S37.E09: The Pizza de Résistance

[chitowngirl]

The teams travel to Naples, Italy, where they must perfect their pizza-making skills.
 

Airdate April 30, 2025 on CBS.

[Rodney]

More tasks than ever before, I see.  Common of the show since they moved to ninety-minute episodes to increase the number of tasks once the teams dwindle down.

I liked the Detour, and the shopping task looked fun, with the chance of language barriers screwing things up.  The Roadblock was a good equalizer to offer up the chance for teams to pass each other.

Of course, one team who wouldn't get that chance was Han & Holden, who got lost early on after the first funicular and, unlike the other lost team, Jonathan & Ana, couldn't get it together in time to fight their way out of it.  They were last the entire leg after that.

But we got the first NEL in a long time, which was a very lucky break for them!

In other news, Jonathan was actually tolerable tonight.  He was very nice to, and supportive of, Ana, kept his patience with her, and they won their first leg in a while!  Congrats to them!

. . . And then, we see the preview of him slipping back into old habits next week.

Still, a good leg.

[dancingdreamer]

Jonathan was well behaved this leg, heck ,he was even helpful towards Ana.. 
I love Carson and Jack, I'd love them to win. It was so funny Jack got to eat the rejected pizzas from Carson.lol
I thought this was a' keep on racing' leg, but it was a NEL. Lucky for Han and Holden!

[dmeets]

37 minutes ago, Rodney said:

In other news, Jonathan was actually tolerable tonight.  He was very nice to, and supportive of, Ana, kept his patience with her, and they won their first leg in a while!  Congrats to them!

. . . And then, we see the preview of him slipping back into old habits next week

He’s only tolerable when he’s winning. So he gets zero credit from me for that.

[Rodney]

3 minutes ago, dmeets said:

He’s only tolerable when he’s winning.

Most of the time, I agree.  But he was even calm tonight when they fell behind, which was something different from him.

[kav]

I will never judge Johnathan for any behavior because much of it, he can not totally control because of the way his brain works and is wired in stressful situations.  We know some of his behaviors were confusing and hard to understand even for them to understand.  His behaviors and reactions are different, but there is a reason for that.

[bunnyface]

The shopping task was cool.  My brother was stationed in Turkey and described a similar system.  They said a vendor selling whatever would come down the street and if you wanted what he was selling, you would lower a basket with money in it and the vendor would put the goods in the basket and you would haul it up.  Saved going up and down to a 5th floor walk up with 2 little kids.  Even though he described it well, I had a hard time really visualizing it until I saw it here.

[kitkat343]

They did let the racers eat the pizza they made after they brought it to the pit stop, right?  Because otherwise it would just be too sad.  I also really loved the pizza maker, and thought it was nice to see him give specific criticism to the racers so they learned how to make good pizza.

Edited Thursday at 08:20 AM by kitkat343

[Fake Jan Brady]

I'm so hungry!

Naples is a very beautiful city [made even prettier by Brett running around in a singlet and shorts the entire leg].

The mandolin task seemed a lot faster than mozzarella - was that due to Jonathan's self-proclaimed expertise or just down to the fact he simply had to screw a few things together?

Carson was not exaggerating about his lack of cooking skills.

I was moved by Han's stress over being the eldest sibling. 😢

[Haleth]

What a fun leg!  I laughed at Han and Holden having the same difficulty braiding the mozzarella as they did with the origami. They probably should have gone with the mandolin that was more straight forward. But at least they got to dance with Phil on the mat. But Phil didn’t mention a penalty for coming in last. Have they done away with that?

[Samwise979]

Loved Josiah carrying the pizza under his arm instead of holding the box flat like everyone else 😂 that must have been one smooshed pizza!

[mojoween]

Alyssa’s speculative “knock on wood that none of that happens” after describing a litany of things that could cause her to use the Express Pass and Jack saying he hoped Han and Holden weren’t there and then turning around and wondering “are they here?” were both so cute.

The red-aproned pizza guy looked like he had no use for these terrible chefs.

The non-elim surprised me, but now I know why we focused so much on Han and Holden when they were so far back.

[iMonrey]

8 hours ago, kitkat343 said:

They did let the racers eat the pizza they made after they brought it to the pit stop, right?

