Snazzy Daisy April 30 Share April 30 Quote While investigating a murder in a rural town and clashing with the local sheriff, Will uncovers surprising truths about his past. Meanwhile, Angie makes an unexpected discovery, and Ormewood continues to struggle with his diagnosis. Air Date: May 06, 2025 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/
Snazzy Daisy April 30 Author Share April 30 Yul Vazquez as Sheriff Caleb Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8649522
Snazzy Daisy May 2 Author Share May 2 Quote 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8650931
EtheltoTillie May 4 Share May 4 Angie in a hospital bed? Oy Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8652742
possibilities May 4 Share May 4 Will is looking much more rumpled than I've ever seen him. Angie is probably in the hospital because of the beating she took. As always, Faith looks fantastic. The people who do the costuming for this show are fantastic. Is there an Emmy for this, and why haven't they won it, if there is? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8652806
peeayebee May 4 Share May 4 Yes, there's a Creative Arts Emmy award for Best Costuming. (Actually there are four categories: Contemporary, Period, Fantasy/Sci-FI, and Reality/Variety. So, maybe next year. 2 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8652815
cardigirl Tuesday at 02:36 PM Share Tuesday at 02:36 PM Why is Will in a hoodie and sweats? Isn't his signature look a suit and tie, always? Also is this the next-to-last episode of the season? 😭 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8654617
Snazzy Daisy Tuesday at 03:11 PM Author Share Tuesday at 03:11 PM 33 minutes ago, cardigirl said: Also is this the next-to-last episode of the season? 😭 Yes, this is the penultimate episode of S03. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8654646
peachmangosteen Tuesday at 09:33 PM Share Tuesday at 09:33 PM Honestly, I'm ready for this season to be over. It started out so strong but these past few have just not been my cup of tea. They better fix it! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8654878
Atlanta Wednesday at 12:44 AM Share Wednesday at 12:44 AM I thought Will's dad was the Ally McBeal guy from seasons past? Nico has found a niche as pet-sitter, line-holder, etc. Can I get that job? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8654995
Constant Viewer Wednesday at 01:07 AM Share Wednesday at 01:07 AM They better not let anything happen to Betty! 6 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655018
AimingforYoko Wednesday at 01:08 AM Share Wednesday at 01:08 AM 19 minutes ago, Atlanta said: Nico has found a niche as pet-sitter, line-holder, etc. Can I get that job? Except now it might have killed them. Man, there was a lot going on this episode, Angie's pregnant, Will found his dad and now Seth, Ormewood, Nico and Betty (and nameless others) are in mortal peril. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655020
Jodithgrace Wednesday at 02:32 AM Share Wednesday at 02:32 AM The irony of Ormewood getting caught up in the veteran bureaucracy is everybody telling him “thank you for your service,” while slamming doors in his face. And I’ll bet it’s gotten much worse since they filmed this. I knew as soon as that guy handed the veteran a sandwich that no good would come of it. The Will Trent title in the smooshed “moist” banana bread was priceless! So Angie loses a mother and Will finds a father? DNA aside, they both know their way around drywall. Who knew that was an inherited trait? It was funny, Angie addressing her mother through the plumbing. Interesting comment by Dr. boyfriend about Angie possibly choosing to go to North Carolina. I guess Georgia is one of those no abortion states these days and the nearest place to go is NC. I’m glad he was non judgmental about her fall off the wagon. He seems like a keeper to me. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655095
Irlandesa Wednesday at 02:33 AM Share Wednesday at 02:33 AM I don't know if they're going to be able to wrap everything up next week. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655096
Jodithgrace Wednesday at 02:46 AM Share Wednesday at 02:46 AM I hope it’s not a season ending cliff hanger…I hate those! 8 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655106
AnimeMania Wednesday at 03:43 AM Share Wednesday at 03:43 AM 57 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said: Interesting comment by Dr. boyfriend about Angie possibly choosing to go to North Carolina. I guess Georgia is one of those no abortion states these days and the nearest place to go is NC. I’m glad he was non judgmental about her fall off the wagon. He seems like a keeper to me. and they will have to drive to NC instead of fly because Angie doesn't have a "Real ID" and if they wait until she can get one, Angie would be too far along to get the procedure. I feel bad for Will, everybody is in your house drinking "Iced Tea" and they refuse to give you glass. I am surprised they didn't have a little shot glass with "Iced Tea" in it, in front of Betty, to really piss Will off. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655130
