Spartan Girl November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 Oh, how I hope the fact that it's called "Closure" means we will finally be free of Ward... 2 Link to comment
kitlee625 November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 Yeah the writers need to stop trying to make Ward happen. They talk about what an amazing villain he is, but I just don't see it. He could be interesting, but the vibe I get from him is more "creepy OK cupid stalker guy" than evil genius. 2 Link to comment
Jack Kerouac November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 You just know they are going to give him a power. Then he'll be lame and Inhuman. 1 Link to comment
Fogh November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 You just know they are going to give him a power. Then he'll be lame and Inhuman. If Thomas is "on ice" in the ACTU that means he is inhuman which also would make Grant an inhuman. Now if Rosalind turns out to be Ward's sister, (who might also be a part of the organisation with Gideon that send Will to the alien planet) then maybe that is the surprise Ward is in for tonight. Could be the reason why she wants to find a cure... Just a crazy theory hehe. Link to comment
Spartan Girl November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 You just know they are going to give him a power. Then he'll be lame and Inhuman. I will only put up with that if he's gone for good by season's end. Or midseason finale. Whichever. 1 Link to comment
Ariah November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 So, anyone ales thinks next episode someone will blow terrigen up Ward's face which does turn him into a cocoon and later on gives him some destructive powers? (Closure = the closing of a chapter on human-Ward, the closing of the cocoon)? Link to comment
Crim November 20, 2015 Share November 20, 2015 If they make Ward an Inhuman and keep him on the show indefinitely, the "Closure" title will be relevant on a personal level for me: I will be that much close to real closure with the show. I kid, I kid. But I fast forward the Ward scenes, and I don't like doing that, which usually means it's just a matter of time until I quit a show. Interviews - Nothing on Ward though. Link to comment
kitlee625 November 20, 2015 Share November 20, 2015 Considering that last season Ward wanted to get "closure" for Kara by torturing Bobbi, my guess is that he's taking a similar approach to himself getting closure by torturing/killing Coulson. Link to comment
Fogh November 20, 2015 Share November 20, 2015 My guess is that Ward will try to hit two birds with on stone. Kill Coulson and kidnap whomever they need to open the "minilith". Probably Fitz and Simmons since they both have unique knowledge and they have leverage over them by the ability to hurt the other. In that interview, I loved how Chloe has been waiting for as long or even longer as the shippers for the FitzSimmons kiss. :) 1 Link to comment
Jack Kerouac November 20, 2015 Share November 20, 2015 Considering that last season Ward wanted to get "closure" for Kara by torturing Bobbi, my guess is that he's taking a similar approach to himself getting closure by torturing/killing Coulson. I would think Ward is going after May as a way to get to Coulson. But you are right, it will all be a fakeout in order to capture Fitzsimmons. Link to comment
Fogh November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Vague spoilers for 3x10: Anything Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? — GenesisRemember when Skye transformed into an Inhuman and killed Tripp in the process? That’s nothing compared to what’s in store this year, according to Clark Gregg. “I would say that this midseason finale has two shocking twists and both of them are bigger than anything that happened in last season’s midseason finale,” he says. Link! Link to comment
Jack Kerouac November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Vague spoilers for 3x10: Anything Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? — Genesis Remember when Skye transformed into an Inhuman and killed Tripp in the process? That’s nothing compared to what’s in store this year, according to Clark Gregg. “I would say that this midseason finale has two shocking twists and both of them are bigger than anything that happened in last season’s midseason finale,” he says. Link! I'm calling it - Ward turns Inhuman and kills May. Possibly Fitz or Simmons as well. Link to comment
Fogh November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I'm calling it - Ward turns Inhuman and kills May. Possibly Fitz or Simmons as well. I hope the showrunners don't think that the FitzSimmons kiss was enough payoff for all the angst they have thrown at us. I don't see either of them dying but I'm sure they will through more angst towards us. As for May, I'm trying to figure out what her purpose is now. Can they still save Andrew from turning into Lash permanently? Is there even a cure? If not, then I can see the writers sacrificing May. I'm also pretty confident that Ward turns into a Marvel character. 1 Link to comment
