supposebly April 3, 2015 Share April 3, 2015 Supernatural is the only show left that I watch more or less around the time it airs. Other than that, I haven't seen a lot of TV commercials in the last 5 years. Frankly, I prefer watching two or three episodes in a row. Even with the shows I love, I don't have a problem watching much later. My beloved Justified is a prime example. I've started catching up with this last season and I am on episode 3. I hoped I would catch up by season's end to join the conversation but the weather was way too good to spend at home on the couch to get there. After Supernatural ends, it will only be itunes and Netflix for me. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-997968
Wynne88 April 3, 2015 Share April 3, 2015 I think it's a combination of things, with a lot of the blame going to the scheduling. After the December 9th episode, there wasn't another one until January 20th. We had that episode (#10) followed by 4 more, then ANOTHER month long break AND a switch to Wednesday night. Of the 3 episodes shown after that break (The Things They Carried, Paint it Black, and Inside Man), only the last one got particularly great reviews. And now we're taking another week off. I've been watching since the beginning, and I can barely keep track of whether this is an 'on' week or an 'off' one. Add to the scheduling impact the fact that so many of the recent episodes have been (not very good) filler (and therefore skip-able without messing with your understanding of the story arc), and it's maybe not surprising that so many aren't bothering to watch. I'm hoping that the good reviews of Inside Man will encourage people to watch it on DVD or YouTube or whatever, and maybe get interested again. The break next week does not help, however. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-998082
catrox14 April 3, 2015 Share April 3, 2015 I don't understand why there is even another break. The only thing I can fathom is that it's network mandated because Arrow, The Flash and SPN are all on a week hiatus. My theory is that The Flash and Arrow have another crossover so they are trying to sync the timing but why SPN is in the middle of this makes no sense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-998161
Wynne88 April 3, 2015 Share April 3, 2015 You can get away with breaks if you have people sitting on the edges of their seats. Supernatural doesn't, at least not this year. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-998170
rue721 April 3, 2015 Share April 3, 2015 (edited) It's weird that this coming week is the break, because this week is Spring Break. I think Spring Break/Holy Week might be messing with the numbers a little, just because people are probably traveling. But everyone will be back next week, so why are they taking that week off? Also, I hate all these breaks in general. I'm with Wynne88, I can never keep up with when the show is on or not. Supernatural is the only show left that I watch more or less around the time it airs. Other than that, I haven't seen a lot of TV commercials in the last 5 years. I don't have cable*** so it's difficult for me to watch stuff in real time. But shows that have a big fan following, like SPN, I try to watch live anyway, because a big part of the fun of watching shows like that is being able to follow the internet chatter and live tweeting, and all that other internet-based, fast-moving "fan stuff" that's associated with the show, and it's easiest and most fun to follow all that if you're watching live. Shows that I like a lot but that don't get a lot of chatter online or don't have a "fandom," I just watch whenever it's convenient, and basically never watch live. But I actually think that how fans interact on the internet encourages more live viewing now. "Now" relative to the "then" of the post-DVR (or even post-VCR!) but pre-smart phone and pre-Twitter era :P. ***And have never bought it. It's so expensive! Way too expensive for me to justify the cost. Once cable companies started putting filters in the box so that you couldn't use a splitter and get basic cable that way, I've just streamed everything. Edited April 3, 2015 by rue721 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-999285
AwesomO4000 April 4, 2015 Share April 4, 2015 (edited) Once cable companies started putting filters in the box so that you couldn't use a splitter and get basic cable that way, I've just streamed everything I use a splitter with my cable, but for a weird thing, and I have to have an extra unscrambler box thing for it - it's a pain, because those little boxes add up. It started out that we got 3 for free, and only had to pay for the other 2 ($1.99 ea - my mom insists she has to have 2 TVs in her area)... then we had to pay for all 5, and in June the price of them goes up. Cable companies are such awful things. Anyway I digress... here's what I use the splitter for... When we had our old TV, it had a cable card *, so the splitter wasn't necessary for the VCR (and yes, I still have and use a VCR), but with our new TV, the splitter is used so that one side goes to the cable box and the other to the little unscrambler thing for the VCR. So I can watch one show or a