S01.E13: 7:00 P.M.

[juno]

Episode airs Mar 27, 2025

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[Wicked]

I don't buy that Robbie would stay this long with one patient, maybe if it was the "step son" but not the girlfriend of

[Wicked]

This is the first episode that just didn't work for me, are we supposed to relate him not being able to save the girl friend to turning off life support for his mentor during Covid?  He is long overdue for the breakdown, but it didn't make sense to me that this is what brought it on.

[Raachel2008]

That’s Noah’s Emmy right there.

Dana, I fucking love you. The moment she gave up primary to help Robby.

Obviously David is not the shooter.

Ten bucks the cops will arrest McKay for destroying her ankle monitor. 

I’m sorry but I really can’t with Santos. I would be willing to give her a huge pass  for doing something she shouldn’t have done because it is a drastic situation and all that, but her glee and name calling Whittaker can’t be excused. Fuck the writers for having Abbot validating her that way.

[txhorns79]

1 minute ago, Raachel2008 said:

Obviously David is not the shooter.

I agree.  Aside from his own injury, I don't think there was a drop of blood on him.

 

57 minutes ago, Wicked said:

I don't buy that Robbie would stay this long with one patient, maybe if it was the "step son" but not the girlfriend of

I did think he went way overboard.  I honestly thought someone would say something to him that she was gone and there were too many other patients to continue spending time on her.   

[Notabug]

48 minutes ago, Wicked said:

This is the first episode that just didn't work for me, are we supposed to relate him not being able to save the girl friend to turning off life support for his mentor during Covid?  He is long overdue for the breakdown, but it didn't make sense to me that this is what brought it on.

When someone has PTSD and starts spiralng, they can lose their grip over even the simplest thing.  Anything that somehow triggers their traumatic memories will do it; even something that seems completely unrelated to the initial incident.   In Robby's case, the events have been piling up all day, and it just so happened that the girlfriend's death was the final straw.  The fact that he clearly loves Jake and was devastated to see him suffering was more than enough.  I'm sure his efforts to save the girl which went well beyond the typical resuscitation even without a mass casualty, was also part of his PTSD.   Just like with his mentor, the ER was overwhelmed and a patient who might've been saved had they not been so busy was lost.

Back on ER, NW's character, Carter, was stabbed by a patient and almost died.  The medical student he was working with died in the same incident.  Months later, we saw Carter clearly disturbed and probably having a flashback just looking at a bread knife in his grandmother's kitchen.  That happens in real life.

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I did think he went way overboard.  I honestly thought someone would say something to him that she was gone and there were too many other patients to continue spending time on her

I think that was the point and both Dana and Abbott said something to him; trying to make him re-think his actions.  In the end, short of physically dragging him away from the patient, there wasn't much they could do.

The kid cannot be the shooter if only because Robby would have even more reason to feel guilty for not calling the cops as soon as he heard about the hit list that morning.

Since Jake's band was #91, are we to assume at least that many victims were taken to that particular hospital?  I'm no weapons expert, but it would seem to me that it would be very tough for someone on the ground with a firearm, even an automatic, to manage to shoot that many people over just a couple minutes.   It was an outdoor festival, he would've been standing on the ground with hundreds, if not thousands of people surrounding him.  A high school kid, even one who knows how to use an automatic weapon, would be unlikely to be able to set himself up in that setting to give himself the time and the amount of ammunition and weaponry to shoot that many people so quickly before someone tackled him from behind or otherwise disabled him.  He would've had to have concealed himself and multiple weapons prior to starting to shoot and I think that would be pretty tough for anyone to do with that many witnesses.

Edited Friday at 02:49 AM by Notabug

[Raachel2008]

1 hour ago, txhorns79 said:

I did think he went way overboard.  I honestly thought someone would say something to him that she was gone and there were too many other patients to continue spending time on her.   

They were all very busy and Abbot said he was using too much blood and that other people could die/were going to die in the time he took to save Leah. But Abbot did it in a way that didn't undermine Robby and I think that was the point.