statsgirl Wednesday at 03:55 AM Share Wednesday at 03:55 AM Well those were a bunch of twists that i didn't expect. The actor playing the sheriff is great. As deadpan as Will is, but a tiny 20% smile when Amanda told him that she protects Will now. The drywall conversation was just the right touch. Dr. Seth is perfect. (Where can i get one of those for myself?) I'm afraid that he's going to die next episode from the bioweapon. I liked Angie talking to her mom/the sewer, her doubts about raising a child, and Faith reassuring her that children are just people. Fingers crossed that it gets wrapped up next week and isn't an end of season cliffhanger. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655135
agathapenny Wednesday at 04:18 AM Share Wednesday at 04:18 AM That was an excellent episode and the surprises just kept coming. They better not screw it up by killing one of our awesome characters. It seems to be a fad with shows this season. (Stupid) Did not see pregnant Angie coming. I just thought her falling off the wagon would end her relationship. I'm very worried for doctor Seth's survival. He's all nice and supportive, and this show loves to torture Angie and Will. Loved the Faith and Angie scene. If anyone can understand a surprise pregnancy it's Faith. And she said just the right thing, after Will unfortunately said just the wrong thing, no matter how true it was and that he meant Deedee, not Angie. Loved Nico and Ormewood. Second big shock was hello, Will's dad. Great twist. Bonding over precision and drywall. Very curious what the story is between Will's parents. I love how much Amanda loves Will. Good mystery, too. Did not call the dad as the big bad. Somehow in a few brief shots, this show made me like and feel very sad for the veteran who's patient zero. On 5/4/2025 at 7:58 AM, possibilities said: The people who do the costuming for this show are fantastic. Is there an Emmy for this, and why haven't they won it, if there is? I've said it before and I'll say it again, this show's signature look is genius. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655138
possibilities Wednesday at 05:30 AM Share Wednesday at 05:30 AM I found it hard to believe that Hostile Sheriff becamse Loving Dad so quickly. I really didn't like him at all, so I also felt bad for Will. My assumption immediately was that he either raped or was a client of Will's mom. But if that was the case, would he have been so quick to soften toward Will? I really don't want them to kill any of the characters. I love how Betty sits on a placemat on the dining table. Hated everybody denying Will the iced tea. They should be moving to offer him some. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655159
Snazzy Daisy Wednesday at 05:53 AM Author Share Wednesday at 05:53 AM I love the addition of Yul Vazquez as Will’s biological father. I hope we will continue seeing him from time to time in S04. Please don’t make him disappear like Uncle Antonio. 🤞🏻 This is an intense and triggering episode. I am NOT ready for another quarantine episode. I still have PTSD from losing Bobby Nash in 9-1-1. I cannot handle losing another beloved characters to a stupid virus/pandemic. No more TV deaths, please!!! I need Betty, Ormewood and Nico to be OK… 😫 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655167
DEL901 Wednesday at 10:00 AM Share Wednesday at 10:00 AM 6 hours ago, AnimeMania said: and they will have to drive to NC instead of fly because Angie doesn't have a "Real ID" and if they wait until she can get one, Angie would be too far along to get the procedure. I feel bad for Will, everybody is in your house drinking "Iced Tea" and they refuse to give you glass. I am surprised they didn't have a little shot glass with "Iced Tea" in it, in front of Betty, to really piss Will off. I think it is also a call back to season 1 (or 2?) when they showed how young Will stole a car to drive young Angie to get an abortion after she was raped by foster dad. This time the dad is a good guy, but she still doesn’t feel equipped to be a mom. I wonder if she’ll but him out of the process and get Will to drive her again? 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655205