DVD and tape something else. Which is good, because weirdly some of the things I watch and tape aren't available on demand. Also On Demand doesn't keep all the episodes, so if for example I want to watch "Fanfiction" I pull out my VCR tape and do so. Once I get the DVD, I'll reuse the tapes for the next season. And you're right: cable is way too expensive... at least now. Twelve years ago we had Cox Cable. No unscrambler boxes needed and plenty of channels for like $35 a month. Then they got taken over by Comcast. More total channels, but less I watch (they took away some I watched and put them in a premium tier), and they nickle and dime you to death for even the basics (like unscrambler boxes). We pay almost 3 times as much for cable now for pretty much the same thing (except now we get On Demand - woopty doo) We were considered as a Neilsen family, but we ended up not being chosen. Guess we weren't a desirable demographic. * (Wonderful, wonderful things because you don't have to pay a monthly fee to unscramble the cable signal like with a box, even for HD stuff - which of course they got rid of cable cards on newer televisions, supposedly because they didn't work well. Which was bullcrap, because we had one problem in 10 years with ours, and it was fixed with a phone call in 10 minutes via a new signal. Our cable boxes on the other hand...) Edited April 4, 2015 by AwesomO4000 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-999859
catrox14 April 17, 2015 Share April 17, 2015 (edited) Man. WTH. The ratings are making me sad. I mean I understand we have another season...but I still don't like this drop. CW Supernatural 0.6/2 1.76 from TV By the Numbers.... but Showbuzz Daily has it at 0.6 for 18-24 Adults, 0.7 for 18-49 adults and 0.8 for 25-54 Adults. Wonder why it's different? Edited April 17, 2015 by catrox14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1045597
catrox14 April 17, 2015 Share April 17, 2015 (edited) Supernatural was #2 in the Nielsen Social Media ratings :). This makes me feel better Supernatural Wiki @SuperWiki 2m2 minutes ago ICYMI: #Supernatural was #2 in the Nielsen Social Media ratings last night! http://www.nielsensocial.com/nielsentwittertvratings/daily Edited April 17, 2015 by catrox14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1046191
Rina99 April 18, 2015 Share April 18, 2015 CW Supernatural 0.6/2 1.76 from TV By the Numbers.... butShowbuzz Daily has it at 0.6 for 18-24 Adults, 0.7 for 18-49 adults and 0.8 for 25-54 Adults. Wonder why it's different? Rounding. The 18-49 demo (the one that counts) was actually a .65. It appears Showbuzz Daily went ahead and rounded up, and tvbythenumbers did not. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1049319
catrox14 April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 Ratings for Werther Project. Up over last week. CW Supernatural 0.7 2 1.63 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1071636
catrox14 April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Hey, I heard on a podcast that SPN was picked up for syndication by USA. Anyone else hear about this? I googled and couldn't find it referenced. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1083182
SueB April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Hey, I heard on a podcast that SPN was picked up for syndication by USA. Anyone else hear about this? I googled and couldn't find it referenced. You mean the USA network? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1083424
catrox14 April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Yes USA network. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1083449
DittyDotDot April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 (edited) I hadn't heard that, but Kripke is working on developing a comic book to series by USA. ETA: Link or it didn't happen, right? http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/eric-kripke-developing-superhero-comic-amped-for-vertigo-and-tv-adaptation-for-usa-exclusive-1201467465/ Edited April 27, 2015 by DittyDotDot 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1083477
Iguana April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 Does anyone know if this season is 22 or 23 episodes? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1091977
catrox14 April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 It's 23 :) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1092004
Iguana April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1093824
catrox14 April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 (edited) "Angel Heart " fast overnight zap2it CW Supernatural 0.7/2 1.85 Showbuzz daily has us at. O.8 Edited April 30, 2015 by catrox14 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1095049
Pete Martell April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 DVR ratings for Paint It Black: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/04/13/modern-family-leads-adults-18-49-gains-forever-tops-percentage-increases-the-blacklist-wins-viewership-growth-in-live-7-ratings-for-week-27-ending-march-29/388237/ And for Inside Man: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/04/20/the-big-bang-theory-leads-adults-18-49-gains-the-blacklist-tops-percentage-viewership-growth-in-live-7-ratings-for-week-28-ending-april-5/392054/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1095435
