S19.E25: He Heals the Brokenhearted

[CM-BlueButterfly]

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The family has gathered in Wyoming to honour Garrison and lay him to rest in the family plot next to his grandparents. Kody digs a grave for his son's ashes and the family says their goodbyes.

Air date: May 18, 2025

[LAMMA]

The Kody pilgrimage is really getting old. I have a lot sympathy for him. These moments with Robyn. Still centering her in everything is so off putting. Her and him on the horse together being cute with each other is gross. It's hard not to pass judgment. He should be with all if his children making these memories. 

 

Quote of the episode. "We all lost a son but Janelle lost her son" 😢

Edited Monday at 02:20 AM by LAMMA
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[VioletNevermind]

I am absolutely consumed with disgust toward his asshat.  I realize that he’s Garrison’s biological father, so he has every right to grieve his passing, but I have never seen someone make the passing of someone else ALL about them to this extent.  He loves to squint meaningfully at the camera and add that pinch of drama to every single thing he says: “It’s a pilgrimage,” “I’m taking my boy home and putting him in the ground,” “I’m building an altar,” “This is the final act,” and on and on and on.  I’m sorry, but we did not need to witness Garrison’s grave being dug on national television.  How rich it was for him to mention trying to pull rank by telling his boys to “Stop, please.  I was the first person to hold him” when they were “running the show” at the funeral.  Kody, do you know why they were handling things?  Because you abandoned your sons and they learned not to rely on you for anything anymore.  Garrison started drinking heavily during Covid.  What a coincidence that it started around the time when you allowed your wife to apply that final knife to the proverbial kidney of your family and use Covid to shut everyone out.

At least the real family and siblings got to hang out together.  I hope they’re able to heal from the hell that Robyn unleashed on all of them.  Kody allowed all of it to happen and negatively impacted so many lives.  More than anything, I pray that sweet Gabe and Hunter find a trusted older male who can serve as a father figure and mentor to them because as long as Robyn is breathing, they sure won’t have that in their father. 

Edited Monday at 03:05 AM by VioletNevermind

[surfgirl]

I only watched a few minutes and had to tap out. But I wanted to say this - Kody is a terrible rider. His seat, the way he handles the reins, he's a putz.

ETA: So lemme get this straight - Kody admits on camera that he is playing out some cowboy fantasy of bring his dead son home and he wants to dig the grave himself because that's what cowboys did back in olden times. And the urn is 8-ish inches long but Mitch is making a box to hold the urn and naturally Kody has no idea what the size of that box is, so he's winging it, like everything else in his pathetic life, and he wants to dig a way bigger grave than needed because HE needs to be seen digging a big ass hole. Also, I"m pretty sure there are regulations on how deep a hole has to be for a coffin vs. an urn. You can't just make shit up. And also, NO Kody. YOU did not nurture any of your children to maturity, their mothers did that. 

Edited Monday at 07:07 AM by surfgirl

[Auntie Freeze]

I just finished watching. I might write how offensive the Kody wing of the family is later but for now I'm full of warmth for the OG kids and moms. I loved the fishing trip and seeing them all hang out at the house, Uncle Gabe and his fireworks, Leon breaking cover - all of it.

I feel like that should have been the final episode ever and I know it isn't.

[js9548]

Did Robyn's son Dayton attend the burial?  Also, is Gwen on speaking terms with Paeyton now. Are those 2 better? 

[MsMalin]

Watched the first 10 minutes or so and had to turn it off when Robyn said how hot Kody was on a horse. Really? Absolutely disgusted.  I'm also not thrilled that this was filmed.  I feel sick to my stomach.

Edited Monday at 12:06 PM by MsMalin

[laurakaye]

9 hours ago, VioletNevermind said:

More than anything, I pray that sweet Gabe and Hunter find a trusted older male who can serve as a father figure and mentor to them because as long as Robyn is breathing, they sure won’t have that in their father. 

I'm thinking that Logan, even at a very young age, took on that role for his siblings.  We saw it literally from season 1 episode 1 where Logan is waking up the rest of the kids and making them breakfast.  Janelle's kids all seem very close so I'd imagine they are a strong support system for one another.

I don't know if it counts as watching the show if I fast-forwarded through most of Kody's segments.  I did NOT need to watch him digging at the cemetery in his usual Kody way - not knowing what the hell he was even doing, just digging, no regards to anything but his own need to perform in some imagined drama starring himself.  And at the graveside, Kody started talking about a dream and I FF through that as well because I sensed he was going to make that about himself as well.