[bybrandy]

2 hours ago, Wicked said:

This is the first episode that just didn't work for me, are we supposed to relate him not being able to save the girl friend to turning off life support for his mentor during Covid?  He is long overdue for the breakdown, but it didn't make sense to me that this is what brought it on.

It isn’t just not saving Jake’s girlfriend. It is all the people he couldn’t save. It is being in that room where he couldn’t save his mentor telling a boy he loves he couldn’t save that girl. It isn’t one thing. It is all the things and it is all the things in this place on this day. 

[debraran]

I knew the girlfriend was expendable but would hit Robbie harder. For him it was another person he couldn't save he loved or someone he loved cared about. During the 2-3 month break for next season might have him getting help and others (we know Langdon is in rehab) David is back and looking very upset, I hope they didn't put his name or photo out there?  This show is so much about bias along with many other things.

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[debraran]

7 hours ago, Wicked said:

This is the first episode that just didn't work for me, are we supposed to relate him not being able to save the girl friend to turning off life support for his mentor during Covid?  He is long overdue for the breakdown, but it didn't make sense to me that this is what brought it on.

I think he was just exhausted. He is not only in the mess with everyone else, but in charge. He seems back to work next week but during break, I hope they mention him getting help and Langdon of course will. Sometimes you can write the script and this time the girlfriend from the time mentioned was to me an obvious casualty. Not close to Robbie but close to someone he loved. Jake will move on but Robbie has the guilt of not saving her.

 

[rwlevin]

8 hours ago, Notabug said:

Since Jake's band was #91, are we to assume at least that many victims were taken to that particular hospital?  I'm no weapons expert, but it would seem to me that it would be very tough for someone on the ground with a firearm, even an automatic, to manage to shoot that many people over just a couple minutes.

Not everyone was shot. Last week, the mother of the deaf patient had been run over by a car, several patients were stated to have crushing injuries and don’t forget the girl that went into hypoglycemic shock or the fentanyl overdose. There were hundreds of people at the concert running for their lives, in such pandemonium people are going to be injured in a myriad of different ways, not just gun shots.

[wknt3]

8 hours ago, Notabug said:

Since Jake's band was #91, are we to assume at least that many victims were taken to that particular hospital?  I'm no weapons expert, but it would seem to me that it would be very tough for someone on the ground with a firearm, even an automatic, to manage to shoot that many people over just a couple minutes.   It was an outdoor festival, he would've been standing on the ground with hundreds, if not thousands of people surrounding him.  A high school kid, even one who knows how to use an automatic weapon, would be unlikely to be able to set himself up in that setting to give himself the time and the amount of ammunition and weaponry to shoot that many people so quickly before someone tackled him from behind or otherwise disabled him.  He would've had to have concealed himself and multiple weapons prior to starting to shoot and I think that would be pretty tough for anyone to do with that many witnesses.

We don't really know anything about the timeline and the details of the shooting and we probably never will. And not all of the injuries are GSWs since there are also people being trampled, the OD, etc. I would say there are unfortunately plenty of real world examples to draw from that say things that shouldn't be able to happen do. Heck there was a shooting at an outdoor event in PA in the past year that we would call terrible writing if it had happened on TV...

[fastiller]

The 2017 Las Vegas shooting resulted in 60 deaths, all from gunshot wounds.  There were appx 865 people injured in all: at least 410 of these were GSW or shrapnel.

[SeanBug]

1 hour ago, fastiller said:

The 2017 Las Vegas shooting resulted in 60 deaths, all from gunshot wounds.  There were appx 865 people injured in all: at least 410 of these were GSW or shrapnel.

We don't know where the shooter was, if he was located in an elevated spot where he could do the most damage. Like Vegas. That shooter was in a hotel room. The crowd was sitting ducks. 

Agree re Robby losing it. You never know when ptsd will hit you, it may be totally unrelated to what causes you to break.  He was trying to save Leah because of his love for Jake. Think if it was someone you loved and you'll do anything to save them.  You get so focused on that one mission you lose sight of everything else.  