Badsamaritan Wednesday at 11:20 AM Share Wednesday at 11:20 AM Well that was just full of surprises, wasn't it? A giant glass of Nope to Angie being a mom. She hasn't dealt at all with her trauma, there is no good reason to saddle her with a baby, show. Was there a meeting of ABC brass and showrunners where they were told to just throw any and everything at the wall this season, no matter how ridiculous? Because Angie's mom dying wasn't enough DRAMA, let's throw in an unexpected pregnancy for the most damaged character that we refuse to show them getting any mental health help. This twist is a huge bust for me. Regarding the dad reveal - I'm glad that serial killer isn't Will's dad. I think folks may need a refresher around Will's birth though. If I remember correctly, the serial killer is the one that put Will in the trash because his mom died giving birth, right? The SK was in love with her and was mad that she died during childbirth so he put Will in the trash can, where Amanda found him. I think probably the dad was just a customer and never expected a child to come from it. It appears he's not married nor has any other children so it was likely just as much a shock to him. He appears to be a decent person - I think the scene of the Black woman bringing him banana bread and talking only to him at first was very pointed - so it seems as if they're establishing that he's not a monster like the SK who claimed to be his dad. I love when Amanda scolds her children. Telling Will she heard about his use of "moistness" and Will looking at Faith like, 'You ratted me out to mom??' was hilarious. SHE BETTER BE OK NEXT WEEK, SHOW. 😑 I knew as soon as Roy showed up and Nico started talking to him that Nico and Betty would be exposed to whatever is happening with Roy. What's the deal with all the multi episode arcs this season? I can't say I'm a fan. 🫤 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655219
cardigirl Wednesday at 11:22 AM Share Wednesday at 11:22 AM 7 hours ago, statsgirl said: Dr. Seth is perfect. (Where can i get one of those for myself?) I'm afraid that he's going to die next episode from the bioweapon. 7 hours ago, agathapenny said: Did not see pregnant Angie coming. I just thought her falling off the wagon would end her relationship. I'm very worried for doctor Seth's survival. He's all nice and supportive, and this show loves to torture Angie and Will. Loved the Faith and Angie scene. If anyone can understand a surprise pregnancy it's Faith. And she said just the right thing, after Will unfortunately said just the wrong thing, no matter how true it was and that he meant Deedee, not Angie. These were my thoughts at the end of the episode. So many ways for this all to go south, but I am most worried about Dr. Seth, as he said all the right things and also that he loves Angie, so ... I think he definitely dies, because TV likes to punish me and keep Scott Foley off my screens. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655220
cardigirl Wednesday at 11:30 AM Share Wednesday at 11:30 AM Also, I loved the conversation Will and Ormewood made up for Amanda and Pete. Angie and Faith just rolling their eyes at them. Tee hee! 12 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655224
AimingforYoko Wednesday at 12:29 PM Share Wednesday at 12:29 PM 58 minutes ago, cardigirl said: Also, I loved the conversation Will and Ormewood made up for Amanda and Pete. Angie and Faith just rolling their eyes at them. Tee hee! "See, you went too far." 2 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655241
possibilities Wednesday at 12:58 PM Share Wednesday at 12:58 PM I thought the sandwich was going to be poisoned. I really didn't count on it being infectious. Aren't most contagious infections spread from one person to another by air? If you eat something, you could be infected by it, but it's not that likely anybody catches it from you. They would have to eat the same thing, wouldn't they? Of course, tv logic is different than real world logic. Two tv shows I watch killed off major characters recently and I really don't trust anybody not to do it anymore, but I am hoping this show won't break my heart. If they have Angie finally become mentally healthy because she has a baby I will be really pissed. What a stupid message to send the world: that getting preggo saves everything. Bullshit. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655257
peachmangosteen Wednesday at 01:13 PM Share Wednesday at 01:13 PM (edited) The guy playing Will's dad looks to be maybe 10 years older than Will so that's weird casting. They actually do look very similar though. My cable has been really shitty lately so I ended up missing every big reveal in this ep, which is kinda funny. Anyway, I was so confused because I remember the guy from Ally McBeal being Will's dad. Did they end up finding out he actually wasn't? I fully don't remember that lol. I'm already so over all the piled on trauma/drama as of late so if they kill Ormewood, Nico, or Betty next week I might seriously just stop watching. Edited Wednesday at 01:13 PM by peachmangosteen 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655269
