AimingforYoko October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 A from AV Club. I haven't seen this unanimity of opinion about a TV show since Work It. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1595162
shapeshifter October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 (edited) I haven't seen this unanimity of opinion about a TV show since Work It.It was good, but not (IMO) stupendous or anything. As with True Detective, I don't think they replicated the chemistry of the two first season leads. I'm wondering if all the media love is at least in part a little continued backlash to TD's disappointment--a hope that Fargo will still have the magic that TD lost. But I wonder if this emperor has enough clothes to survive a Minnesotan winter.ETA: Too bad they already killed off Kieran Culkin. He seemed to have Lester potential. Edited October 13, 2015 by shapeshifter 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1596943
Irlandesa October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 It was good, but not (IMO) stupendous or anything. As with True Detective, I don't think they replicated the chemistry of the two first season leads. I'm wondering if all the media love is at least in part a little continued backlash to TD's disappointment--a hope that Fargo will still have the magic that TD lost. Well, I liked the premiere more than you did but one thing that should be remembered about media reviews is that they're likely basing their review on the batch of episodes they've received from FX. Their reviews of the season are therefore based on four episodes, not just the premiere episode. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1597019
JudyObscure October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 [rant]I set my DVR to record it last night and this morning all that there was 2 minutes of commercials. I know there are various ways I can watch online if I register for things I don't already have or I can watch at the site by giving them a lot of information about my Time Warner Cable account which I don't have because my bill is paid by direct debit and I never see it. I really don't want to do any of those things, anyway. I want to watch it on my TV right now, from my recliner, on the CD I thought I made. I am furious. I pay a lot of money to get TV and actually watch very little of it because 90% is terrible. Something good comes along and they're going to make me jump through hoops to watch. FUFX.[/rant] 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1597519
cpcathy October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 Do you have On Demand on your cable? I find it's a good last resort, you just can't fast forward through commercials or any scenes at all. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1597785
JudyObscure October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 Thanks Cpcathy, no I don't have anything like that. It's just a matter of principle to me not to pay for any frills when I think I've already paid for more than my cable is worth, but I know I'll break down and watch it on the computer once I get all the password information I need from Time Warner. Just a matter of time until I give in. I did write an angry letter to FX for their trash collection. That helped. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1597810
cpcathy October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 Check your Time Warner, I have Time Warner and channel 1 is On Demand, you can scroll through the networks, choose FX, and then go to Fargo. On Demand is always free, unless you pay to watch a film. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1597967
Irlandesa October 13, 2015 Share October 13, 2015 According to my DVR, FX is reairing the first episode of the second season early Friday morning. (1 a.m.-2:15 a.m. Central time) So those who missed it may want to set their DVRs again and hopefully catch it this time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1599602
ElectricBoogaloo October 14, 2015 Share October 14, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Yuc94Ilbc 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1600822
Lonesome Rhodes October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 (edited) The link is to a fascinating (to me) critique of the art direction and costuming, and how these help convey the story and themes of the show. http://tomandlorenzo.com/2015/10/fargo-before-the-law/ http://tomandlorenzo.com/2015/10/fargo-waiting-for-dutch/ Edited October 24, 2015 by Lonesome Rhodes 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1635608
BaseOps October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 Early preview of the next episode, "The Myth of Sisyphus" http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/10/fargo-chapter-3-myth-of-sisyphus.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1638590
jjjmoss October 26, 2015 Share October 26, 2015 Despite all the bad press, True Detective still increased in ratings from S1. I mean, some people claimed to "hate-watch" it, but a viewer counts as a viewer regardless. While despite the glowing critical reception, Fargo was down 40% with ep 1 vs. last year's ep 1, and down 58% with ep 2. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1642422
Dev F October 26, 2015 Share October 26, 2015 (edited) Fortunately, FX is probably the major cable network that's most forgiving of mediocre ratings. They rely heavily on the "Live+" numbers, which factor in viewers who catch the show on streaming services over the days immediately following the initial airing. And they've mentioned that they essentially weigh rating equally with two other factors: their own feelings about a series and its critical acclaim. That's presumably what has kept the brilliant The Americans on the air despite persistently not-great Nielsen numbers. So I doubt Fargo's early live ratings are much of a worry at this point. Edited October 26, 2015 by Dev F 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1642489
