Morrigan2575 November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 It's never run new episodes at 8PM. I think they may have run SPN in rerun at 8PM and 9PM one summer when they moved nights. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2755069
Diane November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 I don't mind, I watch it on a little bit of a delay so that I don't have to watch the commercials. So I like the earlier time. I can't see it changing the content. The Vampire Diaries, has been more violent in the earlier time slot. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2755158
ahrtee November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Diane said: I don't mind, I watch it on a little bit of a delay so that I don't have to watch the commercials. So I like the earlier time. I can't see it changing the content. The Vampire Diaries, has been more violent in the earlier time slot. Plus all the TNT reruns are during the day, and apparently no one has complained so far. Do daytime shows have different rules? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2755494
Diane November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, ahrtee said: Plus all the TNT reruns are during the day, and apparently no one has complained so far. Do daytime shows have different rules? That's a good question, back in the day when I watched soap opera's they seemed to really push the boundaries as far as sex scenes. So I don't really know. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2755528
SueB November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 "Supernatural": a show harder to kill than the Winchester Brothers. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2755782
catrox14 November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 4 hours ago, ahrtee said: Plus all the TNT reruns are during the day, and apparently no one has complained so far. Do daytime shows have different rules? TNT is a basic cable network and aren't held to the same standards as broadcast networks. I think in general daytime TV is not held to the same standards as Prime Time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2756498
Jediknight November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 3:50 PM, catrox14 said: The pairing with Riverdale is odd if Riverdale is just a teen soap like Dawson's Creek, but it sounds like it might be little mysterious. Especially if they bring in any semblance of Archie's Weird Mysteries, then it would make perfect sense to pair it with Supernatural. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2756670
Bessie November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, catrox14 said: TNT is a basic cable network and aren't held to the same standards as broadcast networks. I think in general daytime TV is not held to the same standards as Prime Time. The rules are stuck in the seventies! It's kinda funny. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2756710
catrox14 November 17, 2016 Share November 17, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bessie said: The rules are stuck in the seventies! It's kinda funny. I think they let a lot go now in the 8PM time slot than before but I'm really not convinced the stigmata graphic imagery and self-flagellation nor the woman hanging upside down in her underwear and having her throat slit would have made into the 8PM hour. If it did, I think the networks would have had a lot of complaints. Edited November 17, 2016 by catrox14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2756730
Diane November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, catrox14 said: I think they let a lot go now in the 8PM time slot than before but I'm really not convinced the stigmata graphic imagery and self-flagellation nor the woman hanging upside down in her underwear and having her throat slit would have made into the 8PM hour. If it did, I think the networks would have had a lot of complaints. I still think it will be fine, again the Vampire Diaries has been at 7 central and has never had a problem. It can be very graphic. I am not worried. Edited November 18, 2016 by Diane Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2756924
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, Jediknight said: Especially if they bring in any semblance of Archie's Weird Mysteries, then it would make perfect sense to pair it with Supernatural. I think they may go that way. Incidentally, CBS is developing a Doctor Mirage (comic about a woman who can see spirits) show for the CW next year. If it gets picked up, that would be a great pairing with SPN. Edited November 18, 2016 by Morrigan2575 Corrected name of Comic Book Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2757083
ahrtee November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, catrox14 said: I think they let a lot go now in the 8PM time slot than before but I'm really not convinced the stigmata graphic imagery and self-flagellation nor the woman hanging upside down in her underwear and having her throat slit would have made into the 8PM hour. If it did, I think the networks would have had a lot of complaints. TBH, I could have done without all of that myself and not felt that I was being deprived. I always thought the suggestion of horror is much more effective than gross and graphic effects. But that's just me. ETA: For full disclosure, I never watch horror/slasher/anything particularly gory (I even close my eyes during surgery scenes on doctor shows) so I understand I may be in the minority here. Edited November 18, 2016 by ahrtee 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2757258
