Episode Discussion: TFGH

[lovelynn]

I was really into the Ava/Nik plane scenes. So of course this tempNik has to show up and ruin it, typical GH. Also, I was kind of pleasantly shocked that Nina didn't blackmail Julian into helping her make a baby.

[Ladyrain]

8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Temp!Nik looks about a decade older than TC, and why is he clean-shaven and wearing no glasses?

Curtis's photo shoot is all I ever wanted.

Total agreement.  Those were my thoughts exactly when nuNik showed up today.  In all of actordom out there in L.A. they couldn't find one other actor who at least minimally resembled TC, had the same color hair, or was somewhere in the vague vicinity of his age?  This casting (and let's all hope that it is indeed just temporary) is ridiculous.  Plus the guy can't act; at least not in this role.  I could almost see him reading his lines off of cue cards.  I am so disappointed.  At this juncture in the plot, what horrible timing for TC to leave.

[TeeVee329]

Given this stuff with Ava was just beginning, they must have been down to the wire when they brought in the temp.  I figured Nikolas would be off-screen for a little bit and then we'd see the temp, but that's not how it played out at all.

[dubbel zout]

LOL at Jason oh-so-casually trying to read a newspaper.

15 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Anna prodding Paul to tell Sonny everything about their official, legal investigation into his mortal enemy severely grossed me out.  Oh Anna, please reconsider everything! 

And the reason for the prodding is because Sonny bribes police officers and will find out anyway! WTF?!

[rur]

12 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

 In all of actordom out there in L.A. they couldn't find one other actor who at least minimally resembled TC, had the same color hair, or was somewhere in the vague vicinity of his age?  This casting (and let's all hope that it is indeed just temporary) is ridiculous.  

I was playing cards on my tablet while listening (since it's better for my mental health than devoting the entire hour exclusively to GH), so I didn't see subNik at his first appearance. When I looked up to see him, they were already in Hux's castle of doom and the first view I got was a side shot -- and I did a double-take. In profile, he strongly resembles Sean Kanan, and my first thoughts were wondering why AJ had been brought back. So . . . this choice of actor may have been for . . . reasons we have yet to find out, or, on the other hand, maybe he was just the first actor someone ran into who would work for scale. 

[dubbel zout]

Ava seriously blamed Nik for their predicament? She's the one who glommed onto him the moment she realized she was sitting next to him on the plane. UGH.

Were we supposed to be cheering Sonny on as he badgered Alexis? Because he came across as a Grade A asshole. What a complete dick.

Edited June 17, 2016 by dubbel zout

[ulkis]

31 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Given this stuff with Ava was just beginning, they must have been down to the wire when they brought in the temp.  I figured Nikolas would be off-screen for a little bit and then we'd see the temp, but that's not how it played out at all.

Seriously. How disconcerting. This is not a good recast so far, physically. He could have at least been wearing glasses. I really wonder what happened with Tyler.

[Lillybee]

Temp Nik should at least been bearded. This will make me worry about Temp Maxie.

[Fellaway]

Sonny - Sonny Corinthos - standing in someone's living room and pontificating about how someone, anyone else, was "finally, finally" going to get what he deserves, defines what is wrong with this show.

[TeeVee329]

How about him barraging into a woman's home - after threatening her the last time they saw each other - and refusing to leave when she told him to.  That's fuckin' gross!

[Ladyrain]

51 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Seriously. How disconcerting. This is not a good recast so far, physically. He could have at least been wearing glasses. I really wonder what happened with Tyler.

And couldn't they have put a fake beard on him so the the whole bizarre re-cast wasn't so jarring?  Then he could have just 'shaved' it off for whatever reasons.  It's like two completely separate sets of writers wrote yesterday's show versus today's....and today's writers have never watched General Hospital.  How stupid they must think we viewers are. 

[Lee4U]

I hate they are having Alexis being treated like a potentially abused wife by the creep - his behavior towards her the past few episodes is awful - classic abuser (and, yeah, I know, a murderer too but I hadn't expected they would turn him into this as well).  Shouldn't be surprised though - these mob guys, Sonny included are all the same and for whatever reason and, Alexis who APPEARS to be a smart person, has been involved with both these goons.

