S06.E11: Gators And Haters

[Tara Ariano]

A trip to Florida continues, with friction involving Jim, Bobby and Dina reaching the breaking point. Meanwhile, Teresa explores how to respond to Jacqueline's texts, and Rosie's love life hits obstacles.

[mwell345]

 

Meanwhile, Teresa explores how to respond to Jacqueline's texts

 

LOL - Seriously - this is one of the highlights- Theresa exploring how to respond to texts from Jac? 

 

Will she borrow the Dubrow Dictionary?

 

Will Joe help with the wording?  Will Milania? 

 

How about "Thank you for thinking of us".

[Rhetorica]

Who else got help composing an email? Wasn't is krazy KKB?

[jinjer]

"Tanti baci xoxo Tre."  When you care enough to send the very best.  I think Kathy said it best when she told Jac that Teresa was sending her a message with her response.  

[Lablover27]

LOL - Seriously - this is one of the highlights- Theresa exploring how to respond to texts from Jac? 

 

Will she borrow the Dubrow Dictionary?

 

Will Joe help with the wording?  Will Milania? 

 

How about "Thank you for thinking of us".

Milania "Thank you for thinking of us you ugly troll."   I also laughed so loud at Jac saying "wait there's more" and read yet another crazy text.  She can't stop!

[jinjer]

It would be funny if Teresa goes into a lengthy discussion of why she doesn't want to give too much in the text because Jac is like a stalker/leech who sucks herself into your drama and won't let go and becomes very needy and that Teresa doesn't have time for that.  How everything Teresa ever told Jac ended up in the tabloids.  How Jac has her hands full right now taking care of Nic, and that she Teresa knows that Jac doesn't have time to be bothered with Teresa's own problems.  How Jac and Chris are facing their own bankruptcy investigation and fraud/fleecing the company allegations and that she doesn't want her to have to worry right now about Teresa's problems.  How Jac has a habit of sharing her texts with other people (see Kathy and last episode) and how some even ended up on websites last year and that Teresa was lucky enough to still have had the entire text thread still on her phone to show that Jac wasn't showing everything.

 

Jac is a drama queen who is always mooing about something.  She purportedly cares about Teresa and is losing sleep because she is so worried about Teresa's situation, but really she is only showing the texts to complain that Teresa doesn't give an "adequate" response.  BTW - I thought Kathy looked really pretty in Jac's kitchen, but in her talking head looked like a disaster.

[mwell345]

 

It would be funny if Teresa goes into a lengthy discussion of why she doesn't want to give too much in the text because Jac is like a stalker/leech who sucks herself into your drama and won't let go and becomes very needy and that Teresa doesn't have time for that.  How everything Teresa ever told Jac ended up in the tabloids.  How Jac has her hands full right now taking care of Nic, and that she Teresa knows that Jac doesn't have time to be bothered with Teresa's own problems.  How Jac and Chris are facing their own bankruptcy investigation and fraud/fleecing the company allegations and that she doesn't want her to have to worry right now about Teresa's problems.  How Jac has a habit of sharing her texts with other people (see Kathy and last episode) and how some even ended up on websites last year and that Teresa was lucky enough to still have had the entire text thread still on her phone to show that Jac wasn't showing everything.

 

I would pay to see this....

 

 

Milania "Thank you for thinking of us you ugly troll."

 

...."and if you really want to help, give me pizza!"

[zoeysmom]

I think Jacqueline was lured back onto the show just for the purpose of interacting with Teresa.  It was a major fail for production when Dina declared that she would not ask Teresa any questions and then went the extra mile to impart her policy on Melissa.  Other than the newscasts not one person has said the Giudice are convicted felons except Jacqueline. 

 

I still like Jacqueline-I realize that a lot of people think she betrayed the felon but I think Teresa sold out her cast mates years ago when she started taking money for the tawdry tabloid articles.  Sweet justice after repeatedly denying taking money for tabloid stories, including at the Andy altar in the clubhouse, one of the charges she pled guilty to, specifically included concealing income from magazines.  I thought hmmm someone at the US Attorneys' office has a sense of humor  and watches the show.  I also the Reunion, I think it was Season 4 where Teresa and Juicy claimed Chris met Jac in Vegas  when she worked as a stripper.  Pretty rotten thing to say about someone-especially a friend.  Of course Teresa and her buddies also said it about Melissa.

 

I think all production is trying to do is pull some real emotion out of Teresa coupled with her actually using terms such as if I am incarcerated, when we have to move, when Joe goes to prison.  At this point I think they would even take a cheesy "going away" reference.  Showing her fake downsizing attempt, with all the references to the grandeur of Chateau Juicy, and writing down addresses of houses she likes isn't going to cut it, especially when wrapped in the guise of it all being done because she is a good business woman.  Just once I think they the producers want to hear, "wow, we are 13.5 million dollars in debt, there is no relief for us under the bankruptcy system, we will have to file eleven years of ACCURATE taxes and pay them, we are looking at a million dollars in fines and another million or more in forfeiture."  Not the Fabellini has been delayed in customs.