The pizzas they brought to the pitstop were for the band that was playing behind Phil. 

This was a pretty good leg overall because there was a lot of running around trying to find various locations which shook up placements more than once. Han and Holden and Jonathan and Ana got an early lead getting on the first funicular then fell behind the other three teams because they couldn't find the nose-rubbing thing.

BTW, hilarious shot of a bystander as teams ran past her looking for it. She looked straight at the camera like WTF? I honestly don't get how they have time to stop and get waivers signed from all the people they pass in crowded streets. They'd be there all day. I think people out in a public place like that are probably just fair game, although we do see blurred faces from time to time. I honestly don't know how it works.

Why was the mozzarella cheese braided? I've never seen or bought or heard of braided cheese before. It's not bread.

[Fukui San]

I can find braided mozzarella in my store's fancy cheese section. It's a thing. Doesn't change the taste at all or anything.

Ana with the free Domino's verbal product placement. Hey kids! Apply to Domino's today!

I do have to try making dough how they did it on the show, rather than using a rolling pin. Between this and the last Top Chef episode, I now have pointers to hone my technique.

If Alyssa truly would wait for Han and Holden to pass her before she'd consider using the Express Pass it would be too late. 

[Shrek]

22 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

 

BTW, hilarious shot of a bystander as teams ran past her looking for it. She looked straight at the camera like WTF? I honestly don't get how they have time to stop and get waivers signed from all the people they pass in crowded streets. They'd be there all day. I think people out in a public place like that are probably just fair game, although we do see blurred faces from time to time. I honestly don't know how it works.

 

I'm thinking they only get anything signed by people who do not want their identity to be shown for whatever reason rather than everyone. Maybe they're somewhere they shouldn't be or are with someone they shouldn't be with but most wouldn't care one way or another. I'm sure that every country has different rules regarding the public & filming people in public.

 

 

[seacliffsal]

Oh, I felt the pain of the pizza maker who looked worried that they would damage the inside of the pizza oven (especially when he stopped one person from even putting theirs in).  The pizza looked so good!  And, I've had pizza in Italy and it is so good (I think their flour is different from ours in the U.S.).

Looked all of the sights we saw.  Sigh.  Love Italy, but doubt I'll go back (am old and have a hard time walking...).  Ah, but I have memories...

One of Carson/Jack said of the passerbyers who helped them that 'people don't know their directions.'  Here's the thing-it's not up to the passerbyers to know their directions or help you.  I think they wait too long before asking for directions.

Was surprised it was a NEL.  We're almost to the end and I'm ashamed to admit that I don't know everyone's name yet (but, again, as previously mentioned, I'm old...).

[eel2178]

2 hours ago, Fukui San said:

Ana with the free Domino's verbal product placement. Hey kids! Apply to Domino's today!

I thought comparing Domino's to artisan pizza in Naples qualified as an Ugly American thing. That was plenty rude.

[RunningMarket]

3 minutes ago, eel2178 said:

I thought comparing Domino's to artisan pizza in Naples qualified as an Ugly American thing. That was plenty rude.

I never took it as comparing the actual pizza - she was comparing the ability to make the pizza. She had experience, which definitely helped.

[eel2178]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I honestly don't get how they have time to stop and get waivers signed from all the people they pass in crowded streets. They'd be there all day. I think people out in a public place like that are probably just fair game, although we do see blurred faces from time to time. I honestly don't know how it works.

In public places, they post signs that say being in the area is "presumed consent," and if they don't want to be photographed, they need to stay out of the designated area. That is probably what they do with anyone who doesn't have a direct interaction with the racers or the crew.

Those who do interact with the contestants are the ones who have to actually sign a consent.

[Quilt Fairy]

1 minute ago, eel2178 said:

I thought comparing Domino's to artisan pizza in Naples qualified as an Ugly American thing. That was plenty rude.

I didn't hear her comparing the two, just that her experience at Domino's taught her some tricks of the trade (like flouring the pizza shovel) that helped her finish first.  And as much as I dislike her husband, props to them for running a good leg.  They deserved their first place. 

