S01.E12: 6:00 P.M.

[juno]

Episode airs Mar 20, 2025

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Edited March 15 by juno

[anna0852]

Holy Mary, Mother of…!!!!

That was freaking awesome and heartbreaking. And we have to wait another week!?!?!?!

And the first 10 minutes or so was *very* reminiscent of ER “Exodus” 

IYKYK

Edited Friday at 01:55 AM by anna0852

[fastiller]

Brilliant ep.  Great reference to M*A*S*H, was very reminiscent of that show.

[txhorns79]

"You're here!" - Heart melts. 

And Javadi with her mom!  I've seen my mother make the same face that Javadi's mother made at her when Javadi told her to read the f-ing room.  That's the "I can't kill you here, but be prepared to discuss this at home," look. 

[Wicked]

For once I can get behind Santos, but still giving her the side eye.  Good episode, I wonder if the shooter really is the son

[anna0852]

2 minutes ago, Wicked said:

For once I can get behind Santos, but still giving her the side eye.  Good episode, I wonder if the shooter really is the son

I’m starting to think he isn’t. It’s too cliche at this point.

[storyskip]

7 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

I’m starting to think he isn’t. It’s too cliche at this point.

I feel like it could go either way. It does seem too cliche that the son turns out to be the shooter. I’m leaning towards he’ll be a fatality. BUT this show has shown that:

A) Sometimes the horses are horses, not zebras.

B) That the writers aren’t afraid to leave the audience without answers. IE we may not learn the shooter’s identity.

I am wondering if it might turn out to be the man who punched Dana. An extreme headache, a violent personality, maybe he was on the edge of a psychotic break and decided “I’ll show that ER what it means to be too busy to treat people!!”

We know kids can get hold of high capacity firearms, but usually they have that access via the home. The mother has been so worried, and has been trying to do the right thing, I just feel like she would have lead with “his father had assault rifles…” but she never mentioned her son having ready access to even a pistol.

Also the shooter has taken down a wide range of ages, sexes, races. The son was focused on teenage girls in his peer group.

Driscoll (I think that was his name) seemed the type of personality to have high capacity rifles, just to be able to boast about having high capacity rifles. His anger was also at EVERYONE, not specific targets.

I think the son is going to end up a fatality, possibly while trying to help others.

[fireice13]

As a certified Specialist in Blood Banking I loved hearing Robby saying OPOS for males over 13 and females over 55! Although in this situation any unit of Type O available should be used. 

And they instituted a walking blood bank! Fresh whole blood (straight from the donor) is actually very effective for bleeding patients. 

They didn't really discuss the other components - platelets, plasma, cryo - but I get just focusing on the blood in a show like this. 

Really enjoying this show but wondering how they'll wrap up the season. I'm hoping the cliffhangers are only for episode within the season!

Edited Friday at 02:30 AM by fireice13

[Raachel2008]

The fact that there are such detailed protocols for that kind of “event” shows  fucked up things are and how “common” mass shootings became.

Robby being all pissed at a Langdon - I get it but really, man? When a pair of extra capable used to trauma/ER  hands could mean the difference between death and life for some of these people?

I didn’t like the scene with Javadi’s mom, you would think a clever woman like her would adapt and not be all pissed off because she didn’t have the right tools.

Triage Asian guy is like the most nonchalant person ever.

No serious reporter/journalist would ever do that. Ever.

I want to be surprised and incel kid not be the shooter, but I feel like the show will go the easiest route - and there were so many anvils.

Someone mentioned Driscoll being the shooter, I don’t think so. The man hit Dana, is a coward and a jerk, but I don’t see him getting a gun and going to a (mostly) young  people festival and shoot a bunch of people.

iI expect that at the end that of this they will show a long take of dead faces in the morgue and people recovering with whatever injuries they had - amputated limbs, colostomy bags, etc, because the message is clear: “this is what happens whiteout gun control”.

Edited Friday at 11:30 PM by Raachel2008

[SoMuchTV]

Yowzers, that was riveting! Even though I know full well that’s not him, I teared up a little bit for Dr. Carter all grown up. You set the tone, man. 

[anna0852]

9 minutes ago, Raachel2008 said:

Robby being all pissed at a Langdon - I get it but really, man? When a pair of extra capable used to trauma/ER  hands could mean the difference between death and life for some of these people?

