Rick Kitchen January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Who does Helena think she's dealing with? Why was Carrrrrrrrlos at the party? Link to comment
Lillybee January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Since everyone is unconscious, with the prison van crash be the school bus crash 2015 version? Link to comment
jsbt January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) But I don't get why he wouldn't be mad that we would guess the details of story re-write #2, which a lot of people did as well. By that time he's out of time. We were, what, three, four weeks out when people started realizing they might be feigning us on Bill? I think at that point you just have to go with it - and plenty of people didn't guess this. He could well have had this planned all along - and I'm sure he will say so - but I doubt it, myself. There was too much last year that said otherwise, too many small details that do not add up. Especially if we did, in fact, see orderlies at Miscavige with Luke, which I think we did. To say nothing of Helena. Why else was she there? She wasn't all a hallucination, Alexis and Julian saw her. Why put anyone in there at all? I think Bill and Pat are a real part of the backstory here, but I just find the whole thing so stupid. I have watched this a half dozen times with better (and worse) acting than what Tony Geary is doing here. I mean, if they want to expiate Luke's many Guza-era sins and guilt through this story - great. But I doubt TG will allow that. Edited January 30, 2015 by jsbt 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Who does Helena think she's dealing with? Why was Carrrrrrrrlos at the party? He was Sabrina's date. And maybe there for Fluke's orders, I dunno. Link to comment
Lillybee January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Who does Helena think she's dealing with? Why was Carrrrrrrrlos at the party? Carlos was at the party as Sabrina's plus 1, since Sabrina was hired by Michael to work at the clinic. Link to comment
Francie January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) At the risk of sounding like I care, who did Johnny think Luke was? He commented on uncanny the likeness was. Carlos was at the party as Sabrina's plus 1, since Sabrina was hired by Michael to work at the clinic. Were they planning to have LOTS AND LOTS of sex afterwards? Because I really need a scene that goes something like: Sabrina: And I want LOTS and LOTS of sex. Chocolate, and rocky road, and strawberry ... Carlos: SaBREEna, I keep telling you, that's ice cream. We've had lots and lots of ice cream together. And, yep, I'm not letting that ridiculous plot point go. Ever. Edited January 30, 2015 by Francie 10 Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Believe me, I don't care. But I thought, the day he talked Julian into rejoining Team Fluke, Carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlos was whining about having lost his chance with Sabrina due to his time in jail. 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Since everyone is unconscious, with the prison van crash be the school bus crash 2015 version? If we hear Kristen Alderson singing "Hallelujah" over the van scenes next week, Lilleybee, I'll know who's to blame! At the risk of sounding like I care, who did Johnny think Luke was? He commented on uncanny the likeness was. He was probably just told it was some mobster who was going in disguise as Luke. I was going to say maybe he thought it was Eckert, but then he wouldn't've needed to ask how he looked so much like Luke. 2 Link to comment
One Tough Cookie January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 That Carlos, apologizing for giving a confession. Always a class act, that one. Did he do it via interpretative dance? 3 Link to comment
sometimesfan January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Soooooo, I was doing more people watching than paying attention to the show. You could tell many were having actual fun in the background. What got me was Brad sitting and having a conversation with Sabreeeena. The actors may like each other but their characters don't. I wouldn't even have cared if Patrick hadn't been a sick at Brad's place yesterday. I like that Brad and Lucas are a couple and it isn't THE storyline. Most are happy that they are happy. I haven't been watching regularly and typically FF all things Sabreena but when did she an Carlos start seeing each other again? I love how you all have been guessing there was a dead body in the basement and possible DID or brain washing story yet TPTB think today was SHOCKING! So much of MoRon the ReRon's shit is telegraphed. Today I would have been SHOCKED if it wasn't a corpse in the basement. That's just sad. Link to comment
AuxArx January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 So we finally found out who the Luke-alike is...Norman Bates... 3 Link to comment
KerleyQ January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 So they actually showed a corpse today? Why am I not surprised that Ron just had to go to the corpse well again? Shall I assume it wasn't as freaky/awesome as CorpseNash? 3 Link to comment