[Skooma]

16 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I love Carson and Jack, I'd love them to win. It was so funny Jack got to eat the rejected pizzas from Carson.lol

Me too.  I've been Team Green Shirts from the beginning because they are gamers.  I never played D&D but I certainly am into RPG's both stand alones (Elder Scrolls: Oblivion rocks!) and online in the past (original Guild Wars).  Go, Gamers!

16 hours ago, kav said:

I will never judge Johnathan for any behavior because much of it, he can not totally control because of the way his brain works and is wired in stressful situations.  We know some of his behaviors were confusing and hard to understand even for them to understand.  His behaviors and reactions are different, but there is a reason for that.

No brain is "wired" to be rude and cruel.  Plenty of other people have their brain "wired" that way and they aren't rude or cruel.  So no, there is no excuse for his actions.

3 hours ago, iMonrey said:

BTW, hilarious shot of a bystander as teams ran past her looking for it. She looked straight at the camera like WTF? I honestly don't get how they have time to stop and get waivers signed from all the people they pass in crowded streets. ...

They don't.  The waivers are for permission to use the image of people the Racers directly talk to and interact with. 

If a person in a crowd scene is blurred they would have had to have been proactive and come up and told the Camera Crew something along the lines of "Hey I don't want my face shown on TV."

2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

One of Carson/Jack said of the passerbyers who helped them that 'people don't know their directions.'  Here's the thing-it's not up to the passerbyers to know their directions or help you.  I think they wait too long before asking for directions.

That's the dilemma.  If they ask directions they have to go through the time consuming process of getting the person to sign the waiver to give permission for their image to be shown.  

The audio guy usually has to explain all this and why they need to sign it.  And if they say they will give directions but don't want to sign then audio guy has to explain that they could blur their face instead and is that okay.

So do you spend precious minutes in a Race doing this every time you get somewhat confused and semi-lost or do you think you can self-correct faster.

1 hour ago, eel2178 said:

I thought comparing Domino's to artisan pizza in Naples qualified as an Ugly American thing. That was plenty rude.

Not even remotely an ugly American thing.  She never said Domino's was better.  Just that she had dealt with tons of crusts and knew the flour trick.  And even if she somehow liked Domino's better that still would be just her opinion and not something "ugly."  Just totally crazy, lol.

[kav]

6 hours ago, Skooma said:

23 hours ago, kav said:

I will never judge Johnathan for any behavior because much of it, he can not totally control because of the way his brain works and is wired in stressful situations.  We know some of his behaviors were confusing and hard to understand even for them to understand.  His behaviors and reactions are different, but there is a reason for that.

No brain is "wired" to be rude and cruel.  Plenty of other people have their brain "wired" that way and they aren't rude or cruel.  So no, there is no excuse for his actions.

What some people see "as rude and cruel" is an opinion, not a fact. Johnathan has said he did not understand his behavior on the show and a lot made sense after he came home and was diagnosed as being on the Autism Spectrum like Eva from Survivor is.

Edited Yest. at 03:41 AM by kav

[meep.meep]

Wrong show dude.

Do you know that Jonathan is autistic?

 

[Skooma]

4 minutes ago, kav said:

What you are some people see "as rude and cruel" is an opinion, not a fact. I am sorry that you see the way Eva is able to communicate because OF SOMETHING SHE CAN NOT CONTROL as rude and cruel, it is just how she does it in a different and unique way than people whom are not on the spectrum.  Star has someone in  her life on the Spectrum, she understands Eva might communicate in a way that might seem rude or cruel to the some people.

Huh?  Eva?  If that is the Survivor woman?  I never said anything negative about her since she has never been cruel.

And nobody else on the spectrum I've ever seen on TV or on other media has ever been rude or cruel like Jonathan.  So no, he has no excuse for his behavior.  Period.

Edited Thursday at 09:30 PM by Skooma

[kav]

4 hours ago, Shrek said:

I'm thinking they only get anything signed by people who do not want their identity to be shown for whatever reason rather than everyone. Maybe they're somewhere they shouldn't be or are with someone they shouldn't be with but most wouldn't care one way or another. I'm sure that every country has different rules regarding the public & filming people in public.

 

 

Before they are able to talk to someone for directions, the person needs to sign something from producers.

