Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[Gramto6]

Oh boo hoo, Crybrows! Another thing you don't know how to do is cry!! She is a piece of work!! And a bad actress!!

[dariafan]

Did she bawl her eyes out not being invited to Christine’s wedding ??  And not understand why she wasn’t ??

[Roslyn]

1 hour ago, Kellyee said:

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-sneak-peek-robyn-brown-says-being-happy-with-kody-feels-disrespectful-exclusive-216512

If my eyes roll any harder, they are going to end up in the back of my head.

Robyn REALLY wants to be center of attention. She actually expects the 3 ex-wives of her current husband and their children to comfort HER. 

And there were still no tears, but I noticed her nose turned really red.

Translation? "" Iffin they are gonna leave then they need to have a conversation with ME""

Also "" They are disrespecting ME as their sister wife by not going through ME to leave ""

"" I am NOT letting go of this until THEY face ME and say they are leaving ME ""

...Me..sniff. sniff. ME...me...

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...sniff

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... me

[Absolom]

Online tabloidy I know, but supposedly taken from Mykelti's latest Patreon:

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2023/12/13/mykelti-brown-says-robyn-kody-brown-are-currently-depressed-they-both-need-help/

I found this quote interesting: losing his home.

Have Kody and Robyn truly lost the house or did she throw him out?  Or was Mykelti mistaken or misquoted?

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“…it all comes back to depression, 100 percent,” Mykelti said. “I think my dad losing his faith, losing his family, losing his home, losing everything he knows has added to the depression, so it’s honestly been a long time coming.”

Edited December 14, 2023 by Absolom
Trying to fix spacing.

[Gramto6]

Losing the house immediately caught my eye too! It wouldn't surprise me though with the OG3 pulling out their monetary contributions, K&R have to be hurting. Can Kootie bring in enough $$ from is gun shows to keep up payments? We know Crybrows is too "pretty" to do much of anything except fake cry and sleep in.

It really sounds like the show has run its course given the specials this month rehashing for the seventy billionth time their "story". I doubt Christine's wedding is going to pay K&R anything... so there ends the money flow.

I just don't see how this show can continue as it stands now. Just one wive does not make Sister Wives! 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Gramto6

[xwordfanatik]

Apparently, Kootie and Crybrows spent 60 grand on a heated driveway.

These people spend like there's no tomorrow.  I doubt they've lost the McMansion.  Mykelti is trying to drum up sympathy for them, so she must be aware how disliked the toxic twosome are.

Haha, to not be invited to Christine's wedding and not get paid for the special!  I hope that is true.  

[Shelbie]

4 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

Oh boo hoo, Crybrows! Another thing you don't know how to do is cry!! She is a piece of work!! And a bad actress!!

She is a dreadful actress and continues to believe that fake crying will get viewers on her side.

[Roslyn]

3 hours ago, Absolom said:

Online tabloidy I know, but supposedly taken from Mykelti's latest Patreon:

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2023/12/13/mykelti-brown-says-robyn-kody-brown-are-currently-depressed-they-both-need-help/

I found this quote interesting: losing his home.

Have Kody and Robyn truly lost the house or did she throw him out?  Or was Mykelti mistaken or misquoted?

I suspect "losing his home" is in reference to Christine "taking his house" away from him and Janelle not giving him a house. Now he is stuck with all his stuff to deal with.

[Orcinus orca]

And he can always move into his barndominium.  Useless trash both upstairs and downstairs.

[Kellyee]

It annoys me when the media says that Kody's 3 wives left him. Meri didn't leave Kody. Kody shoved Meri out of the family. That's a very important detail that makes Kody look a lot less sympathetic. 

[Elizzikra]

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I doubt they've lost the McMansion. 

I see it as inevitable and I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner...

[surfgirl]

12 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Mykelti is trying to drum up sympathy for them, so she must be aware how disliked the toxic twosome are.

This. I believe Mykelti and FT about as much as I believe Douche and SobBrows. 

[Rabbit Hutch]

2 hours ago, surfgirl said:

This. I believe Mykelti and FT about as much as I believe Douche and SobBrows. 