Irlandesa October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 So I doubt Fargo's early live ratings are much of a worry at this point. Fargo is also airing at a different time of year. This is the busy, new-TV fall season. Last year, it aired from April into summer when there's less competition. It doesn't explain away everything but May sweeps was about the only time period where the first season faced all new, all the time episodes. It also had a higher profile star in Billy Bob Thorton. The biggest thing I'd worry about is that it is an anthology series. Unlike the Americans, which is a continuing story and deserves some sort of ending, every season finale of Fargo also serves as a series finale without any loose strings. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1644230
editorgrrl November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 (edited) "Noah Hawley on ‘Fargo,’ Comic Haircuts and Living in the Coen Universe" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/03/arts/television/noah-hawley-on-fargo-comic-haircuts-and-living-in-the-coen-universe.html Q. What is your approach to incorporating explicit Coen references? A. Some of the homages are built into character dynamics. For example certainly with Karl (Nick Offerman) and Sonny (Dan Beirne) there’s an echo of “Lebowksi,” with John Goodman and Steve Buscemi. It’s not explicit but it’s familiar and comforting to an audience on some level.… Then there are little pieces here and there—Mike Zoss Pharmacy, or some other smaller Easter eggs for the hard-core fans to find. I never want it to feel heavy-handed or cute. I do sort of agonize over them because I never want to feel like I’m overdoing them, or being too precious about it, or drafting off work I haven’t earned. Q. When are we going to understand the alien stuff in the show? A. There are reasons that stuff is in there that tie into both the time period, the sort of American paranoia of the late ’70s, and into the Coen world. That concept you see in a lot of their movies: Accept the mystery. Also: Because it’s funny. Edited November 3, 2015 by editorgrrl 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1670484
Inquisitionist November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Apparently, Brad Garrett sucks at running. The director told Garrett he was waving his arms in the air while galloping. "They said, 'You know, we're filming. Don't save it.' I said, 'Save it? I can't feel my left arm.'" So "Fargo" execs hired a stuntman who usually gets thrown through windows or hangs off of helicopters, to run from one tree to another as a fitter Brad Garrett. The stuntman thanked Garrett. "He goes, 'I gotta tell you man, I've done a lot of stunt work in my day — never been hired to run,'" he says. "'I can't thank you enough, this is like a vacation to me.'" 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1673413
Happytobehere November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 Thanks Cpcathy, no I don't have anything like that. It's just a matter of principle to me not to pay for any frills when I think I've already paid for more than my cable is worth, but I know I'll break down and watch it on the computer once I get all the password information I need from Time Warner. Just a matter of time until I give in. I did write an angry letter to FX for their trash collection. That helped. If you have cabLe, you likely have On Demand. It's a free service that comes with most cable packages. You just have to find the channel your provider carries it on. It really is a life saver when you miss something, the DVR goes crazy, or your trying out a new show. This is how I'm watching based on a recommendation. I'm liking it, so I'll start DVRing. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1686129
leighdear November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I just read an interview with Jean Smart in "Entertainment Weekly" where she said when she first saw her hair & makeup for Floyd, she burst into tears. Then she realized that she didn't have to worry about looking beautiful, her clothes or getting the right angles. She could just concentrate on her acting. I've loved Jean since her "Designing Women" days and I'm glad she's got a new role as good as the one she had in "24". Funny how her character on "24", Martha Logan was involved with Secret Service agent Aaron Pierce, played by Glen Moreshower. Aka, Chad Clarke. Dad of Landry Clarke, played by Jesse Plemmons, aka Ed Blomquist. Now to me, a brilliant move would to have Glen come on as Ed's father, dontcha know! *LOL* 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1698443
BaseOps November 19, 2015 Share November 19, 2015 (edited) I was lucky enough to speak with Jean Smart today for SpoilerTV; she confirmed that Hawley is currently planning S3. http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/11/fargo-noah-hawley-planning-3rd-season.html Edited November 19, 2015 by BaseOps 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1728552
giovannif7 November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 FX has given the green light to Season 3 of Fargo! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1741253
teddysmom November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 FX has given the green light to Season 3 of Fargo! Okay then! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1741470
Fisher King November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 Fantastic news! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1741535
AimingforYoko November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 Fantastic news! You betcha! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1741622
Rhetorica November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 Cool! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1741752