23 minutes ago, meep.meep said:

Wrong show dude.

Do you know that Jonathan is autistic?

 

Yes, I do, Johnathan himself explained it on his podcast a few weeks ago that he was diagnosed after the show was filmed and it helped explain and help him understand a lot of his behavior from the show that even he himself did not understand the why he acted the way he did in stressful information.

 

PS. I edited my above post to the Amazing Race, but most of what I had said apply for the same reason for Johnathan as Eva.

 

"And nobody else on the spectrum I've ever seen on TV or on other media has ever been rude or cruel like Jonathan.  So no, he has no excuse for his behavior.  Period."

 

The TV and Media is a very small piece of a persons life.  Until you have real life experience of someone on the Spectrum, you can not truly understand how their condition affects their behavior and the way it can look to many neurotypical people.  It is insulting to him as a person to say that he has no excuse for his behavior and can be very demoralizing to read stuff like that.  His brain works differently than neurotypical people and under stressful situations he might react in unexpected ways.

Edited Thursday at 09:57 PM by kav

[chaifan]

Maybe I'm at a table for one here, but I didn't like this leg.  I felt that the "challenges" just weren't that challenging, especially compared to the last few legs.  I felt that nothing was really that hard, nothing that could really shake up the order that much.  Yes, Carson got caught up on the pizzas, but it was still relatively quick between tries and the judge let them know exactly what the problem was. So it seemed something that was relatively easy to self correct on.  Han & Holden got behind mostly because they kept running in the wrong direction.  But 4 out of 5 teams were pretty much one cluster for most of the leg.

No self navigation, either.  I wonder why they had the marked cars and drivers, instead of having the racers get there by public transport or taxi?  It just seemed too spoonfed, and I was bored with most of the episode.

One thing that wasn't clear on the grocery run...  they all ended up at the same vendors, but it didn't seem like they were instructed to go to those particular vendors.  No one seemed to be searching for an address or marked signs, Han & Holden certainly didn't have a clue where to go after the produce.  So how did they all end up at the same places?  There have to be more than just those 3 stores in that area.

I'm glad Han & Holden got spared.  Han was a bit over the top very early on in this episode, but they both got on track and were much better with each other.  I loved that they got Phil to join in on their happy dance, jumping up and down.  That was really cute.

 

 

 

[tkc]

Wow, a NEL!

As Josiah might say, "The siblings are just barely Holden on. I hope they can Han in there!"

Anyone else want that pizza? I actually found the restaurant on Google Maps!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1yS9NKjg732Ghq9m6

[Quilt Fairy]

1 hour ago, chaifan said:

No self navigation, either.  I wonder why they had the marked cars and drivers, instead of having the racers get there by public transport or taxi?

No self-driving, but plenty of running around trying to find places and getting lost in the bargain.  They mentioned that they were in the old town, so lots of streets that aren't wide enough for cars. 

[susannot]

LOVED the episode.  I'm with Ana: "I'm in Naples, making pizza!"

[susannot]

I was amazed that racers (Han and Holden, cough cough) could not figure out the meaning of panelle.  Haven't they ever heard of Panera?  PAN means bread.

[eel2178]

13 minutes ago, susannot said:

I was amazed that racers (Han and Holden, cough cough) could not figure out the meaning of panelle.  Haven't they ever heard of Panera?  PAN means bread.

or panzanella salad

[iMonrey]

5 hours ago, kav said:

What some people see "as rude and cruel" is an opinion, not a fact. Johnathan has said he did not understand he behavior on the show and a lot made sense after he came home and was diagnosed as being on the Autism Spectrum like Eva from Survivor is.

Both Jonathan and Eva have proven that having autism doesn't make you a nice person. We've witnessed their behavior towards others, so it's more of an observation than an opinion.

If you think that's too harsh, then guess what? I've just been diagnosed with autism, so you dare not criticize me. It's my get out jail free card. 

4 hours ago, chaifan said:

No self navigation, either.

Running around trying to find locations is the very definition of self navigation. 

[Red Bridey]

1 hour ago, susannot said:

I was amazed that racers (Han and Holden, cough cough) could not figure out the meaning of panelle.  Haven't they ever heard of Panera?  PAN means bread.

