iMonrey February 6 Share February 6 16 hours ago, Maelstrom said: Because Johnny excels at being annoying. It annoys me that he calls Terry "Terrance." Nobody else does, and it feels so pretentious. 2 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 6 Share February 6 53 minutes ago, iMonrey said: It annoys me that he calls Terry "Terrance." Nobody else does, and it feels so pretentious. Johnny *is* pretentious. I sure wish he and motormouth would be replaced as commentators. They were even yakking away during the gala and that's supposed to be solely "show time" for the skaters and the audience. I read an interview someone did with Terry, maybe 8-10 years ago. He said that figure skaters were not thought of as "real" athletes by his fellow retired athletes and sports commentators. He said that he let them know how incredibly fit skaters are, and all that they go through each day to be so strong (or something like this, can't recall exactly what he said). Terry said that he too was surprised when he first began working at competitions and saw skaters constantly working out in between practice sessions and performances on ice. 9 Link to comment
Maelstrom February 6 Share February 6 I will say that I enjoy Johnny's perspective as someone who actually competed under the current scoring system, and I find that *on occasion* he does offer some interesting insights. But more often the pretentiousness, the cattiness, the chattering, and the general "a lot-ness" is tiresome at best and incredibly frustrating at worst. And it pisses me off every time he judges a skater's music bad just because he personally doesn't care for it. Shut up, Johnny! That is really cool about Terry spreading the word to other commentators about how hard figure skaters worked train. Another reason he's the best! 8 Link to comment
Avaleigh February 7 Share February 7 7 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: Johnny *is* pretentious. I sure wish he and motormouth would be replaced as commentators. They were even yakking away during the gala and that's supposed to be solely "show time" for the skaters and the audience. I enjoyed listening to Adam and Ashley at nationals. I'm hoping they're going to be the B team I get to listen to when the Olympics rolls around. It's funny that I very much prefered listening to Johnny and Tara back when they were the B team at Sochi. They were much better to listen to than Scott and Sandra. Now though I'd like to see them replaced. My perfect team would be Adam and Polina, but I'd settle for Adam and Ashley. With Johnny, I'm a little tired of his bias towards the Russians. It even extends to favoring Russian Americans and skaters who are coached by Russians and/or former Soviet skaters. Like he thinks no other skating school styles have anything to offer. 6 Link to comment
carrier76 February 7 Share February 7 18 minutes ago, Avaleigh said: I enjoyed listening to Adam and Ashley at nationals. I'm hoping they're going to be the B team I get to listen to when the Olympics rolls around. It's funny that I very much prefered listening to Johnny and Tara back when they were the B team at Sochi. They were much better to listen to than Scott and Sandra. Now though I'd like to see them replaced. My perfect team would be Adam and Polina, but I'd settle for Adam and Ashley. With Johnny, I'm a little tired of his bias towards the Russians. It even extends to favoring Russian Americans and skaters who are coached by Russians and/or former Soviet skaters. Like he thinks no other skating school styles have anything to offer. Last night I watched Jason Brown’s Riverdance program from 2014, and I have to say we are MUCH better off with Tara and Johnny (and Terry). I also just wanted to ask how others felt about Lindsay Thorngren’s skating. I know she is dealing with an injury, but man, I just watch her and all I can think is, “There’s no ‘there’ there.” 1 Link to comment
Avaleigh February 7 Share February 7 1 minute ago, carrier76 said: Last night I watched Jason Brown’s Riverdance program from 2014, and I have to say we are MUCH better off with Tara and Johnny (and Terry). I also just wanted to ask how others felt about Lindsay Thorngren’s skating. I know she is dealing with an injury, but man, I just watch her and all I can think is, “There’s no ‘there’ there.” Agreed that Johnny and Tara are better than Scott and Sandra, but after ten years I'd like to see a new lineup. Terry can stay though. I think he's great. Thinking on old commentators, I also can't say that I miss Peter Carruthers. I still remember the way he seemed more preoccupied with certain skaters looks as opposed to their skating. Regarding Lindsay Thorngren, my biggest issue with her is that she seems miserable out there. It's entirely possible that skating is her greatest joy and I'm totally reading it incorrectly, but she reminds me of the kind of skaters who are skating because they feel they have to, not because they particularly want to. As far as her actual skating, the jumps need work and the UR issues with her are pretty constant--that being said, I do see a big improvement this season with her overall skating skills save the jumps. I think her spins are, to quote Uncle Dick, first rate and her footwork has definitely improved. Next season I'd like to see her with programs that she really enjoys and maybe that will help. Starr Andrews skating skills aren't quite as good