Except that those hands might be high or impaired right now. And Robby has no way of knowing.

[Raachel2008]

11 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

Except that those hands might be high or impaired right now. And Robby has no way of knowing.

He also had no way of knowing two hours pior when he sent Langdon home, when he had already worked 9 hours. I’m not saying Robby shouldn’t care, but the pros outweighs the cons there.

Forgot to say: Mel deciding to donate blood initiated a domino effect that helped a lot of people.

Abbot, you badass.

[txhorns79]

28 minutes ago, Raachel2008 said:

The fact that there are such detailed protocols for that kind of “event” shows  fucked up things are and how “common” mass shootings became.

In fairness, I don't think the protocol they have is specific to shootings.  It would be for any mass casualty event, like a fire, train derailment, explosion, etc. 

[Infie]

Ep 1.12 - 38.29

Holy shit.  That went incredibly fast (not least becuse it was a very short episode - 7 mins less than average).  Engrossing stuff. 

[Racj82]

 

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Robby being all pissed at a Langdon - I get it but really, man? When a pair of extra capable used to trauma/ER  hands could mean the difference between death and life for some of these people?

He does not know if the man is high. He was working while using unsubscribed meds. He is not just an extra set of hands. He lost the trust that he could get the job done. Mass emergency doesn't just wipe that away. Robbie being mad that he is there against orders but letting him stay is absolutely the right response.

 

I love that all of the newbies stepped up without any major error. Also that Mel was on point. I was worried she was going to flame out. She rocked it.

Edited Friday at 06:00 AM by Racj82

[circumvent]

3 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Robbie being mad that he is there against orders but letting him stay is absolutely the right response.

Except that even Robbie, who is fighting the system that oppresses, know that every single person who dies in that ER, that day, will have a case against the hospital if the situation - doctor might be high on stolen drugs - gets out and Robbie would lose his job, possibly his license. He didn't know before, as soon as he knew he sent Langston home, but then allowing him to come back? 

On the other hand, it conveys the chaos created by situations like that and how people's judgements play a part on how to respond. It is a good thing that the show went there because there is not a satisfactory answer.

[debraran]

It did remind me of MASH although that being in a war zone, a little grittier and they had less.

I didn't like Langdon showing up like that but I'm sure he'll hear about it when the dust settles. This isn't Clooney on ER who was hated by upper management and saves a kid from drowning and they have to accept him begrudgingly. But I know Noah pointed to a heated confrontation and a tired Dr Robby will be not in the best mood I'm sure.

I know Jake will be okay, I at least hope so, but that trailer was just to promote interest not that the show needs it from fans.

5 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

He also had no way of knowing two hours pior when he sent Langdon home, when he had already worked 9 hours. I’m not saying Robby shouldn’t care, but the pros outweighs the cons there.

Forgot to say: Mel deciding to donate blood initiated a domino effect that helped a lot of people.

Abbot, you badass.

IRL liability issues would entail and he doesn't need Santos who already thinks she runs the place, knowing he sent him home and accepted him coming back. He has the excuse of the shooting etc but there is a grey area where he put him on thin ice because what happened didn't happen in a bubble and upper management unless they do a soap opera save by Langdon, doesn't know if he treated the patients well. It's too chaotic. I can see why Noah says they get a very heated discussion later.

[rwlevin]

7 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

The fact that there are such detailed protocols for that kind of “event” shows  fucked up things are and how “common” mass shootings became.

There are protocols for mass casualty events, not just shootings. It could be a train derailment, a multi-car pile up, an earthquake, a toxic spill, etc. it doesn’t matter what caused the event, just that there are mass casualties. Every hospital runs simulations, regardless of what trauma level they are. I did them in residency(I don’t work in a hospital anymore, although we do active shooter drills but that’s something else entirely)

[Empress1]

10 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

That's the "I can't kill you here, but be prepared to discuss this at home," look.

Yup. “… Okay.” Very pointed. She’s going to hear about that. I’m sure it felt good for her to say, though.

That episode flew by. Loved seeing the next shift - I want to know more about the Black doc who said “put me in, Coach.” And I love men who are skilled, so Robby and … Shawn Hatosy (I don’t know his character’s name) stepping up and leading, explaining the protocols, was sexy.