And also agree, there's Noah Wyle's Emmy, that last scene, along with the entire first season. 

[gibasi]

Why can't Santos fail just once! I hope that she has an epic fail in the sesaon finale.

Edited Friday at 03:55 PM by gibasi
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[TVForever]

12 hours ago, Wicked said:

I don't buy that Robbie would stay this long with one patient, maybe if it was the "step son" but not the girlfriend of

I think he was just exhausted and spinning out at that point. And there was likely some survivor's guilt from the fact that she was at the concert with Robby's ticket/in Robby's place (I can't remember the exact reason he wasn't able to go himself-I'm guessing work). Talk about, "There but for the grace of God go I"...

You know, it wasn't until Robby's final breakdown that I was reminded that everything we've seen this season (his flashbacks as he was losing it) has all been in the course of ONE DAY. 

It's a wonder the whole ED team isn't losing it at this point. 

[SeanBug]

I guess some of us have been in situations where we have so much adrenaline and focus on one problem, like "if I can just do this, just give me the strength and insight to fix this". 

It would make the viewer understand Robby's actions. Dana and Abbott knew he didn't mean to ignore other patients. Talk to any trauma care doctor, there's always that one patient that will keep you trying ANYTHING to help them. 

When Robby lists everyone who died that day, that same day, who he couldn't save.  It was like "I am not going to let her die".  

 

[rwlevin]

1 hour ago, gibasi said:

Why can't Santos fail just once! I hope tat she has an epic fail in the sesaon finale

Technically she already did with the pneumothorax guy and accidentally stabbing Garcia. But yeah, she needs her comeuppance, especially since Abbott validated her and she now probably thinks she's invincible.

[Charlemagne]

13 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I agree.  Aside from his own injury, I don't think there was a drop of blood on him.

 

I did think he went way overboard.  I honestly thought someone would say something to him that she was gone and there were too many other patients to continue spending time on her.   

But someone did.

Abbott got into his ear and basically said that. Even talked about how ten other patients would die because of the time he is spending on the girl.

[Sarah 103]

 

5 hours ago, fastiller said:

The 2017 Las Vegas shooting resulted in 60 deaths, all from gunshot wounds.  There were appx 865 people injured in all: at least 410 of these were GSW or shrapnel.

3 hours ago, SeanBug said:

We don't know where the shooter was, if he was located in an elevated spot where he could do the most damage. Like Vegas. That shooter was in a hotel room. The crowd was sitting ducks. 

6 hours ago, wknt3 said:

Heck there was a shooting at an outdoor event in PA in the past year that we would call terrible writing if it had happened on TV...

That's what I'm thinking; it's like Vegas or like Butler PA. All the shooter would need is a high capacity weapon, an outdoor location or a location with an open window and a clear sightline of the festival to cause significant damage in a fairly short amount of time. 

1 hour ago, Charlemagne said:

Abbott got into his ear and basically said that. Even talked about how ten other patients would die because of the time he is spending on the girl.

That line reminded me of M*A*S*H. I wouldn't mind following Abbott for a shift in a future season.  

14 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

Ten bucks the cops will arrest McKay for destroying her ankle monitor. 

I don't think so. They might try to arrest her but I could see the other law enforcement officers who were around pulling the cops aside and trying to talk them out of the arrest. There were law enforcement officers around who could testify/vouch for how crazy things were and that she was trying to do her job in a difficult/close to impossible situation. 

Anyone have thoughts on Whittaker calling himself Dr. Whittaker?  

I have two guesses regarding the identity of the shooter; we will never find out who the shooter was or someone will announce it via checking their cellphone and seeing a news update at the end of shift. 

Every episode of this show goes by so quickly. It's amazing. 

 

[90sfan]

With Dr. Adamson, Robbie had to choose saving another person's life over his mentor. Rationally he knew it was the right choice. Dr. Adamson was not likely to leave even staying on that machine for longer. 

