who he might be planning to talk to.  It was definitely weird.

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I think the writers want us to hate Spencer, for some reason.  I keep saying, "poor kid" because I really do feel sorry for NB having to play the Sonny worshipper part, and get stuck in terrible storylines.  And act in such an entitled way that he is even becoming repulsive to me, and I kinda liked that character.

 

I really wish that there would be some characters that are not paired up.  It's ridiculous to me.  Why does Nathan have to be with someone else if he dumps Maxie?  Why can't he smarten up a bit and be one of PC's intelligent cops?  Solve a crime, for once.

 

And let's see more of Brad and Lucas.

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Ned wasn't having an affair with Katherine Bell. He met Lois at a karaoke bar when he was out with Damien Smith, and made up Eddie Maine because he didn't think Lois would like him being rich etc. Katherine was blackmailing the Quartermaines, I think it had something to do with Pierce Dornan? Didn't he charge Monica with sexual harassment? Katherine demanded Ned marry her as her price for keeping the secret. Ned was pressured by the family into agreeing, but married Lois secretly first so that that would be the legitimate marriage. The Quartermaines didn't know anything about Lois, Ned brought Brenda in on things because Lois was getting suspicious about not meeting any of his friends/family.

I remember that they met at a bar, that he created the Eddie Maine persona, and that Katherine was pressuring Ned to marry her...but my point was, Ned lying to Lois and the sexual encounters. I could swear he was sleeping with Katherine and providing business metaphors to Lois about Katherine's demands, while pursuing a relationship with Lois. Then Lois found out and jumped out of Ned and Katherine's wedding cake. These days, Alexis knows Ned was in love with Lois, they had a daughter together, etc. So if he was capable of carrying on that big of a deception and hurting his great love, he's certainly capable of lying to/cheating on Alexis. Lois was totally innocent in that situation; Alexis has been a runaway bride w/Ned and kept her from her daughter. Not a stellar history with these two. Just because Ned is the least despicable man Alexis has ever been involved with doesn't make him perfect. I was super annoyed with Alexis getting all indignant since she's been either cheating on or dancing on the border of cheating on Ned the entire time they've been "together." 

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That was SO weird. Especially when he asked himself "Why?" I busted out laughing. I know characters on soaps talk to themselves all the time, but the way Tyler delivered the lines was freaky.

Nik talking to himself actually worked for me as I've done the same thing. You know you've done something stupid, or shitty, or both, and have a conversation with your self about how stupid/shitty you have been/are being. I liked it, especially Nik's "Why?". It was no "No serrrrrrrviiiiice!" but it did its job.

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Is Maura West actually gone from the show? She can't be cause they haven't found the body but I heard no news of her leaving the show. When does Nukiki debut just i can prepare lol

 

No, she's not gone. She'll probably turn up either end of this week or beginning of next week.

 

Nukiki debuts this week. I'm scared.

 

 

It was no "No serrrrrrrviiiiice!" but it did its job.

 

"No serrrrrrrrviiiiiiiiiiiice!" might actually be the last time I liked Nik.

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I really wish that there would be some characters that are not paired up.  It's ridiculous to me.  Why does Nathan have to be with someone else if he dumps Maxie?  Why can't he smarten up a bit and be one of PC's intelligent cops?  Solve a crime, for once.

 

Well, this is true. But today's soap writers don't know anything BUT pairings, breakups, and cheating, so if a character has no pairing, they're basically screwed.

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And let's see more of Brad and Lucas.

IA, CoJones, MWOP (Michael or Morgan) and Robin are about the only thing I've been tuning in and watching lately. MW could be added to that list depending upon what direction the story goes.

I would rath er watch CoJones looking for a bigger place to live, Micheal working with the Q's at ELQ to block the LOD Or Morgan remembering his dad is a selfish narcissistic douche.

uGH, the barge has been keeping me sane.

Does MoRon understand the concept of sweeps? I know he doesn't know a thing about writing or storytelling.

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I think the writers want us to hate Spencer, for some reason.  I keep saying, "poor kid" because I really do feel sorry for NB having to play the Sonny worshipper part, and get stuck in terrible storylines.  And act in such an entitled way that he is even becoming repulsive to me, and I kinda liked that character.

 

I really wish that there would be some characters that are not paired up.  It's ridiculous to me.  Why does Nathan have to be with someone else if he dumps Maxie?  Why can't he smarten up a bit and be one of PC's intelligent cops?  Solve a crime, for once.

 

And let's see more of Brad and Lucas.

Perhaps we should see more of Brad and Lucas, just in case!

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No, she's not gone. She'll probably turn up either end of this week or beginning of next week.

 

Nukiki debuts this week. I'm scared.