as Lindsay's (IMO) but the joy she has for skating is obvious and it makes her programs fun to watch even when she makes mistakes. Part of the appeal to me is that she generally chooses music she connects to. 3 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty February 7 Share February 7 Gracie's book arrived today. Can't wait to dive in! 1 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 7 Share February 7 1 hour ago, Avaleigh said: I enjoyed listening to Adam and Ashley at nationals. I'm hoping they're going to be the B team I get to listen to when the Olympics rolls around. It's funny that I very much prefered listening to Johnny and Tara back when they were the B team at Sochi. They were much better to listen to than Scott and Sandra. Now though I'd like to see them replaced. My perfect team would be Adam and Polina, but I'd settle for Adam and Ashley. With Johnny, I'm a little tired of his bias towards the Russians. It even extends to favoring Russian Americans and skaters who are coached by Russians and/or former Soviet skaters. Like he thinks no other skating school styles have anything to offer. Wow! I'm so surprised to read such nice remarks about Ashley & Adam. Over at Golden Skate, their commentating has been trashed ad nauseum. I've always liked A & A, so it was good to learn they did well. 1 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty February 7 Share February 7 I thought they talked too much and took away from the performances. Yes, even worse than Johnny and Tara. I wasn't impressed. They need time and are best left on the B team for now. 1 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 7 Share February 7 15 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: I thought they talked too much and took away from the performances. Yes, even worse than Johnny and Tara. I wasn't impressed. They need time and are best left on the B team for now. You'd think someone from the NBC sports dept would train them (& re-train Tara & Johnny!) There have to be complaints coming in about the excessive talking during each skater's time on the ice. 1 Link to comment
Avaleigh February 7 Share February 7 1 hour ago, annzeepark914 said: Wow! I'm so surprised to read such nice remarks about Ashley & Adam. Over at Golden Skate, their commentating has been trashed ad nauseum. I've always liked A & A, so it was good to learn they did well. Yeah, I'm im the minority about Adam and Ashley although I will admit to enjoying Adam's commentary over Ashley's. That's why I said in a perfect world my new line up would be Adam, Polina and Terry. It's a fair point that they talk a lot, but I think for me the content of what they have to say doesn't grate on my nerves the way Johnny's commentary does. At this past nationals he particularly annoyed me during Jason Brown's long. Hey, it wouldn't be the first time I've disagreed with people over at Golden Skate. They can be extra savage with the commentary over there. That's why I only lurk. 1 Link to comment
Avaleigh February 7 Share February 7 On 1/29/2024 at 10:47 AM, annzeepark914 said: It was shocking to see how thin our pairs competition/program has become. Some teams were competing at senior level who really didn't belong there. I wanted to reply to this before the forums went down. Yes, it was a little hard to watch how thin the pairs field is right now. I'm guessing some of these teams didn't have much competition at sectionals because there were only 10 teams. Gone are the days when there'd be 12-15 pair teams at nationals. Honestly, the field isn't that deep internationally either. Even though I don't enjoy admitting it, I can be fair enough to acknowledge that pairs is the only discipline where I absolutely feel the absence of the Russians. Men, ladies, and dance are still incredibly deep. There are multiple top notch exciting skaters who keep the competition interesting and make it feel like it isn't set in stone who will win. I don't miss the Russians in those disciplines at all. That being said there are some notable bright spots in pairs that keep me watching. Miura and Kihara have been a delight to watch the past three years and are hopefully inspiring the next generation of pairs skaters. Conti and Macii are getting better every season and I look forward to seeing how they do in the team event at the Olympics in two years. If Italy gets the right woman they could have a real shot for the bronze in 2026. Deanna Stellato is beyond fierce and inspiring. I love how many men and women in figure skating are proving that age really is just a number. 6 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 7 Share February 7 8 hours ago, Avaleigh said: It's a fair point that they talk a lot, but I think for me the content of what they have to say doesn't grate on my nerves the way Johnny's commentary does. At this past nationals he particularly annoyed me during Jason Brown's long. Hey, it wouldn't be the first time I've disagreed with people over at Golden Skate. They can be extra savage with the commentary over there. That's why I only lurk. I wasn't listening to John 😎 during Jason's LP because I'd hit the mute (I've never liked Impossible Dream & wondered if Jason, the man who skated to Sinnerman!! just slapped this program together). Yes, indeed. A lot of the folks at GS can be savage. They've been particularly brutal toward Chock & Bates. It's not so bad at FSU. 4 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty February 7 Share February 7 Yeah, I hang at FSU because it's mostly civil discourse. 😀 3 Link to comment