The woman who was shot through the arm conveyed so much with her tears. Those tears said “I just wanted to go to a festival, and …” Very affecting.

[fastiller]

The arrival of the next shift was good to see: our team doesn't work in a vacuum, and they really did need all hands on deck.  I don't recall reading about what the plans are for season 2, but as the next shift started to arrive, I thought that S2 could easily be a smooth transition into their shift.  I know it'd mean a new cast, so it's unlikely.

Was an oddly timed episode (& I promise, I'm not delving into politics here; well, not deeply anyway) with the recent (like within this week) decision to remove from the HHS website the advisory defining gun violence as a public health issue.  Whenever there has been a mass shooting event, I've thought we should see photos of the ER after the victims have been tended to.  Could change a mind or two about strengthening gun laws.

[Notabug]

10 hours ago, fireice13 said:

As a certified Specialist in Blood Banking I loved hearing Robby saying OPOS for males over 13 and females over 55! Although in this situation any unit of Type O available should be used. 

And they instituted a walking blood bank! Fresh whole blood (straight from the donor) is actually very effective for bleeding patients. 

They didn't really discuss the other components - platelets, plasma, cryo - but I get just focusing on the blood in a show like this. 

Really enjoying this show but wondering how they'll wrap up the season. I'm hoping the cliffhangers are only for episode within the season!

I applauded that part, too.  Very realistic and appropriate for a mass casualty incident.  I thought, 'My goodness, they actually had someone tell them about blood utilization in a crisis!'  So many shows ignore the little details that make it more real.

BTW, for those wondering, women who are below the age of menopause should only receive Oneg blood if possible in order to prevent the risk of Rh disease in a future pregnancy.  If an Rh negative patient receives Rh positive blood, they will produce antibodies which can attack the baby's blood cells in a future pregnancy if the baby is Rh positive.  That can cause anemia, heart failure and even death in the baby.

9 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

The fact that there are such detailed protocols for that kind of “event” shows  fucked up things are and how “common” mass shootings became.

These protocols are designed for any sort of mass casualty event, not just shootings.  There is a lot of evidence that developing plans and running drills prior to these sorts of events has resulted in fewer mortalities and better outcomes. The protocols were initially used in the military where shootings were the most typical injury; but they work in virtually any sort of emergency.

That doesn't mean we don't have too dam* many mass shootings in this country because we absolutely do.

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, rwlevin said:

There are protocols for mass casualty events, not just shootings. It could be a train derailment, a multi-car pile up, an earthquake, a toxic spill, etc. it doesn’t matter what caused the event, just that there are mass casualties. Every hospital runs simulations, regardless of what trauma level they are. I did them in residency(I don’t work in a hospital anymore, although we do active shooter drills but that’s something else entirely)

Yep, the hospital system where I worked had protocols for COVID, too; in anticipation of too many patients and not enough staff.  All caregivers had to complete questionnaires about their experience in ICU and ER and we were required to do an on-line course in managing COVID patients. It's been 40 years since I was a resident and had regular ICU experience, thank goodness I was never needed. I did warn my sisters that if they ended up in ICU with COVID and I was their doc, they should make sure their will was up to date.

Active shooter drills in medical facilities have become a sad fact of our lives these days.

Edited Friday at 01:23 PM by Notabug

[debraran]

Nice interview about next season
https://collider.com/the-pitt-season-2-john-wells/

[SeanBug]

9 hours ago, Racj82 said:

 

He does not know if the man is high. He was working while using unsubscribed meds. He is not just an extra set of hands. He lost the trust that he could get the job done. Mass emergency doesn't just wipe that away. Robbie being mad that he is there against orders but letting him stay is absolutely the right response.

 

I love that all of the newbies stepped up without any major error. Also that Mel was on point. I was worried she was going to flame out. She rocked it.

But do we know he was high while on duty, or just that he'd taken meds? And do we know he took them for himself?  He seemed pretty capable of doing his job. 

Is the security officer going to go find Chad? She gave him five minutes and now he's in the breakroom watching a movie with Harrison. 

I really think that before this happened, someone should have taken Santos aside and told her "knock off the nicknames and teasing, and you are not to do anything without checking in with your supervising Resident or Robby. 