 

 

"No serrrrrrrrviiiiiiiiiiiice!" might actually be the last time I liked Nik.

Thanks for the Info about Ava and Nukiki! I HOPE that I might like Nukiki. I'd like her a little more if she doesn't brother hop anymore

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I think the Jake sl would have worked out so much better if the audience didn't know that he was Jason. The handsome stranger with no memories showing up in town is a tired but true soap troupe. The real truth of who he is could have come out little by little.

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I hear Doctors Without Boarders is looking for some nurses. Stalker nurse should volunteer and never come back.

 

Is there such a thing as Nurses without Boundaries?  If so, she is a perfect fit. (I'll be here all day folks)

 

As for the kids party, I have to admit I laughed when Spencer came in through the fog with those two women - pretty cheesy.  Nikolas obviously had to have set that up, and it showed pretty poor judgment on his part as a father - further hinting at mental illness?  I doubt it, that would be too subtle.

 

 

I don't think Nikolas had anything to do with it...It went along with the theme of what Sonny gave him....the boxing outfit....and Spencer wouldn't show it to him until the party.  So of course a precocious 10 year old could hire 2 "ring ladies" as I assume they were supposed to be all by himself.  Isn't he adorable??

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Nik talking to himself actually worked for me as I've done the same thing. You know you've done something stupid, or shitty, or both, and have a conversation with your self about how stupid/shitty you have been/are being. I liked it, especially Nik's "Why?". It was no "No serrrrrrrviiiiice!" but it did its job.

 

The thing that struck me was, he would pause as if he were hearing someone - that was what I meant about auditory hallucinations.  The pauses were similar to what people do when they are "turn-taking" during actual conversations with someone else.  Most people who are talking to themselves don't conversationally pause, unless they are hearing voices (doesn't matter if they perceive the voices as inside or outside their head, just that it's someone else talking to them).

 

Anyway, I thought it was interesting, albeit a bit odd.

Is there such a thing as Nurses without Boundaries?  If so, she is a perfect fit. (I'll be here all day folks)

 

 

I don't think Nikolas had anything to do with it...It went along with the theme of what Sonny gave him....the boxing outfit....and Spencer wouldn't show it to him until the party.  So of course a precocious 10 year old could hire 2 "ring ladies" as I assume they were supposed to be all by himself.  Isn't he adorable??

 

Spencer would have done that?  Lol!  Nikolas didn't look surprised, that's why I figured he was the one who set it up.  It was awful, cheesy, ridiculous, no matter what character was responsible.  I wonder what TC thought of it...

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Oh NO you guys.  All this talk about why Nikolas is talking to himself is giving me the heebie jeebies because I have a sinking feeling

it ties in with the Fan February shit and it's going to turn out he is talking to SWSNBN.   Either that or she comes as a ghost to help Spencer when/if he is hurt in this fire

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If Maxie is dumb enough to go back to Spinelli, I hope they both leave town.  I'm no fan of his, and while I generally don't mind Maxie, I really abhor the two of them together.  

 

I thought Nik was just rehearsing how he was going to talk to someone about Jake, but I couldn't figure out who he might be planning to talk to.  It was definitely weird.

 

Rehearsing, yes!  That would explain the pauses, though it's still odd and, like you, I wonder who he was rehearsing to tell...

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I think the writers want us to hate Spencer, for some reason.  I keep saying, "poor kid" because I really do feel sorry for NB having to play the Sonny worshipper part, and get stuck in terrible storylines.  And act in such an entitled way that he is even becoming repulsive to me, and I kinda liked that character.

 

Carlivati and Frank Valentini love the kid who play Spencer. They don't want anyone to hate him. They just think that this is hilarious. It is a just a case of audience disconnect. They don't get that we've never met Nicholas Bechtel, and so don't think it's hilarious to contrast the obnoxious little boy with the nice little boy in real life. We just see the obnoxious kid on our screens.

I really wish that there would be some characters that are not paired up.  It's ridiculous to me.  Why does Nathan have to be with someone else if he dumps Maxie?  Why can't he smarten up a bit and be one of PC's intelligent cops?  

 

 

he's a bad actor, that's why (imo). He's good for ordering around, but Nathan is never gonna be able to look intelligent when he looks like he's wondering what his next line is.

 

But hey, he did manage to get himself and Dante out of an exploding house in 7 seconds, so he's got some sort of skill set. ;)

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he's a bad actor, that's why (imo). He's good for ordering around, but Nathan is never gonna be able to look intelligent when he looks like he's wondering what his next line is.

 

Your post is the first thing that ever made me wish for the return of Natalia Livingston.  She's the only other person I remember whose default expression was set to "confused" so often.  Can you imagine the UCG we'd get out of that pairing?  "Who are we?  How did we end up on TV?"

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