Way too many mob figures on this show - as ever.

What is the whole Nina stuff?  Can't even watch - just terrible (as usual) acting (or whatever it is) from MS.  Felt second hand embarrassment watching her today - 

As to whatever the heck Finn is shooting up - I think the writers haven't been able to decide so they are drawing out this silliness.  

[peachmangosteen]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Curtis's photo shoot is all I ever wanted.

The entire episode should've just been that. Minus any Nina though.

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Wow, given the buzz about the scenes with Ava, bad timing for the temporary recast to step in as Nikolas.

Yea, this is really unfortunate. Th recast really killed any momentum this story had. I wanna know what happened with TC!

2 hours ago, rur said:

In profile, he strongly resembles Sean Kanan, and my first thoughts were wondering why AJ had been brought back. 

I agree. I wish your spec that that might be intentional was true!

57 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

It's like two completely separate sets of writers wrote yesterday's show versus today's....and today's writers have never watched General Hospital.

I imagine this happens quite a bit. 

Jason's face when Sam said she was "WSB agent Anna Devane" was the best acting BM has done on GH so far. I was rolling. I rewound it immediately to watch it again!

Edited June 17, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[ulkis]

Even without the rank hypocrisy, Sonny constantly barging in is tiresome. Enough with the blah blah gonna get Julian stuff. Sonny is on more than all his kids (seriously, he is) combined mostly just to whine about Julian.

Ridiculous music during the Julian/Nina "stand-off". 

Really Sam? She thinks she's less memorable looking than Jason? Jason practically fades into the woodwork.

Since people can tell something is off with him, no, Spencer should not get an emmy, oscar, or a cookie. 

[fishcakes]

Why would the PCPD arrest Alexis for killing Carlos? I mean, yes, she's murdered people before, but as between Julian and Alexis, Julian is obviously the one to want Carlos dead. This is going to be a pointless waste of time, I can tell already.

Nina is so stupid. She should have told Julian to give her Crimson, not pose naked for Crimson. I was kind of liking her when she was messing with Julian over what she told the police, but then she had to ruin it by not blackmailing him hard enough. 

Oh, hello, Curtis's eight-pack. Please come in and stay a while.

I wasn't watching the show when Kevin was a major character and have only seen him in the sporadic appearances he's made over the last 15 years or so, but I just love him now. I really want him and Laura to get a big story and see a normal romance for a change, where neither one of the people involved is a serial killer, amnesiac, wearing a latex mask, or using a fake name. Just dinners and movies and sex on the third date. LIKE PEOPLE.

[dubbel zout]

59 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Enough with the blah blah gonna get Julian stuff.

Sonny's not even doing anything. He's just pestering other people who are going after Julian.

[Fellaway]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

Since people can tell something is off with him, no, Spencer should not get an emmy, oscar, or a cookie. 

Seriously.  It's been pretty obvious he knows his dad is alive, but if Spencer thinks this is award winning acting...  As precocious and smart as they tell us he is, and as prone to the dramatic as we know he is, he could at least act sad his father is dead, not indifferent.  You'd think it'd be right in his wheelhouse.  Pretend you have to live as a townie, Spencer.  Embrace the Method.
 

34 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

Why would the PCPD arrest Alexis for killing Carlos? I mean, yes, she's murdered people before, but as between Julian and Alexis, Julian is obviously the one to want Carlos dead.

I thought maybe it was a ploy on the part of the police.  I mean, there really isn't anything on the knife to without doubt say Julian killed Carlos and Alexis' fingerprints are all over it.  Maybe they think the only way to get Julian is for him to confess, and the only way for him to do that is to exonerate Alexis.  And... maybe pigs can fly.

Yes, to more Laura/Kevin.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Fellaway

[Ambrosefolly]

4 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sonny's not even doing anything. He's just pestering other people who are going after Julian.

The way Sonny was talking today...I think he is using Anna like he used Duke and I am sick about how people go on and on about Sonny's resources compared to the PCPD. 

[P3pp3rb1rd]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Anna prodding Paul to tell Sonny everything about their official, legal investigation into his mortal enemy severely grossed me out.  Oh Anna, please reconsider everything! 