I did like seeing Leon.  Maddie referring to her dad as Kody - good for her.  Gabe hugging Janelle was so very sweet, as was Gabe being the fun uncle by bringing Axel some fireworks.  I thought Caleb being excited as Axel reeled in the fish was very genuine and a sharp contrast from Kody and the way he pretend-fathers his non-Robyn kids.

Meri's pain was so raw towards the end, while Christine was focused on making sure that everyone knows how much they're loved.  Janelle was doing the very best she could and I understood so much how you can be "ok" one second and very much not ok the the next.  Robyn seems to be really lacking an empathy chip - funny how she could cry on cue for 14 years but not so much now?

[LotusFlower]

18 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Robyn seems to be really lacking an empathy chip - funny how she could cry on cue for 14 years but not so much now?

Remarkable.  It symbolizes her distance from the kids.  She doesn’t have the bond with the kids as much as the OG wives do, of course, but it feels like there’s more to it.  I mean, WE are all crying.  And she’s not?!

[laurakaye]

Kody seemed confused by the urn that Mitch made, while Meri (and everyone else) knew that it was the form of a Norse Viking ship because she knew Garrison was interested in Norse history.  And there, in a nutshell, is the pink elephant in the room - Kody had no idea about what his son was interested in, what he did with his time, etc.  He built such a high wall between himself and his kids that it couldn't be scaled, so the kids just walked away.  Now Kody is trying to puzzle out what went wrong. 

I just can't believe that one person could be that delusional, but then I remember that Kody has spent the last 14 years being brainwashed by Robyn.  That doesn't excuse Kody one bit - he is every bit as complicit as she is - more, in fact.  But while everyone else is deeply grieving the amazing soul that was Garrison, Kody's words are mostly about himself.  

[Auntie Freeze]

Jumping off from the urn and my own perception that Kody was entirely dismissive of it, I appreciated the editors inserting Gabe's explanation of Garrison's bloody nose photo that was entirely at odds with Kody's rendition.

I liked the way the uncle led the service. I got the impression that he was more in tune with who Garrison actually was than Kody.

[WhatAmIWatching]

I haven’t finished the episode yet, as I needed a small break because I was getting choked up. 
 

I noticed when *Logan was greeting Robyn’s kids, that the girls reached for him to hug as much as he did them. Kody silently standing off to the side by himself, while the rest of this large and extended family gathered in small, chatting knots, encapsulates everything about him. 
 

When *Logan greeting her girls, and Robyn started to walk past, I noticed a fleeting little moment where she reached out to grab or touch Breanna’s arm as Robyn was moving toward Kody. It was as if she was trying to get Brianna stop talking to *Logan. It cut away then, but I wonder if she was mad that *Logan had the audacity to greet her kids and not her? Could she really still be angry at these boys for reacting to her treatment of them? (Edited because I meant Logan but wrote Gabe everywhere. Logan looks a lot like Gabe in this epi from afar!)
 

Uncle Tim did an amazing job with the service! It appears he really knew who Garrison was and how he’d like his funeral to go. It got to me when his voice broke a few times due to his own grief. I’m so glad the family didn’t allow Kody to do his usual bumbling, rambling, showboating act and didn’t let him perform the funeral. His ridiculous attention grabbing moment to talk about his dream was embarrassing and sorry, I don’t really believe that dream really happened.

Christine’s words in her confessionals were so poignant and really showed the person behind the cutesy, goofy mask she wears a lot. 

I again have to commend the photographers, they take some of the most beautiful B roll scenery footage I’ve ever seen on tv. 
 

Ok, diving back in!

Edited Monday at 05:41 PM by WhatAmIWatching

[kassa]

Kudos to the editing team for the cut from Kody saying he didn't need his brothers there to dig the hole, he was digging the hole himself, he just welcomed the support - to footage of Kody off to one side directing his brothers in digging...

(Yes, he also did some digging - I just appreciated the moment of levity)

[islandgal140]

I could cross one thing off my list - I've seen 2 jackasses atop a noble steed.  That should be new the Kody/Robyn family crest. 
 

 

[65mickey]

Whose house was it where the family gathered, the large white house that they kept showing that looked out it was out in the middle of vacant land?