Raja November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 (edited) As for May, I'm trying to figure out what her purpose is now. Can they still save Andrew from turning into Lash permanently? Is there even a cure? If not, then I can see the writers sacrificing May. I'm also pretty confident that Ward turns into a Marvel character. I am pretty sure Ward and the other true believer Hydra for lack of a better term as well as the mooks are now on fish oil hoping to get a contaminated tablet. Surely if their long plan works and they get what they're being a mere human follower drops them from the new leadership class to possible serfs for the new master species. Surely Gideon Malick knows this with his talk about ward not being the apex predator before he proved he was one. As for May in Army terms she serves as Director Coulson's First Sergeant after serving as his bodyguard in Bahrain. The senior NCO adviser to the commander, nick named "Top" from an earlier top soldier in the company. With her former trainee Daisy being the junior officer set to take command. I suppose Mack could slide into that role for Coulson as he provides the same service to what ever team he is on, often for Daisy. Edited November 21, 2015 by Raja Link to comment
Fogh November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 As for May in Army terms she serves as Director Coulson's First Sergeant after serving as his bodyguard in Bahrain. The senior NCO adviser to the commander, nick named "Top" from an earlier top soldier in the company. With her former trainee Daisy being the junior officer set to take command. I suppose Mack could slide into that role for Coulson as he provides the same service to what ever team he is own, often for Daisy. The story seems to be progressing towards "Secret Warriors" and "Civil War" and with Bahrain revealed, Andrew gone and Coulson not needing supervising anymore, there isn't a clear direction to take May other than just being one of the team like Mack and while that's fine with me, it might not be for the writers. I'm just trying to figure out who they could kill off if they are. Link to comment
DeLurker November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I'm calling it - Ward turns Inhuman and kills May. Possibly Fitz or Simmons as well. LaLaLaLaLa...I can't hear you... LaLaLaLaLa...I can't hear you... wash/rinse/repeat 1 Link to comment
Ariah November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 As far as I'm 120% certain that Ward will turn inhuman one way or the other, I'm not so trigger happy with killing off May... "two shocking twists" may or may not mean someone is actually dying. One would be the whole Ward-inhumanization thingy, but it can be done in such a way that the audience is led to believe he's dead - he's consumed by the cocoon and left on the alien planet (yesss) or somewhere in a dark storage room, or in a colapsed cave... And then, in the final seconds of the episode, we see his cocoon breaking and flames rushing out. Or something. So, that's one twist. Another twist may be linked to Bobbi and Hunter leaving the show for their own spin-off. I'm still hung up on the word "twist", which means something we expect does not happen, but something other does. Naturally, those who know the spin-off is in the making, won't be surprised with the duo leaving the show, but... what can be the cause of their decision? Perhaps Mack's death? Now that Lincoln has been added, Mack could be pushed to the background and eventually killed off (noooo!). Another take on the "twist": Will is not human (yes, we're all at least partially suspecting that, but think about a regular user. That could be a twist for them - to have a final shot of Will cradling Simmons with tenderness and joy... and see his eyes turn yellow/red/black) (also, I refuse to even think about May, Simmons and Fitz dying. THAT is not happening ) Link to comment
Fogh November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 (edited) 3x10 description A battle between Hydra and S.H.I.E.L.D. will change Coulson's world; Fitz and Coulson take a huge risk. Link! 3x10 cast: Justin Gant ... stunt double: Iain De Caestecker Edited November 21, 2015 by Fogh 1 Link to comment
Nana November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Vague spoilers for 3x10: Anything Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? — Genesis Remember when Skye transformed into an Inhuman and killed Tripp in the process? That’s nothing compared to what’s in store this year, according to Clark Gregg. “I would say that this midseason finale has two shocking twists and both of them are bigger than anything that happened in last season’s midseason finale,” he says. Link! My thoughts--purely based on the use of the word "bigger"--is that we might see a large scale "Inhumanization." I'm basing it on the fact that we saw that Mallick was clearly testing the fish oil on people secretly, and I don't believe Mark Dacascos' character is meant to be the only result of that. Perhaps Mallick has weaponized the fish oil in some way? Or maybe it happens by other means. But I feel like it might be a "one fell swoop" kind of situation, with many people turning Inhuman at once. The fact that they specifically mention Daisy's turning into an Inhuman and the fact that Tripp died because of it, makes me think there is a slight possibly we see some of our SHIELD agents in harm's way as people "turn." It also opens up the opportunity for Hunter and Mockingbird to spin-off, with part of their objective being tracking down these new Inhumans. The spec that Ward is, himself, Inhuman is certainly interesting. I'm leaning toward liking this idea, because it gives Ward more purpose in general. I actually *love* Ward as a villain. I was rooting for him to take out Mallick's goons in the last episode we saw. The addition of Mallick kind of diminishes Ward a bit, sadly, and his being Inhuman would certainly fix that. They could also be referring to the much-speculated idea that Will is actually the Big Bad on the Big Blue Planet that Mallick has told us about. That could certainly be one of the "shocking twists" Gregg is referring to here. Of course, it all really depends on if we are going back to the Big Blue Planet or at least opening a portal to it in 3x10. I'm definitely not too keen on the idea of losing one of our agents, though! I love them all so much right now--excepting maybe Lincoln, but that's only because he hasn't really been given an opportunity to do much, yet. The idea of one of them dying is pretty freaking upsetting. I'd like to think it's not going to happen, because story-wise, I just don't think it needs to. Link to comment