[Raachel2008]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

BTW, for those wondering, women who are below the age of menopause should only receive Oneg blood if possible in order to prevent the risk of Rh disease in a future pregnancy.  If an Rh negative patient receives Rh positive blood, they will produce antibodies which can attack the baby's blood cells in a future pregnancy if the baby is Rh positive.  That can cause anemia, heart failure and even death in the baby.

They said males under 13 were getting 0+ too like the woman + 55 - why?

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

These protocols are designed for any sort of mass casualty event, not just shootings.  There is a lot of evidence that developing plans and running drills prior to these sorts of events has resulted in fewer mortalities and better outcomes. The protocols were initially used in the military where shootings were the most typical injury; but they work in virtually any sort of emergency.

Ok, ia that for my untrained eye that seemed really tailored to MS, but of course it serves for a lot of situations.

This is a very interesting Variety article about how they build this episode and they say some stuff was created by the show (like the snap bracelets that apparently are not a thing in real life?). But they also say they have 109 patients from the mass shooting in episodes 22 and 13 and I’m sure I heard Javadi’s mom saying she  was taking victim #148 up to surgery.

 

[anna0852]

11 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

But do we know he was high while on duty, or just that he'd taken meds? And do we know he took them for himself?  He seemed pretty capable of doing his job. 

The fact that those questions are unanswered is reason enough to pull Langdon from duty. And leaving aside whether or not he’s high, he was caught red handed stealing drugs. That’s enough to yank him right there.

[jah1986]

Great episode, great being a relative term, because it was overwhelmingly brutal. I've been involved in several mass casualty simulations, I loved how by the book they were and then just kind of threw the manual away to get to work.

I'm glad McKay's ex was able to see what was happening, he struck me as the kind of guy who never really "got" what she does, why she was late, why she was stressed etc. he needed to see that.

Loved Mel being so take charge and effective, I was worried she was going to be overwhelmed but she was just awesome.

Didn't love Langdon just coming back and jumping in, I understand why but I didn't like it.

I wonder if the shooter will come in as a patient to wreak more havoc. I'm still not 100% convinced it's the son.

Until I saw the previews for next week I was worried about Javadi being on the helipad alone.

Please don't kill Jake. Robby will never be able to work on this date again, maybe not even get out of bed.

[SeanBug]

3 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

The fact that those questions are unanswered is reason enough to pull Langdon from duty. And leaving aside whether or not he’s high, he was caught red handed stealing drugs. That’s enough to yank him right there.

He wasn't caught "red handed".  That term is used when you are caught in the act.  Did Santos see him take pills from the patient?  

He'd have to be acting erratically or get tested for drugs in his system to prove he was high.  Had he done anything wrong during the shift?  

 Robbie found a baggie with some pills in it. No one saw him take anything. IIRC

Not saying he didn't do anything wrong. But a good attorney will tear that argument apart.  Lots of medications looks very similar.  My dog takes Apoquel for allergies. I take a blood pressure medication. The two pills are identical to the blind eye. I'd have to look closely to see if there are identifying marks on either of them. 

 

 

[tennisgurl]

I have been catching up with this show over the last few days, and this was one hell of an episode to reach. Its really been building since the first episode, the troubled teen, talks about a mass casualty event, a general feeling of impending dredd, but it was still so brutal to see. I feel exhausted just watching it. 

It was cool seeing the night staff arrive, I like the guy in charge of the night shift and seeing the doctor from back in episode one again, they all fit into the ensemble seamlessly. Its going to be a very long night. 

The younger doctors all really stepped up, I especially loved sweet little Javadi telling her mom to "read the fucking room" while she was in the thick of it. Even Santos, who I normally cant stand, had some cool moments and she clocked that asshole taking video right away. 

The situation with Langdon is a messy one, Robby really does not have the time to deal with him and getting him to leave and they really do need everyone they can get, so I can get just having to move on and let him work, but there is no way that its ethical to have someone who could be impaired doing work on patients, especially in a crisis. 

I am not sure if the teen was the shooter or not. This show really does a great job at showing things as realistically as possible without dramatic twists so its fully possible that the most likely answer is the right answer, but I am fully open to it being something unrelated. 

The woman crying that she just wanted to go to a fun festival was heartbreaking, because that really is the tragedy of these shootings and mass casualty events. 