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 I'd be really happy if this holds 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2758713
Diane November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-nov-17-2016/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2758808
catrox14 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) Demo breakdowns from Showbuzz Daily. Nice uptick from last week. Curious that it dropped at the half hour mark. Edited November 18, 2016 by catrox14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2758821
DittyDotDot November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, catrox14 said: Nice uptick from last week. Curious that it dropped at the half hour mark. That's about the time I started to lose interest, so maybe not all that curious? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2758864
Aeryn13 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Quote nor the woman hanging upside down in her underwear and having her throat slit would have made into the 8PM hour This Season`s Premiere of Vampire Diaries had a meathook being driven into a person`s back, then have them lifted up and dropped into a basin with a flesh-eating monster before being pulled out with the visible chunks of bone and flesh still on it. All in graphic detail. If this is no problem in the 8 p.m. slot, then I can think of no scene in say Season 12 of SPN so far that would have been a problem. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2758984
catrox14 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, DittyDotDot said: That's about the time I started to lose interest, so maybe not all that curious? I didn't mean curious as in unbelievable, but just curious as to why it dropped. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759036
DittyDotDot November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, catrox14 said: I didn't mean curious as in unbelievable, but just curious as to why it dropped. Right, and my response was in the same vein. It probably dropped due to the episode being less interesting at that point. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759070
catrox14 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 2 hours ago, DittyDotDot said: Right, and my response was in the same vein. It probably dropped due to the episode being less interesting at that point. Ah, okay I misunderstood. Sorry Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759497
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Woohoo. SPN held in the demo 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759733
Pete Martell November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) This seems like shuffling deck chairs. Won't SPN have to be toned down for 8 PM? I know it's not exactly AHS but it's gory at various points. And isn't Riverdale another one of those generic teen dramas with quasi-"atmospheric" overtones? It sounds cookie cutter to me. When I heard it was going to be another Twin Peaks I just shook my head. I'm sure you could call SPN cookie cutter too but it's a very different type of show to the angsty bare-chested 25 year olds playing teenagers. Edited November 18, 2016 by Pete Martell 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759876
bethy November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 26 minutes ago, Pete Martell said: Won't SPN have to be toned down for 8 PM? I don't think they will. As I understand it, the networks have pretty much abandoned the old convention that the 7-8 hour should be more family friendly. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759952
Trini November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, bethy said: I don't think they will. As I understand it, the networks have pretty much abandoned the old convention that the 7-8 hour should be more family friendly. Especially networks that have only 2 hours of primetime (CW, Fox). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2759962
SueB November 19, 2016 Share November 19, 2016 Compared to last year's Thursday night, the CW must be VERY happy. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2760690
Morrigan2575 November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 I'm imagine they are happy, its a great improvement over last year. What's better, is that SPN has a very tiny year to year drop. In fact this 1207 and 1107 were practically tied in ratings. The CW has some concerns, they can't seem to launch a successful new show that isn't a DC/Berlanti show. Unfortunately for them the DC shows sprung a leak this season. All that being said, SPN once again proves to be the "Little Show that Can" 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2763939
catrox14 December 2, 2016 Share December 2, 2016 (edited) Fast national overnight ratings are in. Hope it holds :). 0.7/1.8 Interesting that it dropped at the 1/2 hour mark. Edited December 2, 2016 by catrox14 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2796157
catrox14 December 2, 2016 Share December 2, 2016 (edited) ...and SPN was 2nd in SM Nielsen Twitter ratings Edited December 2, 2016 by catrox14 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2796606