Sake614 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Today I would have been SHOCKED if it wasn't a corpse in the basement That's what comes from watching Ron's shows for so long. Subtlety is decidedly not his forte. 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) Did he do it via interpretative dance? I wish. Today I would have been SHOCKED if it wasn't a corpse in the basement. That's just sad. Re: who guessed what and how predictable it was. imo, a story being predictable is better than a shock, as long as it's well told. Not that this was, but I don't judge it on how predictable it was. For my part I woulda been kinda disappointed if there was no body in the basement. In fact, Ron trying to do a 180 and shock everyone is probably what made this story so disjointed in the first place (besides TG's surgery). So they actually showed a corpse today? Why am I not surprised that Ron just had to go to the corpse well again? Shall I assume it wasn't as freaky/awesome as CorpseNash? yes. Although honestly I don't need it to be that freaky. Edited January 30, 2015 by ulkis 1 Link to comment
sometimesfan January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I wish. Re: who guessed what and how predictable it was. imo, a story being predictable is better than a shock, as long as it's well told. Not that this was, but I don't judge it on how predictable it was. For my part I woulda been kinda disappointed if there was no body in the basement. In fact, Ron trying to do a 180 and shock everyone is probably what made this story so disjointed in the first place (besides TG's surgery). yes. Although honestly I don't need it to be that freaky. Too bad it wasn't Mitch in the basement. Now, THAT would be a shock. 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) Noooo, I don't need Mitch either :p Should have been an alive Stefan in the basement! Edited January 30, 2015 by ulkis 2 Link to comment
sacrebleu January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 So, when Julian met a guy that looked like Luke in witness protection, that was Luke? Pretending to be someone who said he had work done to look like Luke Spencer? What are the odds we'll ever get an explanation for how Luke tracked down Julian Jerome in witness protection? The best thing about today's show, is the potential for Carrrrrrlos and Johnny to become best buddies and partners in crime. I want to see those guys on a road trip 4 Link to comment
magnolia11 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Too bad it wasn't Mitch in the basement. Now, THAT would be a shock. Wouldn't Prospect Park own the rights to Mitch? Link to comment
Sake614 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Fluke never said he had plastic surgery. I don't think he ever explained how he looks like Luke, but Julian didn't know Luke from a hole in the wall, so no explanation was necessary until he came back to PC. Wouldn't Prospect Park own the rights to Mitch? Possibly, but I don't know, since he wasn't still part of the show when PP took over. I was never quite clear on whether PP had the rights to ALL OL characters past or present, or just the ones that were still on the show when it ended, Link to comment
Chairperson Meow January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Dude, I so miss Mitch Lawrence. I need Mitch Lawrence owning Sonny now. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I love Roscoe Born, but Ron wore Mitch Laurence pretty thin on OLTL, a la Heather and...well, pretty much all of GH's villains. Speaking of GH villains, how awesome did Constance Towers look in her white furs. She is the greatest. In other news, I hope Helena takes a second out of her schedule to wipe Ivy off the planet. I find her pointlessness very irritating. Edited January 31, 2015 by TeeVee329 Link to comment
Gigi43 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I... Can't bother with this Fluke stuff. So to Franco sleeping with someone's husband and ending up pregnant (and raised the kid herself) is so wrong that causing an early birth, drugging her, and taking the baby, is an acceptable punishment?! Can Julian push him out of the car and run him over, repeatedly, PLEASE?! Sonny's fed up looks from continuing to have to hear Franco (and his yeah whatever hand wave when Franco told Sonny he hates him) was appropriately entertaining. I really need to get back to barely being able to pay attention when Sonny's on because I'm just getting more and more uncomfortable with this watchable Sonny! Calling Jakeson "soldier" has got to stop... Yesterday. If there was a drinking game for it I'm sure those 4 bottles of champagne pathetically hiding the bomb would be finished pretty fast. Shallow Stuff: I really like Lulu's dress. I think I'd wear it if I came across it shopping for a dress. The sparkle is eye catching but not in a "its too much" way." I HATE the straps on Maxie's dress. Maybe if they were black I could tolerate the bra strap style, they just looked so out of place and cheapened the look of the dress. I hate strapless dresses (too common... And too annoying making sure it stays up) but strapless would have been better than that. Her make up was nice though. Was a reason mentioned for Lucas not having a bowtie and I missed it? Edited January 31, 2015 by Gigi43 4 Link to comment