Raja November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Perhaps Mallick has weaponized the fish oil in some way? Or maybe it happens by other means. But I feel like it might be a "one fell swoop" kind of situation, with many people turning Inhuman at once. The fact that they specifically mention Daisy's turning into an Inhuman and the fact that Tripp died because of it, makes me think there is a slight possibly we see some of our SHIELD agents in harm's way as people "turn." It also opens up the opportunity for Hunter and Mockingbird to spin-off, with part of their objective being tracking down these new Inhumans. The spec that Ward is, himself, Inhuman is certainly interesting. I'm leaning toward liking this idea, because it gives Ward more purpose in general. I actually *love* Ward as a villain. I was rooting for him to take out Mallick's goons in the last episode we saw. The addition of Mallick kind of diminishes Ward a bit, sadly, and his being Inhuman would certainly fix that. I don't think they are going that way because of the 17 month simulation with terragin being all over earth's eco system. So it matters little if a bomb goes off in the next episode or two seasons down the line we just have Inhumans instead of mutants all over, the first of which who are intentionally exposed were forced to join Malick or die and it will be public knowledge and not just a conspiracy nuts theory. And SHIELD, the pre Afterlife battle Inhumans and presumably Gideon Malick knows it wasn't the metamorphosis or mist which killed Trip but rather the Inhumans jury rigging of a diviner to avoid Kree detection which allowed a toxic metal into the mix which killed Agent Triplett. Link to comment
Fogh November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 What about the idea of the Inhuman entity taking control of Fitz? .. Lots of potential there for drama since the team trusts Fitz more than anymore maybe and it separates FitzSimmons again in a believable way. 1 Link to comment
Ariah November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 What about the idea of the Inhuman entity taking control of Fitz? .. Lots of potential there for drama since the team trusts Fitz more than anymore maybe and it separates FitzSimmons again in a believable way. As long as the real Fitz is there and not gone like Fred to Illyria... Then I may give it a try ;) 1 Link to comment
Crim November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 (edited) I agree that one of the twists might be Hunter and Bobby leaving - it would be a twist for the general audience, I presume. Regardless of May having anything in particular lined up for her in terms of story line, with those 2 leaving, doesn't the team get small enough without her or Mack dying? Lincoln recently joined, but he is not a trained agent. And even if they get Will, and he is not revealed to SHIELD as the Inhuman or otherwise evil, he is not an agent and is years behind on... everything; it'd take him time to just get used to what the world has become. I suppose they could get an influx of new people from Roz's team or Inhumans, but majorly changing the main cast would not be best described as a great twist imo. not gone like Fred to Illyria... This reference warms my heart. Edited November 21, 2015 by Crim 1 Link to comment
Raja November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I agree that one of the twists might be Hunter and Bobby leaving - it would be a twist for the general audience, I presume. Regardless of May having anything in particular lined up for her in terms of story line, with those 2 leaving, doesn't the team get small enough without her or Mack dying? Lincoln recently joined, but he is not a trained agent. And even if they get Will, and he is not revealed to SHIELD as the Inhuman or otherwise evil, he is not an agent and is years behind on... everything; it'd take him time to just get used to what the world has become. I suppose they could get an influx of new people from Roz's team or Inhumans, but majorly changing the main cast would not be best described as a great twist imo. Judging by how Banks the man with a shady past went with his boss I don't think Roz's team breaks up even if President Ellis now knows it was infiltrated by Hydra, it will remain a US governmental agency in the same general line of work. Only they will go through a purge like SHIELD did in the aftermath of The Winter Soldier. With the proposed Most Wanted and Damage Control spinoffs just in the planning stages I guess that means ultimately Daisy, Hunter and Bobbi characters are safe from sudden death baring the stars being found with child porn and fired. Link to comment
