S09.E03: He Said, She Said

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The girls decide Taylor needs a good old-fashioned Southern soiree, swapping tales and spillin' tea; Shep kills the fun, however, when he delivers a scandalous rumor to Olivia's front door.

Airdate: 09.28.23

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[Chicklet]

These people confuse me a whole lot. The new guy is diabetic and all he does now is test his blood sugar. Enthralling tv right there, and he's annoying.

Olivia is now upset with Taylor because she had a thought that she might want to have a relationship with idiot boy? Thought crimes are now a problem. She's upset because her friend didn't tell her she wanted to think about a relationship with her ex? I guess that's what it was. I am still not sure.

Craig and Paige might break up because business is too good and she knows nobody in Charleston?

 

[Marley]

I don’t like any of the girls really. Boring and lame. Taylor is not interesting. Olivia is not interesting and her relationship with Austen was fake so who cares.

Madison is acting like she’s perfect and some stepford wife.

I will never ever ever get Austen’s appeal. He’s a stupid douche.

Yea I’m sure Craig is just so hands on he has to be at the warehouse in Charleston 24-7. Like please who is buying this fake shit.

Watching JT check his blood sugar is not interesting. He needed to stop saying mommy too.

What a riveting cliff hanger 2 ppl who are barely friends are upset one of them hooked up with the others her fake tv ex.

What a horrible episode.

[Marley]

Somehow posted twice. Not sure how this happened.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Marley
Accidentally posted same thing twice.

[SuprSuprElevated]

I don't really have a problem with any of these women (Madison excepted-not buying this thinly veiled redemption arc), but exactly none of them have a compelling life/storyline for television imo. Same for the men. Despite this episode's conscious effort at steering us away from OGSC (Pat, Whitless, TRav etc.), in an attempt at relevancy for this boring group...

...nah.

The forced filming opportunities are so unnatural and not belivable. (Olivia's new guy with Austen - seriously?) JT facetiming his mom while shooting his ass with insulin, on camera?

And all these people who pretended to give a crap about Katherine last season(s)- not so much as a mention.

Really just a weird show now.

 

Edited September 29, 2023 by SuprSuprElevated

[Caseysgirl]

No one on this show seems authentic.Sure, 30 something women are having “Southern Soirée’s” ( they can’t even pronounce it, let alone know what it is). They are airheads & the guys are douches.  By the way, drinking like he does & then shooting himself with insulin ( through his jeans, yet!) doesn’t seem like JT’s mommy did a very good job of teaching him healthy habits.  Shep doesn’t care a whit about whether Taylor & Austin are together but it gave everyone a storyline but this is not VPR.

[Chicklet]

New idiot boy (I cannot bother to remember names) needs to have a public service crawler at the bottom of the screen when he is injecting insulin through his pants stating "don't do this". And stop drinking, you admitted that it's not smart and you shouldn't do it.

Hey but I'm sure all the other idiots will visit him in the hospital when his kidneys give out in 10 years.

[bosawks]

These men are so awful that the caliber of women they can get to be fake girlfriends is severely compromised.....

[pasdetrois]

10 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Really just a weird show now.

Hey, maybe AI is producing the show. Disconnected and disjointed.

Edited September 29, 2023 by pasdetrois

[heatherchandler]

This show just SUCKS. Contrived and boring.  Trying hard to make something out of absolutely nothing.  Why am I watching people slump around hung over?  
 

Fuck Shep noting that the bird he just shot is a beautiful bird.  
 

I think I’m done with this show.

[aghst]

Most of the episode was about something that Taylor at the end says never happened, not even a drunken kiss.

She entertained having a relationship with Austen?

Wow stop the presses!

Are they going to keep going on with this or is this the end of this fake story?

All these scenes could have been shot in Bumfuck or some random drab suburb.  They spend most of their time in some bar.  They gave up on Charleston as lending some unique character to this show other than some exterior shots in between the scripted scenes.

BTW, neither Taylor nor Olivia seem to have significant jobs but they drive very nice cars anyways.  Again I recall an earlier season when everyone on the cast was driving BMWs, like the show cut a good deal with a local dealer for loaners or leases.

Venita just whipped up that garden party.  Yeah like it wasn't totally catered, maybe a couple of thousand to some local caterer since there were a few Veuve Cliquot bottles.

But sure, everyone dresses up for a soiree held outside in the middle of the day.🙄

 

 

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, aghst said:

but they drive very nice cars anyways.