Couldn't agree with you more.  These two have a family to feed and business to profit from.  Bottom feeders, the both of them.  😒

[vibeology]

21 hours ago, Kellyee said:

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-sneak-peek-robyn-brown-says-being-happy-with-kody-feels-disrespectful-exclusive-216512

If my eyes roll any harder, they are going to end up in the back of my head.

Robyn REALLY wants to be center of attention. She actually expects the 3 ex-wives of her current husband and their children to comfort HER. 

And there were still no tears, but I noticed her nose turned really red.

She's just wild. The insistence that they have to have a face to face off-camera conversation is just wild.

Christine and Janelle have set boundaries. (I don't know about Meri.) They have both said that if Robyn is at a family event they will be cordial but they are not seeking out a relationship with her and will not choose to interact with her. It's the same sort of boundary Garrison said he (and likely some of the other kids) were setting at that dinner where they discussed the text chain. Robyn says they're mean and awful so by cutting off interaction that won't be a problem anymore.

Only, Robyn loves the drama and the opportunity to play victim. Cutting her off was the worst thing that could happen to her. How can she be oppressed and bullied if no one is talking to her? So she's moved the goalposts and wants to make it so that Christine and Janelle (and likely the kids) have to speak with her without a record of what was said so that she can twist the event and get her victim status back.

They won't talk to her so she's trying to create a situation where either that fact alone makes her the victim or she manipulates them into giving her the attention and victim status that she craves. It's genuinely sick.

[ladle]

Crucial question: I finally have some time to catch up on this shitshow over the holidays but I'm a few seasons behind. Where do I need to start? I was just going to dive into the current season, but the episode descriptions for Season 17 make it seem pretty juicy... 

 

 

[Orcinus orca]

On 12/14/2023 at 12:09 PM, Kellyee said:

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-sneak-peek-robyn-brown-says-being-happy-with-kody-feels-disrespectful-exclusive-216512

If my eyes roll any harder, they are going to end up in the back of my head.

Robyn REALLY wants to be center of attention. She actually expects the 3 ex-wives of her current husband and their children to comfort HER. 

And there were still no tears, but I noticed her nose turned really red.

What a load of hogwash.  So the ex-wives are now responsible for ensuring Sobbyn's happiness by following her orders to bow down to her IN PERSON and pledge on bended knee that they release her from any bonds?  

First of all, you are flat out responsible for the demise of this harem.  Second of all, you are responsible for your own happiness.  Nobody owes you anything, bitch.  You are not a toddler that needs mommy to stroke your ego and make it all better.  Just one more try at being the queen and forcing the peasants to follow orders.

Take your box of tissues and beat it.

[goofygirl]

On 12/14/2023 at 5:09 PM, Kellyee said:

It annoys me when the media says that Kody's 3 wives left him. Meri didn't leave Kody. Kody shoved Meri out of the family. That's a very important detail that makes Kody look a lot less sympathetic. 

And he basically has said on every single occasion that he "never loved Christine" and that "Christine was a sucky sister wife" and on and on.  You'd think he'd be HAPPY Christine took off back to Utah but no....

Everything bad that's happened is Christine's fault.  I think if a dang meteor hit the McMansion, it would be CHRISTINE's FAULT.

He's just pissed that she got smooth away from his crazy ass.

[General Days]

On 12/14/2023 at 12:09 PM, Kellyee said:

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-sneak-peek-robyn-brown-says-being-happy-with-kody-feels-disrespectful-exclusive-216512

If my eyes roll any harder, they are going to end up in the back of my head.

Robyn REALLY wants to be center of attention. She actually expects the 3 ex-wives of her current husband and their children to comfort HER. 

And there were still no tears, but I noticed her nose turned really red.

 

I cannot get over how often and how intensely Robyn has made the end of the other women's "marriages" about her. It's stunning.

In their type of polygynous marital framework, there is a spiritual marriage of sorts between all of the partners. I do understand Robyn would have feelings, even strong ones, about the end of the plural marriages, but it would serve her and her children well for her to acknowledge that she still isn't central to the drama of each individual relationship.

Kody has repeated the lie so often, about his other wives "blaming" Robyn, that Robyn has come to believe it. 