ChicksDigScars February 8 Share February 8 (edited) On 2/6/2024 at 1:37 PM, Maelstrom said: I will say that I enjoy Johnny's perspective as someone who actually competed under the current scoring system, and I find that *on occasion* he does offer some interesting insights. But more often the pretentiousness, the cattiness, the chattering, and the general "a lot-ness" is tiresome at best and incredibly frustrating at worst. And it pisses me off every time he judges a skater's music bad just because he personally doesn't care for it. Shut up, Johnny! That is really cool about Terry spreading the word to other commentators about how hard figure skaters worked train. Another reason he's the best! I have noticed that since the doping scandal at the Olympics, Johnny has toned down his worship for all things Russian. Whether that was a personal decision or one based on "we're not going to glamourize cheating" by NBC, I don't know, but I notice the lack of the rapturous and orgasmic over-pronunciation of Russian names, and I thank 8 pound 6 ounce newborn infant Jesus who don't even know a word yet, for that. I mean, he still does it, but not as often or as obvious as he used to. As far as GS and their trashing of Chock and Bates, I remember someone commenting that they're mostly G/P fans. So, we're back to the Canada vs U.S., V/M fans trashing D/W, now? I guess if I went over there and asked why Piper has her mouth open like a blow up doll when she skates, they'll get pissed off? :D Edited February 8 by ChicksDigScars 4 1 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 8 Share February 8 @ChicksDigScars The comment about GS folks gushing over Piper & Paul, while harshly criticizing C/B, was mine. And you're so right--it's like the worship of V/M while trashing D/W all over again. 2 Link to comment
Maelstrom February 9 Share February 9 4 hours ago, ChicksDigScars said: I have noticed that since the doping scandal at the Olympics, Johnny has toned down his worship for all things Russian. Whether that was a personal decision or one based on "we're not going to glamourize cheating" by NBC, I don't know, but I notice the lack of the rapturous and orgasmic over-pronunciation of Russian names, and I thank 8 pound 6 ounce newborn infant Jesus who don't even know a word yet, for that. I mean, he still does it, but not as often or as obvious as he used to. Funny, I've been thinking that Johnny's making up for the lack of Russian names to overpronounce by overpronouncing *everyone's* names. It's been driving me bonkers. Then again, I think I'm at the end of my patience with him and Tara both between watching Nationals and 4CC coverage back to back. And no Terry at 4CC to babysit them! 😭 #ShutUpJohnny #ShutUpTara 4 Link to comment
specialj67 February 9 Share February 9 My gift to myself for my 40th birthday is going to Montreal to see the last day of the world championships—free dance and men’s free skate! After seeing how well Yuma did at 4CC, I am so excited to (hopefully) see him skate in person. Really, the talent is so deep in both fields, I’m looking forward to seeing so many of these competitors. I don’t think anyone in my meatspace life fully appreciates how much figure skating is a Special Interest of mine and how much I’m looking forward to this! 10 Link to comment
annzeepark914 February 17 Share February 17 Is anyone else reading Gracie Gold's book? Several people over at GS said they couldn't put the book down. I sure can even though I've only gotten up to 2013. I just need a break from her depression that comes off the page (of my Kindle). One thing I learned is that judges are watching the skaters (& their families!) at events...all the time. Even in restaurants. I'd never heard of this from other skaters' comments (retired skaters, of course). 1 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty February 17 Share February 17 Gracie's book was a sobering reminder of the pitfalls that can come from skating. She seemed to find every one. I'm glad she's come out the other side with a positive, healthy mindset. She was definitely right to warn readers that they might not like skating much when she was done with her story. Her letter to skating was so poignant. Chapter 17 was a tough read. 1 2 Link to comment
CeeBeeGee March 2 Share March 2 Alysa Liu is un-retiring! She's going to compete again starting next season! 5 3 Link to comment
annzeepark914 March 2 Share March 2 5 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said: Alysa Liu is un-retiring! She's going to compete again starting next season! At least this time around we won't be worrying about her very young age. I wonder if she'll bring a quad to her first competition, after her time off. 1 Link to comment
carrier76 March 2 Share March 2 I am….underwhelmed. I guess we’ll see. Every time I think of her I think of that insipid Barbra Streisand program and her very junior choreography. Hopefully things have changed. 1 Link to comment
ChicksDigScars March 4 Share March 4 (edited) You think now that she's 18, she's coming back because she can now make her own decisions regarding her career? No more daddy butting in? Wasn't he a big time buttinsky control freak? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Edited March 4 by ChicksDigScars 1 Link to comment