Iv'e always speculated that Bravo or the prod company provided automobiles to the cast as a contract line item, though I don't know for certain. Used to be that Bravo shows were heavy with Range Rovers, no matter the show. White Range Rovers. 

[StevieRocks]

😴 So boring.

JT is impressed with himself and thinks he's cool and entertaining; on the contrary, he is lame, BORING, and banal.

Austen is the most boring and inarticulate person on any Bravo franchise. 

I'm glad these low-rent rubes had fun at their 'sore-ray.' Good Lord. 🤦‍♀️

Nice backhanded compliment from Leva. Maybe you SHOULD wear Lilly Pulitzer, Leva, since your shiny clothes look like they come from Fashion Bug. 

This show is really circling the drain. I used to like it so much. 😥

 

[bichonblitz]

Watching two of the most boring women on the planet sit and talk (Taylor and Olivia) was painful. They have to think about every sentence they are going to say for 5 min before they actually speak. They are the most distant besties I have ever seen. 

[heatherchandler]

5 hours ago, aghst said:

Most of the episode was about something that Taylor at the end says never happened, not even a drunken kiss.

She entertained having a relationship with Austen?

Wow stop the presses!

Are they going to keep going on with this or is this the end of this fake story?

 

 

Sadly, from the previews, it looks like this is all they have.  Austen and Taylor maybe kind-of at one time considered dating. 
 

Nice fake breakdown in your car Olivia. No one is buying this.

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1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Watching two of the most boring women on the planet sit and talk (Taylor and Olivia) was painful. They have to think about every sentence they are going to say for 5 min before they actually speak. They are the most distant besties I have ever seen. 

Ever since Laguna Beach, reality shows are filmed more like scripted shows and movies, with professional hair and makeup and the kind of lighting you'd get in film and TV.

Contrast that to the first reality shows, it was handheld cameras chasing the cast members, wherever they went.

So when they set up scenes, they can do multiple takes, like TV and movies.  They may not work off written scripts but they're probably being prompted to say certain things in each scene.

Because it costs real money to set up cameras and lighting, do blocking so that the cast members are framed exactly the way they want.  So they can't just have the cast wing it and hope they get some scenes which have enough drama to make the final cut.

That is where producers earn their money, making sure to produce "good" scenes which they believe will spark and sustain viewer interest.

Whether they're right or wrong, it's usually boy-girl drama that they rely on to keep viewers tuning in.  So they will try to shoot scenes that heighten this drama and they are going to do as many takes as necessary to get the right convos.  That might mean the cast members have to try different lines and keep doing takes without flubbing the words -- in real life, people misspeak or just use words incorrectly when they're just having a conversation.

But we don't get that on reality shows because they massage the convos and make sure the point they want to convey in particular scenes are executed.

It's not like they shoot and do one take and figure they can go back and re-shoot.  Reshooting means having the crews come out and set up again, the cameras, lights, etc.  Redoing set ups probably is more costly so better to keep doing many takes from the first set up.

 

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20 hours ago, Chicklet said:

Craig and Paige might break up because business is too good

Kinda weird the pillows weren’t wrapped in plastic.  Toss them around a dirty warehouse and then they end up on someone’s sofa.

20 hours ago, Marley said:

Like please who is buying this fake shit.

Isn’t Kroger a grocery store?  Honey I’m going to pick up some Pop Tarts and a $60 Craig palm tree pillow.

19 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

while shooting his ass with insulin

Did he do it through his clothes?  Doesn’t seem super hygienic.  At first I thought it was a vitamin shot as Austen and Taylor had those ridiculous IVs.  Maybe don’t drink too much and aspirin will be enough.

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7 hours ago, aghst said:

Are they going to keep going on with this or is this the end of this fake story?

It’s “to be continued” as if every episode isn’t.

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1 minute ago, MrBuhBye said:

Kinda weird the pillows weren’t wrapped in plastic.  Toss them around a dirty warehouse and then they end up on someone’s sofa.

Isn’t Kroger a grocery store?  Honey I’m going to pick up some Pop Tarts and a $60 Craig palm tree pillow.

Yeah I was going to mention that.  No Krogers out here in the west.  Maybe they have superstores where they also sell household goods including some furnishings?

But I don't get how many times people can buy pillows.  The SC fan base can't be that big and only a small portion of it would bother to buy pillows because it's associated with the show.