Chris24601 November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 In terms of deaths, I'm not too worried actually. Joss is not the actual Whedon in charge of the series and even if he was, Joss is not nearly the "anybody can die" guy that a lot of people paint him as. While Trip's death was shocking, it was also done because the actor just couldn't meet the availability of the show. None of the other deaths have been more serious than a supporting character, not a lead like May. Frankly, its the tendency to NOT kill core characters outside of an actor deciding to leave the series that makes me think that, not only is May safe, but we can probably look forward to a lot more Ward down the line (um... yay?). I'm certain Mac's safe too. I know the plans are for a Hunter/Bobby spin-off, but so far as I know its only been a pilot order announcement from late August so I think the timing is off for those two leaving to be a mid-season twist (given the timing of the pilot approval I wouldn't expect to see it any sooner than this summer). Similarly, its way too soon for a tie in to Civil War so that can't be it either. One twist is almost certainly that Ward is going to be revealed as some official B- or C-list Marvel villain, but the other is far more up in the air. I suppose it could be May being killed off, but even if Andrew becomes Lash full time, I don't see how that ends May's arc. If anything that cements her need for vengeance on Ward AND gives her an arc of having to stop the creature her husband has become (bonus points if there's still enough of Andrew in Lash that he's more than just a killing machine). So for the second twist I'd lean towards something related to the monolith/ancient inhuman and setting up a mission to stop it from being released (ex. they need ALL the pieces taken from the original monolith brought together to re-open the portal). If you wanted a REAL twist, Simmons and/or Fitz ends up working WITH Ward because its also the only way to rescue Will from that planet too. 1 Link to comment
Fogh November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 (edited) Updated version of the 3x10 description “Maveth” – S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra go head-to-head in a battle that will change Coulson's world forever. While Daisy and her team of Inhumans fight to keep Hydra at bay, Coulson and Fitz take the ultimate risk, in the epic winter finale of “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,” TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.” stars Clark Gregg as Director Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May, Brett Dalton as Grant Ward, Chloe Bennet as Agent Daisy Johnson, Iain De Caestecker as Agent Leo Fitz, Elizabeth Henstridge as Agent Jemma Simmons, Nick Blood as Agent Lance Hunter, Adrianne Palicki as Agent Bobbi Morse, Henry Simmons as Agent Alphonso “Mack” Mackenzie and Luke Mitchell as Lincoln Campbell. Guest starring are Blair Underwood as Andrew Garner, Constance Zimmer as Rosalind Price, Juan Pablo Raba as Joey Gutierrez, Powers Booth as Gideon Malick, Mark Dacascos as Giyera, Garrett Hines as Hydra soldier and Brandon Ford Green as third soldier. Link! Edited November 23, 2015 by Fogh Link to comment
Maverick November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 I'm guessing Colson and Fitz go through the portal. Either Hyrda is closing in on them and it's their only way to escape being killed or the go through purposely to save Will and Andrew (the logo on Andrew's holding cell seemed to indicated he was going to be sent through). Link to comment
Fogh November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) The wording is puzzling to me. It use to say "huge risk", now it is "ultimate risk". Ultimate risk doesn't have be death related. It often isn't. The ultimate risk is risking your heart. At least that is poetic interpretation and one writers like to use. Edited November 24, 2015 by Fogh Link to comment
Spartan Girl November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 I really, really hope Ward dies in the midseason finale. 1 Link to comment
Fogh November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 I really, really hope Ward dies in the midseason finale. I don't think he does and it would be kinda ironic now that he has finally gotten interesting (or at least the majority of the internet response seems to be of that opinion). Link to comment
Spartan Girl November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 The season finale then. He can't stay on the show forever. 2 Link to comment
Fogh November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Not confirmed but reports are that Natalia Cordova hast been cast as Slingshot in Marvel’s AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Link! 1 Link to comment
Jack Kerouac November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Not confirmed but reports are that Natalia Cordova hast been cast as Slingshot in Marvel’s AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D Interesting. Haven't heard of the character before, but seems kind of a lame power. Link to comment
Raja November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Interesting. Haven't heard of the character before, but seems kind of a lame power. Lame? The Flash is going into a second season with multiple Flashes running around their multiple universe. The spring back to start makes an interesting twist sort of a fast power projection. Sort of a Mr Fantastic flashing his extended body out for a fixed point or a Guardians of the Galaxy's Groot in the MCU fast growing a limb to reach out. You can only have so many extra strong martial artist Link to comment
Jack Kerouac November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Lame? The Flash is going into a second season with multiple Flashes running around their multiple universe. The spring back to start makes an interesting twist sort of a fast power projection. Sort of a Mr Fantastic flashing his extended body out for a fixed point or a Guardians of the Galaxy's Groot in the MCU fast growing a limb to reach out. You can only have so many extra strong martial artist The speed part isn't lame, the having to return back to where she started is lame. I get that it adds a power limitation, but it's just silly. They could add another power limitation, without it being so arbitrary and ridiculous. If they call her Yo-Yo, I will never stop laughing at the character. Then again, at least they are getting going with the Secret Warriors, so there is that. Link to comment