With Leah, he was essentially having to make that choice. There is a small chance that he could have saved he if they were not in disaster mode and he had the time plus more doctors and nurses working with him to save her. You can see him thinking this when Jake questions why he couldn't save her if that is what he does. He had to be reminded by Abbott in the moment that other people were dying while he continued to work on Leah.

On another note, you can see the fatigue setting in especially with Whitaker but overall. Last week's episode had an almost quietness or stillness to it even with all the chaos. There was focus and adrenaline. This episode you could feel the dread of being 90 something patients in and not seeing an end in sight. It was wearing on them for sure.

[debraran]

1 hour ago, rwlevin said:

Technically she already did with the pneumothorax guy and accidentally stabbing Garcia. But yeah, she needs her comeuppance, especially since Abbott validated her and she now probably thinks she's invincible.

She will , they all do and she’ll crash. It will just be harder since she had so many wins 

Edited Friday at 05:42 PM by debraran

[Empress1]

Dr. King pulling Whitaker aside after he DRILLED A HOLE IN THE CLOWN’S ARM (I might sue!) had me rolling. “Um, why did you do that?” A moment of levity in an otherwise tragic episode.

2 minutes ago, 90sfan said:

On another note, you can see the fatigue setting in especially with Whitaker but overall.

I see it with Dr. King too. She’s bouncing all over the place and it looks like she’s going to crash. She’s also down a unit of blood, probably not hydrating, hasn’t eaten.

Robby’s meltdown at the end was harrowing. It was due, this has been a terrible day. I was moved and upset right along with him. Watching him try to pull it together was so affecting. I disagree with him that Jake will forget Leah - he never will. First love (I think), killed in front of him… she’ll stay with him. I know Robby was spiraling when he said that.

Would love a season or spin-off about the night shift. Abbott seems to have a military background I’m curious about, and I’m very curious about Dr. Ellis too.

[Sarah 103]

53 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

Would love a season or spin-off about the night shift. Abbott seems to have a military background I’m curious about, and I’m very curious about Dr. Ellis too.

I love this idea. I have no idea why it didn't occur to me to make the night shift a spin-off. From HBO's perspective, you already have the sets and props. A good chunk of the creative team (writers, directors, producers, costume, hair and make-up and anyone else that I'm forgetting) probably wouldn't mind an extra 15 weeks or so of paid work, and if someone isn't interested working onThe Pitt: Night Shift, I'm sure HBO/MAX can find someone/people who would love the job.

Because there can be such a huge gap (multiple years) between seasons on streaming platforms, keep the same name but alternate between day shift and night shift. One year it's day shift, the next year it's night shift. That way people don't forget about the series because there's always a version to watch every year with the same title.  

   

Edited Friday at 06:39 PM by Sarah 103

[fastiller]

2 hours ago, Empress1 said:

 

Would love a season or spin-off about the night shift. Abbott seems to have a military background I’m curious about, and I’m very curious about Dr. Ellis too.

 

1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said:

I love this idea. I have no idea why it didn't occur to me to make the night shift a spin-off. From HBO's perspective, you already have the sets and props. A good chunk of the creative team (writers, directors, producers, costume, hair and make-up and anyone else that I'm forgetting) probably wouldn't mind an extra 15 weeks or so of paid work, and if someone isn't interested working onThe Pitt: Night Shift, I'm sure HBO/MAX can find someone/people who would love the job.

 

 

I suggested this -jokingly- in the previous episode convo.  I think it'd be a great idea for S1 to be the current team, then S2 be the night shift immediately following.   Though I do understand why that likely won't happen.

 

 

[lianau]

5 hours ago, gibasi said:

Why can't Santos fail just once! I hope that she has an epic fail in the sesaon finale.

I think they are probably setting her up for one major fall in  form of a dead patient. So far she's gotten away with her recklessness and that has only emboldened her further.

[Notabug]

9 hours ago, fastiller said:

The 2017 Las Vegas shooting resulted in 60 deaths, all from gunshot wounds.  There were appx 865 people injured in all: at least 410 of these were GSW or shrapnel.