So once they sell to the viewers who are inclined to buy those pillows, who else is there to buy?

Then again, I don't have extra pillows on my bed or sofas.  When I go to hotels, these extra pillows are more hinderances, I have to put them off the bed in order to sleep, though I guess they give you a choice of different sized pillows to avoid neck strain.

But it's more for decoration, like the smaller ones don't have a pillow case so they're not meant to be slept on.

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24 minutes ago, aghst said:

They may not work off written scripts but they're probably being prompted to say certain things in each scene.

Sounds like Curb Your Enthusiasm.  They have a scene outline and then the dialogue is improvised.

Is Taylor planning to breed that dog for $ or is she just too lazy to get it spayed?

[SuprSuprElevated]

21 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I thought it was a vitamin shot

It may have been, still...

[SuprSuprElevated]

20 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Is Taylor planning to breed that dog for $ or is she just too lazy to get it spayed?

Ikr? Prob planning a wedding with Little Craig. Sort of a metaphorical, backdoor workaround.

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25 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Sounds like Curb Your Enthusiasm.  They have a scene outline and then the dialogue is improvised.

More like something out of Unreal, a scripted show about a reality show which is a copycat of The Bachelor.

The main characters are producers, an executive producer who pressures her underlings to deliver ratings by delivering drama.

So the producers are young women who are struggling financially and they gaslight the women appearing on the show within the show.  They get in their ear and say things like "you deserve this (to win prize of the season, the bachelor whose affections all these women are vying for)" and manipulate them into being emotional on camera, revealing personal secrets, etc.

But the producers themselves are being emotionally manipulated in order to deliver results.

[JenE4]

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Sadly, from the previews, it looks like this is all they have.  Austen and Taylor maybe kind-of at one time considered dating. 
 

Nice fake breakdown in your car Olivia. No one is buying this.

Okay, I admit for a split second—I think I was buying it. I never thought Olivia and Austen were a couple, but when she started crying in her car after “getting away from the cameras.” I was all maybe she actually had feelings for him?? 

 

Beyond that, my show observations are that JT has WAY too many random charging cords piled up, and he should probably get a Dexcom to track his glucose and cover his carbs while drinking rather than waiting until 12:43 the next afternoon to correct—but that’s between him and mommy.

[aghst]

Were there convincing displays of affection between Austen and Olivia last season?

I can't recall any but I don't remember much of last season.

[howiveaddict]

2 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Kinda weird the pillows weren’t wrapped in plastic.  Toss them around a dirty warehouse and then they end up on someone’s sofa.

Isn’t Kroger a grocery store?  Honey I’m going to pick up some Pop Tarts and a $60 Craig palm tree pillow.

Did he do it through his clothes?  Doesn’t seem super hygienic.  At first I thought it was a vitamin shot as Austen and Taylor had those ridiculous IVs.  Maybe don’t drink too much and aspirin will be enough.

We don't have Kroger, but we have Ruler which is owned by Kroger and is one of those discount groceries where you bag your own groceries and pay a quarter to use a cart. Kind of a cut rate Aldis.  May when the pillows don't sell, they can move them on to Ruler and sell them for a discounted price. I might buy one then.

The needle on a insulin syringe is so short that it would barely stick him through jeans. Also why doesn't he have a Insulin pump to control his glucose levels since they are probably spiking and then dropping from his alcohol usage.  Also should be using a continuous glucose monitor.  

So, Olivia was crying because her fake best friend, was thinking of fake dating Olivia's fake ex boyfriend.  Also. Shady of Austin to tell her about the sleep over.  

What's worse is Austin tries to act upset because Rodd wants to date his fake ex girlfriend.  

Why am I watching?  I do not like anyone.

Also, last week, I noticed that Patricia looks awful unhealthy. Kind of jaundiced.  Hope she does not have something terrible.

28 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Okay, I admit for a split second—I think I was buying it. I never thought Olivia and Austen were a couple, but when she started crying in her car after “getting away from the cameras.” I was all maybe she actually had feelings for him?? 

 

Beyond that, my show observations are that JT has WAY too many random charging cords piled up, and he should probably get a Dexcom to track his glucose and cover his carbs while drinking rather than waiting until 12:43 the next afternoon to correct—but that’s between him and mommy.

So he's from the DC area.  Is his mama also  named Chef Kim, like Dexter's on BDDU?  Must be the breeding area for mama's boys.

