Jump to content

Type keyword(s) to search

S07.E06: The Truck Stops Here


Recommended Posts

52 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

SERIES FINALE. Jackie prepares for a series of physical tests in an effort to rejoin the police force; Darlene confronts the insecurities in her marriage with Ben; Dan's deposition stirs up feelings; final farewells are made in true Conner family fashion.

Airdate April 23, 2025 on ABC, next day Hulu

tnanks

  • Like 2

"Hey, Grandma! I own your restaurant now. Food's finally good!" *Walks away* 

That and Dan's, "You'll be around to watch me die. She would've killed to see that!" both gave me a good laugh XD. 

I had a feeling that check wasn't going to be very big*. But I figured it would've been tough for them to get a big win on that front. I liked the ending, that whole goodbye scene was nice and genuinely got me a little emotional. Especially when Becky and Darlene said goodnight to Dan. 

It's been a good run. Wishing the cast well with whatever they go on to do next. 

*I actually find that bit with the check amusing because my mom told me about a dream she had once where we won the lottery...

...which was a whopping eight dollars. Even in our dreams we couldn't strike it rich XD. 

  • Like 13
  • LOL 5
  • Love 1

Um...wouldn't a settlement amount have to be agreed to? Not just "we're sending you a check for an unspecified amount"..."okay"?

The farewells at Roseanne's grave were sweet...in the Connor way, of course.

How little DJ was! They couldn't get Michael Fishman back for a goodbye?

I teared up a little at the flashbacks. Then Dan's little smile and "goodnight" got me.

This was never my favorite show (though I'm sure I've seen every episode, it's not something I'd make a point of watching in reruns), but I'm sadder than I expected to see it ending for good. I wasn't getting my hopes up but think they did good.

  • Like 17

I'm good with that ending. Mark is no longer hacking and acknowledged all that Darlene tried to do for him. Darlene and Ben are working it out. Becky and Dan finally found love again. DJ should have been there though, or at least they should have mentioned him, but he's probably happy with his wife and daughter so that's good too. Jackie being a cop again and not just a desk job is unrealistic, but I'm glad she got her happy ending too.

In this episode, some of John Goodman's acting, voice, and facial expressions reminded me so much of the Dan in the original series. I haven't seen it that much in the reboot but perhaps I missed those moments.

  • Like 9
13 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

I teared up a little at the flashbacks. Then Dan's little smile and "goodnight" got me.

Same. 

The writing was uneven, and the situations were terribly unrealistic (no way would Jackie be hired as a beat cop at this point), but it wasn't the worst show on TV right now.  I'm good with how they tied everything up in a neat bow, and the ending hit just the right beats.  

 

  • Like 15
(edited)

The writing has been uneven for the show but the ending wasn’t all that bad.  It ended in a good note for everyone.  Yes it is unrealistic that Jackie would be hired back as a uniformed cop but so what?   Let her have a happy ending and being a cop is her version of a happy ending.   I also kinda liked the talk Dan and Louise has about Dan and his true love.   The scene at the grave was nice.   The flashbacks were nice as well.    This will never be considered the best revival of a show and my major issue has always been it is too much poverty porn but I do like that everyone got some form of a happy ending.

Edited by Chaos Theory
  • Like 12
(edited)
25 minutes ago, Balboa said:

Very underwhelming finale. What exactly were the producers referring to when they said there was a scene in the finale that had never been done before on television?

The flashbacks really showed just how good the original series was. Will never forgive the writers for retconning so many storylines and characters.

Same very much the same I will never forgive the writers as well the ‘respect, and ‘honor’ they spoke of so many times to have for the original show never shown through it was like they would take a step towards honoring and back track the hell out of it and rewrite history of some of the beloved characters solely for their benefit. characterizations they did that I will always dislike because of this show is the butchering of Becky and  Jackie. They could have done and given David better remembrance even if Johnny couldn’t do the show. And Glenn loveable, down to earth was apart of the original they really dropped the ball with what they did to mark. And also forever stand by that Becky should have just stayed single and instead of Beverly rose they should have kept her and Mark’s baby from season 9. Anyways those are my gripes and will forever be my gripes with the show thank God it’s over 

Edited by Rocknrollzombie
  • Like 1
  • Applause 1
  • Love 1
1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

Um...wouldn't a settlement amount have to be agreed to? Not just "we're sending you a check for an unspecified amount"..."okay"?