mybabyaidan January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Sam's face was hilarious when Carly apologized to her. I think she was expecting to see pigs fly next. JZ was painfully bad today when she said "the pollllliiiiiccceeee??" after Lucas told her where Sam and Patrick were. That's all I got. Everything else was just as bad. Helena in her ridiculous get up and Fluke hiding on the docks made me laugh for a good 5 minutes. And not in a good way. 5 Link to comment
Tiger January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Since this whole Fluke/Bill's Corpse/Luke thing will never given a proper explanation, i just want to know why Helena was dressed like Emma Frost aka The White Queen of The Hellfire Club. Between and all the times Sam has said "phoenix", I'm having some serious X-Men nostalgia. Edited January 31, 2015 by Tiger 3 Link to comment
jsbt January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 In honor of Bill Eckert - life's lonely vagabond, a misunderstood man of fateful refinement, old beyond his years - I have once again changed my avatar. 18 Link to comment
peachmangosteen January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Geez Michael, calm the hell down about Jason, you barely know the guy. That was annoying me so fucking much. I hate this story more than Fluke. Fucking Jason, ruining this show for me yet again. I could go with a Carlos/Johnny road buddy spin-off. Even with Sabrina along. I need this to happen. And honestly I think they have to bring Sabrina along. I'd watch it. Soooooo, I was doing more people watching than paying attention to the show. You could tell many were having actual fun in the background. What got me was Brad sitting and having a conversation with Sabreeeena. The actors may like each other but their characters don't. I wouldn't even have cared if Patrick hadn't been a sick at Brad's place yesterday. I normally love when the actors in the background are actually doing stuff, but it was annoying me that Brad and Sabrina were talking. And it made Patrick hating Brad because of 'what he did to Sabrina' even more annoying than it already was. Sabrina: And I want LOTS and LOTS of sex. Chocolate, and rocky road, and strawberry ... Carlos: SaBREEna, I keep telling you, that's ice cream. We've had lots and lots of ice cream together. Sheer brilliance. Edited January 31, 2015 by peachmangosteen 3 Link to comment
Lola16 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I dunno why, once they were free of the prison, the Mob Three didn't just shove Franco out of the van instead of listening to his annoying bleeting about Nina. Speaking of which, are we really supposed to care/be frightened for Nina? I'm rooting for Heather. Ava should have pushed him out at the Ferncliff exit. Would have solved many issues including distracting the car that's trailing them. I don't care about Franco one way or another but I did enjoy him plotting against Carly. I did not like him with Ava, Julian and Sonny. I do like that trio on the run though. Very humorous. Yes, I am sure it is Pat because of all the clues that made it actually make think it was Pat! So Fluke/Puke dressed up dead Bill in the orange nuthouse garb? For what reason? Reasons? Not sure we'll get those. Helena supposedly knew there was something in the basement that Fluke wanted protected. Did she know it was a corpse? And in other icky thoughts... how easy is it to dress and bend a 20 year old corpse? Wouldn't the stench of a mostly rotted corpse have been noticeable from the first floor? I doubt it's air tight down there. 4 Link to comment
Turtle January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Who the hell thought "Soldier Boy" would be a cute nickname? Every time I hear it, I want to jab a knitting needle through my ear drum. Why is no one chasing four escaped convicts, all of them in for murder? (Is that right?) I don't like Franco the character, but I do enjoy RH's hamminess. Mouthing "not my fault" behind Sonny was really amusing. I know others hate it, but it works for me. I especially like him when he's foiling any of Sonny's plans. I hope Sonny dies in the wreck. Sonny dying at the hands of Johnny's men would be fantastic. (Yes, I am drunk. My sober self knows Sonny will live forever.) My fear is that he'll be seriously injured and Michael will forgive him. And I will have to smash my television in to a million little pieces. Still don't give a shit about fake Luke. Forgot Carlos was involved though. That brings the count of people somehow involved in whatever this is to, what, 12? 375? 23,967? Part of what pisses me off about all this is that are real actual interesting stories that could be told right now, but instead soooooo much time (both per episode and over the last year or whatever) has been totally wasted on this crap that makes no sense, is boring, and features some of TG's worst work ever. I'm just so disappointed that after a few good days with the AJ murder reveal, this show spiraled so far down, again. I had such hope! My folly, I guess. More wine, please! Edited January 31, 2015 by Turtle 3 Link to comment