Eyes High November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Great article over at Salon.com about the music of Fargo. The music supervisor, Maggie Phillips, promises three "big" covers of 1970s songs by modern artists. Episode 9 also ends with Phillips' "favourite cover" of the season. Phillips also promises that in the last few episodes, they use two "huge" songs from the 1970s, which would be the most recognizable songs used in the season. One of these is a song that "blew their budget." Anyone want to guess? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1742685
Bort November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Something by The Rolling Stones? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1742850
shapeshifter November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) I was happy to hear "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)," which sort of parallels linguistically the episode title, "Did You Do This? No, You Did It!" Someone on the episode thread mentioned that it was "just" a cover. I wonder what the cost was. Edited November 24, 2015 by shapeshifter Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1744535
Eyes High November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) Something by The Rolling Stones?Could be. When I think of hideously expensive songs, my first thought is the Beatles, but I'm guessing the Rolling Stones would not be cheap, either.What about "When the Levee Breaks" by Led Zeppelin? It was used in Argo, a film set in 1979. Edited November 24, 2015 by Eyes High Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1744598
shapeshifter November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Could be. When I think of hideously expensive songs, my first thought is the Beatles, but I'm guessing the Rolling Stones would not be cheap, either. What about "When the Levee Breaks" by Led Zeppelin? It was used in Argo, a film set in 1979. Or "Stairway to Heaven"? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1747211
Eyes High November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Or "Stairway to Heaven"? Yes! Perfect! Especially with the UFO theme. The important thing to keep in mind is that even though the show is set in 1979, most of the songs are from several years earlier: "Oh Well" (1969), "Kansas City" (1964), "Reunion" (1968), "Locomotive Breath" (1971), "Song of the Soul" (1975), "I Love You" (1965), "Just Dropped In" (1968), "Yama Yama" (1971), etc. There is some 1978 and 1979 music ("Children of the Sun," "Too Much Paranoias," e.g.), but it's very rare. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1747238
shapeshifter November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Yes! Perfect! Especially with the UFO theme.Oh, right! I hadn't even thought of that. I was imagine hearing "and she's cli-i-mbing--the stairway--to heaven" as we see the death of either Simone, Floyd, Peggy, or Betsy--with the meaning of "heaven" and even "climbing" depending upon who "she" was. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1747419
Bort November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Yes! Perfect! Especially with the UFO theme. The important thing to keep in mind is that even though the show is set in 1979, most of the songs are from several years earlier: "Oh Well" (1969), "Kansas City" (1964), "Reunion" (1968), "Locomotive Breath" (1971), "Song of the Soul" (1975), "I Love You" (1965), "Just Dropped In" (1968), "Yama Yama" (1971), etc. There is some 1978 and 1979 music ("Children of the Sun," "Too Much Paranoias," e.g.), but it's very rare. In which case, I think Rolling Stones's "Gimme Shelter" (1969) would be a perfect match to this show's theme. ("War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away...") 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1747460
Eyes High November 26, 2015 Share November 26, 2015 (edited) Post-2x07 interview with Rachel Keller (Simone) over at the Hollywood Reporter, and it's a must-read. Warning: this appears to clear up the question of whether or not Simone did die. Keller seems like a lovely young woman, gracious and effusive in her praise of her costars. She had this in particular to say about shooting the fateful scene in question and about Angus Sampson (Bear), which I thought was just darling: In-between takes, I'm not kidding, [Angus] would like hold me. I was a mess and in his great, gruff, Australian accent, he was like, "You've gotta save it, girl!" Awwwww. Edited November 26, 2015 by Eyes High 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1750792
Bort December 4, 2015 Share December 4, 2015 Short piece with the showrunner about his season 3 plans. Time period is "a couple years after season 1." 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1773317
Eyes High December 7, 2015 Share December 7, 2015 (edited) Ted Danson just did a great interview with AV Club in their "Random Roles" series (where they ask actors about certain roles off their IMDBs). It's a great read. There is a fantastic post-2x09 interview with Zahn McClarnon (Hanzee) over at the Wall Street Journal. It's a must-read. He confirms that "Hanzee" means "shadow" in Lakota Sioux. Also, the interviewer asks this question, which I was very glad of: Do you have any conflicted feelings about Hanzee? He’s a vivid character, but some aspects of him could be perceived as stereotypical: the stoic, stealthy Indian who is almost a supernatural force in the world. Yes. Yes! Great question. McClarnon gives a good answer, too. Edited December 8, 2015 by Eyes High 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1780728
hendersonrocks December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 There is a fantastic post-2x09 interview with Zahn McClarnon (Hanzee) over at the Wall Street Journal. It's a must-read. It really is. Props to the interviewer for asking really good questions, which set up McClarnon to knock it out of the damn park. I'm a fan. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1785156