Wasn't it true When Pete said at the service that no one but a mother who has been through this can feel a mother's anguish? And then he said that no one but a father could understand a father's remorse. Kody doesn't show remorse. But unless he is a complete monster I have a feeling that he is chewed up with guilt but he won't show it. Not Kody because he can never admit to being wrong or responsible for the way that he cut his children especially his sons out of his life without a blink of an eye. 

[islandgal140]

4 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Wasn't it true When Pete said at the service that no one but a mother who has been through this can feel a mother's anguish? And then he said that no one but a father could understand a father's remorse. Kody doesn't show remorse. But unless he is a complete monster I have a feeling that he is chewed up with guilt but he won't show it. Not Kody because he can never admit to being wrong or responsible for the way that he cut his children especially his sons out of his life without a blink of an eye. 

If he felt guilt or remorse, then he would have a better relationship with the remaining OG12. 

It actually pains me to type OG12, instead of OG13. 

Kody wouldn't even take the hand of Hunter who offered to help him get out of the hole he dug (that sentence says so much)

Edited Monday at 02:27 PM by islandgal140

[Gramto6]

6 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Whose house was it where the family gathered, the large white house that they kept showing that looked out it was out in the middle of vacant land?

 

I believe that is Maddie and Caleb's house. It is large but they are a big family with just them. Now with the house guests it is perfect!

ETA: Sorry misidentified the house. I forgot they were in "Yoming" sorry!

Edited Monday at 08:46 PM by Gramto6
wrong house sorry

[ginger90]

25 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I believe that is Maddie and Caleb's house. It is large but they are a big family with just them. Now with the house guests it is perfect!

Maddie and Caleb live in North Carolina, that is not their house.

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

Whose house was it where the family gathered, the large white house that they kept showing that looked out it was out in the middle of vacant land?

I believe it’s Erica Brown’s, Caleb’s sister’s house.

[Granny58]

don't know if this has been mentioned yet, I'm typing between chores.  But at the service, Kody's brother mentioned a mother's grief and a father's remorse.  I looked it up TO BE SURE.  Remorse is not the same as grief.  It is regret.  Makes me think he had a heartfelt talk with his brother and expressed regret over the way he treated Garrison.  I hope it helps him appreciate his other children from now on.  

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

I could cross one thing off my list - I've seen 2 jackasses atop a noble steed.  That should be new the Kody/Robyn family crest. 

Maybe they can get new rings made with that as their family crest. 

[Auntie Freeze]

I took it as a mild rebuke from Tim to Kody. Perhaps ascribing an emotion he expected Kody to have rather than one that had been expressed. We'll never know the details but there's quite a difference between 'a mother's anguish' and 'a father's remorse'.

We know at least one of Kody's sisters was invited to Christine's wedding and we don't know how his Wyoming family feel about how he allowed his family to fall apart.

[Emmeline]

During the scene where Kody, his brother & brother-in-law are digging the grave they go to a Kody talking head.  He says that while they were at the funeral home, his other boys were taking over, trying to run the show.   Kody tells them stop, please, I was the first one that held him.  Let me do this.  

When was the last time he held Garrison, comforted Garrison, hugged Garrison?  There may have been a more resent scene, but the last time I remember them together was Garrison and Gabriel being at Coyote Pass to help Kody with some project and both the boys seemed tearful by the end.  It doesn’t matter who held him first, it was who loved and supported him as life when on.  Kody should have left Garrisons brothers and sisters handle it. But no, it’s all about Kody.

Edited Monday at 10:00 PM by Emmeline

[OlderThanDirt]

Was Meri at the after party at the house? Janelle said she was given the itinerary as well.  I'm going to watch the non kody parts again, but I would love it if some kind soul would share a screenshot labeling who's who(m). 

I did love the parts with Maddie and Caleb's kids; especially Axel's fishing adventures and the hyperactive little hummer. Were Mykelti and Tony's kids there? Were any of the OG kids missing? How about the spouses?

[EtheltoTillie]

Looks like this is over for the season? , and they were airing Polyfamily instead.

It kind of makes sense they would end with the funeral episodes. 

Edited Monday at 05:50 PM by EtheltoTillie

[MamaGee]

3 hours ago, OlderThanDirt said:

Was Meri at the after party at the house? Janelle said she was given the itinerary as well.  I'm going to watch the non kody parts again, but I would love it if some kind soul would share a screenshot labeling who's who(m). 

