The Golden Bachelor - General Discussion

[Kiss my mutt]

23 minutes ago, sadie said:

They should have Leslie on DWTS. People would watch just to spite Gerry, I even might tune in.

Not to mention she can actually dance!

[debbie311]

I think ABC would be crazy to continue to promote Gerry, as in putting him on Dancing With the Stars.  He's a poor example of the Bachelor franchise.  Plenty of couples have broken up, but not as spectacularly did they crash and burn like Gerry and Theresa.  Big, fancy, televised wedding three months 
(?) after meeting, then DIVORCE three months later.  If they wanted an example of why this DOESN'T work, they have it. I wouldn't promote ANY of the players on that season, I would start fresh with a new group if they ever do another "Golden" season again.

[Sweet-tea]

Gerry Turner's daughter calls out fan 'rage and cruelty' after “Golden Bachelor ”divorce (msn.com)

[Armchair Critic]

18 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Gerry Turner's daughter calls out fan 'rage and cruelty' after “Golden Bachelor ”divorce (msn.com)

It is understandable you don't want to see your father criticized. But I don't trust his daughters. They cover for him, I don't know if they are in denial or if it's because they just are willing to lie for him. 

[JudyObscure]

On 4/26/2024 at 4:21 PM, Sweet-tea said:

Gerry Turner's daughter calls out fan 'rage and cruelty' after “Golden Bachelor ”divorce (msn.com)

The woman he lived with for a while, right after his first wife died, reported an incident where he told her he wasn't going to take her to some event because she had gained a few pounds.   His daughters are more than a few pounds overweight so I expected them to read that and distance themselves from a father who would likely be ashamed to be seen with them.

 

[seacliffsal]

On 4/27/2024 at 10:53 AM, Armchair Critic said:

It is understandable you don't want to see your father criticized. But I don't trust his daughters. They cover for him, I don't know if they are in denial or if it's because they just are willing to lie for him. 

Wanting the 'perks' of 'fame' but not understanding that scrutiny comes along with it.

[tinkerbell]

2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Wanting the 'perks' of 'fame' but not understanding that scrutiny comes along with it.

Yes, they "dated"  on a tv show, got engaged on a tv show, had a televised wedding.  Then within months of when the whole thing started, went on a tv show to announce their divorce.  

So people are going to scrutinize, criticize, and express opinions about what kind of man he is.  

I always thought "smarmy"  was the best way to describe Gerry.  Smarmy is defined as " revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness." Seems to describe him perfectly

[LennieBriscoe]

I just read two gossip items: 

---Gerry already has a "decades younger" girlfriend; and

---Theresa might be suing him over money. 

[HerkyJerky]

12 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

---Theresa might be suing him over money. 

Hopefully, she got that pre-nup...

[DEL901]

2 hours ago, HerkyJerky said:

Hopefully, she got that pre-nup...

Apparently she got a good one. 

[Hip-to-be-Square]

   I think that there will be a Lifetime movie about Gerry someday- I can just feel it 😄!  I want none other than Eric Roberts to play him since he is the king 👑 of playing sleazy, psychotic Lifetime Movie leading men!  I recommend Stalked by My Doctor: a 2015 Lifetime movie starring Eric Roberts- if you like that, there are 4 more of them! 😅🙌💯

   Think about it- they could make a Lifetime Movie about Gerry right now!! 📺🍿👀  Gerry's wife died under mysterious circumstances. Gerry lied about his entire life/career.  Gerry worked as a maintenance man at a psych ward and was emotionally abusive to his much younger lover.  Gerry was The Golden Bachelor, married Theresa, and divorced Theresa within 3 months.  We even have the critical Lifetime scene of a lover falling down the stairs during a fight with Gerry and requiring surgery!!💯 Get on it, Lifetime- and if Eric Roberts can't do it, put Jane Lynch in a cheap toupee, spray tan and a suit! 😅

Edited April 29 by Hip-to-be-Square

[Armchair Critic]

1 hour ago, Hip-to-be-Square said:

I think that there will be a Lifetime movie about Gerry someday

I would so watch that. 😆 You have me laughing.

But seriously, he is psychotic to have lied like that. He repeated the lies over and over in different interviews and looked right in the camera and wiped tears from his eyes.

I am very close with my family but my family would not lie for me. I still say (I know I am a broken record) that his daughters enable him by covering for him.

I hope this isn't true and I am only speculating, but I wonder if Gerry waited too long to bring his wife into the hospital and by that time it was too late for her. I've heard from multiple sources (including somebody who lived by him) he cheated on his wife so I don't trust much of what he says.

 Funny that I stopped watching the regular Bachelor after many years but decided to watch The Golden Bachelor because I thought older people would be more genuine. But we still ended up with influencer wannabees and a cad for the Bachelor. 