 

From the sound of things I think the producers were foiled again in their attempts to get anyone to get anything out of Teresa.

Edited September 27, 2014 by zoeysmom

[FlyingEgret]

I have to admit that Melissa's yellow dress looked stunning on her - and compared to the other outfits it also looked conservative - which I'm sure is not what she was going for

[bosawks]

Nice to see Jaq is still up for a good game of "who has suffered most".

Of course we all know it's the viewers.....

[LoveLeigh]

I am not sure who is more annoying.... Nicole or Teresa (her twin). They are both so vacuous and boring.

 

And I don't particularly like JIm, but these morons just don't understand his position of "conflict of interest" in socializing with Joe Guidice. 

[Chicklet]

 

I am not sure who is more annoying.... Nicole or Teresa (her twin). They are both so vacuous and boring.

I can help with that, they are all annoying. Except maybe that tail-less baby alligator.

 

And exactly how is Jim having a conflict of interest? He isn't a prosecutor or an attorney, or much of anything as far as I'm concerned. He just said that little phrase to gin up some conflict. He's just a (shady) business owner who makes really crappy commercials as well as a drama queen of fabulous proportions.

 

Ok shady is just my opinion here, nothing concrete to go on.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Chicklet

[TexasGal]

WTF with Bobby hiding in the bathroom? Weird.

Lord help me, but Joe Gorga for the win - he only fights with men and Jim is not a man.

[bosawks]

All that laughing during the Giudice family dinner didn't come off as "whistling past the graveyard" at all, nope, not at all......

Edited September 29, 2014 by bosawks

[FlyingEgret]

I'm with Dina - the tailless alligator was adorable!

[jinjer]

I think Twin 1 knew exactly what the rumor was when she and Dina were sitting out back in Florida and that was why she didn't want to know.  She even put "my mother, my husband" right after each other in her litany of family members.  In the preview she doesn't even look shocked when Jim blurts it out.  

 

Boy Jim is all sorts of bitchy spilling all of Bobby's secrets.  Such a jilted lover.

[poeticlicensed]

When Joe Gorga sounds like the voice of reason, we are all in trouble

[Rhetorica]

What's with the lecture from Papa Gudice and raising kids right? They all just sat there nodding their heads...

[LotusFlower]

So all of the drama and fighting wasn't even over the Rino/Santa rumor, but instead over....what exactly? Y'know what? I don't even care.

[Box305]

Jim is a fuckstick. 

[Watermelon]

So all of the drama and fighting wasn't even over the Rino/Santa rumor, but instead over....what exactly? Y'know what? I don't even care.

Jim baiting Bobby into an argument and Nicole KNOWING what Jim is doing and going along with it.

 

It was also about Amber being unable to stop her husband from being bitchmade.

[Samwil]

I hate you Jim for making me think Joe Gorga is the voice of reason.  Yes, Jim, you are a bitch.

[Chicklet]

Exactly what is Dim Jim's endgame here? To prove he's the biggest ass in the world? He will be hated, proven himself to be untrustworthy, and will make all the other Housewive's villains seem not very bad at all. That's quite the legacy.

[Watermelon]

I never minded Melissa, but there's something about Melissa and Joe just sitting in shock of how horrible Jim is, that is just super hilarious to me. LIke, these people fought at a Christening and yet they're looking at you like you're the worst possible person. 

 

Jim is just the worst.

[poeticlicensed]

Exactly what is Dim Jim's endgame here? To prove he's the biggest ass in the world? He will be hated, proven himself to be untrustworthy, and will make all the other Housewive's villains seem not very bad at all. That's quite the legacy.

 

That's what I don;t understand. It seems like he has had an agenda since day one, but I can't figure out what that agenda is. He wants to out is friend, and alienate people he barely knows. For what reason? I don't get it. 

 

Or maybe he's just a shit stirring asshole who can't help himself

[LotusFlower]

Exactly what is Dim Jim's endgame here? To prove he's the biggest ass in the world? He will be hated, proven himself to be untrustworthy, and will make all the other Housewive's villains seem not very bad at all. That's quite the legacy.

Dear Jim,

Thank you for being you.

Sincerely,

Aviva Drescher

[heebiejeebie]

In terms of correspondence, I suspect you could add this one:

 

Dear Jim,

     Hope you and your lovely wife (so glad to hear the results on The Cancer) enjoy this muffin basket and scented candle medley.  Keep up the good work.

 

Sincerely

Bravo Executive that decided the legally beleaguered Giudices would make for the most Compelling Season of RHONJ Ever.