But that particular shooter had extensive experience, multiple weapons and was able to shoot from the safety of a hotel room which gave him a big advantage in being able to shoot multiple victims that a shooter out in the open at ground level would not have. After, it was discovered that he spent weeks planning the attack. To me, the extent of the carnage indicates that it wasn't some teen boy angry at girls who decided to do it on a whim.

Edited Friday at 09:07 PM by Notabug

[marceline]

I love this show and its cast but I really want to give a shout out to the actors playing patients. They’re willing to lay on a gurney naked and covered in fake blood.

[backhometome]

Santos is so annoying. Even when she goes against regulations she gets an ego boost. 🙄

[juno]

1 hour ago, lianau said:

I think they are probably setting her up for one major fall in  form of a dead patient. So far she's gotten away with her recklessness and that has only emboldened her further.

I think that she is going to get a specific order from Robby and she is going to go against it and it is going to cause a death or something equally terrible.

[iMonrey]

I think the shooter is that shell shocked woman who wouldn't speak and got up to look around the ER.

I agree Noah Wyle should win the Emmy for this. And if he doesn't there's no point in having Emmys.

I'm unclear how Jake is related to Robbie. He said Robbie and his mother were together for a couple of years. But - is Jake's mother the widow of Robbie's mentor? Because that would go a long way in explaining why he was so focused on saving Leah. First he couldn't save Jake's father and now he couldn't save Jake's girlfriend. Or am I just speculating here?

MAX didn't show a preview for next week at the end of this. Was there one?

3 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

Because there can be such a huge gap (multiple years) between seasons on streaming platforms, keep the same name but alternate between day shift and night shift. One year it's day shift, the next year it's night shift. That way people don't forget about the series because there's always a version to watch every year with the same title.  

I would love to see a Night Shift spinoff but I wouldn't want it to take the place of the current cast next year. If they could do one "Day Shift" and one "Night Shift" series in the same year that would be great, but I realize it's probably cost-prohibitive. And I don't want to go two years before getting back to this cast.

[fastiller]

21 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

 

MAX didn't show a preview for next week at the end of this. Was there one?

 

Check the first post in the thread for the next ep. It's linked there.

[Empress1]

37 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I'm unclear how Jake is related to Robbie. He said Robbie and his mother were together for a couple of years. But - is Jake's mother the widow of Robbie's mentor?

Jake and Robby aren’t blood related, and I don’t think Jake is connected to the mentor. I think Jake is just Robby’s ex-girlfriend’s kid with whom Robby became close when he started dating Jake’s mom, and to whom Robby has remained close even though the relationship apparently didn’t work out. This episode, one of the newbie docs asked Jake how he knew Robby and Dana and he said that Robby and his mom used to go out and he used to come to work with Robby. If he were the mentor’s son, he’d have said so then. Also since this is the anniversary of the mentor’s death, Jake would have said something about that too, probably, if he were the mentor’s son.

McKay referred to Jake as Robby’s kind of stepson with no mention of the mentor, so I don’t think the mentor is connected. Jake seems to be one of the few familial connections Robby has,  (feelings, not blood) so I think that’s why he tried so hard to save Leah.

Edited Friday at 10:52 PM by Empress1

[Sarah 103]

1 hour ago, Empress1 said:

I think Jake is just Robby’s ex-girlfriend’s kid with whom Robby became close when he started dating Jake’s mom, and to whom Robby has remained close even though the relationship apparently didn’t work out.

@iMonrey I think the above is the correct explanation. Robby or someone referred to Jake as an honorary stepson. 

Robby dated Jake's mother. They broke up. Robby remained close to Jake.  

[CoyoteBlue]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I would love to see a Night Shift spinoff but I wouldn't want it to take the place of the current cast next year. If they could do one "Day Shift" and one "Night Shift" series in the same year that would be great, but I realize it's probably cost-prohibitive. And I don't want to go two years before getting back to this cast.