I did love the parts with Maddie and Caleb's kids; especially Axel's fishing adventures and the hyperactive little hummer. Were Mykelti and Tony's kids there? Were any of the OG kids missing? How about the spouses?

Great point: I didn't see Mykelti or Tony at all. I wonder if they requested not to be filmed and that's what the fallout was with R&K? It seems weird we wouldn't see them at all. 

Edited Monday at 08:58 PM by MamaGee

[laurakaye]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Kody doesn't show remorse. But unless he is a complete monster I have a feeling that he is chewed up with guilt but he won't show it. 

This keeps nagging at me...does anyone else think that he won't show his guilt because that would cast Robyn in a bad light? 

Here is what I think.  Kody knows - even if he thinks he doesn't know - that Robyn was instrumental in keeping him away from everyone, especially Garrison and Gabe, with whom Robyn didn't feel "safe."  We saw plenty of that on the show, so I can imagine how much went on that we didn't see.  Kody has always fancied himself as Robyn's knight in shining armor (one can only imagine the cosplaying that went on in that purple Grimace bedroom) and Kody being Kody, he pounded his chest and ramped up that perceived aspect of his and Robyn's relationship - going as far as saying unrepeatable things about his sons on national television - so Robyn would see and hear him defending her honor and go all moony-swoony over it.

Now, Garrison is gone.  If Kody shows guilt or remorse, given that their divide was instigated by Robyn, that would put the burden of Kody's divide with his sons on her shoulders.  And we all know that Robyn is such a fragile, delicate little songbird with tears for feathers - Kody could never do that to her.  Not only that, if he did suggest she had a role in the family breakup, she could leave his ass too and then he would be completely and utterly alone, which we know is his biggest fear.

I think there is something there, the above rambling is me trying to parse out what it is.

Edited Monday at 06:04 PM by laurakaye

[surfgirl]

29 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Looks like this is over for the season? , and they were airing Polyfamily instead.

It kind of makes sense they would end with the funeral episodes. 

They, TLC, ought to end this series here and now, let me explain. This show contributed to killing this family, IMO, YMMV, but that's how I see it. Sure K&R (I refuse to type out their names anymore because they are despicable human beings) are complicit in all of that too, but it was K and his penchant for fame and an easy buck that landed them on TLC, I have no doubts about that. So he and R literally and figuratively killed this big, beautiful family. Let the show series end here, with them actually laying to rest this beautiful son, this gentle, loving soul whom K&R ostracized, criticized, insulted, and abandoned on this very show on television for all the world to witness. I say, let it end here and now.

Then, give us a new series 'After Sister Wives', starring only the OG wives and children who want to be shown. Explore the aftermath - the real dirt - of plyg families once they escape their toxic patriarchy. That is a show I would watch and support. But nothing more with K&R and their kids. That would be the best punishment for them, actual FOMO of no more TLC gravy train. NO SOUP FOR YOU!

[Quof]

58 minutes ago, MamaGee said:

I didn't see Mykelti are l at Tony at all. I wonder if they requested not to be filmed

I did a literal spit take at the thought of Mykelti turning down an opportunity to be on camera.  I'm sure some internet sleuth will uncover that one of the kids was sick or something at the time of this gathering.  

[laurakaye]

43 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Then, give us a new series 'After Sister Wives', starring only the OG wives and children who want to be shown. Explore the aftermath - the real dirt - of plyg families once they escape their toxic patriarchy. 

I adore this idea.  They clearly have an audience to keep going.  I would definitely watch if the OG3 and the adult kids who want to participate give us the truth.  And of course, leaving the Dark Queen and her noodle-haired puppet off the show would be the cherry on top.

Edited Monday at 07:00 PM by laurakaye

[Natalie68]

My takeaway from this episode is Kody made it all about him. The stupid digging of the hole with all of his man tools and plastic sheeting.  Then when it is done, they filmed him from the back.  I could picture him asking if his ass looked good, making them shoot him a certain way. He is such a goddam turd! I pictured Robyn pushing the youngest tender into the scene. It really is to bad Garrison's funeral had to interfere with their vacation down memory lane. 🙄

The rest of the family acted like normal people and it was for Garrison. Lovely yet incredibly sad.