Yes.  Dan could always reject the check and continue the suit.  I wasn't expecting a huge amount, but I thought the $700.00 was just a slap in the face.  That's not even nuisance value. 

I liked the moment between Louise and Dan.  They had an adult conversation where Louise was very vulnerable, but Dan said the right things and they moved past it. 

I did think the final good nights were sweet, and that was a good way to end things.   

  • Like 9

They couldn't afford Jane Lynch for one last episode?  But we have to suffer this Seth Green character again?  Darlene and Ben could have had this same conversation without actually seeing that dude on screen.  "Compared to my previous husband, you're Barack Obama" and "Why would I text someone I'm lying next to in bed?" did make me laugh.  Harris's new boyfriend being included was utterly pointless, though.

Yes, Louise, Roseanne is the love of Dan's life.  Duh.  I don't know, her feelings are understandable, and I want to receive them that way, but I find myself annoyed with her.  But she said it right in that scene at the cemetery.

Dan's talk to Roseanne and the subsequent storm, with him asking her not to strike Louise with lightning amused me.

You have to agree to a settlement offer, or proceed to trial; they way they handled the check - with Dan not knowing how much it was for - was so damn stupid, but maybe, yeah, "on brand", as Neville said.  Whatever.

"It's not fair you did the hard part and aren't here to see that everything turned out okay.  Well, not for regular people, but for us."  Nicely played.

"No, Sir, she ate the exact right amount to maintain her weight."  LOL.

The actors clearly tearing up as themselves got me, I gotta say, for all my complaining.  And John as Dan's "Goodnight"?  Tears.

  • Like 13
  • Love 2
4 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Um...wouldn't a settlement amount have to be agreed to? Not just "we're sending you a check for an unspecified amount"..."okay"?

.

That is precisely what happens when you have competent counsel.  If your attorney doesn't show up because they couldn't pass a sobriety lock on their car, you are probably dealing with less competent counsel.  And honestly I have no idea what happens when lawyers who are working on contingency discover facts  during pretrial or trial that weaken the clients case and make a settlement necessary to avoid further trial costs borne by the lawyer working on contingency.  If a client refuses to settle a case that is unwinnable and the lawyer is working on contingency, I don't know if they can refuse to continue to force a client to settle.  

  • Like 4
11 hours ago, ams1001 said:

This was never my favorite show (though I'm sure I've seen every episode, it's not something I'd make a point of watching in reruns), but I'm sadder than I expected to see it ending for good.

Not my favorite show either, but it did cross my mind that this was probably the last time I'll ever see some of these actors.  Who knows what they'll do in their future career or if it will be something I'm interested in?  Considering I'm trying to cut back on my TV watching, probably not.

I thought the way the check was handled was unrealistic also.  Was the lawyer taking the case for free, I can't remember?  Because if not, it probably wouldn't even cover the legal bill.

I didn't really care for Jackie returning to the police force story, I just can't see her as a cop.  I don't know what the "novel moment" was.  Maybe they meant something that's never happened in this series before, instead of TV history.  Lots of shows have broken the fourth wall.  George Burns used to do it regularly on the Burns and Allen Show, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't even the first. 

I'm sure the tearful goodnights at the end weren't acting.  And I noticed they limited them to the members of the original Roseanne series.  It was nice they included the Roseanne character in the end, because whatever you may think of her, this show doesn't exist without her.

  • Like 15
  • Applause 1
8 hours ago, kitkat343 said:

If a client refuses to settle a case that is unwinnable and the lawyer is working on contingency, I don't know if they can refuse to continue to force a client to settle.  