 Anna is just out of control. STFU Anna! Jordan was right about you. Anna is hell-bent to have justice for Dewq no matter how she has to get it.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

3 hours ago, ulkis said:

I really wonder what happened with Tyler.

He was raptured.

2 hours ago, Lee4U said:

What is the whole Nina stuff?  Can't even watch - just terrible (as usual) acting (or whatever it is) from MS.  Felt second hand embarrassment watching her today

Is Neener neener turning Crimson into a porn mag? She's just so very bizarre lately. The last issue featured a breastfeeding cover, and she's following that up with a kinky dominatrix theme featuring her publisher?

Edited June 17, 2016 by P3pp3rb1rd

[LexieLily]

If Alexis doesn't want Julian to come home and he is threatening to break down the door if she changes the locks, why doesn't she file for a restraining order and then file for divorce?

Why are police officers gossiping to civilians, especially civilians like Sonny, into an active and ongoing investigation?

Edited June 17, 2016 by LexieLily

[WendyCR72]

4 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

If Alexis doesn't want Julian to come home and he is threatening to break down the door if she changes the locks, why doesn't she file for a restraining order and then file for divorce?

Because that would give Alexis a semblance of intelligence and a backbone. And she was ruined ages ago for this ass? (She's now essentially Carly to Julian's Sonny and it's GROSS.)

[Lillybee]

I did enjoy the look on Sonny's face when Nathan arrested Alexis for Carlos's murder. Because of spousal privilege and attorney - client privilege will Alexis be able to say anything about Julian being responsible for the murder.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

Was that Kristina giving her mother sage advice about men when we just saw her go through an intense self-questioning about her own sexual identity and orientation?

[tricknasty]

Not!Nik is not working for me. 

[LexieLily]

Just now, tricknasty said:

Not!Nik is not working for me. 

He doesn't look anything like Nik and doesn't even look in Nik's age range.

[Sake614]

2 minutes ago, tricknasty said:

Not!Nik is not working for me. 

 

I think he's cute, but he is a bit old to be playing the character. 

[Perkie]

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Why would the PCPD arrest Alexis for killing Carlos?

It's the murder weapon, since it had his blood on it, and it has her fingerprints all over it.  And she could have done it to protect Julian.  It's not that far out of the reach of relm.

Did I miss something?  How did Ava and Nik end up at Huxley's estate?  They wanted to get rid of him the night before so when he showed in the morning they changed their mind and decided to hop into his car?  Wuh?  

[Sake614]

@Perkie reasons....and Helena. 

[Blackie]

Whaaaat??  I haven't watched for a while so I thought the Nik/Ava scenes this week were the most interesting thing on GH for a long time.  I didn't know TC was leaving temporarily.  Figures, this show would finally come up with an interesting combination and then.....

[testardo]

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Ava seriously blamed Nik for their predicament? She's the one who glommed onto him the moment she realized she was sitting next to him on the plane. UGH.

Were we supposed to be cheering Sonny on as he badgered Alexis? Because he came across as a Grade A asshole. What a complete dick.

As usual. No matter what anyone says TIIC are doing their damdest   to end it all. My stomach is still nausuas    Anna go on vacation before I hate you .Why the hell is Carlos's murder so important to the whole show ? Paul killed Sloane, Sonny take a pick, Julian even Alexis aimed her car at a kid ,killed him and got away with it. If they cancel this mess, I don't think I will be unset or, surprised. Maybe the chew can devour it.

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

How did Ava and Nik end up at Huxley's estate?  They wanted to get rid of him the night before so when he showed in the morning they changed their mind and decided to hop into his car?  Wuh?  

They got into the car they thought they'd hired, but it was Huxley or his driver instead. They fell asleep on the way, so didn't realize until it was too late that they weren't going where they expected.

[Perkie]

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

They got into the car they thought they'd hired, but it was Huxley or his driver instead. They fell asleep on the way, so didn't realize until it was too late that they weren't going where they expected.

Thank you.  I caught the part where they fell asleep in the car (why? It was morning , had they not slept the night before?  They both fell asleep?). But I missed where they said he was the driver.  