Edited Friday at 04:21 PM by tennisgurl

[Empress1]

58 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

The situation with Langdon is a messy one, Robby really does not have the time to deal with him and getting him to leave and they really do need everyone they can get, so I can get just having to move on and let him work, but there is no way that its ethical to have someone who could be impaired doing work on patients, especially in a crisis. 

Can any docs or nurses on the board share what’s supposed to happen? Is there a protocol when clinical staff are suspected of using/stealing drugs? Robby sent Langdon home but I’m sure there are formal procedures in place that he hasn’t followed (yet?).

[Blackie]

15 hours ago, fireice13 said:

As a certified Specialist in Blood Banking I loved hearing Robby saying OPOS for males over 13 and females over 55! Although in this situation any unit of Type O available should be used. 

I was trying to remember my blood bank training. I thought it was because O neg is more rare so save it for where it is really needed like  women that may be pregnant or want to get pregnant . Not quite sure why children need of O neg, maybe just young immune systems more able to make antibodies against different blood types.

2 hours ago, jah1986 said:

I wonder if the shooter will come in as a patient to wreak more havoc. I'm still not 100% convinced it's the son.

Until I saw the previews for next week I was worried about Javadi being on the helipad alone.

 

At first I thought the guy making video was the shooter, then I thought Javadi is going to get decapitated by the helicopter.

[sharifa70]

14 minutes ago, Blackie said:

At first I thought the guy making video was the shooter, then I thought Javadi is going to get decapitated by the helicopter.

Nah, it would just be her arm.

[meep.meep]

Seriously, they don't need to do highlights from the entire run of ER in 16 episodes.  Don't let the helicopters win!

What has happened to Dr. McKay?

[Notabug]

3 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

They said males under 13 were getting 0+ too like the woman + 55 - why?

Ok, ia that for my untrained eye that seemed really tailored to MS, but of course it serves for a lot of situations.

This is a very interesting Variety article about how they build this episode and they say some stuff was created by the show (like the snap bracelets that apparently are not a thing in real life?). But they also say they have 109 patients from the mass shooting in episodes 22 and 13 and I’m sure I heard Javadi’s mom saying she  was taking victim #148 up to surgery.

 

I looked up the Red Cross transfusion protocols when type-specific blood is not available and it seems that they also recommend giving Rh neg blood to male  pediatric patients due to the risk of developing antibodies which can affect future need for transfusions.  However, the Red Cross says that, even if a trauma patient who is Rh negative receives Rh positive blood, their chances of developing antibodies is about 20-30% after a single unit.  Their major emphasis is on avoiding giving Rh positive blood to women of childbearing age if their Rh status is not known and advise that this group be given priority when Rh neg blood supplies are limited.

They maybe don't use slap bracelets at mass casualty emergencies, but putting color coded wristbands or tags on patients to triage them for care is routine and all hospitals have a system for doing it in a mass cas. 

54 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

Can any docs or nurses on the board share what’s supposed to happen? Is there a protocol when clinical staff are suspected of using/stealing drugs? Robby sent Langdon home but I’m sure there are formal procedures in place that he hasn’t followed (yet?).

In real life, there is a meeting between docs and administrators and the doctor in question is not allowed to participate in patient care while the situation is investigated.  He would also have to turn in his ID badge, cell phone, parking pass and anything else that could be used to enter the hospital without detection.

There would be a formal hearing at which the accused could have an attorney who would also be able to defend themselves and refute the evidence.  The hospital is also legally obligated to notify the state medical board of the situation with the physician and, if the evidence is compelling enough, the doc's license to practice would be suspended pending resolution of the case.  Usually, that involves the doc going to an accredited rehab and providing evidence of ongoing outpatient treatment for addiction and undergoing routine drug testing.

3 hours ago, anna0852 said:

The fact that those questions are unanswered is reason enough to pull Langdon from duty. And leaving aside whether or not he’s high, he was caught red handed stealing drugs. That’s enough to yank him right there.

At the point Langdon reappeared, the ER was using medical students to treat non-critical injuries.  Whittaker and Javadi are both med students.  Robby has worked with Langdon closely for several years and, at least up to that point, it seemed like Langdon had shown no signs of impaired medical judgment;  Robby let Langdon stay because he knew the alternative was to let critical patients wait even longer for care.  In a dire emergency, you do what you need to do.