cardigirl Wednesday at 02:02 PM Share Wednesday at 02:02 PM 1 hour ago, possibilities said: If they have Angie finally become mentally healthy because she has a baby I will be really pissed. What a stupid message to send the world: that getting preggo saves everything. While I agree that one should not have a child in the hopes of saving a relationship, or to keep one from being lonely, I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring how an unexpected event (i.e., pregnancy and motherhood) can alter one's life for the better. I can see the entire cast stepping up to help with the baby. 10 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655291
fishcakes Wednesday at 02:35 PM Share Wednesday at 02:35 PM (edited) As soon as Sheriff Caleb appeared, I kept thinking I'd seen that guy but couldn't place him. After the reveal, I realized that he seemed so familiar to me because physically he looked like an older version of Will, and he had the same mannerisms and way of speaking. Kudos to the actor and to the casting director. Loved: Betty's alarmed little "mm!?!" when Nico said they texted the girl 3 times that day. Enraged by: the line about going to North Carolina. Angie and every other woman in Georgia or any other state should be able to get reproductive health care where they live without some bloated sexist state legislators trying to put them in prison for it. 13 hours ago, Constant Viewer said: They better not let anything happen to Betty! When the lockdown started, I immediately thought, NO NOT BETTY. All those other people in danger, including Nico and Ormewood, both of whom I love, but the first one I thought of was Betty, which either says something about me as a bad person or about her as a good dog, or both. 1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said: Anyway, I was so confused because I remember the guy from Ally McBeal being Will's dad. Did they end up finding out he actually wasn't? I fully don't remember that lol. As I remember it with Ally McBeal guy, Will asked him if he was his father, and the guy just played coy about it, saying something like, "I'd have to be a real monster to put my own son in the trash, wouldn't I?" Of course, he WAS a real monster, so that was a non-answer. I vaguely recall that there was a DNA test, but Will didn't look at the results because he really didn't want to know? I might be making that part up. Edited Wednesday at 02:37 PM by fishcakes 3 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655312
AnimeMania Wednesday at 03:08 PM Share Wednesday at 03:08 PM I can't get over that Angie's mom was in a nursing home for 17 years, who was paying for that? Obviously she wasn't, since she was in a coma and doesn't have any money. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655329
seacliffsal Wednesday at 03:11 PM Share Wednesday at 03:11 PM I think Amanda really hindered Will's ability to investigate the initial murders due to not allowing him to shower and dress. She knows how much his routine means to him. It was also why IMO the Sheriff was initially put-off by Will and Faith. He even made a comment about the GBI dress code to his deputy. The Sheriff's 5 step dry wall process and the importance of the details to him indicates he would have been more receptive to Will/Faith if Will had been allowed the time to put on, what is for him, his 'uniform.' Sorry to nitpick that, but they were trying to sell the Sheriff as 'one of those' which may not be entirely accurate. Unfortunately, I think it looks like Dr. Seth may be a victim of the bioweapon and then Angie decides to keep the baby to raise alone (but Will, Ormwood and everyone else will be there). This is my opinion only, no spoilers or anything. Betty better not be a victim of the bioweapon... I guess I don't understand why Ormwood doesn't use the health insurance that is a benefit of his job. I was happy to see more of Nico until the hospital lockdown (only because there is danger and potential for several victims). However, I think Nico will do whatever necessary to keep Betty safe... 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655330
agathapenny Wednesday at 03:36 PM Share Wednesday at 03:36 PM 23 minutes ago, seacliffsal said: Unfortunately, I think it looks like Dr. Seth may be a victim of the bioweapon and then Angie decides to keep the baby to raise alone (but Will, Ormwood and everyone else will be there). I think it's more likely that Dr. Seth dies and Angie decides she can't do it on her own and gets an abortion, or somehow has a miscarriage. I just don't see, unless the actor is pregnant, the show wanting to go through the inconvenience of writing in a pregnancy. But then, the show surprised the heck out me this week, so.... 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655348