[TwistedandBored]

I am enjoying Jasam scenes. Seriously, Billy and Kelly's facial expressions are funny af! 

[tricknasty]

7 minutes ago, TwistedandBored said:

I am enjoying Jasam scenes. Seriously, Billy and Kelly's facial expressions are funny af! 

Boring as fuck to me. The whispering by Sam Is pissing me off. CC is my friend on this show.  No diss to the actress I know about her hearing disorder. They might want to turn up her mic

43 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Thank you.  I caught the part where they fell asleep in the car (why? It was morning , had they not slept the night before?  They both fell asleep?). But I missed where they said he was the driver.  

This is confusing me as well. Too much for me the night before?

[TwistedandBored]

3 minutes ago, tricknasty said:

Boring as fuck to me. The whispering by Sam Is pissing me off. CC is my friend on this show.  No diss to the actress I know about her hearing disorder. They might want to turn up her mic

 

Really, I can hear Sam just fine. I also find this storyline interesting. It started slowly but is now picking up speed. Jasam finally get to interact with other people that are not Liz, Carly, and Sonny. In the end, different strokes for different folks. 

[rur]

1 hour ago, tricknasty said:

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I caught the part where they fell asleep in the car (why? It was morning , had they not slept the night before?

This is confusing me as well. Too much for me the night before?

The car they were expecting was coming at 6 a.m., so they would have had to have been up even before that. 

Since they had only arrived in London the previous day, I guess it's reasonable to attribute the sleeping in the car to jet lag. But it would have been nice to have something about that as a throwaway line. 

Edited June 18, 2016 by rur

[UYI]

On 6/16/2016 at 5:04 PM, HeatLifer said:

Every man Sam encounters wants to have sex with her. That has been in the GH Handbook since 2003.

 

To be fair, this is something on GH that actually makes sense. I mean, look at her. 40 years old in real life and she looks like THAT. I'm a straight chick and I probably would, too.

On 6/16/2016 at 6:24 PM, Jazzy24 said:

I really can't blame them, have you seen KeMo? 

If I was a guy.......... Let's just leave it at that. 

Beat me to it! :)

On 6/16/2016 at 6:33 PM, HeatLifer said:

LOL. My comment was not a knock on KeMo. Just talking about the way Sam is written. Not a right/wrong thing.

I was late on this. Never mind :) 

[LeftPhalange]

They really should've sent Nik offscreen for a bit before they brought on the temp. Seeing TC one day and the temp the next is very jarring and has pretty much squashed whatever positive feelings I had for this thing with Nik and Ava. 

Why was Ava in the car with Nik? I thought she was supposed to be laying low in London for awhile? Also, STFU Ava.

I'm begging someone to come get Anna. Can Emma have her committed? 

The brokedown PCPD arresting Alexis for a murder she obviously didn't commit is such a huge waste of time. The writers could've just had her get arrested for aiding and abetting and/or obstruction of justice and it would've served the same purpose of forcing Julian to choose between his freedom and hers. Also, I love how the DA and whatever Anna is are openly discussing a current investigation with a mobster who has beef with the prime suspect. This is why the PCPD stays losing. 

Nina should have blackmailed Julian into giving her Crimson and a stack of cash. So tired of these people not taking full advantage of the blackmail opportunities given to them. 

BM and KeMo's facial expression are the only positive thing about this episode. 

[ulkis]

I feel like Frank V. saw Tyler with the beard and the glasses and the scenes with Maura West and said, "wait, Tyler, you look really good, but like a human being with charisma and not a generic model sort of way. And you have . . . chemistry? With Maura? Uh oh something interesting and organic is going on! Quick! Hire a kinda plastic-y man who is completely wrong for the role!"

That said, I don't think the actor is bad. Just way different looking than TC.

Edited June 18, 2016 by ulkis

[backhometome]

Its too bad about the timing of the recast because I was really into the Ava/Nik scenes.

BM and his facial expressions are killing me. 

Anna telling Sonny about police business had me rolling my eyes so hard. 