[Racj82]

4 hours ago, anna0852 said:

The fact that those questions are unanswered is reason enough to pull Langdon from duty. And leaving aside whether or not he’s high, he was caught red handed stealing drugs. That’s enough to yank him right there.

Thank you. That's all I'm saying. We don't have all the details. Neither does Dr. Robbie. Because of that, he has to handle this situation a certain way. There are lawsuits and all types of issues he and hospital need to worry about. That's the point. If there is any thought that a doctor is working under the influence, they shouldn't be working. A distracted doctor shouldn't be working. Robbie has a right to worry.

50 minutes ago, Notabug said:

4 hours ago, anna0852 said:

 

At the point Langdon reappeared, the ER was using medical students to treat non-critical injuries.  Whittaker and Javadi are both med students.  Robby has worked with Langdon closely for several years and, at least up to that point, it seemed like Langdon had shown no signs of impaired medical judgment;  Robby let Langdon stay because he knew the alternative was to let critical patients wait even longer for care.  In a dire emergency, you do what you need to do.

No one is even arguing against Langdon staying but the thought of course he should stay, there is a emergency! Is not accurate either. I think Robbie is making the right call but if he made that man go home, I would understand it.

[circumvent]

4 hours ago, SeanBug said:

Not saying he didn't do anything wrong. But a good attorney will tear that argument apart.

Except that he did admitted to being using and/or taking the medication

 

2 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Can any docs or nurses on the board share what’s supposed to happen? Is there a protocol when clinical staff are suspected of using/stealing drugs? Robby sent Langdon home but I’m sure there are formal procedures in place that he hasn’t followed (yet?).

No idea how it works in real life but I believe Robby sent him home and would follow up with a formal incident report (or whatever the documentation is needed)  later. 

There is no way of decisively saying that allowing Langdon to come back is the right or the wrong decision. Like a lot of things in life, it all depends on the outcome, the aftermath, the consequences. If things go well, if he saves a life that would have been lost if not for him, then the decision to allow him back was the right one (and a right decision can be completely different from a correct procedure). If something happens because of him, then it was the wrong decision.

This is the kind of nuance I like in TV writing. 

[xls]

6 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

This is a very interesting Variety article about how they build this episode and they say some stuff was created by the show (like the snap bracelets that apparently are not a thing in real life?).

No, bracelets or stickers print out automatically-with a bar code when we reg a patient by name & DOB.

Only trouble is trying to decipher what the squad wrote- looks like another language most of the time, or they have the name spelled wrong or one digit off in the DOB. It's like a Squid Game

If we put patient in as anonymous or new, the doctor can't see their history! So, they can scream at me, like a dog, all they want-I will leave no stone unturned till I find the right person. because I care

And we don't exist even on medical shows.

[debraran]

I hope some of the old guys and gals from ER do make an appearance one day, even season 3. https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/noah-wyle-reveals-which-er-castmate-hes-reuniting-with-soon-and-says-some-of-them-may-appear-on-the-pitt/ar-AA1BpEA6?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Like MASH, they kept in touch over the decades.

They will need new things for next season and I like the producer is doing the "Law and Order" ripped from the headlines tactic to get up to date issues and problems. Well drugs certainly is a huge one. I have a feeling Langdon will be in a PA approved doctor program for at least a month (carter did 3) and then slowly transition back.

 

[iMonrey]

2 hours ago, circumvent said:

Except that he did admitted to being using and/or taking the medication

If I recall correctly he said he was taking Lithium to ween himself off of pain medication. But Lithium has a tranquilizing affect like Valium, which would make it dangerous for a doctor to be on. He might not be technically "high" but it's the difference between being on narcotics versus benzos. I don't think you'd want your doctor to be on either one.

[Raachel2008]

4 hours ago, circumvent said:

There is no way of decisively saying that allowing Langdon to come back is the right or the wrong decision. Like a lot of things in life, it all depends on the outcome, the aftermath, the consequences. If things go well, if he saves a life that would have been lost if not for him, then the decision to allow him back was the right one (and a right decision can be completely different from a correct procedure). If something happens because of him, then it was the wrong decision.

