Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Marigold]

I think J Rod is delusional and perceives (I'm being kind) all sorts of things that are not actual events.  In her mind, these things really happen...in reality?  nothing even close.  

She probably saw a woman in the IHOP bathroom and then guessed the person was  trans and then felt like she was going to be attacked and had a freak out.  In reality, it was a boring woman using the bathroom.  Jill believes this really, truly happened.

A Trump doormat?  Probably an orange doormat and Jill made some connection in her head  Orange doormat= Trump.   

We all know people like this...they are always having some type of problem, drama, argument, incident while the rest of us are like "huh?". 

[Sew Sumi]

The doormat at my local Starbucks is gray.  The only anti-Trump in that place are the people. ?

[Marigold]

Jill enjoys the victim mentality. Always in conflict. Always in drama.  Always the target of someone. 

I avoid people like that. It's exhausting trying to fake concern for shit we know is a total craziness.  Plus, they scare me.  

[babyhouseman]

20 hours ago, louannems said:

I just saw the last BUB and it seems Jedson and Judson lit a fire in the family's huge communal closet/linen room,/laundry room. The fire department came and the next day, a fire restoration company came and hauled away 70 Hefty bags of clothing for cleaning! Now the family is living in a hotel. The show was fascinating for me because it was not scripted, just obviously reenacted.

They were lucky no one was hurt. From what I understand, the parents were gone so the older siblings were in charge. I like the Bates better than the Duggars, but these Gothard families' tendencies to let the older ones mind the younger ones for long periods of time sucks. 

Edited March 10, 2017 by babyhouseman
correct words

[GeeGolly]

When and why did the Bates go Gothard?

[Mollie]

3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

When and why did the Bates go Gothard?

 

Probably when they started homeschooling and found out about the Gothard ATI homeschool courses.  That's my guess.

[Sew Sumi]

25 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

When and why did the Bates go Gothard?

Erin probably can't look at herself in this pic. SHORTS!!!!! Escandele!

Edited March 12, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[BitterApple]

Wow, young Erin looks exactly like Alyssa's oldest daughter.

[RazzleberryPie]

JRod is insane. That is all.

No wait, I'm not done lol. She's insane and scary. She would rather believe some false, far fetched, ridiculous, poorly patched together conspiracy theory than the truth. 

I was at a Target today. They had Bibles for sale. I was also at not one but TWO Starbucks, and they both just had plain gray commercial doormats.

Guess what else. The second Starbucks I went to was to go to a Bible study. Of course it was mixed gender, mixed marital status and I don't think any of us use KJV, and I wore yoga pants, my headship was of playing basketball, and we didn't force any heathens to join us, so it doesn't count as legit JRod Bible study, but anyway.....

Jill is a nut. 

The Bates - didn't they have some sort of crisis over using birth control that prevents implantation or was that also the Duggars?

I personally think they were always conservative Christians, but Gil has short man syndrome and needs a church that gives him a lot of authority and makes him feel big. He's actually pretty hot in those old pics. 

[Sew Sumi]

The Duggars were the ones who were told by good ole Dr. Wheat (also of Marriage Book fame) that BC pills were a form of abortion. 

Kelly was just super fertile from day one, popping out kids every 13-15 months for several cycles. 

[Almost 3000]

8 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

He's actually pretty hot in those old pics. 

I've told this story here before but it makes me laugh so here it is again. Back in the TWoP days posters called Gil "Hot Daddy" so I had to google him for a pix because curiosity got the better of me. Clicked on it and got a virus. Those Gothard's are unsafe in more ways than one.

[pinkelephant3]

Carlin Bates  just posted a pic on Instagram that makes it seem like she's courting ...Any idea who it is?!

[Sew Sumi]

Probably Lawson. :D

[awaken]

My goodness, the infantile pink romper on Kelli jo is that pic is the worst!  Rivals Michelle's red collared clown dress. the toddlers in that pic are dressed more age appropriately!  

[Nysha]

The Bates may have gotten sucked into the Gothard cult through homeschooling. When I was looking into homeschooling, 20 years ago, ATI was considered the most "Christian" curriculum out there. You could only use it if you passed their criteria - no TV, faithful church attendance at the right type of church, promise to strictly discipline your kids. There was a sense that the parents approved were elite, so I could see where that would make some people want to be even more elite and special by diving into the whole Gothard lifestyle. 