TVSpectator November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 I was going to post this here, but I see that others have beaten me to it. Looks like they are going to introduced a new character (and the character does have source material from the comics).... It looks like we know who the next Secret Warrior joining Quake will be one Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Slingshot will be joining Coulsen and his ragtag group of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents. Who's Slingshot you ask? Slingshot (Yo-Yo Rodriguez) is the Puerto-Rican daughter of the Griffin. She is recruited by Nick Fury to join his anti-Skrull task force,which becomes known as the Secret Warriors. http://ikwiz.com/watch.asp?id=19658&name=EXCLUSIVE+BREAKING+NEWS%21+Marvel%27s+Agents+of+S.H.I.E.L.D.+Casting+News+%7C+Newsbite+%7C+That+Hashtag+Show+ The speed part isn't lame, the having to return back to where she started is lame. I get that it adds a power limitation, but it's just silly. They could add another power limitation, without it being so arbitrary and ridiculous. If they call her Yo-Yo, I will never stop laughing at the character. Then again, at least they are getting going with the Secret Warriors, so there is that. Both names come from the comics, but yeah, both names are kind of lame. Link to comment
Ariah November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Both names come from the comics, but yeah, both names are kind of lame. I'm pretty sure those who came up with those names high-fived themselves with joy and squeeled "see what we did there? see?" (and yes, the Yo-Yo part is not only lame but kind of offensive) Link to comment
SocaShoe November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 I personally think the showrunners can no longer complain that they have "too many cast" members since they keep adding new ones. I know that they're committed to the Secret Warriors storyline, but to me, it should have been adjusted in order to keep most of the current team for television. I get that Bobbi and Hunter will be gone for awhile (at least long enough for ABC to make the decision on whether or not to pick up the pilot), but darn it, even recurring cast members take time away from the ones we're concerned about. However, I find it interesting that they chose Yo-Yo because in the comics she ends up losing both of her arms on a mission so maybe she's going to be a red shirt ensign type of character - around just long enough for the characters to feel bad about her injuries. Link to comment
toomuchtv47 November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 3x09 sneak peak Link! OOhhhhhh. I get the impression that may not be Coulson. Then again, I'm easily fooled but wasn't there a spoiler about Ward screwing with them? Link to comment
Spartan Girl November 26, 2015 Share November 26, 2015 Oh no you don't, Daisy! Don't you dare start going soft on Ward now! 1 Link to comment
KatWay November 26, 2015 Share November 26, 2015 Might be Ward posing as Coulson. Cause Daisyskye is telling him exactly what she would think Ward would want to hear. That might actually be an interesting episode. I'm still interested in what happens with Ward. Link to comment
Raja November 26, 2015 Share November 26, 2015 Might be Ward posing as Coulson. Cause Daisyskye is telling him exactly what she would think Ward would want to hear. That might actually be an interesting episode. I'm still interested in what happens with Ward. I always wondered if he would have harvested Agent 33/Kara's mask. Link to comment
Crim November 26, 2015 Share November 26, 2015 I hope not. The mask would not make Ward have the same height and body as Coulson. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, but still I'd rather it wouldn't come to that. Link to comment
paigow November 27, 2015 Share November 27, 2015 The mask would not make Ward have the same height and body as Coulson... Only Ethan Hunt has a mask that morphs his body from extremes of Jon Voight to Philip Seymour Hoffman 3 Link to comment
tv echo November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 ‘Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ 3×09: 5 hints for ‘Closure’12:00 pm, November 29, 2015http://www.hypable.com/agents-of-shield-3x09-closure-hints/ Link to comment
Fogh November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 (edited) The promotional photos for 3x09 have been released: http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/agents-of-shield-episode-309-closure_30.html Edited November 30, 2015 by Fogh Link to comment
paigow November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 The promotional photos for 3x09 have been released: Hunter kicked out of SHIELD? Goes shopping for engagement ring? Link to comment
Ariah December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Sneak peak 2:http://www.zimbio.com/TV+Preview/articles/WcgrDXM-S7z/Exclusive+Agents+H+E+L+Sneak+Peek+FitzSimmons Link to comment
AimingforYoko December 2, 2015 Share December 2, 2015 Interesting that Fitz absolutely wants to get Will and Jemma's willing to let him go. Is it because he doesn't want to be a 'consolation prize'? Link to comment
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