fastiller Wednesday at 03:40 PM Share Wednesday at 03:40 PM 26 minutes ago, seacliffsal said: I think Amanda really hindered Will's ability to investigate the initial murders due to not allowing him to shower and dress. She knows how much his routine means to him. It was also why IMO the Sheriff was initially put-off by Will and Faith. He even made a comment about the GBI dress code to his deputy. The Sheriff's 5 step dry wall process and the importance of the details to him indicates he would have been more receptive to Will/Faith if Will had been allowed the time to put on, what is for him, his 'uniform.' Sorry to nitpick that, but they were trying to sell the Sheriff as 'one of those' which may not be entirely accurate. I 100% agree with this. Said it to myself whilst watching. I think it was just a way to set up the 'sweats on the job, three-piece suit during off hours' joke later in the ep. Not only will Will want the comfort of his uniform, it also sent a message to the Sheriff about the seriousness with which GBI will work the case. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655352
marceline Wednesday at 03:41 PM Share Wednesday at 03:41 PM (edited) I'm assuming Angie will lose the baby. This reminds me of Jane's pregnancy on "Rizzoli & Isles." I have no desire to watch pregnant Angie refuse to take even basic precautions. Seth is a good guy. Almost too good. Is Caroline back at work? I thought I heard someone call her name at the office. Look I love Betty but there's no reason to carry her everywhere. She would be safer at home. I find it hard to believe that a hospital would just let Nico walk around with a dog that clearly isn't a service dog. Ormewood really has become one of my favorites. The best thing that happened to that character was getting rid of Gina. I assume this sickness/poisoning is the domestic terror group testing out something they plan to use on the larger population. I need someone to lay out for me how this sheriff ended up crossing paths with Lucy. Edited Wednesday at 03:44 PM by marceline 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655353
anniebird Wednesday at 04:30 PM Share Wednesday at 04:30 PM Again, the casting department should be commended - the actor playing Will's father looks and sounds enough like him, to be his actual father. 11 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655383
Badsamaritan Wednesday at 04:32 PM Share Wednesday at 04:32 PM 39 minutes ago, marceline said: I need someone to lay out for me how this sheriff ended up crossing paths with Lucy. 1. 35 years ago (or however old Wilbur is), he attended a law enforcement gathering in Atlanta. Lucy and her fellow prostitutes were working the event (as is very often the case), and the sheriff chose her. Wham bam thank you ma'am, here's Wilbur. 2. 35 years ago, before he decided to go into law enforcement, the sheriff was a young man kicking around the big city, got horny, then got Lucy. Same result. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. Just because the sheriff is in a small town now, doesn't mean he never traveled. I don't think Lucy took a trip there, I think the sheriff was in Atlanta for some reason. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655386
milkyaqua Wednesday at 05:41 PM Share Wednesday at 05:41 PM (edited) Add me as another one who went, "No! Why would they make Angie pregnant?" But I did like Dr. Seth being nice and level-headed. Was also surprised that the dad was the big bad. And nothing better happen to Betty, Ormewood, Nico or Dr. Seth. Though I have a feeling if anyone perishes it will be Dr. Seth. How that'll affect Angie, I don't know. I did like Faith's discussion with Angie. I agree that if Angie keeps the baby, she'll have plenty of help. So the sheriff is Will's dad. Didn't see that coming but agree the casting is good. I did appreciate Amanda letting him know what was what. I'm hoping for the best next week but I'm prepared if something bad happens (just hopefully not to the core characters). But TPTB next season need to dial it back on throwing multiple storylines into one episode or even one season because it's a bit too much. Edited Wednesday at 10:32 PM by milkyaqua 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655431
Sarah 103 Wednesday at 05:58 PM Share Wednesday at 05:58 PM 12 hours ago, possibilities said: My assumption immediately was that he either raped or was a client of Will's mom. But if that was the case, would he have been so quick to soften toward Will? I'm going with client. She might not have known who the father was and therefore would not have told him. He does not hold it against her, so he would also not hold it against Will. 6 hours ago, Badsamaritan said: What's the deal with all the multi episode arcs this season? I can't say I'm a fan. 🫤 I'm guessing it's network trying to compete with streaming and buzzy cable dramas. 6 hours ago, cardigirl said: Also, I loved the conversation Will and Ormewood made up for Amanda and Pete. Angie and Faith just rolling their eyes at them. Tee hee! That was fantastic. It really shows how comfortable they are with each other. 