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21 minutes ago, aghst said:

Were there convincing displays of affection between Austen and Olivia last season?

I can't recall any but I don't remember much of last season.

I vaguely remember them having lunch at a microbrewery and debating whether it was even a date lol.  But I didn’t get the idea that they even had sex much less dated.

[JenE4]

21 minutes ago, aghst said:

Were there convincing displays of affection between Austen and Olivia last season?

I can't recall any but I don't remember much of last season.

No. I think there was literally only 1 scene of them alone together and having a “relationship talk” deciding to make it official…and they were sitting on a bench 3 feet apart and not even looking at each other while talking.

I was kind of hoping Olivia would have a “real” relationship with Rod. But now that we know he’s friends with Austen, we know that’s fake, too.

[SuprSuprElevated]

I too thought the crying jag in the car looked pretty real, but I never thought either of them (O & A) were emotionally invested in each other.

[snarts]

Fully believe that Olivia & Austen were a fake couple last season, set up for the show. Then, things got physical, she started to develop feelings for him, he dipped out, and then tried to dip back in and she pushed him away. They said as much at the reunion. So, I do think she was genuinely upset in the car, a bit about Austen but more about Taylor. 

I've learned that everything Craig about Paige on the show is for dramatic purpose (same with her on Summer House). He was never going to spend the entire Summer in NYC, it was just a way to highlight the growth the company has experienced. I do live in Krogerland and they are (unfortunately) top dog in a number of states. Both Kroger (and Ralph's as they're branded in CA) have an extremely large footprint with a middle aisle dedicated to homegoods & holiday decor. A contract with them is kinda a big deal.

Venita's backyard area is really cute and I liked the set-up for the party. I just find her so incredibly dull. Plus, whenever she's around, I know Leva will be there and ugh. 

Madison's trying to be suzy homemaker but she laughed a little too hard and tried to make the Austen conversation all about her. I think she already misses the game, Brett's not going keep her name in tabloids.

Edited September 30, 2023 by snarts

[Starlight925]

What's missing for this show is....Charleston.

Charleston was a character on the show.  

In the first few seasons, I fell in love with Charleston, just from seeing it on my screen.  I planned a trip there, even mapping out all the places they went.  Then lockdowns hit, so I didn't go.  I finally went last year, as I suggested it for a friend's birthday trip, and it was such a beautiful, charming city.  

But the show has dropped the city as a character.

Now it's just a bunch of boring girls and overgrown little boys in big boy pants.

JT with that insulin and finger test made me want to scream.  At first, I thought, ok, maybe he was recently diagnosed, but it appears he's been Type 1 for a very long time.  No continuous BG monitor?  No continuous insulin?  We have an adult Type 1 in our family, and it's a very different story.  Injection through pants?  "Mommy" needs to help him.

[SuprSuprElevated]

17 minutes ago, snarts said:

Brett's not going keep her name in tabloids.

Remains to be seen if his um, firehose, is sufficient to quench her thirst.

Edited September 30, 2023 by SuprSuprElevated

[Natalie68]

10 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

What's missing for this show is....Charleston.

Charleston was a character on the show.  

In the first few seasons, I fell in love with Charleston, just from seeing it on my screen.  I planned a trip there, even mapping out all the places they went.  Then lockdowns hit, so I didn't go.  I finally went last year, as I suggested it for a friend's birthday trip, and it was such a beautiful, charming city.  

But the show has dropped the city as a character.

Now it's just a bunch of boring girls and overgrown little boys in big boy pants.

JT with that insulin and finger test made me want to scream.  At first, I thought, ok, maybe he was recently diagnosed, but it appears he's been Type 1 for a very long time.  No continuous BG monitor?  No continuous insulin?  We have an adult Type 1 in our family, and it's a very different story.  Injection through pants?  "Mommy" needs to help him.

I was grossed out by how careless and unhygienic that whole set up was.  None of these folks are interesting but it's real nice they let dad (Shep) hang out with them.

[albarino]

I finally watched this episode...I kept forgetting it was on and walking away to do something (anything) else.  I did miss how Olivia ended up at Shep's place drinking wine and discussing Austin and Taylor.  Then in the coffee shop she had to address Taylor directly.  Olivia and Austin were never an item, were they?  I mean, I know we were supposed to think they were but does Taylor owe Olivia an explanation?  The little sob scene at the end was a nice touch though.