Depending on how far the case has progressed, a lawyer can always resign their position as counsel.  It happens a lot when a client and lawyer disagree on strategy, or a situation where the relationship between lawyer and client has broken down.  Now if the case is on the eve of trial, a judge may not allow the resignation, but otherwise it's a normal practice. 

  • Like 3
3 hours ago, iarwain said:

  It was nice they included the Roseanne character in the end, because whatever you may think of her, this show doesn't exist without her.

I really like that they did this.  I identified so much with the original Roseanne character.  Some of my favourite moments from the original series involved her and while I'm glad the actress Roseanne wasn't able to torpedo this series the way she and her supporters may have hoped I am also glad the powers that be didn't take that out on her character.

  • Like 8
1 hour ago, Starchild said:

Perhaps the moments just before? I got the sense it wasn't the characters saying goodnight to each other, but the actors saying goodbye. Those emotions were real.

Yeahhhhhh, it got a little dusty in my living room for a minute!  IIRC, though, the lines right after "Did you ever know that you're my hero?" are where Becky and Darlene refer to each other as Bubble Butt and Morticia, respectively.  I would've loved if they kept that part of the clip.

I noticed that we never saw or even heard Roseanne in those clips; I'm betting there was something in the legal agreement between Barr and the show saying they could not use her voice or image.  That's a shame.

I feel the need to watch some old-school Roseanne now.

One final "Justice for DJ / Jerry / Andy!!!" and I'm out.  It's been fun, kids.

  • Like 10
3 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

pending on how far the case has progressed, a lawyer can always resign their position as counsel.  It happens a lot when a client and lawyer disagree on strategy, or a situation where the relationship between lawyer and client has broken down.  Now if the case is on the eve of trial, a judge may not allow the resignation, but otherwise it's a normal practice. 

ask my sister.  She was so unpleasant during her divorce TWO LAWERS quit on her.

 

  • Mind Blown 2
  • LOL 6

Even though I didn’t love this as much as the original, I’m sad to see this show go.  I grew up with these characters; Becky and Darlene were in my age range and my parents were around the same age as Dan and Roseanne.  I remember being excited when they announced the reboot and part of me is sad for what we didn’t get to see because of the controversy. 
 

I loved Dan’s reaction to the check.  I don’t think he ever cared about the money; he just wanted them to admit their part of the blame.  The scene at the cemetery was nice and I loved the throwaway line about Bev and Dan’s comment about the lightning.  What did Dan put on the gravestone?

Loved the flashbacks at the end.  I’m glad they included one with DJ; seeing those clips made me remember how much I loved young Aunt Jackie before she became over the top.  

  • Like 10
(edited)
25 minutes ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

What did Dan put on the gravestone?

A stone:

What did Dan place on Roseanne's tombstone at the cemetery?

Bruce Helford: It's a stone. In the Jewish religion, you leave a stone behind. And it's really respect for the person who's passed to let everyone know that they are not a forgotten person. And that's why he left the stone there.

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2025/the-conners-series-finale-roseanne-john-goodman-producers-interview/

 

Edit: Dan saying goodnight directly to the audience was John Goodman's doing:

Helford: That was John’s choice. He was supposed to say good night to the family as they were leaving. And that was the last good night, and then he gets up and goes to his bedroom. But he decided to play it to the camera. And because the family had already broken down emotionally, which we also kept in, and the fourth wall was kind of gone there as well, it just felt so right and affirming that we left it in.

Edited by ams1001
  • Like 9
  • Applause 1
  • Useful 4

The original 4-5 seasons of Roseanne were brilliant, hilarious, realistic and presented a working class family in a heart warming & relatable way. This reboot only survived on nostalgia and at times, was an insult to the original with how they rewrote characters and their past to fit whatever hijinks the writers wanted shoehorned in.
 