Meri, Janelle, and Christine have always made it a point to specify that it was Kody's unequal treatment of them, and Kody playing favorites, that was the/a major factor in the breakdown of their unions. They've never said Robyn caused it, at least not on the show — as far as I can remember.

Now, in the heat of a private argument with Kody, have any of the OG3 ever sounded off about Robyn (and the other wives)? I'd bet money on it. However, in the cold light of day, they've all made it clear that it was Kody they couldn't live with.

And since there were more years of Meri and Janelle not being able to stand each other, than there were years of them trying to work it out, I believe they could have lived with Robyn being the favorite, if Kody had made a half-assed effort at fairness.

It's funny (okay, or ENRAGING) how polygamy is supposed to rub the rough edges off of the women's characters, but when Kody is faced with the "dissolution of [his] soul," he eager to skip the grinning and bearing it. He's eager to abandon the notion of leading his family through it, and coming out the other side a better man. 

I understand Robyn is the love of his life, and his "soulmate" or whatever. Fine. Enjoy each other. But in repeating the lie that the women blame Robyn (instead of Kody, whom they actually blame), he's not only harming his first three wives and their children. He's harming the wife of his heart, too. 

Kody has to know Robyn well enough by now to understand that she is comfortable in the role of victim. Feeding that impulse to let her pose as victim — spinning every situation so that she can act the victim, whether or not she is, is not good for her, and it is not good for their marriage. 

I can't help but think this is Kody's big, hollow victory. He helping his favorite wife transform into someone who will ultimately portray herself as Kody's victim. Kody hates to be blamed even more than he hates poverty.

 

On 12/14/2023 at 6:09 PM, Kellyee said:

It annoys me when the media says that Kody's 3 wives left him. Meri didn't leave Kody. Kody shoved Meri out of the family. That's a very important detail that makes Kody look a lot less sympathetic. 

 

Right?! He basically shoved out Christine and Janelle, too. Those two were just smart enough (okay, Christine was smart enough, I'm not yet convinced Janelle won't end up back with Kody, someday) to realize they were being shoved — to see their "marriages" for the shams they were and/or had become.

The kicker is, Kody's mindset (probably because of both the cult and his pathological refusal to shoulder any blame) is such that he thinks the women leaving him makes him MORE sympathetic.

Kody was content to keep pretending Meri was his "wife," until she forced the issue, and he said (about her, and previously about Christine, I seem to recall) that he "didn't want that judgment" on him for ending the marriages.

[ladle]

16 hours ago, ladle said:

Crucial question: I finally have some time to catch up on this shitshow over the holidays but I'm a few seasons behind. Where do I need to start? I was just going to dive into the current season, but the episode descriptions for Season 17 make it seem pretty juicy... 

 

 

Update: I started with season 17, and this is GOOD STUFF. It’s truly (truely?) a level of wish-fulfillment for viewers that I never thought I’d see. 
 

That said, I have a crucial question: when did Robyn start adopting the aesthetic of a cartoon villain? 

[General Days]

40 minutes ago, ladle said:

That said, I have a crucial question: when did Robyn start adopting the aesthetic of a cartoon villain? 

 

It seems like destiny. Like she was a villain altogether from day one. 😉

Edited December 16, 2023 by General Days

[General Days]

 

#GraphicDesignIsMyPassion

[xwordfanatik]

Proof that Crybrows wanted to erase Christine.  Gawd, that drawing is creepy!

[Absolom]

Today on tiktok Maddie said her name draw this year was Padon.  So the non-Robyn kids seem to be continuing their traditions without concern over Robyn's issues.

[goofygirl]

Good for them.  They seem more mature about the subject than Crybrows and the Douchecanoe.

I'm not surprised.  That gnat flying around has more sense than they do.

[ladle]

On 12/14/2023 at 6:09 PM, Kellyee said:

It annoys me when the media says that Kody's 3 wives left him. Meri didn't leave Kody. Kody shoved Meri out of the family. That's a very important detail that makes Kody look a lot less sympathetic. 