Diane December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/legends-of-tomorrow-adjusts-up-supernatural-great-indoors-baking-show-adjust-down-thursday-final-ratings/ Final broadcast primetime live + same-day ratings for Thursday, Dec. 1, 2016 Several shows had changes to their adults 18-49 ratings from Thursday’s early numbers to the finals, most of them on the negative side. “The Great Indoors” (1.3), “The Great American Baking Show” (1.0) and “Supernatural” (0.6) all adjusted down a tenth of a point from their preliminary numbers. On the plus side, “Legends of Tomorrow” adjusted up a tenth to 1.2 with its leg of The CW’s four-part crossover, tying a series high. “Thursday Night Football” finished with a 6.8, the best for Thursday game (excluding opening night) this season. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2809439
catrox14 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Well, boo :( to that down adjustment :( Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2809443
Diane December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I agree. It will be interesting to see the Live + 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2809449
Aeryn13 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Last week was clearly DC week for the CW, the crossover shows posted great numbers. It`s also not surprising that the non-comic-book-shows airing in the 9 p.m. slots didn`t profit from it. The crossover appealed to one particular target audience. And the SPN ep was somewhat dull so not a good episode for exposure IMO. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2809492
Diane December 9, 2016 Share December 9, 2016 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-dec-8-2016/ Supernatural (The CW) 0.6/2 1.74 “Supernatural” was even at 0.6. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2816021
Pete Martell December 9, 2016 Share December 9, 2016 I realize the actual numbers matter less than buzz, syndication and streaming deals, etc. and flashier, newer shows are going to get more with those than SPN does, but it still sort of shows why they still hang onto SPN when their much-hyped and promoted superhero shows mostly crash back down to levels not that high above SPN after a massive and praised crossover week. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2816724
catrox14 December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 So I noticed that s11 is airing on TNT next week. Looking at the schedule for the next two weeks I see "Baby" is not being aired. They are airing the first 3 and then skip to Thin Lizzie. I couldn't find Baby on the schedule at all. I don't get it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2817668
SueB December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, catrox14 said: So I noticed that s11 is airing on TNT next week. Looking at the schedule for the next two weeks I see "Baby" is not being aired. They are airing the first 3 and then skip to Thin Lizzie. I couldn't find Baby on the schedule at all. I don't get it. Christmas? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2817700
catrox14 December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 41 minutes ago, SueB said: Christmas? 41 minutes ago, SueB said: Christmas? They are airing all of s11 between now and Christmas. 4 episodes a day for 5 days. They aren't even airing Alpha and Omega.before they start over with s1. They are ending with We Happy Few and they seem to be reairing some of the episodes in the middle twice but still no Baby nor Alpha & Omega. So weird. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2817747
DittyDotDot December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 6 hours ago, catrox14 said: They are airing all of s11 between now and Christmas. 4 episodes a day for 5 days. They aren't even airing Alpha and Omega.before they start over with s1. They are ending with We Happy Few and they seem to be reairing some of the episodes in the middle twice but still no Baby nor Alpha & Omega. So weird. It seems like it's been mentioned somewhere around here before, sometimes they screw up the schedule on TNT routinely. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2818083
FlickChick December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 6 hours ago, DittyDotDot said: It seems like it's been mentioned somewhere around here before, sometimes they screw up the schedule on TNT routinely. I agree. We may find that they correct the episodes in the guide or show them in order without correction in the guide. Or they may simply screw it up. :( Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2818770
ahrtee December 10, 2016 Share December 10, 2016 (edited) I think the first time they show a season they skip a few episodes...usually the more popular ones (I seem to remember last year they skipped Fan Fiction and the last ep?) I don't know if it's part of the deal so that more people will pay for the missing eps on Netflix or will buy the DVDs. Usually on later repeats they have all eps. I don't think they've repeated eps in the middle but maybe it's to make it end at a particular date (as placeholders?) Edited December 10, 2016 by ahrtee Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2818863
SueB December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 Supernatural is holding its ratings from last year but in a more difficult slot. And it's really winning over the show that was there last year. It and Jane the Virgin are the only returning shows NOT in double digit negatives. I think this looks good for a S13. http://tvline.com/2016/12/23/ratings-2016-2017-tv-season-winners-losers/#comment-list-wrapper 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852017