CeeBeeGee March 4 Share March 4 2 hours ago, ChicksDigScars said: You think now that she's 18, she's coming back because she can now make her own decisions regarding her career? No more daddy butting in? Wasn't he a big time buttinsky control freak? Or am I remembering incorrectly? No, you're remembering correctly. He was a notorious stage father. 4 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 4 Share March 4 I wonder if part of the motivation is that she doesn’t have to deal with the cheating Russians either. No need to break your bones trying to learn quads when your competitors had an unfair advantage all along. 4 2 Link to comment
Good Queen Jane March 4 Share March 4 Neset/Markelov won Jr. Worlds in Dance to be undefeated in junior competitions this year. Flores/Wang came in second and Williams/Lewer came in third in Pairs. Now if the US can only figure out a way to keep these teams together once they start competing at the Championship level! 3 Link to comment
KittenPokerCheater March 4 Share March 4 I think she’s coming back only because it’s an Olympic year. I’m sure her meddling father sees this and wants her to get a team medal (since I’m not sure she’ll medal in an individual event). 2 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 March 5 Share March 5 https://olympics.com/en/news/figure-skating-amber-glenn-usa-champion-2024-role-olympic-dream-exclusive A nice article about Amber. Her multiple year quests at Nationals reminds me of Rudi Galindo's efforts. So glad both of these excellent skaters finally won the gold! 2 Link to comment
Avaleigh March 8 Share March 8 On 3/3/2024 at 8:00 PM, Mellowyellow said: I wonder if part of the motivation is that she doesn’t have to deal with the cheating Russians either. No need to break your bones trying to learn quads when your competitors had an unfair advantage all along. I think she needed a break to reevaluate whether or not she still has a passion for skating. I think she's coming back with the goal of wanting to compete in the team event in the next Olympics. I say this because if it was really about the Russians then she would have continued to compete knowing the Russians wouldn't be in for the 2023 and 2024 seasons. She was well positioned to be the American frontrunner if she'd stayed for the last two seasons. (Will the Russians be back for the 2026 Olympics?) I just hope her coming back is what she wants to do and that she isn't being pushed by others. Hopefully we'll get to see programs where her personality shines through and it's less about what other people think she should be as a skater. I don't think she needs to worry about quads, but it would be nice if she could hit a fully rotated 3A. It would be awesome if she and Amber could both consistently land them to the point where they could include it in their short programs too. That would give the Americans a real advantage in the team event. 4 Link to comment
Tippi March 16 Share March 16 Worlds Championships are this week. Hope some of the peeps here can attend--it's in Montreal this year. It seems like most here watch on Peacock. I don't have that, but my cable provider is providing some coverage on the USA Channel starting this Thursday. I don't see anything airing on NBC, but I might have missed it on the schedule. I'm hoping for good skates from everyone, but I'd really like to see Amber put together two great programs. How would a clean Amber with triple axels in both programs score against Kaori? 5 Link to comment
peachmangosteen March 16 Share March 16 28 minutes ago, Tippi said: I don't see anything airing on NBC, but I might have missed it on the schedule. This schedule has NBC airing the men's free skate on Saturday and then a recap of the whole competition on April 14th. 1 1 Link to comment
Avaleigh March 17 Share March 17 As much as I love Kaori, I'd like to see Loena bring home gold this year. Regarding Amber, if she delivers two clean programs and one triple axel, I don't see why she couldn't finish third. I'm pretty sure that first and second are out of the question though unless a lot of mistakes are made from the top medal contenders. AFAIK she isn't planning on trying a triple axel in the short. If she could do it in both programs though that would go a long way towards her being a major threat to the other top tier ladies. 2 1 Link to comment
KittenPokerCheater March 17 Share March 17 I’d still like to see Kaori win again for sentimental reasons. Will Mai be there? She is another skater I like. While I like Amber, I’m not a fan of her programs this season. But I’d like to see her make the Olympics. Link to comment
perkie1968 March 17 Share March 17 This is the list of competitors: https://results.isu.org/events/wc2024_Women.htm https://results.isu.org/events/wc2024_Men.htm https://results.isu.org/events/wc2024_Pairs.htm https://results.isu.org/events/wc2024_IceDance.htm Link to comment
annzeepark914 March 17 Share March 17 21 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: This schedule has NBC airing the men's free skate on Saturday and then a recap of the whole competition on April 14th. So, we don't get to see the RD? When the current world champs are from the same country as NBC? 1 1 Link to comment