I don't know if they're going to do the "Season = One Shift" forever, but it'd be interesting to have two eps = a day and alternate between Day and Night Shifts. A 13/14 ep season would be a real-time week.

[kickingnames]

5 hours ago, lianau said:

I think they are probably setting her up for one major fall in  form of a dead patient. So far she's gotten away with her recklessness and that has only emboldened her further.

At this point I think they’re saving something like that for Season 2.

[Madding crowd]

I was wondering at McKay’s bracelet going off: is she not allowed to work overtime? I would think she would be fine staying at her work location but I don’t know how those things work. I still can’t stand Santos and hope someone reports her to HR when things calm down for the derogatory names. She uses the names in front of patients and that’s wrong. She also could get the hospital sued for doing procedures she’s not qualified for no matter how ‘bad ass’ it is.

[Notabug]

2 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

I was wondering at McKay’s bracelet going off: is she not allowed to work overtime? I would think she would be fine staying at her work location but I don’t know how those things work. I still can’t stand Santos and hope someone reports her to HR when things calm down for the derogatory names. She uses the names in front of patients and that’s wrong. She also could get the hospital sued for doing procedures she’s not qualified for no matter how ‘bad ass’ it is.

Even if she was supposed to leave and go home as soon as her shift ended, the device started alarming less than an hour after the end of her shift.  Even if it is wired to notify the authorities, it seems like there has to be a lag between the end of her shift and the device alarming to give her time to get home.  And, yes, she's an ER resident; staying less than an hour after the end of her shift should be a common occurrence.  In most hospitals, a shift that ends at 7PM doesn't mean leaving on the dot.  The first shift would be expected to stay and sign out their patients to the next, meaning they wouldn't be able to leave before 7:30 or so.  They'd also have to make sure all their charting was up to date as the next shift would need the info and, on a busy day, that would have to be done after the shift.

I don't work the ER, I work at a regular gyn office seeing patients. Even if I try to keep up as I go; I still have about an hour's worth of charting as well as labs to review, phone calls and message to return before I leave.  If I stay an hour past the end of the day, that is a very good day.

[Artsda]

That should be Noah Wylie Emmy reel. So amazing and well done.

[Infie]

41:38.  Another short one. 

I wanted to slap Jake several times.  I understand that it's entirely aligned with how real people are, but to be fair to me, I want to slap real life people when they start behaving like Jake was.  (I am referring to his pleading for special treatment, jumping the line, ignoring the docs instructions, pleading for special treatment again with seeing his girlfriend's body).  No other person in that ER involved would actually get to do any of those things, and just being well known by the staff shouldn't mean that he gets to.  Argh!  Hot button successfully pressed, The Pitt.   Then he started in on Robbie about why didn't he save Leah, even after seeing the other dead bodies, and yes, I understand, grief - but the inability to look beyond ourselves is a disease in itself and it is an epidemic in our world, and it pisses me off. 

Poor Dr King is definitely feeling overstimulated, but she is handling it like an absolute champion.  That being said - isn't she technically more senior than Santos? I admit I have lost track in there somewhere.  

I applaud the show demonstrating how having your attention pulled, even for a moment, can be detrimental to patient care and how the chaos was reaching a tipping point.  It was a real race to who would die first - the fellow with the head wound or the young woman with the leg wound. 

The reaction to the IV borer to the temple was AMAZING.  Best part of the episode for me. 

[circumvent]

16 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

I don't think so. They might try to arrest her but I could see the other law enforcement officers who were around pulling the cops aside and trying to talk them out of the arrest.

The law is not that forgiving. They go by procedure and don't really care if the person is saving lives. They could throw int here that there was an officer and try to make a case but they would certainly try to punish her.

 

12 hours ago, marceline said:

I love this show and its cast but I really want to give a shout out to the actors playing patients. They’re willing to lay on a gurney naked and covered in fake blood.

Most of them are not really naked. Depending on the budget, the ones without lines might be dummies. 