Morrigan2575 December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 Never doubted SPN would get another season. At this point the show will end when the J's are ready to quit. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852411
SueB December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said: Never doubted SPN would get another season. At this point the show will end when the J's are ready to quit. I think the only fly in the Chardonnay is what are they going to do with the rest of the CW. They doubled-down on their Superhero lineup. Still at the top but less than the year prior. Jane the Virgin and My Crazy Ex Girlfriend have awards spark but terrible ratings. I don't see how Frequency and No Tomorrow survive. Carver now learns the lesson it wasn't him, it was the boys -- it's ALWAYS been the boys. I hope iZombie performs well in the back end. It's a brilliant show. I thin these ratings actually work in their favor. But yeah, IMO, Supernatural is so reliable, they'll probably keep it on Thursday to help slay the Football dragon. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852547
Morrigan2575 December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 (edited) Frequency and No Tomorrow are gone, they didn't get a back 9 (or less) pick up, they're effectively cancelled at this point, just not officially. CW announced that Reign ends with this season and TVD is in its final season. The Originals may get a short final season pick up or it may get canceled (I'm betting on a half/final season order). Arrow, Flash, LoT, Supergirl and SPN are all safe, IMO. I-Zombie, Riverdale and The 100 are question marks for me. I also fully expect that when the time comes, SPN like Smallville, TVD, Nikita, HoD, etc will get an announced final season, abbreviated or otherwise. Its funny, there were (Dawn O) years when I worried over SPN being Canceled. However, since Pedowitz came on board and rescued SPN from Fridays I haven't worried. Edited December 24, 2016 by Morrigan2575 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852798
catrox14 December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, SueB said: Carver now learns the lesson it wasn't him, it was the boys -- it's ALWAYS been the boys. I don't understand this. When did Carver imply the success of the show wasn't the boys? In the s10 retrospective he said the show is always about the boys core relationship. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852820
SueB December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 (edited) On 12/24/2016 at 3:14 PM, catrox14 said: I don't understand this. When did Carver imply the success of the show wasn't the boys? In the s10 retrospective he said the show is always about the boys core relationship. He didn't. But he left after 3 and barely paid attention during the last half of S11. Kripke also thought the show would end with him (hence killings Ellen and Jo). What I'm saying is that in the case of both of these producers, they thought they could repeat their success with other shows. It didn't happen. The succcess of SPN is more about the boys than the producers. Edited December 26, 2016 by SueB What possessed autocorrect to turn Kripke into Oriole? I ask you. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2852926
sarthaz December 27, 2016 Share December 27, 2016 Not sure where to put this, and apologies if this has been posted before, but look who's among the most popular shows in rural America: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/26/upshot/duck-dynasty-vs-modern-family-television-maps.html 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2856637
Morrigan2575 December 28, 2016 Share December 28, 2016 Huh, that's weird, did not expect that pattern. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2857250
catrox14 December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 SUPERNATURAL comes in at 25. Data reveals the 20 most popular TV shows of 2016 Quote Game of Thrones" was by far the most popular show around the world in 2016, according to a new analysis from Parrot Analytics. "The Walking Dead" came in second, followed by "Pretty Little Liars" and "Westworld." Parrot analyzed not only ratings data (where available) but also peer-to-peer sharing, social media chatter, and other factors to estimate viewer demand for various shows. These combined measurements determine each show's "demand expressions" per day. Though the formula is opaque, the ranking appears to be one of the best ways to compare shows across platforms and measure how popular they really are. What other shows ruled the past year? i Data reveals the 20 most popular TV shows of 2016 http://www.businessinsider.com/most-popular-tv-shows-2016-12?r=UK&IR=T/#2-amcs-the-walking-dead-with-47-million-demand-expressions-per-day-the-shocking-beginning-of-season-7-led-to-an-explosion-in-social-media-interest-2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2865333
Morrigan2575 January 8, 2017 Share January 8, 2017 I also posted this on the media thread not sure which one was the best. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/15567-ratings-and-scheduling-i-cant-do-this-alone/page/12/#findComment-2885960
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