[RazzleberryPie]

15 hours ago, awaken said:

My goodness, the infantile pink romper on Kelli jo is that pic is the worst!  Rivals Michelle's red collared clown dress. the toddlers in that pic are dressed more age appropriately!  

https://goo.gl/images/P1hLqm

I remember these big ugly collared, Capri length, with cuffs, onesies being big in the early 90s. One of my elementary school friend's sisters was in the popular preppy group in high school, and a bunch of the girls had senior pics made in these. With white panty hose and white heels. Horrific then and now. These were homecoming queens and cheerleaders, etc. at a public school. Not somewhere lost in Fundieland. Hideous.  

At least Kelli was probably hiding baby belly and chasing kids at a beach.

Edited March 14, 2017 by RazzleberryPie

[Lady Edith]

Ok.  I read J-Rod's blog.  

Someone sent them porn?

:'-D

What I wish these people would realize is that there is nothing dirty or wrong about sex.  God created it.  But mankind made it about power and used it to control people (when, where, and with whom).  And women who embraced it were labeled "harlots" and stoned (verbally or literally).  

I seriously get the willies when I see her crazy eyes.  She gives the BEST crazy eyes.  

[BitterApple]

12 minutes ago, Lady Edith said:

 

I seriously get the willies when I see her crazy eyes.  She gives the BEST crazy eyes.  

J-Rod is every Lifetime movie character cliche rolled into one.

[maraleia]

This fire incident at the Bates house makes me wonder if the two boys got spanked really hard based on the Gothard discipline mandate. I know they took them to some of the houses that were affected by the fires in their area which is a good way to teach young kids about the dangers of fire but I don't think that was the only discipline they received.

[kalamac]

I have to admit the first thing I thought when I heard about the fire was a book I read once where the characters were saying they were going to start a fire in the laundry room as a distraction to escape. (And now it's bugging me that I can't remember the book). In reality they probably forgot to clear the lint filter in the drier or something. Poor boys, at least they were trying to do laundry, unlike the Duggar boys who are happy just to bitch about not having anyone to clean their clothes.

[Guest]

I thought the boys were playing with a lighter and that's how it started...

[kalamac]

2 minutes ago, heatherrrrz said:

I thought the boys were playing with a lighter and that's how it started...

I missed that part.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, kalamac said:

I missed that part.

I'm pretty sure the little boys were playing with a lighter, I think that's what Gil said anyways.

[Sew Sumi]

Yeah, the kids were playing with a lighter. I think they knew enough to know that it was a "bad" thing to do, which is why they hid in the laundry room to play around with it. I still wonder who was supposed to be watching them. I guess Josie and Katie (or was Katie in FL, I forget that part)? Was Carlin even attempting to go to Clown then? Because now it looks like she's pre-courting. Josie is at their cosmetology school. That leaves Katie (maybe?), Nathan (never mentioned if he was on the tree job) and Trace, really. Lawson had pulled an all-nighter, and Gil and the boys had left on a tree job, but with no mention of Nathan, all we know is that he took the middle boys. 

What I'm trying (very badly) to say is that the fire wasn't THAT early in the morning. The girls were likely at school and everyone else in the house downstairs doing school or whatever. Any older boy who wasn't sleeping or on a tree job and Katie (if she was even there) were in charge. This is why you don't have 19 kids. 

Edited March 14, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[louannems]

12 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

https://goo.gl/images/P1hLqm

I remember these big ugly collared, Capri length, with cuffs, onesies being big in the early 90s. One of my elementary school friend's sisters was in the popular preppy group in high school, and a bunch of the girls had senior pics made in these. With white panty hose and white heels. Horrific then and now. These were homecoming queens and cheerleaders, etc. at a public school. Not somewhere lost in Fundieland. Hideous.  

At least Kelli was probably hiding baby belly and chasing kids at a beach.

That pink/white striped romper with the big sailor collar- I have a picture of my daughter in that outfit!  On her first birthday!  She was born in 1989.

[Sew Sumi]

Oh, sailor collars were still big in the 90's. My wedding had 50 people at my parents' house. We had one attendant each. My sister (L, local) in this pic and my SIL (R, from NYC) were not in the wedding party. 

 

 

[crazycatlady58]

There is a good  chance they did get a spanking ,  but I have never  seen the kids scared  of anyone.  Once the youngest  one got into trouble  about something  and Gil said they needed to have a talk he very trustingly  (is that a word?)  took Gils hand and they walked off, no fear, in fact it was cute. So while I think they get a spanking when needed I do not think they are beat.

[GeeGolly]

Than hands in the Carlin Instagram pic look short & stubby - like Gil.

[louannems]

38 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Than hands in the Carlin Instagram pic look short & stubby - like Gil.

To me, the hand's look young.    I think Gil's would be weathered from his tree cutting business.