Yes! Catching up on the show now, and as of Season 17, Kody is saying that his relationship was Meri isn't a husband/wife relationship and that it isn't fulfilling for Meri. He doesn't seem to care to do anything about that, and isn't even pretending that he was still going over to her house. Arguably, he's been nudging Christine out for years as well. He he hasn't even tried to hide his disdain for Christine or the fact that he doesn't love her and isn't attracted to her. For. Years. In the episode where Christine tells him she's leaving and he asks her not to, she literally says "Do you love me?" and he can't even answer in the affirmative. What on earth does he expect!?  

This passive aggressive, selfish manchild makes me SO angry. 

[MMEButterfly]

What is on tonight?

[Joan of Argh]

As usual I think Mykelti is a total moron if she actually thinks Crybrows is depressed and crying over losing her sister wives and family.

I think Crybrows is depressed and crying because she knows that most of the fans think she’s a nasty selfish manipulative bitch and nothing she says can change that!

Her tears are all for herself.

[js9548]

When was the tell all filmed, especially part 4 with David? It must have been before the wedding took place this fall. Just curious since we are still about a year and a half behind in real time sequence.

Edited December 18, 2023 by js9548

[Roslyn]

2 hours ago, js9548 said:

When was the tell all filmed, especially part 4 with David? It must have been before the wedding took place this fall. Just curious since we are still about a year and a half behind in real time sequence.

Tell alls are usually filmed around the time that the season premiers. So July/August ?

[Irate Panda]

I imagine the “losing his home” reference is the house that Christine sold.  As much as Robyn and Kody might go on their QVC and tacky art benders, is there any real proof that they’re (going)  “broke”? I guess they may pay their property taxes late but that doesn’t seem like anything new.  

Basically with their show money, cameos, and whatever the hell Kody does for his “businesses” I don’t understand why they couldn’t live on that.  It seems like they been going “bankrupt” for 10-15 years.

While Robyn and Kody deserve nothing (the little chicken tenders are not included they should be taken care of) it seems like Kody and Robyn just continue on being able to live their garishly decorated life in a semi-comfortable way.  Although I’d love to know what their storage bill is each month 🤭 

Was any of their financial stuff blabbed on that Tik Tok page that speculating on stuff a while back?

[General Days]

6 hours ago, js9548 said:

When was the tell all filmed, especially part 4 with David? It must have been before the wedding took place this fall. Just curious since we are still about a year and a half behind in real time sequence.

 

4 hours ago, Roslyn said:

Tell alls are usually filmed around the time that the season premiers. So July/August ?

 

That's right.

This year, the tell-all was filmed in July.

I can't remember where I saw this (maybe Reddit, but maybe someone just mentioned it on Mykelti's watch party or something), but you know at the beginning of each segment of the One on One, after they come back from commercial, how they'll sort of show the set, and sometimes cameras and monitors from the director's point of view, then zoom in on the interview set with Suki and whichever Brown?

Someone saw a July date on a screen, or a clapperboard, or something and shared a screenshot of it.

Gwendlyn got married on July 15th. All of the parents were in town for it, so it is possible they came to town early enough ahead of the wedding, or stayed long enough after the wedding, to do the One on Ones during the same trip.

I am hoping with the special episode that is supposed to air in January, that will bump the timeline up to at least October 2023. The lag has done the series no favors.

[xwordfanatik]

10 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

As usual I think Mykelti is a total moron if she actually thinks Crybrows is depressed and crying over losing her sister wives and family.

I think Crybrows is depressed and crying because she knows that most of the fans think she’s a nasty selfish manipulative bitch and nothing she says can change that!

Her tears are all for herself.

Standing O for this comment!  😻

[ginger90]

Just checking, have I mentioned lately that I can’t stand Mykelti? 🧐 

[xwordfanatik]

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Just checking, have I mentioned lately that I can’t stand Mykelti? 🧐 

Come sit next to me.  

[Roslyn]

1 hour ago, General Days said:

 

 

That's right.

This year, the tell-all was filmed in July.

I can't remember where I saw this (maybe Reddit, but maybe someone just mentioned it on Mykelti's watch party or something), but you know at the beginning of each segment of the One on One, after they come back from commercial, how they'll sort of show the set, and sometimes cameras and monitors from the director's point of view, then zoom in on the interview set with Suki and whichever Brown?