 

11 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I think the shooter is that shell shocked woman who wouldn't speak and got up to look around the ER

I don't think so. It would be a big stretch. She is there to either show the different ways people are affected or she will be the one able to identify the shooter, maybe. 

9 hours ago, CoyoteBlue said:

I don't know if they're going to do the "Season = One Shift" forever, but it'd be interesting to have two eps = a day and alternate between Day and Night Shifts. A 13/14 ep season would be a real-time week.

I have a feeling that they already know how many seasons they want to roll with this. I hope they don't go on forever because it is very rare that a show can be good for more than 5 seasons. And they will definitely not change the cast each season because, at least for the first two seasons, Noah Wyle is the anchor of the show

7 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

I was wondering at McKay’s bracelet going off: is she not allowed to work overtime?

Her anklet is problematic and she complain about it in the first episode. It goes off for no reason, anytime, even when they know where she is where she is supposed to be. 

 

The amount of trauma in this last two episodes is visible, even the ones that are still to come. I can almost see the adrenaline rushing through the veins of everyone as they go from one victim to the other without time to process. Plus the trauma on each patient, the social workers having to identify bodies, the families waiting for any news. There is so much, and I 100% believe this is close to what really happens. I wonder if they had special consultants for this situation. No wonder we are a very traumatized country.

I remember being in a hospital as a companion and talking to a nurse in 2021. The uncertainty of COVID still there but not like in 2020, when nobody really knew what that virus could do, was doing. One nurse said that in 2020 the hospital had one room where the medical workers could go and just scream. And the nursing staffing has never really recovered.

On the other hand, kind of, there are plenty of doctors and nurses who are not qualified and rude. I had experience with both. Once a doctor not able to explain to me something, then blaming me for not understanding, in an ER visit when I was upset and nervous. The other time someone I know going to the hospital for what I discovered on the INTERNET! that it was Drug Induced Liver Injury, which any specialist on the case could have seen by actually reading the chart and the list of meds. 

All this is to say that I see how some people here are hoping that Santos fail because the character is unlikable, this show has so far being pretty realistic so anyone could fail and hurt patients, even the most likable one. It is devastating either way because the patients have nothing to do with it. 

[debraran]

Spoiler

 

Someone pointed out The Pitt isn't a mystery show, it isn't a who done it so much but fans are concentrating on that because it's a diversion. Although I don't care and hope it's a anonymous person we didn't meet, the fallout and how is more important. We have to see how the medical professionals deal with it, the sadness, the war like images mostly MASH hospitals see.The triage which is so important and heartbreaking. Way back in MASH's day I remember docs not wanting to stop saving someone but there were others that needed a chance.

I wonder what person or persons got such a weapon that could kill so many so quickly? Was it an adult who had no connection to anyone but wanting carnage? That though could be a 2 minute conversation but not the core of the story. I feel in some ways the shooter is becoming more of the story than the aftermath.

[rwlevin]

7 hours ago, Infie said:

Poor Dr King is definitely feeling overstimulated, but she is handling it like an absolute champion.  That being said - isn't she technically more senior than Santos? I admit I have lost track in there somewhere. 

Yes, she’s a second year and Santos is an intern. But this is still her first shift in the ER. Working in the ER is super different than working on the wards. That’s why when you compare her to McKay who is also a second year, McKay is a lot more competent. She’s been in the ER the whole time.

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, rwlevin said:

Yes, she’s a second year and Santos is an intern. But this is still her first shift in the ER. Working in the ER is super different than working on the wards. That’s why when you compare her to McKay who is also a second year, McKay is a lot more competent. She’s been in the ER the whole time.

Yes, that is one detail that the show got very right. Residents often rotate into areas that are not their specialty.  King is supposed to be an internal medicine resident, I think.  Folks going into that specialty would often choose ER as one of their electives, if only because, especially as a resident and fresh into practice; working in Urgent Care or even ER can be a profitable moonlighting gig.   And, it stands to reason, especially when it comes to trauma medicine, that King would not be as confident and assured since it is not in her wheelhouse.