[HunterHunted]

Exactly what is Dim Jim's endgame here? To prove he's the biggest ass in the world? He will be hated, proven himself to be untrustworthy, and will make all the other Housewive's villains seem not very bad at all. That's quite the legacy.

Jim has this terrible style of arguing. He doesn't just want to win a fight; he wants to win, burn the crops, salt the earth, and bring about nuclear winter. He just can't stop. There were several points where he could have. Amber grabbed his arm a couple of times. Dina told him to stop. He just couldn't. This strategy might work with some people, but not this group. They are too dumb, drunk, and angry to back down from a fight.

[ghoulina]

Too bad Jim and Amber didn't come down earlier....someone could have shoved Jim overboard during the gator excursion. The world would have been a better place. 

 

I totally get Tre not wanting to get all chummy again with Jac. She has shown that when you're on the outs she will OUT you. They cleared the air and agreed to stop feuding, but that doesn't mean they have to be friends again. There's just too much there. But given there's no outright animosity, I don't see why Joe and Chris couldn't hang out alone. 

 

But, Tre, honey - it's "texts", not "textez". 

 

I just really can't deal with the Nicholas scenes. I feel so dirty watching him struggle and break down on camera like that. The poor kid cannot consent to sharing his journey with all of America, I feel she should recognize that. I really just feel gypped because I thought we were done with her. 

 

And the Walkilies. Although, I will say it was totally worth it to sit through their scenes (a two story closet???) in order to hear Kathy's mama be the first person to FINALLY say the Giudices are paying because they did wrong. Preach!

 

I loved both family dinners actually.That's the kind of stuff I like to see on these shows. Real, zany people just doing their thing. And how hilarious was it that Rosie instantly recognized Kevin Jonas??? I wouldn't have. I actually thought you guys were joking about that!

 

Will the Giudices EVER figure out how they want to pronounce their name??? Inquiring minds want to know. 

 

Now down to FL....WOW. Mardouchey was on a roll tonight. He is just an awful, awful person. He has the nerve to warn Amber against saying too much down there, but he instantly starts involving himself in Bobby and Nichole's relationship. And his "be a man" schtick got real old, real fast. I didn't think Bobby was "hiding" per se. I think he knew Jim was pushing him to a bad place and was perhaps trying avoid a physical confrontation? (I did think Bobby was SUPER rude to Nicole, though, when it wasn't her fault Jim was being an ass.) 

 

Then you've got nearly everyone in tears. Amber aint fooling me, though. I don't believe for a second she was crying because she was upset for Nicole. She was crying because she realized Jim was totally screwing her shot at her dream, by alienating them from every other cast member with hid heinous behavior. 

 

Dina, however....I believe her tears were real. She seems to really hate confrontation.

[Chicklet]

The highlight of the episode tonight , and I'm not lying, was Mr. Jonas. I thought I was losing my marbles when I saw him hiding at the edge of the screen. This is how low you have brought me, Andy Cohen.

 

Ok the other highlight would have been watching Baby Alligator make a snack out of Jim. I dream.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Chicklet

[heebiejeebie]

 

But, Tre, honey - it's "texts", not "textez".

 

 

I never heard any second 't' when she said it.  I just heard Texes.  Like she thinks she always responds when someone sends her male porn stars.  And I loved how almost sanctimoniously proud she was she returned every 'texas'.  As if it was one of the chief graces. 

 

I so agree about Kathy's mom finally saying the very least someone should have said by now.

[demarti]

 

 

 

Dina, however....I believe her tears were real. She seems to really hate confrontation.

Then why is she back on the show? It's all about confrontation. 

[Chicklet]

I present Amber's latest interesting comment "You leave this house in AROARS".

Oy

[Barb23]

I loved when Rosie asked if Lance Bass / N Sync was going to plan the landscaping for Kathy & Rich's new house after finding out Kevin Jonas was working for them.

[demarti]

For such a little dude Jim sure has a big smartass mouth. I'm surprised he hasn't had the shit beat out of him several hundred times during his lifetime. 

[portia7]

Chicklet, I can't even figure what Amber means by that. A little help?

 

The 2 story closet....eh? I don't get that at all. One of them has to go upstairs to get clothes in order to get dressed? Crikey, what a bad idea.

[poeticlicensed]

Bobby locked himself in the bathroom? Really? He didn't go outside, take a walk, jump in the pool? No, he went into the bathroom. That was just bizarre. 

[heebiejeebie]

Bobby locked himself in the bathroom? Really? He didn't go outside, take a walk, jump in the pool? No, he went into the bathroom. That was just bizarre. 

 

Not going to lie, I immediately went there.  Wondered if he had to powder his nose.  Or at least readjust his chemistry in some manner.

[Misslindsey]

 

The highlight of the episode tonight , and I'm not lying, was Mr. Jonas. I thought I was losing my marbles when I saw him hiding at the edge of the screen. This is how low you have brought me, Andy Cohen.