[Natalie68]

On 3/7/2017 at 4:33 PM, ariel said:

More pearls of wisdom from Jill R 

"We put safeguards up and our children do NOT have their own phones…until it is necessary for them to have them when they get older."

Jill - your children shouldn't have phones. What they need now is food, not phones you idiot. They look starving & underfeed.

This woman is a total nut and I really feel for the kids.  Wonder if any of the Duggars look at them and think that could be them or worse when TLC decides they will quite sponsoring crazy fundies?  Had tv not come calling, with 19 kids, they would REALLY have a lower quality of living.  

[Natalie68]

On 3/14/2017 at 4:22 AM, RazzleberryPie said:

https://goo.gl/images/P1hLqm

I remember these big ugly collared, Capri length, with cuffs, onesies being big in the early 90s. One of my elementary school friend's sisters was in the popular preppy group in high school, and a bunch of the girls had senior pics made in these. With white panty hose and white heels. Horrific then and now. These were homecoming queens and cheerleaders, etc. at a public school. Not somewhere lost in Fundieland. Hideous.  

At least Kelli was probably hiding baby belly and chasing kids at a beach.

That is just awful.  I am SOOO glad I either have blocked this from my memory or never saw them.  Someone who hates women designed that monstrosity.  WOW!

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

There is a good  chance they did get a spanking ,  but I have never  seen the kids scared  of anyone.  Once the youngest  one got into trouble  about something  and Gil said they needed to have a talk he very trustingly  (is that a word?)  took Gils hand and they walked off, no fear, in fact it was cute. So while I think they get a spanking when needed I do not think they are beat.

I have seen very few episodes of this show (don't get that channel) and I have seen this scene.  You are right, he didn't look scared.  The Bates are a much cuter family than the Duggars.  They have the same stinking ideas but are more attractive.

[garnet207]

20 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, the kids were playing with a lighter. I think they knew enough to know that it was a "bad" thing to do, which is why they hid in the laundry room to play around with it. I still wonder who was supposed to be watching them. I guess Josie and Katie (or was Katie in FL, I forget that part)? Was Carlin even attempting to go to Clown then? Because now it looks like she's pre-courting. Josie is at their cosmetology school. That leaves Katie (maybe?), Nathan (never mentioned if he was on the tree job) and Trace, really. Lawson had pulled an all-nighter, and Gil and the boys had left on a tree job, but with no mention of Nathan, all we know is that he took the middle boys. 

What I'm trying (very badly) to say is that the fire wasn't THAT early in the morning. The girls were likely at school and everyone else in the house downstairs doing school or whatever. Any older boy who wasn't sleeping or on a tree job and Katie (if she was even there) were in charge. This is why you don't have 19 kids. 

Kelly took Katie with her to visit Michael & Brandon in Chicago.

[EtheltoTillie]

Who is Jilly Rod?

[pinkelephant3]

I doubt it's Gil's hand in Carlin's picture as creepy as these families are that picture and caption is just too much!

[Gweilo]

...It's probably Jesus.

[Jynnan tonnix]

1 hour ago, GussieK said:

Who is Jilly Rod?

http://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/?page_id=174

Another Fundy Mom...rather like Michelle with a few less kids and a lot more ambition. Don't know whether it's just the mad ambition or what, but she actually appears exponentially more deranged than Michelle. Watch some youtube clips and don't say nobody warned you!

[EtheltoTillie]

Thanks!  Now that I've seen the link, I realize I've seen something about them before.  

[MrsMommy]

What every happened to Toby? I think that was his name, the dad from the willis family? 

Yall have probably mentioned it somewhere bit i spaced on him until last night.

[Almost 3000]

5 minutes ago, MrsMommy said:

What every happened to Toby? I think that was his name, the dad from the willis family? 

Yall have probably mentioned it somewhere bit i spaced on him until last night.

He's in prison. Yes, really. Check out their show forum.

[Mollie]

10 minutes ago, MrsMommy said:

What every happened to Toby? I think that was his name, the dad from the willis family? 

Yall have probably mentioned it somewhere bit i spaced on him until last night.

"A seemingly squeaky-clean Christian family band from Tennessee consisting of 12 telegenic kids who gained fame on America’s Got Talent and got their own TLC reality show has quietly imploded with the arrest of the children’s father on a child rape charge in Kentucky.

"Toby Willis, 46, the hard-driving patriarch of The Willis Clan who said he expected his kids to achieve “excellence” in all they did, was arrested in tiny Greenville, Kentucky, on Sept. 9, just hours before his family was to perform in concert at the Felix Martin Jr. Hall.