catrox14 April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 Holy crap. Did they really double the DVR ratings for Paint It Black? WOW Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1095530
catrox14 May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 CW Supernatural 0.8/2 2.14 Nice increase! Hope it holds. I wonder if we can pull a 1.0 for the finale. I haven't seen the Twitter ratings yet. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146034
Altered Reality May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 CW Supernatural 0.8/2 2.14 Nice increase! Hope it holds. I wonder if we can pull a 1.0 for the finale. I haven't seen the Twitter ratings yet. Wonder what happens when it's adjusted. The Chicago market was blacked out (baseball I believe) so that may have an impact. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146051
catrox14 May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 It might get adjust down to a 0.7. I can't imagine it being lower. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146170
Altered Reality May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 Might be late to the party with this, but looks like some areas will get a repeat of "The Prisoner" before the finale next week. It'll run in the Arrow time slot. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146301
catrox14 May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 Yeah I think that will be in all the markets. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146305
Altered Reality May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 Makes sense, but I can only confirm NY, Chicago and L.A. (those are the feeds I get~I was looking to see when this episode would air in the Chicago market). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146320
catrox14 May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 (edited) Twitter ratings are in. We (like I had anything to do with it other than mad tweeting) are in the top 5 again sitting at #4 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE_MTxgW0AAyLb3.png Edited May 14, 2015 by catrox14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1146775
FlickChick May 15, 2015 Share May 15, 2015 Chicago market is airing "The Prisoner" on this Sunday, May 17 at its regular time and repeating it in Arrow's slot on Wednesday. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1150148
catrox14 May 15, 2015 Share May 15, 2015 Looks like it was adjusted down to 0.7 . Still better than the last couple of weeks. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1150390
catrox14 May 22, 2015 Share May 22, 2015 Supernatural 0.7 2 1.7 Twitter ratings 4th per usual Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1173255
Altered Reality May 27, 2015 Share May 27, 2015 Probably redundant, but CW is re-airing Season 10 (usual time) starting with Black tonight. Good news for me as I haven't seen the first 6 or so episodes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1189080
catrox14 May 27, 2015 Share May 27, 2015 Yeah! Takes the edge off Hellatus Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1189589
catrox14 May 30, 2015 Share May 30, 2015 WOW! The finale gained 62% on the Live +3 viewing in 18-49 demo. Went from 0.7 to 1.2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1196150
Demented Daisy May 30, 2015 Share May 30, 2015 Makes sense. Lots of college students didn't have time to watch live because they were taking finals. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1196517
DittyDotDot May 30, 2015 Share May 30, 2015 That's pretty much been the trend over the last couple seasons--there seems to be a slump in the ratings starting around episode 15 or 16 and it seems they bounce back for the finale. I think S9 had pretty similar ratings and I think the finale also ended at around 1.2, if I recall properly. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1196526
ahrtee August 4, 2015 Share August 4, 2015 Did I miss something? There's some idiotic reality show on instead of Supernatural for the whole month of August? (That's as far as my TV listings go...) I didn't see any warnings or hints anywhere, and the only information I can find online is that the CW ordered eps of the new show for the summer back in February, with schedule to be determined later. But EVERY DAMN WEDNESDAY? (I know season 10 wasn't my favorite, but I'm about to go into withdrawal, so pardon my hyperventilation...) How did I miss this? Or is it only in Colorado? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1386505
catrox14 August 4, 2015 Share August 4, 2015 Wow, I just checked my listings and they show America's Next Top Model and some other show for tomorrow. That fucking SUUCCCKS. But The Flash and iZombie remain on Tuesdays. Thanks CW for putting the two shows I make time to watch on the same night and then remove them from the schedule. Awesome. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1386810