3 hours ago, fishcakes said: Loved: Betty's alarmed little "mm!?!" when Nico said they texted the girl 3 times that day. I absolutely loved that even Betty thought Nico was texting their crush too many times in one day. 2 hours ago, agathapenny said: I think it's more likely that Dr. Seth dies and Angie decides she can't do it on her own and gets an abortion, or somehow has a miscarriage. I just don't see, unless the actor is pregnant, the show wanting to go through the inconvenience of writing in a pregnancy. Here's a serious question because it is network TV in 2025: Can you actual show a character having an abortion? I don't mean seeing the medical procedure on screen in exacting graphic detail, more like you see her in the waiting room or the office, and then it cuts to commercial. The next time you see her she's resting at home or something. Could you actually have that happen? Personally, I'm thinking it's going to be a miscarriage very early in the pregnancy. 2 hours ago, marceline said: I'm assuming Angie will lose the baby. That's what I think too. 2 hours ago, marceline said: I need someone to lay out for me how this sheriff ended up crossing paths with Lucy. He was in Atlanta for some reason and hired Lucy for her services. @Badsamaritan lays out multiple plausible scenarios in more detail. The sheriff is still in Georgia. Granted, it's not a tiny state, but Atlanta is a major city/hub, so him spending some time there for one reason or another is not totally implausible or out of the question. 1 hour ago, Badsamaritan said: 1. 35 years ago (or however old Wilbur is), he attended a law enforcement gathering in Atlanta. Lucy and her fellow prostitutes were working the event (as is very often the case), and the sheriff chose her. Wham bam thank you ma'am, here's Wilbur. 2. 35 years ago, before he decided to go into law enforcement, the sheriff was a young man kicking around the big city, got horny, then got Lucy. Same result. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655444
marceline Wednesday at 05:59 PM Share Wednesday at 05:59 PM 2 hours ago, seacliffsal said: I think Amanda really hindered Will's ability to investigate the initial murders due to not allowing him to shower and dress. That was one of two things Amanda did that really worked my nerves. Let Will at least shower and change. The extra hour wouldn't have made a difference and maybe they would've reacted better to the cat. The second time was when Pete asked Amanda to speak with her privately and she acted like that was some unrealistic request. Gosh Amanda, maybe if the coroner asks to speak with you in private there might be a good reason for that. 11 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655445
marceline Wednesday at 06:07 PM Share Wednesday at 06:07 PM 6 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said: Here's a serious question because it is network TV in 2025: Can you actual show a character having an abortion? I don't mean seeing the medical procedure on screen in exacting graphic detail, more like you see her in the waiting room or the office, and then it cuts to commercial. The next time you see her she's resting at home or something. Could you actually have that happen? Numerous Shonda Rimes shows have portrayed an abortion. Just off the top of my head I remember Grey's and Scandal showing characters getting abortions. I remember seeing Olivia Pope on the procedure table. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655451
SharonH58 Wednesday at 06:25 PM Share Wednesday at 06:25 PM To me this episode was a mess. Amanda sending Will and Faith to another place when he's sweaty for jogging and they both have causal clothes on? No. The way the crime scene was screwed up. No. Oh my, the odds that this guy is Will's father? Angie pregnant? With her drunken past you would think she would be on birth control and practice safe sex. A person who is cooking up a bio weapon and 3 main characters just happened to be there?? Well Dr Seth is everywhere in the hospital and PLOT. I like cases that are more than 1 episode but not this one. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655462