Like many of you, I used to really like this show and even made a trip to Charleston to see the town because of Southern Charm.  Now?  I'm wondering if it is time to wrap it up.  There is nothing aspirational about watching middle aged men in backwards baseball caps day drinking.....

Edited October 1, 2023 by albarino
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4 hours ago, albarino said:

I did miss how Olivia ended up at Shep's place drinking wine and discussing Austin and Taylor.  

I think it was her parents’ place and he had gone pheasant hunting and dropped off some carcasses for her and then she needed him to change a light bulb.

4 hours ago, albarino said:

backwards baseball caps day drinking.

And they weren’t even fitted ones they were those cheap adjustable ones.

[RedHawk]

On 9/30/2023 at 9:20 AM, Starlight925 said:

What's missing for this show is....Charleston.

Charleston was a character on the show.  

In the first few seasons, I fell in love with Charleston, just from seeing it on my screen.  I planned a trip there, even mapping out all the places they went.  Then lockdowns hit, so I didn't go.  I finally went last year, as I suggested it for a friend's birthday trip, and it was such a beautiful, charming city.  

But the show has dropped the city as a character.

Now it's just a bunch of boring girls and overgrown little boys in big boy pants.

One of my best friends moved to Charleston in 1991 and I've visited her there once or twice a year ever since. Wonderful city! When this show was going to debut I teased her and her friends about it. A couple of them knew Shep and Thomas, and I'm pretty sure I met Thomas years ago at a party on a rooftop bar. They all claimed they would not watch but I know some of them did! 

I watched it just to catch glimpses of the city, Isle of Palms, and other areas and got hooked. Sadly it's gone so downhill and indeed you see so little of the city anymore, just bars they go to or occasionally a restaurant or someone's fine home like Madison's friend who hosted the wedding after-party.

When Cameran got her real estate license at least we got to tour some of the beautiful houses she was selling and learn the history of them. Even seeing Patricia's and Thomas's houses was interesting.

Most of the flavor and  "charm" of the show is long gone. They can't milk this cow much longer.

Edited October 2, 2023 by RedHawk

[Nancybeth]

I was surprised that JT manages his Type 1 diabetes in such an old-school way. I was diagnosed last fall and was on a continuous blood glucose monitor almost immediately, and use insulin pens versus syringes and vials of insulin. Most of the people I know who have been T1 since they were kids (like JT) are on insulin pumps. It just stuck out to me. 

(Google tells me it may have to do with cost and/or insurance.)

Edited October 3, 2023 by Nancybeth

[RalyWilmy]

On 9/29/2023 at 4:20 PM, StevieRocks said:

Nice backhanded compliment from Leva. Maybe you SHOULD wear Lilly Pulitzer, Leva, since your shiny clothes look like they come from Fashion Bug. 

This made me laugh out loud.  I haven't thought about Fashion Bug in 30 years! 🤣  I'm almost positive that I rocked some Fashion Bug in my day, lol.

[ZettaK]

On 9/29/2023 at 7:08 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Is Taylor planning to breed that dog for $ or is she just too lazy to get it spayed?

I was going to say the same. How old is the dog? She is young, but she should be spayed within a specific time period.

[Jobiska]

The most notable part for me was that JT's dog-at-home-with-"Mommy" was named Peppercorn, as I have a cat named Peppercorn.  Peppercanine was pretty cute.

Also noticed the injection-thru-pants.  !!!   And here I feel a little guilty if I inject meds into my freshly showered self without doing the alcohol wipe!  

How, er, gallant of Craig to quasi-accept Taylor's phone apology.  

Yeah, that warehouse.  Is it even climate-controlled?  Pillows with southern-summer-humidity-mildew in them, yay!  

[ZettaK]

On 10/3/2023 at 12:47 PM, Nancybeth said:

I was surprised that JT manages his Type 1 diabetes in such an old-school way. I was diagnosed last fall and was on a continuous blood glucose monitor almost immediately, and use insulin pens versus syringes and vials of insulin. Most of the people I know who have been T1 since they were kids (like JT) are on insulin pumps. It just stuck out to me. 

(Google tells me it may have to do with cost and/or insurance.)

JT shouldn't be drinking because he has Type A diabetes. And the injection through his jeans was show offy. Also, being a mama's boy at 40 something is not attractive.

Taylor and Olivia are still boring. And Taylor’s sweater at the cafe was ugly.