I think the point of Langdon coming back for this major disaster is to "remember" Robby what a fine doctor he (Langdon) is. Robby was pissed off and uterly betrayed by Langdon and didn't care at all that he did he things he did (when Langdon said a junkie couldn't do what he does). I think the idea there is for Robbie to remember that just firing Langdon won't help anyone and that he is a doctor worth "saving" - sending him to rehab etc.

1 hour ago, xls said:

No, bracelets or stickers print out automatically-with a bar code when we reg a patient by name & DOB.

Just reporting what they said:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/the-pitt-episode-12-exclusive-awards-insider

 https://variety.com/2025/artisans/news/the-pitt-production-design-episode-12-mass-shooting-1236339828/

1 hour ago, xls said:

And we don't exist even on medical shows.

By "we" you mean...?

Edited Friday at 11:52 PM by Raachel2008

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

If I recall correctly he said he was taking Lithium to ween himself off of pain medication. But Lithium has a tranquilizing affect like Valium, which would make it dangerous for a doctor to be on. He might not be technically "high" but it's the difference between being on narcotics versus benzos. I don't think you'd want your doctor to be on either one.

Langdon wasn't taking Lithium, a drug used to treat bipolar disorder.  He was taking Librium, a benzodiazepine, in the same family as Valium.  Besides being sedating, benzodiazepines are muscle relaxants and I believe he said he got addicted to them after being prescribed Valium for a bad back.  I expect he was taking the Librium mainly because it was easy to access since it is commonly prescribed for alcohol withdrawal.  

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By "we" you mean...?

I think they are referring to the Health Unit Coordinator, AKA HUC; the position that used to be called the unit secretary. HUC's are vital to the function of all hospital units and none more so than the ER.  They keep track of staff and patients, answer the phone, handle inquiries from patients and families and friends.  They call in specialists for consultations, they contact staff to try to fill openings when someone calls off or extra help is needed. They are on top of where each piece of equipment is stored and whether it is in working order and who to call and where to go if something is needed.  They make sure the patient's basic data is entered into the electronic medical record and a new chart started or an old chart retrieved for a new encounter.  They keep the train on the tracks.  We used to see quite a bit of them on old ER; but not so much on this show.

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1 hour ago, Raachel2008 said:

I think the point of Langdon coming back for this major disaster is to "remember" Robby what a fine doctor he (Langdon) is. Robby was pissed off and uterly betrayed by Langdon and didn't care at all that he did he things he did (when Langdon said a junkie couldn't do what he does). I think the idea there is for Robbie to remember that just firing Langdon won't help anyone and that he is a doctor worth "saving" - sending him to rehab etc.

Just reporting what they said: https://variety.com/2025/artisans/news/the-pitt-production-design-episode-12-mass-shooting-1236339828/

By "we" you mean...?

Registration clerks 

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20 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

Yowzers, that was riveting! Even though I know full well that’s not him, I teared up a little bit for Dr. Carter all grown up. You set the tone, man. 

THIS ❤️

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5 hours ago, circumvent said:

There is no way of decisively saying that allowing Langdon to come back is the right or the wrong decision. Like a lot of things in life, it all depends on the outcome, the aftermath, the consequences. If things go well, if he saves a life that would have been lost if not for him, then the decision to allow him back was the right one (and a right decision can be completely different from a correct procedure). If something happens because of him, then it was the wrong decision.

This is the kind of nuance I like in TV writing. 

Yes.  It was similar to Robby's decision to allow Mel to donate blood meant to go directly to the patient even though it couldn't be tested for HIV and other diseases. He weighed the pros and cons and felt the pros outweighed the cons. 

9 hours ago, SeanBug said:

He wasn't caught "red handed".  That term is used when you are caught in the act.  Did Santos see him take pills from the patient?  

He'd have to be acting erratically or get tested for drugs in his system to prove he was high.  Had he done anything wrong during the shift?  

 Robbie found a baggie with some pills in it. No one saw him take anything. IIRC

No. Santos suspected him of taking an injectable.  Robby found pills.  He asked Dana to do an audit of his medicine requests which I assume she hasn't gotten to with everything else going on.