Ronin Jackson December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Noah Hawley talks UFO. And the link about season 3... Wow.. somehow all this time I didn't realize that Lou is Molly from season 1's father (who was played by David Carradine in Season 1...) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1787231
Inquisitionist December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 somehow all this time I didn't realize that Lou is Molly from season 1's father (who was played by David Carradine in Season 1...) Keith Carradine. His older half-brother David died 6 years ago. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1788275
ElectricBoogaloo December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 (edited) 2016 Golden Globe nominations: Best TV Movie or Limited-Series Best Performance By an Actress in a Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television - Kirsten Dunst Edited December 10, 2015 by ElectricBoogaloo 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1791803
cpcathy December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 The SAG noms were yesterday, did they miss out on the eligibility date, I'm wondering? Will the cast be nominated next year then? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1791966
A Boston Gal December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 There is a fantastic post-2x09 interview with Zahn McClarnon (Hanzee) over at the Wall Street Journal. It's a must-read. He confirms that "Hanzee" means "shadow" in Lakota Sioux. Also, the interviewer asks this question, which I was very glad of: . Great interview; my only disapointment was there wasn't a photo of Zahn McClarnon as himself. I'd be interested in seeing what he looks like non-Hanzee'd. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1791981
Inquisitionist December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 Patrick Wilson also received a GG nomination. Great interview; my only disapointment was there wasn't a photo of Zahn McClarnon as himself. I'd be interested in seeing what he looks like non-Hanzee'd. Images of Zahn McClarnon. :-) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1791984
Eyes High December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 (edited) I'm glad Patrick Wilson and Dunst got recognized. Wilson did such beautiful, subtle work and held his own against a wide array of scene stealers. Too bad there were no supporting actor/actress noms for Fargo, though. The Golden Globes lump everyone in the same supporting actor category, though: there's no distinction between supporting actor in a comedy/supporting actor in a miniseries/supporting actor in a drama. Hopefully, they'll fare better at the Emmys. Nice to see Wilson getting some awards love. The last and only other time Wilson was nominated for a Golden Globe was as Joe in Angels in America, more than 10 years ago. He was excellent. Go watch it. If you're on the Fargo boards, you must like good TV, and it doesn't get much better than Angels in America. Edited December 10, 2015 by Eyes High 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1792036
ElectricBoogaloo December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 Whoops! I rechecked the list of nominations and for some reason the original source I looked at was missing that entire category! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1792052
tennisgurl December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 Will certainly be rooting for this show on Golden Globes night! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1792313
Rhetorica December 10, 2015 Share December 10, 2015 Great news! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1792821
thuganomics85 December 12, 2015 Share December 12, 2015 Interesting article from EW, where one of the reporters had followed Noah Hawley during a couple of days in production of season two. Cool to see all the aspects that have to be dealt with, from the actors, deciding what needs to be cut from the screenplay, to even picking the right size of a chicken a character (Bear) is eating in a scene. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1797668
AuntiePam December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Those are some great articles and interviews. I especially liked what Jean Smart said about playing a role where she didn't have to think about how she looked or what she was wearing, that she could just act -- like the men do. A friend stopped watching early on, complaining that it was too unrealistic, all those bodies piling up and the FBI or National Guard not flocking to the area. Who needs realism, when a show is this well-written? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1798674
A Boston Gal December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 (edited) An appreciation of Fargo from The Boston Globe.... http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/television/2015/12/12/fargo-maybe-best-show-television-and-bloodies/lSNkbHS0Wq17vJDTpCsaxN/story.html Edited December 14, 2015 by A Boston Gal 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1801451
thuganomics85 December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 The show got eight Critic Choice Award nominations, including almost taking over the supporting actor in a miniseries category, with Jesse Plemons, Nick Offerman, and Bookeem Woodbine. Glad for the love, although I would have considered Jesse to be a co-lead with Kirsten Dunst and Patrick Wilson, but I guess I can't be too picky. Finally, cool interview with Kirsten Dunst. I really do hope this season leads to get getting more stuff, because she really was amazing in this, and I think it really might have been her best work yet. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1633-fargo-in-the-media/page/2/#findComment-1802622
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