[islandgal140]

The sad part is that the brother-in-law eulogizing Gar, going out of his way to wear mismatched Hawaiian shirt and shorts and open with a Princess Bride quote, probably knows more about Gar than his own damn father. The one time Kody came out of this narc-ness to tell a story about Gar, it was wrong! Gabe had to tell us how Gar really got the bloody nose. 

Thank goodness for the brother-in-law. He "preached" a wonderful Garrison send off.  I confess to the invisible munchkins appearing and cutting onions directly into my eyes, when he was getting choked up during the service.  It was touching, paid homage to Gar and even managed to infuse some humor without being offensive or gauche. Could you imagine Kody doing it?!?! The one thing he did say at the service was self-serving and selfish. Basically Garrison came to him in a dream, sat on the bed in the house he wasn't allowed in during his life and told his dad, and in essence, Kody should not beat himself up about it, he was fine and Kody should stop listening to sad songs. WTF!>?

Mitch is super talented. That wooden piece to hold the urn was gorgeous. I remember the stunning dining table he made for Christine. I wanted one and would drop $$ on it if he took orders, if weren't too expensive, which it looked.

I guess Maddie was trying to be the adult in the room by saying she was sorry if she ever offended Robyn and her tenders, which I respect her for, but I am sure it was to no avail and just further gave Robyn a sense of satisfaction. Don't feed the beast whose appetite for victimhood and drama is bottomless. 

One giant glaring thing about Maddie in that scene, when referring to Kody, she didn't call him Dad. She referred to him by his first name, Kody. DAMN!!!!!

OMG, during the fishing trip, I saw someone in a hat and accidentally mistook her for Christine. Ysabel is truly the spitting image of her mom. 

[General Days]

I posted this in the wrong thread. I'm bringing it over from the one for S19.E24.

I turned the episode on today, to catch some stuff that I missed early in the episode.

One thing I'd missed was the "Worland, WY" caption at the beginning (with Maddie, Janelle, and crew in the house, before the fishing trip). Looking at a map, that's about 70 miles south of Lovell, which is where the Brown ranch is. I wonder if the OG family stayed in Worland to avoid running into Kody and Robyn ahead of time. 

That's where they are when Janelle says they're on Caleb's home turf, and the internet indicates it's where Caleb grew up, and where Mr. Brush pastored a church.

I didn't notice her last night, but today, I'm pretty sure I spotted Caleb's sister, Erica (Curtis Brown's widow) in one of the house scenes. I wonder if that's her home that the family stayed in. They seemed more "at home" than you would in an Air B&B. (Also, the place looked like a family home, not a rental.)

I'm also wondering if some of the young people I didn't recognize, but who have the Brown family look, are the OG kids cousins via Curtis and Erica. 

 

49 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

If I was ever in doubt of Kody's narcissism, this episode erased it. COMPLETELY. 

I feel the same. I think all the sort of improvements that the family (and the audience) would like to see in Kody are maybe beyond him. Everything he said and did centered on him.

 

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Thank goodness for the brother-in-law. He "preached" a wonderful Garrison send off.  I confess to the invisible munchkins appearing and cutting onions directly into my eyes, when he was getting choked up during the service.  It was touching, paid homage to Gar and even managed to infuse some humor without being offensive or gauche. 

Yeah, it was a sweet family send-off, and I'm glad they only showed us bits and pieces. I'm proud of the kids who chose to speak on camera. I'm proud of the ones who chose to protect their privacy and grieve more privately. And I'm trying to ignore Kody as best I can. 

 

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I guess Maddie was trying to be the adult in the room by saying she was sorry if she ever offended Robyn and her tenders, which I respect her for [...]

One giant glaring thing about Maddie in that scene, when referring to Kody, she didn't call him Dad. She referred to him by his first name, Kody. DAMN!!!!!

 

I was proud of Maddie for that. She seems to work really hard to keep perspective about her family. I am glad that Janelle is out in NC with her, now. 

[VioletNevermind]

13 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I'm thinking that Logan, even at a very young age, took on that role for his siblings.  We saw it literally from season 1 episode 1 where Logan is waking up the rest of the kids and making them breakfast.

So true- and he shouldn't have had to do that either.  I don't blame Logan one bit for peacing out of this trainwreck years ago.  It's one thing for an older kid to pitch in around the house, but he knew that things still needed to get done at home as his mothers were relying on food assistance programs while his father was hours away in his sports car, chasing tail.