Han was trying out French on a shopkeeper. Pain is French for bread. I just think they start panicking and their thought processes fly out of their brains. It's weird because sometimes they are both extremely competent and other times they just fall apart.

[SVNBob]

23 hours ago, kitkat343 said:

They did let the racers eat the pizza they made after they brought it to the pit stop, right? 

As was noted, Phil quipped that the pizzas were for the band at the Pit Stop.  And since there were 5 pizzas eventually delivered, that does feel like enough for everyone to get a slice.

Plus all the non-Roadblockers except Holden got to eat some of the failed attempts, so those weren't a total loss either.

And while I'm not sure, I'd wager that the remaining failed attempts that didn't get eaten by Mark and the 3 Js were grabbed by the crew.   So very little waste.

 

On 4/30/2025 at 9:04 PM, Thalia said:

Who are you, and what did you do with Jonathan?   The Jonathan who is working on the mandolin task is easy going and supportive.  

That particular task fit well with an interest of his (stringed instruments) and then-undiagnosed autism.  It was a task he could hyper-focus on his portion of, without having to think about anything relating to Ana, other than not doing her part of the task too.

 

From the Live Thread:

On 4/30/2025 at 9:51 PM, iMonrey said:

If it were TBC he would have told them to keep racing. I think.

That was one possibility for the twist of the leg.  When they'd hit the Roadblock and the announcement of the Pit Stop without encountering the twist, it had to be either KOR or NEL.  And I thought of them in that order.

Spoiler

And next week's twist looks to be the return of the Head-to-Head instead of (or possibly in addition to) the return of the Speed Bump.

 

12 hours ago, eel2178 said:

In public places, they post signs that say being in the area is "presumed consent," and if they don't want to be photographed, they need to stay out of the designated area.

I've personally dealt with one of those, and it was tangentially TAR-related.

One year, when returning home from a TARCon, I had to change flights at O'Hare.  At the time, there was one of those workplace reality shows that dealt with airport personnel (specifically with one airline) and "misbehaving customers".  There was one of these signs at one of the gates near where I had to be (not my exact gate) saying that passing beyond the sign gave permission for them to use any footage of you they recorded for that specific show.  However, said gate appeared to be not in use at the time I was there.  Nevertheless, I still didn't cross past the sign.

 

 

 

 

Edited Yest. at 07:32 AM by SVNBob

[Shrek]

15 hours ago, kav said:

Before they are able to talk to someone for directions, the person needs to sign something from producers.

 

So you're telling me that every person on a train/plane/funicular etc. has to sign a waiver & that is the case in every country? I doubt that every country has the same laws, but I could be convinced that this is the case, maybe, if it is shown as such. Otherwise, I remain unconvinced that this is in fact a fact rather than just hearsay. You don't even have the right to privacy when out in public in the USofA never mind every country they visit.

If you're just talking about people they talk to then I could certainly be convinced otherwise but I would think only in some countries & not all. 

[proserpina65]

On 5/1/2025 at 12:26 AM, kav said:

I will never judge Johnathan for any behavior because much of it, he can not totally control because of the way his brain works and is wired in stressful situations.  We know some of his behaviors were confusing and hard to understand even for them to understand.  His behaviors and reactions are different, but there is a reason for that.

I fully believe he can control it WHEN he wants to do so.  So he gets no breaks from me.

On 5/1/2025 at 7:07 AM, Haleth said:

But Phil didn’t mention a penalty for coming in last. Have they done away with that?

I wondered about that too.  I hope there's an extra task or some kind of time penalty at the beginning of the next leg.  But no begging for money, please!

22 hours ago, iMonrey said:

The pizzas they brought to the pitstop were for the band that was playing behind Phil. 

Yeah, Phil definitely made it sound that way.

22 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Why was the mozzarella cheese braided? I've never seen or bought or heard of braided cheese before. It's not bread.

It's actually quite common in Italy, and there are plenty of brands of braided mozzarella you can get here in the US as well.  I've seen it in grocery stores in my little semi-rural corner of Maryland.

19 hours ago, eel2178 said:

I thought comparing Domino's to artisan pizza in Naples qualified as an Ugly American thing. That was plenty rude.