"After Willis was taken away from the venue in handcuffs on a fugitive from justice warrant by Greenville police and detectives from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, his family went ahead with the show anyway, a source close to the case said.  

"The TBI began investigating Willis on Aug. 29 after receiving information that Willis had a sexual encounter about 12 years ago with an underage child, according to a police statement issued after Willis’s arrest. In Tennessee the charge of child rape applies to the sexual assault of children between the ages of 3 and 12.

"Nashville’s Newschannel5 reported Wednesday night that Willis had allegedly been charged with raping a family member. It said the family member had been 'removed by Willis from her bed and raped.' It also reported that 'authorities confirmed Willis was not allowed to go around his biological children or his wife.'"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/14/the-willis-clan-no-more-a-christian-family-band-comes-apart-amid-child-rape-allegations.html

Toby's prelimenary hearing on the charges was rescheduled four times.

"Toby Willis was arraigned on four counts of child rape on Monday, March 13, in Ashland City after a grand jury heard his case, said Circuit Court Clerk Julie Hibbs.

"Willis pleaded not guilty to the charges, read by Circuit Judge Larry Wallace. His official plea date is set for July 11, and the trial is set to begin July 18."

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/cheatham/2017/03/13/toby-willis-arraigned-four-counts-child-rape/99134826/

Edited March 16, 2017 by Mollie

[MrsMommy]

Thank you Mollie

[Mollie]

1 minute ago, MrsMommy said:

Thank you Mollie

Thank Google.  Mr. Google knows all!

[ChiCricket]

46 minutes ago, Mollie said:

Thank Google.  Mr. Google knows all!

If Google knows all..I say it must be *Ms* Google.

Men don't get to ALWAYS get credit..LOL

JMHO ;-)

Edited March 16, 2017 by ChiCricket
Because I wanted to.

[Nysha]

1 hour ago, Mollie said:

"Nashville’s Newschannel5 reported Wednesday night that Willis had allegedly been charged with raping a family member. It said the family member had been 'removed by Willis from her bed and raped.' It also reported that 'authorities confirmed Willis was not allowed to go around his biological children or his wife.'"

 

Wow, how utterly sad. At this point, I'm beginning to think JimBob was right when he said that family molestation isn't unusual in his world. 

[Sew Sumi]

Jill said in the Megyn Kelly interview that "statistics say" that 2/3 of families expeienced this. I'd love to know where she got those numbers. Too lazy to drag up the interview now, but she used the word "statistics," so it's really on her to produce the "study" that produced them. 

[Mollie]

10 minutes ago, Nysha said:

Wow, how utterly sad. At this point, I'm beginning to think JimBob was right when he said that family molestation isn't unusual in his world. 

It's also part of the TLC family show world: The Willis Family (now canceled, of course) and the Honey Boo Boo show (resurrected on another network). 

3 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Jill said in the Megyn Kelly interview that "statistics say" that 2/3 of families expeienced this. I'd love to know where she got those numbers. Too lazy to drag up the interview now, but she used the word "statistics," so it's really on her to produce the "study" that produced them. 

Jill: " And I feel for the other families out there. I mean, statistics say two-thirds of families deal with something like that and that's only the families who are reporting it. And I feel for the other victims out there and other families who maybe the parents may take a pause before they do something to report or to take care of what's going on, and maybe, you know, these other victims will continue to live just not even having their situations dealt with."

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/06/05/exclusive-duggar-sisters-want-to-set-record-straight/

[RazzleberryPie]

3 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Jill said in the Megyn Kelly interview that "statistics say" that 2/3 of families expeienced this. I'd love to know where she got those numbers. Too lazy to drag up the interview now, but she used the word "statistics," so it's really on her to produce the "study" that produced them. 

Hmm....Bates, Duggar, Willis = 2/3 had this stuff going on. Even a broke clock is right twice a day, right Jill?

So is this why the oldest Willis girl left their band/show, etc? Article says she is 24, so 12 years ago would've been 12. This is total Nancy Drew speculation on my part.

[Micks Picks]

The Tennessee newspaper reference was dated in March of this year, 2017.  He has apparently has not been to trial yet but under psychological exam at the request of his lawyer.  We should check the paper for how the case advances from this point on, and we'll catch the whole trial.

[RazzleberryPie]

10 hours ago, Micks Picks said:

The Tennessee newspaper reference was dated in March of this year, 2017.  He has apparently has not been to trial yet but under psychological exam at the request of his lawyer.  We should check the paper for how the case advances from this point on, and we'll catch the whole trial.

Psyc exam + wealthy = he's going to plea PTSD psychosis from the car wreck and get off.