[circumvent]

2 hours ago, debraran said:

I wonder what person or persons got such a weapon that could kill so many so quickly? Was it an adult who had no connection to anyone but wanting carnage?

Anyone in the US? Firearms are easier to get than some allergy medications, there is little to no regulation and, perhaps most importantly, people in the US are too individualistic and one of the least happy - as in satisfied with their lives - in comparable countries in the world. It is a perfect storm for some to either just lose it completely - not an excuse, a plausible explanation - or to act on their sociopathy when life is so terrible and they cannot get their scapegoats out of sight fast enough. This country has a pathological unhappiness and a pathological sense of entitlement. This can manifest itself in some people

[kitkat343]

12 hours ago, Notabug said:

Even if she was supposed to leave and go home as soon as her shift ended, the device started alarming less than an hour after the end of her shift.  Even if it is wired to notify the authorities, it seems like there has to be a lag between the end of her shift and the device alarming to give her time to get home.  And, yes, she's an ER resident; staying less than an hour after the end of her shift should be a common occurrence.  In most hospitals, a shift that ends at 7PM doesn't mean leaving on the dot.  The first shift would be expected to stay and sign out their patients to the next, meaning they wouldn't be able to leave before 7:30 or so.  They'd also have to make sure all their charting was up to date as the next shift would need the info and, on a busy day, that would have to be done after the shift.

I don't work the ER, I work at a regular gyn office seeing patients. Even if I try to keep up as I go; I still have about an hour's worth of charting as well as labs to review, phone calls and message to return before I leave.  If I stay an hour past the end of the day, that is a very good day.

The bracelet malfunctioned in a previous episode, and falsely claimed she was outside her allowed zone.  She spoke to the monitoring station and told them she was still at work and the bracelet was wrong about her location AGAIN in the exasperated tone of someone who has dealt with it malfunctioning a lot.  I didn't put much stock in the fact that it went off.  I was a little sad she didn't cut the thing off and hand it to one of the many police waiting on the injured cop and told them to call the monitoring station and deal with it, because if she doesn't respond she really can get in trouble and it will be harder for her to fix than the cops.  

[iMonrey]

I just hope we get an explanation for why McKay has an ankle monitor by the end of the season. 

[kitkat343]

16 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I think the shooter is that shell shocked woman who wouldn't speak and got up to look around the ER.

 

 

4 hours ago, circumvent said:

 

 

I don't think so. It would be a big stretch. She is there to either show the different ways people are affected or she will be the one able to identify the shooter, maybe. 

 

The shell shocked woman also set off my spidey sense as the shooter when she was looking around the ER this week.  We could both be wrong and she might just be there to illustrate how shock affects patients.   

Just now, iMonrey said:

I just hope we get an explanation for why McKay has an ankle monitor by the end of the season. 

I assumed when she said that the idiot new girlfriend who came to her place of employment wearing a Bonus Mom shirt was "the gift that keeps on giving" and pulled on her pants leg that she was the reason for the ankle monitor.  

Edited Saturday at 03:02 PM by kitkat343

[iMonrey]

19 minutes ago, kitkat343 said:

I assumed when she said that the idiot new girlfriend who came to her place of employment wearing a Bonus Mom shirt was "the gift that keeps on giving" and pulled on her pants leg that she was the reason for the ankle monitor.  

We know the girlfriend has something to do with it but we don't know the particulars. The whole thing is weird.

[rwlevin]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

I just hope we get an explanation for why McKay has an ankle monitor by the end of the season.

It sounded like Chloe got some kind of restraining order on McKay so my theory is that Chloe pressed charges for stalking or something like that and the ankle bracelet was part of a plea deal.

 

I also wanted to add that she was making plans to hang out with Mateo during the weekend and she’s not getting the monitor off for like another week so I don’t think she has house arrest exactly but I don’t know how ankle monitors work.

Edited Saturday at 04:44 PM by rwlevin