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I'm glad I have a medical drama to look forward to again. All if these current medical dramas on network tv ain't it for me. I still watch Grey's but I don't look forward to it. I had a time when early Grey's, later ER and House were all on TV. I miss that.

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1 hour ago, Racj82 said:

I'm glad I have a medical drama to look forward to again. All if these current medical dramas on network tv ain't it for me. I still watch Grey's but I don't look forward to it. I had a time when early Grey's, later ER and House were all on TV. I miss that.

Yeah, I must admit with all my nit picking I watch the latest episode as soon as it drops!😉

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14 hours ago, fastiller said:

The arrival of the next shift was good to see: our team doesn't work in a vacuum, and they really did need all hands on deck.  I don't recall reading about what the plans are for season 2, but as the next shift started to arrive, I thought that S2 could easily be a smooth transition into their shift.  I know it'd mean a new cast, so it's unlikely.

I wouldn't want season 2 to be a continuation of this day. I do like the idea of the season 2 showing the night shift on a different day, with some of the characters we know and some new characters. For people who actually work in hospitals, is this possible? Could someone who normally works day shift take a night shift? 

12 hours ago, jah1986 said:

Loved Mel being so take charge and effective, I was worried she was going to be overwhelmed but she was just awesome.

I'm actually curious to see how she handles this. For someone who jumps to worst case scenario being in this kind of scenario has some real dramatic possibilities. 

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10 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

I wouldn't want season 2 to be a continuation of this day. I do like the idea of the season 2 showing the night shift on a different day, with some of the characters we know and some new characters. For people who actually work in hospitals, is this possible? Could someone who normally works day shift take a night shift? 

Absolutely.  Every hospital ER has both day and night shifts and much of the staff would rotate between the two.  Residents are required to get experience working nights and weekends in addition to day shift and would regularly do a rotation on the night shift.  Same thing with attendings like Robby.  Sometimes the more senior attendings don't have to work as many nights, weekends and holidays as the younger docs, but they'd still be expected to do some off-shifts.

Nursing is a little different as not all nurses rotate shifts.  Working days is usually based on seniority, so the nurses who've been there a while might not be required to rotate to nights.  There are also those rare birds who really love working nights and opt to stay on that shift permanently rather than rotate to days.

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3 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

I wouldn't want season 2 to be a continuation of this day. I do like the idea of the season 2 showing the night shift on a different day, with some of the characters we know and some new characters. For people who actually work in hospitals, is this possible? Could someone who normally works day shift take a night shift? 

I like the idea of a night shift and I would love to see some of the folks we got to know this episode, like Abbot, Chen, Ellis. They can mix and match next season and IMO the ideal timeframe would be 3 months from now - enough time for they recover as a team from the experience of a mass shooting, enough time for some new traumas settle in. It would be enough time for Robby to get the help he really needed If they decide to keep Langdon, it would work for a rehab stint. It would also mean that Javadi and Whitaker are no so green anymore.

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1 hour ago, Raachel2008 said:

I like the idea of a night shift and I would love to see some of the folks we got to know this episode, like Abbot, Chen, Ellis. They can mix and match next season and IMO the ideal timeframe would be 3 months from now - enough time for they recover as a team from the experience of a mass shooting, enough time for some new traumas settle in. It would be enough time for Robby to get the help he really needed If they decide to keep Langdon, it would work for a rehab stint. It would also mean that Javadi and Whitaker are no so green anymore.

That's what the producer is thinking, depending on plots 2 months could work, but 3 might be better. I think 3 is fine, most lives are boring in that a lot of things don't happen hourly, it's like watching paint dry.  : )

We know Frank goes away and and he and Noah have a big blowout and I get that, he defies him in a way that makes it very hard to send him home. I was disappointed when Noah on a talk show said "Oh our next encounter wont be as emotional as that clip they showed, anger and tears. I also get he will be exhausted and I understand.

In knowing and seeing addicts during my life, in hospital and out, they lie. They lie a lot. I'm not saying Langdon is but I wouldn't be surprised. There are thousands of interviews online and stories of addicts that were doctor's, nurses, etc and they lie to themselves and they lie to others. I'm sorry, if he was so "barely an addict" he should have asked for help. Carter in ER also lied, also thought he was fine, pointed out how he helped others, helped someone not make a mistake with patient and they just stared at him. Doesn't change his condition.

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