hcs January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I have decided I love Fluke! In my mind Fluke is Bill, the 20 year old corpse is Luke. Bill cheated on Laura fathered Ethan uttered all that nonsense about not wanting to be a father because he hated having to live Luke's life and has been trying to destroy Luke's history for the past 20 years. 11 Link to comment
Lillybee January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I don't understand why Hells seems to need Nujason since it seems that she has competent goons of her own. 2 Link to comment
Lola16 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 The same competent goons that let Jake escape in the first place? They are just as good as Julian's or Sonny's guys either. Link to comment
Lillybee January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I do wish we had more wacky hijinks from the Three Stooges and Ava in that van. I may need more wine but I thought MB was golden in those scenes. 2 Link to comment
Rick Kitchen January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 In other news, I hope Helena takes a second out of her schedule to wipe Ivy off the planet. I find her pointlessness very irritating. Ivy is the Governor's daughter, and it's because of Sonny rescuing her from the bomb that Sonny will get his sentence overturned. 1 Link to comment
testardo January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Who the hell thought "Soldier Boy" would be a cute nickname? Every time I hear it, I want to jab a knitting needle through my ear drum. Why is no one chasing four escaped convicts, all of them in for murder? (Is that right?) I don't like Franco the character, but I do enjoy RH's hamminess. Mouthing "not my fault" behind Sonny was really amusing. I know others hate it, but it works for me. I especially like him when he's foiling any of Sonny's plans. I hope Sonny dies in the wreck. Sonny dying at the hands of Johnny's men would be fantastic. (Yes, I am drunk. My sober self knows Sonny will live forever.) My fear is that he'll be seriously injured and Michael will forgive him. And I will have to smash my television in to a million little pieces. I have to take too much medicine to drink, so I can't watch this dreck I would be drunk if I did. Stick a fork in me. I am done and on the barge forever. Is FrankenRon trying to put this show in its grave? Fluke, dead AJ . Soldier boy for a killer for hire. Sonny isn't dead yet? why? Still don't give a shit about fake Luke. Forgot Carlos was involved though. That brings the count of people somehow involved in whatever this is to, what, 12? 375? 23,967? Part of what pisses me off about all this is that are real actual interesting stories that could be told right now, but instead soooooo much time (both per episode and over the last year or whatever) has been totally wasted on this crap that makes no sense, is boring, and features some of TG's worst work ever. I'm just so disappointed that after a few good days with the AJ murder reveal, this show spiraled so far down, again. I had such hope! My folly, I guess. More wine, please! 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Who the hell thought "Soldier Boy" would be a cute nickname? Every time I hear it, I want to jab a knitting needle through my ear drum. It's not as bad as "Mikey" though. :( 1 Link to comment
sometimesfan January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Ivy is the Governor's daughter, and it's because of Sonny rescuing her from the bomb that Sonny will get his sentence overturned. Cue more fat AJ jokes. Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Rick Kitchen, I had seen that spoiler. All the more reason for Helena to do me a favor and blast Ivy into oblivion. 3 Link to comment
boes January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Wow! I think this might be Geary's best work to date. I mean him playing both Fluke AND the corpse. I always suspected that AG would be a natural at playing a rotting corpse, but who knew he would also look so good doing it? I especially like the way his nose fell off. I bet anything that the missing nose is the reason for his strange accent. He is much less compelling as Fluke than he is as the corpse. Decomposition is something he should have insisted on a long time ago. I wonder if Helena will have a three way with both of them? What a tribute to the dead that would be! 23 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I forgot to say today that I'm pretty sure Helena and Luke are having sex from that remark about the cork :( blerg. Edited January 31, 2015 by ulkis 2 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Wow! I think this might be Geary's best work to date. I mean him playing both Fluke AND the corpse. I always suspected that AG would be a natural at playing a rotting corpse, but who knew he would also look so good doing it? Actually I suspect Geary would have totally sat in as the corpse if they'd have let him. Maybe they didn't want to waste time/make-up on it. Edited January 31, 2015 by ulkis 3 Link to comment