Someone saw a July date on a screen, or a clapperboard, or something and shared a screenshot of it.

Gwendlyn got married on July 15th. All of the parents were in town for it, so it is possible they came to town early enough ahead of the wedding, or stayed long enough after the wedding, to do the One on Ones during the same trip.

I am hoping with the special episode that is supposed to air in January, that will bump the timeline up to at least October 2023. The lag has done the series no favors.

Well based on a few comments just above me I think I am not alone declaring that I would be THRILLED to jump over the Mykelti making twins story arc.

[ladle]

You know you've been watching too much of this show when someone at work asks your opinion of something and your first impulse is to reply, "I fill like it's a bunch of bull-crap." 

[OlderThanDirt]

What did Kody say about Christine forcing Mykelti to shut Robyn out in order to have a relationship with C&D?  I kind of tuned out when he was talking but that seemed different from what we've seen this season. Of course the time lag between the season and the tell alls may have something to do with it. I suspect the Wooleys are more generous grandparents than the Precious Memories. 

[laurakaye]

I tuned it out too because by that point he was sounding like the teacher on a Charlie Brown tv special (if you don't know, please exit my lawn) but it almost seemed like Kody was pre-emptively dismissing Mykelti before she could do it to him like the majority of her siblings have.  Mykelti is the one non-Robyn child he's on speaking terms with, so I'm not sure what he thinks he's accomplishing.  He should shut his pie hole and be thankful that there is one kid who pretends to tolerate his Queen.

The bottom line with the trio of Kody, Robyn and Mykelti is that all three are playing each other, and each one thinks they have the upper hand.  I find it amusing that Mykelti is pretending to be the self-sacrificing "bridge" between family members that not only don't need a bridge, they want to set the bridge on fire.

[Roslyn]

2 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I tuned it out too because by that point he was sounding like the teacher on a Charlie Brown tv special (if you don't know, please exit my lawn) but it almost seemed like Kody was pre-emptively dismissing Mykelti before she could do it to him like the majority of her siblings have.  Mykelti is the one non-Robyn child he's on speaking terms with, so I'm not sure what he thinks he's accomplishing.  He should shut his pie hole and be thankful that there is one kid who pretends to tolerate his Queen.

The bottom line with the trio of Kody, Robyn and Mykelti is that all three are playing each other, and each one thinks they have the upper hand.  I find it amusing that Mykelti is pretending to be the self-sacrificing "bridge" between family members that not only don't need a bridge, they want to set the bridge on fire.

Things that make you go "hmmm..."

Right around the time of this season Gwen was kinda harsh towards Kody in her Patreon. Then at one point people noted that she suddenly became more apologetic towards Kody. And shortly after she admitted that recently Kody gave her and Myketi a large sum of money. What makes you go Hmmm is that was the same time she became symptomatic towards Kody but also Kody would have seen this at the Tell All when Mykelti was "bad talking" him (in his mind).

A stretch...but it makes you wonder.

[ginger90]

Gwen mentioned that Kody gave her and Ysabel money to help them with college. At some point both Mykelti and Gwen were asked to not include some content because it would jeopardize the show. For Mykelti it was talking about Meri and the abuse accusations. At another point Paedon stated he had more to say but wouldn’t until the show was done because it provides an income for his family. All this to say, I don’t think the money Kody gave has anything to do with what is or isn’t being put out there.

[NoWhammies]

Kody should be giving them money for college  — that's what fathers do. So good for him for at least being that responsible. But you know — when I gave my kids money for college, I never asked for anything in return. I suspect with Kody, there are always strings attached. I know this personality type. I had a rich grandma who would give us money for things as teens/young adults. There were always strings attached. 

Edited December 19, 2023 by NoWhammies

[ginger90]

Clip, if the link works:

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1394562854823320

[Gramto6]

He actually says "I'm not nice."!!! But he thinks that's OK because poor guy has gone through 3 divorces in one year. I think you answered your own question why that happened...You're NOT NICE!!  Douche bag!!