However, it was ok. And I teared up at the Goodbyes, too. Mainly, I was emotional for my own childhood. Like Staceynotstacie, I grew up with this show and this family. Realizing how that time is gone for good, got me a bit verklempt.  I’ll always miss the OG Roseanne, but I won’t miss this show to be honest. It just never had the heart of the original.  But good for the actors for getting another shot at it. 

  • Like 10
  • Applause 4
18 hours ago, Balboa said:

The flashbacks really showed just how good the original series was

But the final year for the original series was terrible and that first series finale was one of the worst that was ever filmed. They had Roseanne win the lottery part way through the season and the episodes based around that really sucked. In the final episode Roseanne announced that the previous seasons were a book that she had been writing, Dan had actually died after Darlene's wedding, Jackie was gay and Becky was with David and Darlene was with Mark. 

I was pleased that this finale was as normal as it turned out to be and they won't have to do yet another reset to fix what they messed up in this series ender.

  • Like 10
14 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:

But the final year for the original series was terrible and that first series finale was one of the worst that was ever filmed.

Agreed that the final year was terrible but the show really lost the plot for me a few seasons earlier.  IIRC it was around the time Roseanne decided she wanted another baby but there was a lot of other soap opera type stuff going on that I had no patience for.

  • Like 8
1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Mainly, I was emotional for my own childhood. Like @StaceyNotStacie I grew up with this show and this family. Realizing how that time is gone for good, got me a bit verklempt.

Yes!  Good point.

Part of the issue in our house is the second series just seemed so depressing.  

The original series had an optimistic feel to it.  We felt like everyone would be okay.  The hardships were only temporary and something to laugh about while things got better.

The second series felt like, "The system is going to keep us down so why bother?"

 

  • Like 7
  • Useful 1
  • Love 1
4 hours ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

I loved Dan’s reaction to the check.  I don’t think he ever cared about the money; he just wanted them to admit their part of the blame.  

Maybe that explains the way he got that check.  Considering how stressed Dan was by the whole thing, maybe he instructed his lawyer to just take whatever offer they made, just so it would be over.  

 

6 hours ago, Lovecat said:

I feel the need to watch some old-school Roseanne now.

I caught an episode over the weekend.  Everyone looked so young, and Dan looked so fat.  Becky's bowl haircut was terrible, no wonder she looks better now.  No surprise the actors broke up saying their goodnights, this show has practically been their entire lives.

  • Like 11
5 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

It had its episodes that were a little better and those a little worse but the finale didn’t ruin the show for me.   So there is that.

I thought the ending was as little two Mary Sue for me.  EVERYONE has a  happy ending?  Why didn't Mark face consequences for his hacking instating getting s great job in NYC? How could Jackie be a uniformed cop?  She should have been given a desk job.

I thought Lousie lost a LOT of weight.  Hope she's OK.

  • Like 5
  • Applause 1
23 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I had a feeling that check wasn't going to be very big*. But I figured it would've been tough for them to get a big win on that front.

 

23 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Um...wouldn't a settlement amount have to be agreed to? Not just "we're sending you a check for an unspecified amount"..."okay"?

 

21 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

Yes.  Dan could always reject the check and continue the suit.  I wasn't expecting a huge amount, but I thought the $700.00 was just a slap in the face.  That's not even nuisance value. 

It wasn't a settlement, and it wasn't a "win." In true Connor fashion, Dan and the group didn't understand what actually happened. When he first heard there was a check, he celebrated - without knowing if the company admitted guilt, without knowing how much the check was and, most importantly, by celebrating he was essentially accepting that Roseanne's life was worth the check's amount. 

I found that whole kitchen scene incredibly insensitive and ignorant, and the reality of what happened was exactly opposite what the show tried to portray. The company specifically said they did not acknowledge guilt, and that Roseanne killed herself. The dollar amount was weird, it was referenced as the company being affected by his speech so I guess they decided $700 was a good amount to cover Dan's expenses as a gesture. But Dan, and the family, lost *completely.*

The Darlene/Mark stuff (mostly last episode but some here) was dumb. Mark didn't quit college to be a professional wrestler, or a rapper. He is very good at a desirable skill and embarked upon a career. And wasn't arrested. She should have been happy.