yowsah1 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Are there any other mental conditions out of brainwashing or DID that this could be? Fugue state. ETA: I saw this elsewhere - if guilt from killing Jake was the cause of whatever's going on with Luke i could actually get behind that, since the fallout of that story was wretched. But it will probably be some childhood trauma. Maybe Luke's sister Pat was killed by a drunk driver (Luke's father?) and when Luke killed Jake in an eerily similar fashion it triggered a mental breakdown. I hope Sonny dies in the wreck. Sonny dying at the hands of Johnny's men would be fantastic. Sonny dying, period, would be fantastic! 6 Link to comment
sometimesfan January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Actually I suspect Geary would have totally sat in as the corpse if they'd have let him. Maybe they didn't want to waste time/make-up on it. Sadly the way he's looking these days, little cosmetic enhancement would be necessary. 6 Link to comment
Francie January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Actually I suspect Geary would have totally sat in as the corpse if they'd have let him. Maybe they didn't want to waste time/make-up on it. I'm so not touching this .... 2 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Sadly their budget probably couldn't even afford that little bit of extra enhancement. Actually I suspect Geary would have totally sat in as the corpse if they'd have let him. Maybe they didn't want to waste time/make-up on it. I'm so not touching this .... lol give me some credit people! I decided to leave the obvious joke alone :p 4 Link to comment
Kitty Redstone January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Maura West has amazing restraint and is a great team player. I would have throttled Roger Howarth if I were her. He is fucking annoying. For the first time ever, I don't hate Sonny. It surely won't last, but it's nice to not be sickened by his on screen presence. Michelle Stafford plays Nina like there are thought bubbles appearing over her head. It's so stupid. 11 Link to comment
Francie January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I decided to leave the obvious joke alone :p The obvious joke? Oh, yes, please leave Ron out of this, too. ;) For the first time ever, I don't hate Sonny. It surely won't last, but it's nice to not be sickened by his on screen presence. It's called "the lesser of two evils." Edited January 31, 2015 by Francie 3 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I have been pretty nice to Ron today. I think I'm developing an alter. I'm so sad Kristen Alderson is leaving the show! So they never explained how Fluke got out of the cuffs. Magic handcuffs it is. ETA: Maybe we should change Fluke to ONJBHRAS Luke, aka, Oh Nevermind, Just Being His Regular Asshole Self Luke. Maybe a bit too long. Edited January 31, 2015 by ulkis 3 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Some random not-so-deep thoughts: -Hells looked like a snowball-shaped marshmallow Peep. -Sam literally recoiled when Patrick touched her in their final scene. -Sam being all self-righteous and "I told you so!" "My feeeelings!!!" was kinda annoying. -Why would Patrick want to leave Sam alone to talk to a supposed dangerous person? -LOL @ Michael randomly yelling at Maxie and Lulu about Jake's innocence. "I only spoke with him for 2 seconds, but HEWOULDNEVERDOTHAT ARGHHHHH!!!!" -Saaaaaaabrina is now escorting Caaaaarlos to a party? Saaaaabrina, who had problems with his mob ties is now OK being linked with him? Saaaaaabrina exists? -Nik and this random chick is worse than the randomness of Milo and Pip. What is with this regime and everything happening off-screen? -I'm totally checked out with everything Luke, so when I saw the rotted corpse, I was like, "Oh." -DZ is better than this shit he's been given. -Carly suddenly being this apologetic angel is classic. From the Sam convo to her princess routine with "Officer West" to her puppy dog eyes with Jake, I just want to vomit all over the attic Joss locked her nanny in. -Sonny/Ava/Franco/Julian/Nina/Heather = Snooze Edited January 31, 2015 by HeatLifer 6 Link to comment
OnceSane January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Why is no one chasing four escaped convicts, all of them in for murder? (Is that right?) Johnny and his guys are on it. Still don't give a shit about fake Luke. Forgot Carlos was involved though. That brings the count of people somehow involved in whatever this is to, what, 12? 375? 23,967?525,600? 5 Link to comment
boes January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Michelle Stafford plays Nina like there are thought bubbles appearing over her head. It's so stupid. And yet, those bubbles are empty.....but she's a really great actor - just ask her. 16 Link to comment
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