[Asp Burger]

I did not want to beat up on someone who stepped into a role abruptly, on a temporary basis, when I had only seen his first day, but I'm glad it's not just me. I'm not impressed at all with Nik 'o' Less. I don't think there's any danger of anyone saying, "It's a shame Tyler is coming back" when this one's days start running short. Even the 1999-2002 Nikolas recast with all the names would have been better, for old times' sake, although it wouldn't be as much fun without Jacob Young's Lucky for him to exchange "I love yous" and roll around on the ground with.   

On Curtis's dialect: In my opinion, both Curtis and André come off as well-educated guys who know how to speak standard English. Curtis just deviates from it as a shtick, dropping an "ain't" in once in a while and using slang or intentionally not having subjects and verbs in agreement. André doesn't. It works for the characters, in my opinion. I would rather watch and listen to the Curtis actor; André (character and actor) is kind of stilted.  

[fishcakes]

14 hours ago, Lillybee said:

Because of spousal privilege and attorney - client privilege will Alexis be able to say anything about Julian being responsible for the murder.

In real life, yes. On the show, probably not, just because it's more dramatic that way.

 

2 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

André (character and actor) is kind of stilted.  

Heh, that's being generous. After he told Jordan he loved her, I was expecting him to follow up with, "I love desk. I love lamp."

[Lee4U]

Did Julian set this all up to frame Alexis? Whose blood is on the knife?  

Maybe Ava and Nik were drugged - something put in their drinks plus jet lag?  I am not interested enough in whatever is happening with them to really care - - 

[ByaNose]

15 hours ago, LexieLily said:

He doesn't look anything like Nik and doesn't even look in Nik's age range.

Nick Stabile is only 2 years older than Tyler Christopher. I actually think he's better looking then Tyler. It really must have been midnight casting to replace Tyler. If there had been some advance notice Stabile could have grown a beard or scruff. At least, they've could have put the glasses on him. I heard KS is already back at GH playing Maxie. I think Tyler's might be something more serious and he could be off a long time. I wonder if they will play this storyline out and send NS packing or will he stay on the air as long as Jen Lilley did. I wonder how much notice they had when they had to replace KS with Lilley? I think she ended up playing Maxie for a whole year. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Lee4U said:

Maybe Ava and Nik were drugged - something put in their drinks plus jet lag?

Nah, I think it's simply a combination of jet lag and having to get up really early that morning. Huxley has been mustache-twirling enough that if they'd been drugged, I think we'd have heard something.

That said, I couldn't care less why he's after Ava.

[Bill C.]

Ava's just collateral damage for Evil Fop Huxley, AIUI.  He's after Nikolas for whatever damn reason, and she tagged along because that's what she does, and the one reason I don't want to see EFH get hit by a double-decker bus yet is for that reason to come out.

[dubbel zout]

He said he was after Ava specifically, though I guess that could have been a red herring.

[UYI]

48 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Nick Stabile is only 2 years older than Tyler Christopher. I actually think he's better looking then Tyler. It really must have been midnight casting to replace Tyler. If there had been some advance notice Stabile could have grown a beard or scruff. At least, they've could have put the glasses on him. I heard KS is already back at GH playing Maxie. I think Tyler's might be something more serious and he could be off a long time. I wonder if they will play this storyline out and send NS packing or will he stay on the air as long as Jen Lilley did. I wonder how much notice they had when they had to replace KS with Lilley? I think she ended up playing Maxie for a whole year. 

 

I don't know how much notice JL had, but I do know KSt was originally scheduled to come back considerably earlier than she did, but her health issues were still plaguing her by that point, so JL stayed until KSt was healthy enough to come back. 

Edited June 18, 2016 by UYI

[Perkie]

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Did Julian set this all up to frame Alexis? Whose blood is on the knife?  

Carlos's blood is on the knife.  Julian stabbed him multiple times then wiped the blade with his shirt, but they said they found a trace of blood where the handle and the blade meet, so Julian didn't clean as well as he thought/should have.  Alexis' prints are all over the knife because after Julian wiped it of his prints and put it back in the cupboard, she saw it, realized it was the murder weapon, handled it than threw it across the room, the put it back in the cupboard.  

I don't beleive julian would try to frame Alexis.  But with these writers, who the heck knows.