tennisgurl Wednesday at 06:51 PM Share Wednesday at 06:51 PM I am too traumatized from a certain other network shows recent biohazard story to deal with this, although I do have a lot more faith in this show not to make me want to punch my screen. I swear, if something happens to Betty, we riot. That episode took so many turns, I did not even consider the sheriff being Will's dad, although as soon as we found out I couldn't stop looking at how similar they are, in looks and mannerisms. This is a big shakeup for the show, where does this leave Will, now meeting his biological father? He didn't make the best first impression, but he isn't a serial killer at least. You would think that Ormewood would use his insurance from his current job, but maybe the VA has better benefits? I loved the double "thank you for your services" as he keeps having to jump through hoops at the VA, I like that they brought up the lack of support for veterans that many people deal with, despite the many empty words of appreciation, with both Ormewood and the unhoused veteran who ends up being a victim of so called patriots, without giving us a lecture. Amanda losing her shit on Will and Faith was hysterical, those descriptions of fruit baskets were certainly getting detailed, but its also on Amanda for not letting Will change into his suit, that really got things off on the wrong foot with the local sheriff. Amanda of all people should know how important an outfit is. Will and Ormewood making up the conversation between Amanda and Pete too cute, and with faith and Angie laughing and rolling their eyes, it was such a nice little moment of everyone just being friends. Please, lets not start killing people! I am confident that Nico and Betty will be alright, although this is going to be a pretty traumatic experience for our favorite doggie and dog sitter, but I am very concerned about Ormewood and Dr. Seth. Ormewood I could see trying to do something reckless because he's already sick, and Dr. Seth is just so perfect and awesome, I worry that they'll kill him off just as they dangle the idea of a happy relationship and a baby in front of Angie just for maximum angst. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655480
Atlanta Wednesday at 07:46 PM Share Wednesday at 07:46 PM (edited) The VA scenes drove me NUTS! I've taken my dad to many, many VA appointments and he was never treated like that. And def no "thank you for your service" tripe. And why isn't he using his health insurance from the APD? Spoiler Perhaps Angie has "Emma" rather than Faith? As someone else said, how can a poisoned sandwich go airborne and poison those in proximity? Edited Wednesday at 07:47 PM by Atlanta 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655515
statsgirl Wednesday at 08:48 PM Share Wednesday at 08:48 PM 15 hours ago, possibilities said: I found it hard to believe that Hostile Sheriff becamse Loving Dad so quickly. I really didn't like him at all, so I also felt bad for Will. My assumption immediately was that he either raped or was a client of Will's mom. But if that was the case, would he have been so quick to soften toward Will? The sheriff seems to not to have any children of his own, and he was a second father to Beau (murdered son of his friend). He's older now and might be glad of having a surprise son when he thought that he would die childless. I liked the scene with the banana bread neighbour; for all that Amanda implied that he is racist, it showed that he isn't. 10 hours ago, DEL901 said: I think it is also a call back to season 1 (or 2?) when they showed how young Will stole a car to drive young Angie to get an abortion after she was raped by foster dad. This time the dad is a good guy, but she still doesn’t feel equipped to be a mom. I wonder if she’ll but him out of the process and get Will to drive her again? I hope that she doesn't. Will drove her when she was a teenager and had been raped. Now she's an adult and in a consenting relationship. It would be wrong to leave Seth out of it. 5 hours ago, agathapenny said: I think it's more likely that Dr. Seth dies and Angie decides she can't do it on her own and gets an abortion, or somehow has a miscarriage. I just don't see, unless the actor is pregnant, the show wanting to go through the inconvenience of writing in a pregnancy. Next episode is the last of the season so it would be easy to do enough of a time jump to have the baby already born by the start of the next season. I understand that the VA scenes may have been over the top but they were needed 1. so that Nico could meet the homeless vet and be involved in getting the bioweapon to Dr. Seth's hospital and 2. were they really that OTT? From the people I've talked to, getting proper care can be a real problem. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655552
Badsamaritan Wednesday at 09:30 PM Share Wednesday at 09:30 PM I don't know why I had convinced myself that Angie couldn't get pregnant. 