FlickChick August 5, 2015 Share August 5, 2015 The CW has been doing this to Supernatural since its beginning. Red-headed stepchild you know. I'm surprised they're taking Arrow repeats off, however. Maybe it's becoming like our show now - a steady fan base, so no need to worry about when/where they schedule it, or take it off altogether for awhile. Its fans will come back in the Fall. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1389795
catrox14 August 5, 2015 Share August 5, 2015 Maybe. They've never moved Arrow in all it's 3 years on the schedule. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1389981
ahrtee August 6, 2015 Share August 6, 2015 Well, I've been watching Supernatural since season 4, so I can't say what went on before that. But I never remember them taking the show off entirely for the summer...a week or two here or there, when there's something special like the Olympics or an award show, but not *replaced*. Or am I wrong? I assume they're trying to tap the built-in audience for the new show, but it's not like they're comparable in any way, shape or form, and, if that's the case, judging from the description (no, I don't intend to turn it on even out of curiosity) it seems like they have a *very* low opinion of the SPN fanbase. My question(s) (in case anyone knows): was this announced anywhere? Did they say how many eps the new show will be? I know Supernatural starts with new episodes in October, but will reruns return in September some time so we can catch up/remind ourselves of the end of season 10? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1390347
SueB August 6, 2015 Share August 6, 2015 I think it'll rerun in Sept. They definitely have 23 eps again this year because the remark on the first day was day 1 of 184 (filming days). That's 23 episodes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1390350
FlickChick August 6, 2015 Share August 6, 2015 If I'm not mistaken, the seasons it was on Fridays, they replaced it with "Whose Line.." and other programs during a large chunk of the summer reruns. In other summer seasons, it was replaced by "specials", the "I *heart* Radio", et al. No matter which night the show was on, that was the night that the replacements were made in our time slot. I'm not saying it was off all summer, but if this is starting now, that wouldn't be all summer either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1392982
ahrtee August 7, 2015 Share August 7, 2015 OK, I was thinking of multiple weeks in a row with no warning, rather than just once in a while for a special, but point taken, and thanks to SueB and FlickChick for reminding me that yes, SPN is expendable in the eyes of the network but at least they keep renewing it. I was just having a bad couple of days and lost my temper with the CW. *sigh* 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1394206
SueB August 7, 2015 Share August 7, 2015 OK, I was thinking of multiple weeks in a row with no warning, rather than just once in a while for a special, but point taken, and thanks to SueB and FlickChick for reminding me that yes, SPN is expendable in the eyes of the network but at least they keep renewing it. I was just having a bad couple of days and lost my temper with the CW. *sigh* I think "lost my temper at the CW" is kinda a permanent condition for many. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1394762
FlickChick August 7, 2015 Share August 7, 2015 I think "lost my temper at the CW" is kinda a permanent condition for many. You got that right!!!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1396074
paulvdb August 10, 2015 Share August 10, 2015 It looks like the CW has more summer series than usual this year. I checked last week's schedule and only the Tuesday series (Flash and iZombie) had repeats last week. All other days had series that don't air during the fall-spring season. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1401232
catrox14 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 Hmm. Looks like SPN lowered their ad rates by $5000 per 30 second spot. http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/09/201516-tv-shows-advertisement-costs.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1547389
SueB September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 (edited) Interesting: 1) Pulling in more than iZombie 2) I think this is a direct result of the date change 3) If they lose return viewer in the fall (primarily due to killing off Charlie IMO), well Carver earned that BTW, thanks for the link. Edited September 28, 2015 by SueB Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1548010
catrox14 October 8, 2015 Share October 8, 2015 Overnights are in 0.9 in 18-49. Decent. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Demo-Profile-2015-WED.07-Oct.png 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1582013
FlickChick October 8, 2015 Share October 8, 2015 The Chicago market had Cubs "win or go home" playoff baseball game on competing channel. Also there was the Blackhawks raising the Stanley Cup Banner and game on a competing channel. I'll be curious about the DVR increases when they come out. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/4/#findComment-1582222
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