There was a lot of nostalgia porn and that's fine. Some of these folks have been fixtures for literally decades to fans. At least the ending was consistent. The Connors have always been, and still are, dim bulbs. 

  • Like 5
  • Useful 1
(edited)
3 hours ago, Dimity said:

IIRC it was around the time Roseanne decided she wanted another baby

Yeah, that was when Roseanne dumped 2nd husband (and head writer?)Tom Arnold and had an affair with her bodyguard. She got pregnant and they had to write Baby Buck into the show to explain the pregnancy. I guess just making her hide her stomach behind a big purse or a tall chair just wouldn't cut it. Dumping Tom Arnold may be part of why the writing went down hill.

Edited by NeenerNeener
  • Like 3
  • Useful 1

I remember reading somewhere that the writers room on the original show was extremely contentious. The list of writers for the old show on the IMDB is huge, but there are only about a dozen directors listed for the whole run.

Some recognizable names from the writers list:

Carrie Fisher, Joss Whedon, the Palladinos, Chuck Lorre, Eric Gilliland, Tom Arnold, Norm McDonald and Martin Mull.

I don't recognize any of the writers names from The Conners except Lecy Goranson (Becky).

  • Like 1
  • Useful 1
23 hours ago, Rocknrollzombie said:

And also forever stand by that Becky should have just stayed single and instead of Beverly rose they should have kept her and Mark’s baby from season 9.

Becky and Mark had a baby in Season 9? I have no recollection of that. I only remember Darlene having Harris.

The ending to this with the actors breaking character and crying didn't really work for me. It's not like the last episode of Friends or Modern Family where the characters were actually all going their separate ways for a long time. In this instance, they were just saying goodnight and going home. Undoubtably they'd be seeing each other again the very next day. So showing them breaking and crying just didn't make sense. Since they didn't really want some big life-altering change for everyone at the end it would have made more sense to simply say goodnight and end it like it was any other day, because that's all it really was.

It was also quite stupid of Dan to gather the entire family together at Roseanne's grave before even looking at the check or the letter from the drug company. I get why they did it but like so much of this show it was idiot plotting.

I do feel sentimental about the actors and the characters, but these last six episodes have reminded me of just how poor the writing has been, and sadly I won't miss it. And yeah I am sad about that because these actors deserved better, and so did their fans.

  • Like 7
52 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:

Carrie Fisher, Joss Whedon, the Palladinos, Chuck Lorre, Eric Gilliland, Tom Arnold, Norm McDonald and Martin Mull.

I thought it would have been odd if Carrie Fisher was on Roseanne's writing staff because she already had a very successful writing and acting career before Roseanne ever started, so I looked this up.  She helped write the episode where Debbie Reynolds played Dan's mother, so I can see why Fisher might have been involved.  That appears to be her only involvement with the show.     

 

25 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

It was also quite stupid of Dan to gather the entire family together at Roseanne's grave before even looking at the check or the letter from the drug company. I get why they did it but like so much of this show it was idiot plotting.

In fairness, it's kind of in character for the Conners to build something up, only to have it fall apart. 

  • Like 7
  • Useful 1
41 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Becky and Mark had a baby in Season 9? I have no recollection of that. I only remember Darlene having Harris.

 

They were going to have a baby, Becky was pregnant, her and mark talk about giving the family the news about the new member of their family, but decided not to, to not steal the spotlight for Harris coming home from the hospital. The end of season 9 before the dumb reveal twist 

  • Like 1
14 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Becky and Mark had a baby in Season 9? I have no recollection of that. I only remember Darlene having Harris.

I remember Harris' birth, but I don't remember Mark.

 

12 hours ago, CrystalBlue said:

$700.  And that's all folks!  RIP Roseanne.

No matter how much they got they would have burned thru it in a week.