KittenPokerCheater March 17 Share March 17 (edited) I think the USA network is also carrrying worlds. It boggles me that we in the USA don't get to see the rhythm dance. Especially since Ice Dance has so many high profile teams forr the USA. The USA women/pairs are inconsistant at best right now. Edited March 17 by KittenPokerCheater 4 Link to comment
peachmangosteen March 17 Share March 17 44 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said: I think the USA network is also carrrying worlds. Yep. Both programs for men and women and the frees for dance and pairs. I too find it odd they never show the rhythm dance when USA is so competitive in dance. 5 Link to comment
MaryMitch March 18 Share March 18 @perkie1968 or @redpencil - can one of you post the results home page for the event? For example, for the US championships they have this page: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2024/33688/index.asp where you can get to all the results. 1 Link to comment
redpencil March 18 Share March 18 (edited) @MaryMitch The results page isn't up yet I don't think. It will be in the list of links here, or that page will redirect, not sure. Either way, that's the link you need for now until it's available. Edited March 18 by redpencil 1 Link to comment
justmehere March 18 Share March 18 For those wanting full Worlds coverage: The basic plan on Peacock is $5.99/month, and you can cancel any time (i.e. after Worlds; I don't know if they offer a free trial). I haven't noticed commercials when watching skating live, though I have encountered a few on replays. They generally have a World feed, which covers all skaters, and a shorter one that is from the NBC feed with just the top groups. Replays are likely to be available only for 24-48 hours. Alternatively, you can watch the ISU YouTube coverage with a free VPN. I hear Opera browser still works, and Windscribe has a free option (along with a Fire TV/Stick app for TV viewing). There are others. Set the country to Canada or some other non-U.S. location (may need to experiment to find one that unlocks all the videos), and you can watch full coverage of all skaters. Replays available. Re: Windscribe - the free bandwidth is limited, but you can expand it for just a few dollars. The World feed through either of these options has different commentary than NBC - no Johnny & Tara - if that interests you. I enjoy it. Link to comment
perkie1968 March 18 Share March 18 The results link is not up yet, but hopefully by tomorrow since it will show the order of skate. This is the link it would be on and it would show up as "starting order and results" under the line of 'practice groups' https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00117492.htm You can also find it here once they've updated it. https://montreal2024.com/schedule-and-results/ cbc is streaming live and usually has the videos up for about a week after the event https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/figure-skating/streaming-schedule 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 March 18 Share March 18 (edited) On 3/18/2024 at 4:38 PM, Salacious Kitty said: CBC is blocked in the States. Y'know...I would enjoy watching Worlds through the eyes of Canadian commentators (& it sure as heck would be better than listening to Tara!) Is NBC blocked in Canada? Edited March 20 by annzeepark914 2 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty March 18 Share March 18 22 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said: Y'know...I would enjoy watching World through the eyes of Canadian commentators (& it sure as heck would be better than listening to Tara!) Is NBC blocked in Canada? I guess anything could be accessed with a VPN. But who would CHOOSE Johnny and Tara? 3 3 Link to comment
perkie1968 March 18 Share March 18 2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said: CBC is blocked in the States. So sorry, I didn't realize. Quote NBC blocked in Canada? I can get on the website but it won't let me watch anything. Link to comment
annzeepark914 March 18 Share March 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, perkie1968 said: So sorry, I didn't realize. I can get on the website but it won't let me watch anything. Something odd is going on here. I just deleted a comment I never posted 👀 Edited March 19 by annzeepark914 Link to comment
wintrygal March 19 Share March 19 4 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: Y'know...I would enjoy watching World through the eyes of Canadian commentators (& it sure as heck would be better than listening to Tara!) Is NBC blocked in Canada? According to my on screen guide here (Canada) there will be coverage on NBC as well as CBC. This is through Rogers Television tho I assume you would have to be a Rogers customer to access it, not sure tho. CBC seems to be covering all of it, so I'll be watching it there, better commentators (IMO). Link to comment
Salacious Kitty March 19 Share March 19 9 minutes ago, wintrygal said: According to my on screen guide here (Canada) there will be coverage on NBC as well as CBC. This is through Rogers Television tho I assume you would have to be a Rogers customer to access it, not sure tho. CBC seems to be covering all of it, so I'll be watching it there, better commentators (IMO). I don't think Rogers is in the States. Link to comment
CeeBeeGee March 19 Share March 19 On 3/16/2024 at 6:28 PM, peachmangosteen said: ...and then a recap of the whole competition on April 14th. So soon? /s 1 1 Link to comment
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