She wasn't comparing the two.  She was just saying that having worked at a Domino's gave her experience at making pizza in general and she applied that to the one she had to make on AR.

17 hours ago, kav said:

What some people see "as rude and cruel" is an opinion, not a fact. Johnathan has said he did not understand his behavior on the show and a lot made sense after he came home and was diagnosed as being on the Autism Spectrum like Eva from Survivor is.

Even people with autism can learn to control their behavior to a certain extent.  They are not rude and cruel in general.  Jonathan HAS been rude and cruel on this Race.  No excuse for it.

12 hours ago, susannot said:

I was amazed that racers (Han and Holden, cough cough) could not figure out the meaning of panelle.  Haven't they ever heard of Panera?  PAN means bread.

At least one of them speaks some French, so I would've expected them to make the connection to "pain", which is French for bread.

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

If you're just talking about people they talk to then I could certainly be convinced otherwise but I would think only in some countries & not all. 

It is just the people to whom the Racers talk, and yes, it is in every country from what Racers in previous years have said.

 

[Shrek]

6 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

 

It is just the people to whom the Racers talk, and yes, it is in every country from what Racers in previous years have said.

 

While it does make more sense to be just the people they talk to it would mean that every team has to have an interpreter with them at all times just in case, as well as forms in whatever language is used wherever they are at all times & no matter the time. Besides anything else this would make the costs involved outrageous & when they're driving the interpreter would also need to be with them in case they get lost & have to ask for directions & that's without the law in every country having to be the same as it is in the USA.

Possible but very unlikely in my opinion. Still, an interesting discussion to have, especially expecting every country to have the same laws regarding these things as the USofA which is the part I'm hung up on more than anything else, I get that the President thinks this way though. Even in the USA you have no right to privacy when out in public anyway because if you did every person on every social media platform would be out there suing everyone else the second anything with them on it turned up. 

 

[iMonrey]

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

You don't even have the right to privacy when out in public in the USofA never mind every country they visit.

Yeah I was thinking about this because we're pretty much being recorded 24/7 by surveillance cameras everywhere we go. So when the Racers are just running around in public places and we see people in the background (or like that lady who hilariously turned around and looked at the camera like WTF?) there is apparently no need to get them all to sign waivers because they are out in a public place. 

But we do see blurred faces from time to time so it seems like a very complicated issue. I don't think it's as simple as "only people the Racers interact with" because occasionally those blurred faces are in the background and not interacting.

I'd love to hear the producers weigh in on this.

Edited 23 hours ago by iMonrey

[proserpina65]

49 minutes ago, Shrek said:

While it does make more sense to be just the people they talk to it would mean that every team has to have an interpreter with them at all times just in case, as well as forms in whatever language is used wherever they are at all times & no matter the time. Besides anything else this would make the costs involved outrageous & when they're driving the interpreter would also need to be with them in case they get lost & have to ask for directions & that's without the law in every country having to be the same as it is in the USA.

Possible but very unlikely in my opinion. Still, an interesting discussion to have, especially expecting every country to have the same laws regarding these things as the USofA which is the part I'm hung up on more than anything else, I get that the President thinks this way though. Even in the USA you have no right to privacy when out in public anyway because if you did every person on every social media platform would be out there suing everyone else the second anything with them on it turned up. 

 

Racers have said they have to do this.  I'll take them at their word.

[Shrek]

37 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

Racers have said they have to do this.  I'll take them at their word.

They can say whatever they're asked to say but I would love to know the ins & outs of how that is carried out in every country the show has ever been to & in every language, surely not every country has the same laws. I mean Katy Perry says she's an astronaut but that doesn't make her one. 

I would love to take this to the small talk thread but that is more like a personal blog than small talk, which is fine, I just find it difficult to keep track there so I'll leave it at agreeing to disagree.

[shura]

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

While it does make more sense to be just the people they talk to it would mean that every team has to have an interpreter with them at all times just in case, as well as forms in whatever language is used wherever they are at all times & no matter the time. Besides anything else this would make the costs involved outrageous & when they're driving the interpreter would also need to be with them in case they get lost & have to ask for directions & that's without the law in every country having to be the same as it is in the USA.