  • Like 1

This show became a chore to watch. The first couple seasons I laughed out loud a few times per ep. Then nothing, maybe a chuckle here and there but for the most part nothing. Not even sure why I kept watching.

But I did like pretty much the entire finale. Liked how Dan explained his love for Roseanne to Louise and how she fit in his life. The graveyard scene worked well and was heartfelt. Dan should have known the amount before he opened the check, but whatever. Seemed fitting that's all they'd get. Did appreciate how he stood up to them in court. Agree with you guys in them saying goodbye to the camera was real emotion too. I laughed out loud a few times this ep which I totally wasn't expecting, well done show. Ended on a high note.

  • Like 6
  • Love 1
(edited)

Boy, am I gonna miss this show!

Some musings….

As someone still grieving the loss of her mother, I lost it when the family gathered at Roseanne’s grave and shared what was going on in their lives.  Ben does remind me of Dan, which is good for Darlene.  I’m glad they finally had it out about him abandoning her while he worked on his business.

Darlene annoyed me with how she treated Mark when he told her he wasn’t going to college….the man has the chance to get a six-figure position after training and you’re pissed?  Glad she came to her senses afterwards, especially after her talk with Dan about how he regretted treating Becky when she married Mark and left Lanford.

I knew in Part 1 that Becky had that job, it was great seeing her on top for once.  I wish she had put some of her newfound funds on the house Tyler wanted them to have and the rest on the truck.

Louise had me teary for both episodes; the look on her face during the countless mentions of Roseanne said it all, I loved Dan reassuring her that she was the love of the second half of his life.

For a second I thought Dan was joking about the amount of the check when he was laughing, like it was $700,000 instead of $700.00.

The tears came back as everyone said goodnight before leaving and definitely at John Goodman’s smile/breaking the fourth wall and saying goodnight.  I wish there had been a final roll call of the cast once the scene was over.

My one gripe?  Once again, no mention of D.J.!  If he couldn’t be at the gravesite, Dan could have at least mentioned him, Mary and Geena living in Germany, something!

At any rate farewell, Conners...ya done good.

Edited by Yogisbooboo64
  • Like 8
  • Love 1

The ending reminded me several times of why I love the show and its writing: Darlene telling Ben why would she text someone laying in bed next to her, the comment about not hitting Louise with lightening, I took over the restaurant and the food tastes better and a few others. The characters using humor in serious situations where you would not expect it but it works. The ending is almost like the antithesis to them winning the lottery in the original - money is not going to make everything perfect, they stick together no matter what the financial situation. But to leave adult DJ out, BOO!

  • Like 8
4 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

My one gripe?  Once again, no mention of D.J.!  If he couldn’t be at the gravesite, Dan could have at least mentioned him, Mary and Geena living in Germany, something!

They really had no idea what to do with the character, did they?  I don't pretend Michael Fishman was the strongest actor, but it is a little sad that he was mostly an afterthought with the revival.

4 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

 

Louise had me teary for both episodes; the look on her face during the countless mentions of Roseanne said it all, I loved Dan reassuring her that she was the love of the second half of his life.

I really liked that part of the storyline.  Marrying a widow or widower can be very hard, and it was good to see Louise expressing her worries about the lawsuit, how hard it was to hear Dan call Roseanne the love of his life, and what it meant for she and Dan.     

  • Like 9
(edited)
5 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

Darlene annoyed me with how she treated Mark when he told her he wasn’t going to college….the man has the chance to get a six-figure position after training and you’re pissed?  Glad she came to her senses afterwards, especially after her talk with Dan about how he regretted treating Becky when she married Mark and left Lanford.

I agree with you about Darlene's attitude that and Mark did the right thing. You got to take opportunities now because it may not be there tomorrow. Mark can always go back to school and he'll have savings from a six-figure salary to afford it and work experience which is huge in the business world. 

That reminded me of how Darlene turned down an advertising job for over $30k in 1996 (over 60k in today's money according to Google), but she wanted to stay in school which upset the rest of the struggling family. 

 

Edited by Snow Apple
  • Like 6

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...