Edited Tuesday at 01:33 AM by VioletNevermind

[applewood]

17 hours ago, VioletNevermind said:

 

  More than anything, I pray that sweet Gabe and Hunter find a trusted older male who can serve as a father figure and mentor to them because as long as Robyn is breathing, they sure won’t have that in their father. 

Perhaps David could serve as a father figure to Janelle's boys to some degree. I know he has a lot of kids already(8 I believe) plus Christine's kids but he seems like such a great dad if they need advice or someone to spend time with.

[VioletNevermind]

6 hours ago, 65mickey said:

But unless he is a complete monster I have a feeling that he is chewed up with guilt but he won't show it. Not Kody because he can never admit to being wrong or responsible for the way that he cut his children especially his sons out of his life without a blink of an eye. 

I think he absolutely is a monster.  I also think he is consumed with guilt about Garrison (as well he should be), but Robyn presented him with a pretty simple choice long ago: Focus exclusively on their family or maintain relationships with his OG kids.  Her Covid rules were just the final puzzle pieces sliding into place for her.  It took her a while, but she played the long game masterfully.  There's no way Kody will go against Robyn's will.  He has everything he wants with her: A "shy, pretty wife," biological children with her, and stepdaughters who stroke his ego and appear to treat him with complete and total deference.

God, I loathe him.  Good for the kids who have seen the truth and distanced themselves from him for their own wellbeing.

Edited Monday at 08:37 PM by VioletNevermind

[Mr. Miner]

I’m all in for the After Sister Wives show with K&R absolutely nowhere in sight.

Edited Monday at 09:53 PM by Mr. Miner

[precious pupp]

I agree with so many posts here.  It was a very hard episode to watch, yet seeing most of the OG kids and OG moms paying tributes to their beloved brother and son was, I hope for them, starting to heal and a chance to reunite with their siblings.  I didn't see Mykelti and Tony, or their kids.  Dayton was not visible, either.  

Seeing and hearing what K & R said, is something I could have done without.  Garrison's uncle was the perfect choice to officiate.  Rest easy, dear Garrison.  

[MsMalin]

Surfgirl:  I agree with your assessment of what this show has done to the family.  The original premise was to show us why polygamy is so good. We'll,  now we finally know the truth and they kept up the charade for $$.

But this is nothing new for reality shows. Look at 16 and Pregnant. The first few years showed how tough it was until the teens hit paydirt. And don't even get me started on the Housewives franchises.

It's  all a big lie for $$ and I'll even include Instagram and TicToc in that. Fake influencers to make money and some poor souls are made to feel inferior.

[b2H]

4 hours ago, surfgirl said:

They, TLC, ought to end this series here and now, let me explain. This show contributed to killing this family, IMO, YMMV, but that's how I see it. Sure K&R (I refuse to type out their names anymore because they are despicable human beings) are complicit in all of that too, but it was K and his penchant for fame and an easy buck that landed them on TLC, I have no doubts about that. So he and R literally and figuratively killed this big, beautiful family. Let the show series end here, with them actually laying to rest this beautiful son, this gentle, loving soul whom K&R ostracized, criticized, insulted, and abandoned on this very show on television for all the world to witness. I say, let it end here and now.

Then, give us a new series 'After Sister Wives', starring only the OG wives and children who want to be shown. Explore the aftermath - the real dirt - of plyg families once they escape their toxic patriarchy. That is a show I would watch and support. But nothing more with K&R and their kids. That would be the best punishment for them, actual FOMO of no more TLC gravy train. NO SOUP FOR YOU!

My understanding from multiple social media posts is that a show with just the three OG wives is in process without K&R.  I think that would be wonderful, but I can't imagine how long it would last.  Maybe expanding some of the adult kids' families would be helpful. 
Anything other than one more moaning session with K&R would be welcome.  We don't need any of that stuff anymore.

[Meowwww]

Show has been doing really well, showing the grief with dignity.  I’m impressed with production. 
I cried during the funeral, what a beautiful service with a very strong message.  Father’s remorse indeed!  

Edited Monday at 11:41 PM by Meowwww

[General Days]

1 hour ago, b2H said:

My understanding from multiple social media posts is that a show with just the three OG wives is in process without K&R.  I think that would be wonderful, but I can't imagine how long it would last.  Maybe expanding some of the adult kids' families would be helpful. 
Anything other than one more moaning session with K&R would be welcome.  We don't need any of that stuff anymore.