Edited December 27, 2023 by Gramto6
typo

[65mickey]

Robyn is really afraid that he is going to say something that he can't take back and it will make things even worse for the two of them. Loved that she put her hands over his mouth to hush him up.  Maybe next time she will bust him in the mouth. Robyn is no brain but even she knows that Kody is out of control with his anger and it is not helping their situation. 

[laurakaye]

With Kody's rage issues, I would be very hesitant to put my hands over his mouth like that - nor would I take kindly to someone doing it to me.  It's a very demonstrative way to make the other person literally shut up.  It's dismissive and humiliating and if Robyn thinks it's cute somehow, it's not.  It's also disturbing.  There is something really weird going on there between those two. 

[Gramto6]

Another thing I noticed in that clip. The person asked Koootie something like "why don't they just don't come out and admit Crybrows is the favorite and Kootie only loves her?" Kootie is pissed and says the guy has been only watching 20 hours of show and that he is visiting too many forums... "Sure we like each other"... and kind of shakes his head seemingly saying they are not deeply in love with each other.  Could it be that he and Crybrows are not really as "close" as they are trying to portray? Crybrows body language is kind of reinforcing that idea lately... there may be trouble in paradise after all...

Edited December 27, 2023 by Gramto6
typo

[Orcinus orca]

21 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

Could it be that he and Crybrows are not really as "close" as they are trying to portray? Crybrows body language is kind of reinforcing that idea lately... there may be trouble in paradise after all...

I have felt that way for a while.  If he were truly "in luvvvv" with her, he would be glad the others left and he can devote himself to the Dark Queen exclusively.  No more worrying about the pesky other wives and kids, he can shine his brilliant light on his One and Only.  I think all of this devotion crap is for the show.  

His beaming smile as they dance at their wedding is the same one that he had on his face while dancing with Meri at hers.  Sobbyn is just the latest model and once she is saddled with his 'roid raging manchild for a while, I can see her bailing out as well.  Without a steady flow of cash from the show, he's going to lose it big time and she'll be the only one in the line of fire.

[65mickey]

36 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

With Kody's rage issues, I would be very hesitant to put my hands over his mouth like that - nor would I take kindly to someone doing it to me.  It's a very demonstrative way to make the other person literally shut up.  It's dismissive and humiliating and if Robyn thinks it's cute somehow, it's not.  It's also disturbing.  There is something really weird going on there between those two. 

I don't think she thinks it's cute. I think she is terrified about what he is going to say and he doesn't listen to reason. He is going to say what he is going to say and he doesn't give a damn. So this is the only way that she can shut him up. He acts like a spoiled stubborn child and she treats him like one. If it were anyone else other than Kody I might find find it disturbing. But it's Kody who doesn't care how he humiliates and dismisses his OG "wives." No sympathy for him in the least.

[Kellyee]

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His beaming smile as they dance at their wedding is the same one that he had on his face while dancing with Meri at hers.  Sobbyn is just the latest model and once she is saddled with his 'roid raging manchild for a while, I can see her bailing out as well. 

Meri was old cow. Robyn is new cow, but she is probably also the last cow, because Kody is not attractive enough or wealthy or famous enough at this point to get another new cow. 

I think both Kody and Robyn have behaviors that drive each other crazy, and I think both of them wish Kody had somewhere else to spend part of his time. 

 

 

 

 

[laurakaye]

47 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I don't think she thinks it's cute. I think she is terrified about what he is going to say and he doesn't listen to reason. He is going to say what he is going to say and he doesn't give a damn. So this is the only way that she can shut him up. He acts like a spoiled stubborn child and she treats him like one. If it were anyone else other than Kody I might find find it disturbing. But it's Kody who doesn't care how he humiliates and dismisses his OG "wives." No sympathy for him in the least.

Oh, definitely no sympathy at all for either of them.  They made their bed, now they get to wallow in it.

You make good points.  I also think Robyn is quite terrified about what the end of the show will mean to her.  She'll have to give up the mansion, the figurines, the questionable artwork, the Yurman rings, and maybe - gasp - get a job herself.  Unthinkable.

Meanwhile, I'm guessing that Kody is enough of a narcissist to to imagine the show will go on forever because he's in it, no matter how unhinged he becomes.

What a pair.  They so deserve each other.