Who is buying Craig's pillows? They don't look nice. 

[Nancybeth]

19 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

JT shouldn't be drinking because he has Type A diabetes. And the injection through his jeans was show offy. Also, being a mama's boy at 40 something is not attractive.

Taylor and Olivia are still boring. And Taylor’s sweater at the cafe was ugly.

Who is buying Craig's pillows? They don't look nice. 

You can drink with Type 1 diabetes. You have to be a little more careful, because alcohol affects your blood sugar (and obviously, there are health effects associated with too much alcohol that everyone faces). But I've never been told that I "can't" or "shouldn't" drink as a Type 1. 

[lili45]

10 hours ago, Nancybeth said:

You can drink with Type 1 diabetes. You have to be a little more careful, because alcohol affects your blood sugar (and obviously, there are health effects associated with too much alcohol that everyone faces). But I've never been told that I "can't" or "shouldn't" drink as a Type 1. 

Perhaps it’s the sheer quantity of alcohol that he consumed that’s ill advised with Type 1? Seems like it was a tremendous amount. These blokes are consuming a ton of alcohol.

[ZettaK]

2 hours ago, lili45 said:

Perhaps it’s the sheer quantity of alcohol that he consumed that’s ill advised with Type 1? Seems like it was a tremendous amount. These blokes are consuming a ton of alcohol.

Exactly. It was not only one drink. The guys were on a bar crawl. And he was drinking again a lot during yesterday's episode. 

[JenE4]

My teen just got diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes this winter. The whole “You can’t eat that! You have diabetes!” Is kind of a touchy subject because the patients (and parents) hear that a lot from people who only have experience with Type 2 diabetes, which is completely different from Type 1. They can have food with sugar/carbs—they just have to cover it with insulin. That being said, it was incredibly dangerous if JT was binge drinking and not even checking his glucose levels and covering the carbs. However, everyone has different ratios of coverage, so for his needs, it might have been fine—especially if he were drinking something like White Claw as opposed to beer. That being said, no one should be drinking that much without a detriment to their health, but these are middle-aged men—they’ve made it this far in life. 

Edited October 6, 2023 by JenE4

[Lassus]

Yeah, T1 since '83.  I started out as a super-manic teen but eventually they let me know it just needed to be covered.  I was told alcohol was not great for diabetes, but I already had alcoholics in the family, so I had no desire to drink anyhow and therefore it never affected me.  Lastly, TJ "professional courtesy" is obviously an unbelievable dipshit, so nothing he does would surprise me diabetes-wise.  But I guess these shows would all fail if they had interesting, intelligent, decent men on them.

ANYHOW, this "OMG they talked" storyline is the weakest fucking thing I have ever, ever seen.

[zenme]

14 hours ago, ZettaK said:

JT shouldn't be drinking because he has Type A diabetes. And the injection through his jeans was show offy. Also, being a mama's boy at 40 something is not attractive.

Taylor and Olivia are still boring. And Taylor’s sweater at the cafe was ugly.

Who is buying Craig's pillows? They don't look nice. 

You know, the mama’s boy stuff is enough on it's own, but calling her “Mommy” takes it to another level.

[Lassus]

I know Craig's no prize, and this is an old thing, but I'm a little surprised Craig hasn't fucking punched Shep in the face for having a dog around solely to mock him.  

[ZettaK]

3 hours ago, JenE4 said:

My teen just got diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes this winter. The whole “You can’t eat that! You have diabetes!” Is kind of a touchy subject because the patients (and parents) hear that a lot from people who only have experience with Type 2 diabetes, which is completely different from Type 1. They can have food with sugar/carbs—they just have to cover it with insulin. That being said, it was incredibly dangerous if JT was binge drinking and not even checking his glucose levels and covering the carbs. However, everyone has different ratios of coverage, so for his needs, it might have been fine—especially if he were drinking something like White Claw as opposed to beer. That being said, no one should be drinking that much without a detriment to their health, but these are middle-aged men—they’ve made it this far in life. 

Yes, of course. Beer has less alcohol percentage wise than wine, and hard liquor has so much more than wine. But JT (who is trying so much to become a regular on the show) was drinking whiskey, or bourbon at his house on yesterday's episode, and then he had Taylor’s drink and shots at Taylor’s event. I rewatched some scenes. 

He also managed to promote his business twice already.

Edited October 6, 2023 by ZettaK