 

I have not heard this, but I would watch it, at least at first. I do think at this point, Kody and Robyn are "the villains" of the series. I'm not sure what the series would be about without them, but I'm tired of it being about their now finished marriages to a man who loved to say he never loved them. But if they did what @surfgirl suggested here:

5 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Then, give us a new series 'After Sister Wives', starring only the OG wives and children who want to be shown. Explore the aftermath - the real dirt - of plyg families once they escape their toxic patriarchy. That is a show I would watch and support.

 

I would watch that. 

I'm not so sure Christine, Janelle, or Meri would participate, though. Christine and Meri both still have a lot of family in the AUB. Meri and Janelle both seem to hold a somewhat LDS/fundamentalist Mormon worldview.

I suspect they'd feel they were betraying family, friends, and faith by doing that. Then again, money talks, and these girls have gotten used to having some.

[surfgirl]

28 minutes ago, General Days said:

I would watch that. 

I'm not so sure Christine, Janelle, or Meri would participate, though. Christine and Meri both still have a lot of family in the AUB. Meri and Janelle both seem to hold a somewhat LDS/fundamentalist Mormon worldview.

I suspect they'd feel they were betraying family, friends, and faith by doing that. Then again, money talks, and these girls have gotten used to having some.

I think they'd do it, if only to stick it to their ex husband and sperm donor. They've been vocal about the negative aspects of plural marriage and I don't see why they'd stop talking about it now. And for the record, I don't care how dull this show might be, I'd still watch just to support them and know the 'others' were watching it seething.

[Absolom]

Kody keeps going funeral, funeral, and confusing people.  They had an internment which can be very short much like attending the burial immediately after a funeral.  It's usually a bit of scripture and a few prayers and done.  They held the service that would have been the actual funeral shortly after the death.  Of course, people can generally have the service they want, but for whatever reason possibly the TV cameras or some of the relatives unable to attend the actual funeral, they made more of a production of the internment than is normally done.  Perhaps it was due to Kody's confusion of thinking it was another funeral. 

 

[surfgirl]

One positive that I'm seeing here in the comments is how many folks see that Meri isn't a bad person and does love those OG kids as her own; and that more folks see what a good, decent, and loving guy David is. David is a real man, and the OG boys seems more like they're his children than the sons of a narcissistic jack rabbit.

A small but lovely result of this shitshow. 

[AZChristian]

Kody needs to look up the definitions of "sextant" (the word he used) and "sexton" (the correct word).

[Denize]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Kody needs to look up the definitions of "sextant" (the word he used) and "sexton" (the correct word).

And Kody wouldn't have a clue or the patience to use a sextant. Garrison would.

[LilyD]

After reading about this episode I have just one question: Is nothing off limits in reality shows anymore?

As beautiful and touching as this funeral may have been, it should have been private in accordance with Garrison's own feelings/struggles about this show. They could have paid tribute to him in a million other ways or filmed the funeral from a respectful distance. Jeez, who even came up with the idea of filming Kody digging a grave for a son he obviously didn't care much for?  I'm trying to remember which (if any?) funerals of very famous people were broadcast that detailed. I believe most keep parts of the service, like the actual interment private, as should be.  But that's my personal opinion.

We talked about how far the Browns would go to keep the money train going. Well, here's the answer. 

[Orcinus orca]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

We talked about how far the Browns would go to keep the money train going. Well, here's the answer. 

Reading all of the recaps leads me to believe that my prediction has been correct - it's all about the money, both for the Browns and TLC.  And the reason I refuse to watch.  Cashing in on tragedy is just despicable.

The reason that this show continues is the K/R behavior and viewers tuning in to see how outrageous they can be. 

[Kellyee]

Aside from the funeral service itself, the two sides of the family seemed to remain very separate. I'm not sure this really was "everyone coming together." And we never saw which side Meri was hanging out with at all. All her talking heads seemed to be separate. 

It does seem apparent that Leon is not in touch with Robyn's kids either, based on that one short conversation with Maddie. I wonder if Leon is also estranged from Kody and Robyn. 

Nothing seems to have changed much at all. I guess we'll maybe hear more at the Tell All starting next week.