I came into that scene a few seconds late, and I kept thinking that's Kevin Jonas right? Then Rosie came in and sort of recognized him. I almost wish Kevin Jonas' wife was a real housewife now. Is it sad if that was my highlight as well?

 

Why are we wasting so much time on people who are not housewives or are former housewives? I can understand when Rosie, Kathy, and Rich are interacting with the Gorga's or the Giudice's, but they weren't, plus Jaq was thrown in. Seriously? I do not think putting her son on camera is helping him at all.

 

There are no words for Wee Jim, he just would not stop. He kept going on and on. I loved that he said he wouldn't speak poorly about Bobby, then started doing just that. Wee Jim likes to contradict himself.

 

[Sheenieb]

Where's NeNe when you need her? This would've been a good opportunity to tell Jim off about being all up in women bid'ness.

[outtosee]

Oh my god, was this episode the gift that keeps giving or what?

 

1. Kathy and Rosie's mom is THE BEACON OF TRUTH. She sat there, ensconced on her throne over her spaghetti with broccoli di rape just truth cannon-ing it to death. Finally someone calls 'em as she sees 'em. The Giudices did wrong and they have to pay for it. That's that. You can still support them, you can still pray for them, heck, you can still even love them. But they did the crime and they have to pay the time.

 

2. "You have this house in arroars!" I think she meant in an uproar. Either way, I literally could not.

 

3. Which brings me to my next point of view. Jim. I think Jim has to be gay. There is no way he is not gay; I've said this since episode one. I can almost guarantee you that Amba is his beard. Mark my words: Jim is gay and he has a crush on Bobby.

 

4. Why did Bobby hide in a bathroom like a little kid? That was so bizarre.

 

5. Did anyone catch Melissa's faces while she was on the couch listening to Jim go from zero to crazy? I was laughing so hard. I didn't like Melissa or Joe that much last season but damn, they're hilarious this one.

 

6. I want a baby gator :(

Edited September 29, 2014 by outtosee

[LotusFlower]

I present Amber's latest interesting comment "You leave this house in AROARS".

  

Chicklet, I can't even figure what Amber means by that. A little help?

 

I think it means the house is going asunder. *

(* Apollo Nida, from prison.)

[heebiejeebie]

yes but in juvial fashion

[Daisy head]

With his physicality

[fliptopbox]

Dammit Bravo for not having RHONJ On Demand. I missed the last 15-20 mins. The last I saw Bobby had locked himself in the bathroom and the women were freaking the hell out. And Jim was ranting about who knows what.

 

As much as I love a random evening nap that really wasn't the best time for it.

[Daisy head]

I know I shouldn't take this ridiculous show so seriously, but I cannot stomach that fuck face midget Jim. I refuse to watch if there is another season with him. No one should be subjected to his toxic bullshit. The only thing starring him that I would watch would be an hour of watching him get his mini ass beat.

[PerPlexied]

There was definitely more than alcohol being passed around at that house. 

 

Jim definitely pictures Bobby when Amber uses that strap on. 

[Rahul]

And the Walkilies. Although, I will say it was totally worth it to sit through their scenes (a two story closet???) in order to hear Kathy's mama be the first person to FINALLY say the Giudices are paying because they did wrong. Preach!

 

I loved both family dinners actually.That's the kind of stuff I like to see on these shows. Real, zany people just doing their thing. And how hilarious was it that Rosie instantly recognized Kevin Jonas??? I wouldn't have. I actually thought you guys were joking about that!

 

Will the Giudices EVER figure out how they want to pronounce their name??? Inquiring minds want to know. 

 

Dina, however....I believe her tears were real. She seems to really hate confrontation.

 

I was rather enjoying the episode--especially the family dinner bit--up until all the nonsensical drama flared up again in FL. It's a shame Bravo producers are such shit-stirring fiends.

 

Dina's tears were as crocodile as they come. That may explain her unexpected affinity for the reptile the previous day.

 

Bobby running into the bathroom was bizarre. He's almost as much a drama queen as his buddy Jim. Perhaps the "woman" he was banging on the side in his condo was none other than Jimbo?

[HunterHunted]

If Bobby is a juvenile asshole who never sees his kids and cheats on all of his girlfriends, why is Jim friends with him? The way Jim describes Bobby makes it seem like Bobby is not the type of person Jim would be close friends with and yet he is and hurt by the break up of their friendship. I feel like Jim is single white femaling Bobby. He's talking shit about Bobby, but he wants to be him.

[Notmuchofacook]

About that two story closet: it's not practical, unless they have one of those moving closet rods like they have at the dry cleaners. That's the only thing I could think of.

Jim needs to have his ass kicked by the women. I'm not kidding. He's just repulsive, and that's saying a lot with this mess of morons. He's a special kind of stupid.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Notmuchofacook