They don’t need an interpreter, only a stack of forms in the local language saying “You are being filmed for a TV show. Check here if you agree to be shown on TV, check here if you don’t, and sign.”  See #19 here, for example.

[Me from ME]

33 minutes ago, Shrek said:

And nobody else on the spectrum I've ever seen on TV or on other media has ever been rude or cruel like Jonathan.

But another racer named Jonathan was just as reprehensible to his wife (former playmate, Victoria Fuller). He was downright abusive during their season.

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I was amazed that racers (Han and Holden, cough cough) could not figure out the meaning of panelle.  Haven't they ever heard of Panera?  PAN means bread.

Especially since Han asked, "Parlez vous Francais" and "pain" is the word for bread and pronounced more like "pan".

[Shrek]

25 minutes ago, Me from ME said:

But another racer named Jonathan was just as reprehensible to his wife (former playmate, Victoria Fuller). He was downright abusive during their season.

Especially since Han asked, "Parlez vous Francais" and "pain" is the word for bread and pronounced more like "pan".

Where did I say such a thing please?

34 minutes ago, shura said:

They don’t need an interpreter, only a stack of forms in the local language saying “You are being filmed for a TV show. Check here if you agree to be shown on TV, check here if you don’t, and sign.”  See #19 here, for example.

Thanks, that makes more sense & I hadn't even thought of that. 

[proserpina65]

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

surely not every country has the same laws.

I doubt it has anything to do with local laws and a lot to do with CBS' standards and practices.  I've based my comments on things I've seen various contestants say in the past.  But I'm also not going to keep arguing the point, especially since shura offered an example of the possible process.

 

[Haleth]

I just saw a video posted by Phil showing him and the band eating the pizzas. They said they were good. 

[eel2178]

4 hours ago, shura said:

They don’t need an interpreter, only a stack of forms in the local language saying “You are being filmed for a TV show. Check here if you agree to be shown on TV, check here if you don’t, and sign.”  See #19 here, for example.

Still, production has to find a way to keep track of who signed which form.

[shura]

55 minutes ago, eel2178 said:

Still, production has to find a way to keep track of who signed which form.

This doesn’t have to be difficult - just film the guy filling out his form, for example, and it’s going to be on film right next to the relevant Race footage.  But yes, they definitely have to do much more than simply follow the teams with a camera.

[North of Eden]

Producers I have said it   before and will keep on saying it. Please dial back on post leg confessionals. Johnathan bon vivant demeanor or acting like a kid on Christmas was telegraphing their first-place win. For the love of God at least put a moratorium on them for the finale episode.

Phil didn't slip it past me that he didn't say "the last team to check in here will be eliminated" so I was hopeful for a Han and Holden save. From the moment they got lost of the funicular it seemed to guarantee a last place finish. I wonder if they still give you some sort of penalty for being saved by a non-elim. Just glad to see them as one of my posts a few episodes back was clamoring for their return.

Tonight I finally realized why a dislike Carson so much. EVERYTHING he does has to be over exaggerated. From hanging his mouth open wide enough to fly a 747 through upon hearing about the fire challenge, a bizarre facial expression during the pizza challenge to swinging his arms about as they leave the pit stop. Just tired of his clownish behavior and want him gone...next week please?

A pizza-oli? Wow imagine your whole life's work is built around making pizzas? The one in the red shirt didn't seem like he was feeling the whole thing.

[kav]

15 hours ago, Shrek said:

So you're telling me that every person on a train/plane/funicular etc. has to sign a waiver & that is the case in every country? I doubt that every country has the same laws, but I could be convinced that this is the case, maybe, if it is shown as such. Otherwise, I remain unconvinced that this is in fact a fact rather than just hearsay. You don't even have the right to privacy when out in public in the USofA never mind every country they visit.

If you're just talking about people they talk to then I could certainly be convinced otherwise but I would think only in some countries & not all. 

No, I am saying the ones they directly interact with/ the person has spoken words on the show.

13 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I fully believe he can control it WHEN he wants to do so.  So he gets no breaks from me.

I am sorry that you believe this to be the case, but you would be wrong.  The way the brain chooses to work from them is NOT controlled by the person on the spectrum, although I am sure they would love that to be the case a lot of the time.