24 hours earlier in show time, Angie was a drunken mess on the bathroom floor of a bar, having just flushed her awful mother's ashes down a communal toilet. This is NOT a woman I want to see pregnant with ANYTHING, even a damn pause. I actually liked the opening scene. These folks are not just coworkers, they are his family. For me, that was the entire theme of this episode, really. Even with the dumbass decision to have Angie get knocked up, it was really about family. Blood and chosen. From Faith and Nico acting like work-your-nerves siblings, to Amanda sending the kids out on an errand that had to happen RIGHT NOW, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW YOU DRESSED, JUST GET THERE, to the comical, biological setup of "Will, I Am Your Father", to Faith's lovely (but completely ridiculous because c'mon, Angie as a mother? Angie??) bathroom pep talk, to Amanda letting the sheriff know who the Head Sheriff of Will is, to Will and sheriff dad's 5 stage wall repair. All of it was about family. Wilbur's family. I forgot to mention, even though he was mostly wrong, the sheriff's deputy was fun recounting his version of events. Including the comments about his dead coworker. He was so upbeat and enthusiastic. I hope we see him again. Not everyone gets the 'good' VA office. Ormewood's surgery is going to be ridiculously expensive. He could be carrying his VA benefits to use as his secondary payment for the procedure and all its associated costs, in order to keep his out of pocket expenses lower. In essence, he has 2 insurance carriers, one through work and one through the VA that he earned. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655578
dleighg Wednesday at 09:36 PM Share Wednesday at 09:36 PM 6 hours ago, fishcakes said: Angie and every other woman in Georgia or any other state should be able to get reproductive health care where they live yeah that line about "I can take you to a meeting, or I can take you to North Carolina" really hit me. It's no longer just a difficult situation that a woman needs to grapple with, it's now a logistical problem that needs to be solved (sometimes very quickly). She's "lucky" that it's only NC; some women are many, many states and miles separated from care. 7 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655583
statsgirl Wednesday at 09:45 PM Share Wednesday at 09:45 PM (edited) Erika Christensen (Angie) directed this episode. She also directed ep 3x13 with the fabulous Last Dance sequence. I hope she gets the career that she wants because she is good. Ironically, I heard a talk today on how to survive a toxic parents. Too bad Angie couldn't hear it too. Edited Wednesday at 09:50 PM by statsgirl 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655588
DEL901 Wednesday at 09:59 PM Share Wednesday at 09:59 PM I admit to being worried about Betty. Several times this season there have been remarks about her age. Although, hopefully this pathogen won’t/can’t species hop. Poor Ormwood and the VA. It is possible that since he has the two insurance plans, that he has to go through the VA first and only then will his work insurance kick in on any uncovered expenses. I can’t see Angie having a baby. My theory is that Dr. Seth dies and the trauma causes her to miscarry. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655599
DearEvette Wednesday at 10:13 PM Share Wednesday at 10:13 PM Will and Ormewood imagining and dialoguing a steamy tryst between Pete and Amanda was almost worth the entire episode to me. As was the gym guy having a one-sided bromance with Ormewood's torque power and supplement intake. I liked everything about the episode, even the 'what are the odds' reveal about Will's dad up until the plot-gods intervened and put Nico, Betty and Ormewood in that hospital. The road there was not organic at all. You could all but see the neon the show was putting up to direct everything there. It felt clumsy. But like I said,the rest of the episode more than made up for it. I really liked th crime scene shenanigans. That was a nice piece of scene-work imo, between all the actors, the camera cuts and the quick fire dialogue + some humor. I recognize the actor who plays Will's father as the guy who played the tortured Preacher who turned into tiger on Midnight, Texas... a show whose first season was really fantastic (yeah, I said it!). And yeah, the actor is only about 15 years older than Ramon Rodriguez (according to Google) but Sonja Sohn is only 16 years older. So they are aging Amanda and Sherrif Broussard up. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655606
marceline Wednesday at 10:17 PM Share Wednesday at 10:17 PM 4 hours ago, Sarah 103 said: I'm going with client. She might not have known who the father was and therefore would not have told him. He does not hold it against her, so he would also not hold it against Will. This is why I said I want the details of how the sheriff met Lucy. His emotional shift with Will makes me wonder about the circumstances. I want him to lay out how he met Lucy. Not just for Will but for Uncle Antonio too. I confess that this episode made me want to learn more about Lucy because I still want to know how Will’s mom ended up out here alone and on the streets. I also want to know if the Sheriff has other descendants of dalliances walking around out here. Will could have half-siblings all over the place. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153327-s03e17-why-hello-sheriff/#findComment-8655615
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