Anyway, it's fun talking about it here so I hope you will keep coming back and updating us.

Take it with a grain of salt but I can believe this article https://radaronline.com/p/gerry-turner-golden-bachelor-scheme-fame-fortune-divorce-theresa-nist/

 

 

 

[Mabinogia]

2 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

Funny that I stopped watching the regular Bachelor after many years but decided to watch The Golden Bachelor because I thought older people would be more genuine. But we still ended up with influencer wannabees and a cad for the Bachelor. 

I was excited about Golden Bachelor for a minute because I too thought older people might be more genuine, but then I remembered that it would be older people who agreed to humiliate themselves on a trash TV show so my expectations dropped dramatically. 

I think all age groups have people genuinely looking for love, who wouldn't lie and cheat their way into someone's heart it's just that those people wouldn't be caught dead on this over produced tv show. 

The second I saw Gerry I was dubious about his sincerity. He just screamed smarm to me just from looking at him, but then I know we're not supposed to judge books by their covers, but sometimes the book has chosen it's cover to represent it and in this case, Gerry wasn't any deeper than his cover/image hinted at.

[dleighg]

6 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

but then I remembered that it would be older people who agreed to humiliate themselves on a trash TV show

Yeah, my husband and I are in the "golden bachelor" demographic and we have reached the point where we just roll our eyes at the stupid stuff people are willing to do.

[deSchenke]

I had hopes for the Golden Bachelor, for many of the reasons given above. I even got my husband to watch with me. I was glad it had a happy ending with the engagement. My husband did not watch the ATFR (or the wedding), but I did and told him about the wedding. Something inside me told me it was happening too fast. I watched the wedding, but it was so... scripted. ??? It just felt odd. 

(Sidenote: I did not tell my husband about the former girlfriend stories. I guess I wanted him to enjoy it for what was presented on the show.)

I was not surprised in the least that they announced their divorce. I'm glad there was a prenup. I wish Theresa the best.

Yes, I told my husband about the divorce announcement. Is it weird I wanted him to believe in the "fantasy" for as long as possible?

Yes, weird. I enjoyed watching it together with him. I really liked the cast for the most part. We laughed a lot through it.

[Mabinogia]

31 minutes ago, deSchenke said:

Yes, I told my husband about the divorce announcement. Is it weird I wanted him to believe in the "fantasy" for as long as possible?

I think it's sweet. I kind of wish the show had been on before social media so we could all have believed in the fantasy a bit longer. The idea of two older people who have been in solid relationships in the past finding each other after losing their spouses sounds like a lovely show, and in the hands of someone other than the Bachelor team it might have been handled better, but Bachelor Producers gonna over produce, it's right their in their job title so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised, and of course they picked the shiny tv ready Gerry rather than some average guy with a heart of gold who was truly looking for just ONE woman to spend his sunset years with. (of course that guy would likely be too smart to go on this show and allow his life to be picked apart by us vultures lol)

Edited April 30 by Mabinogia

[TVMovieBuff]

Gerry probably picked Theresa for a reason only he knows. She has a high-power job, so she's no dummy, but he must have sensed she was emotionally vulnerable. Leslie was more self-assured, Susan more brash and extroverted, Kathy more sharp. 

I hope Theresa isn't too hurt, and has seen Gerry for what he is. 

[Hip-to-be-Square]

18 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

I would so watch that. 😆 You have me laughing.

But seriously, he is psychotic to have lied like that. He repeated the lies over and over in different interviews and looked right in the camera and wiped tears from his eyes.

I am very close with my family but my family would not lie for me. I still say (I know I am a broken record) that his daughters enable him by covering for him.

I hope this isn't true and I am only speculating, but I wonder if Gerry waited too long to bring his wife into the hospital and by that time it was too late for her. I've heard from multiple sources (including somebody who lived by him) he cheated on his wife so I don't trust much of what he says.

 Funny that I stopped watching the regular Bachelor after many years but decided to watch The Golden Bachelor because I thought older people would be more genuine. But we still ended up with influencer wannabees and a cad for the Bachelor. 

Anyway, it's fun talking about it here so I hope you will keep coming back and updating us.

Take it with a grain of salt but I can believe this article https://radaronline.com/p/gerry-turner-golden-bachelor-scheme-fame-fortune-divorce-theresa-nist/

 

 

 

    I'd watch it too 😄! We'll see a Dateline or 48 Hours special on him someday if he keeps this act up.  He really is psychotic in the way that he cries on cue and lies to people with such intense eye contact.  Those homely daughters were complicit in his lies the whole time, and they were giving Leslie the evil eye during the After the Final Rose episode because she called out Gerry on his lies during the breakup.  Go Leslie! "I can think whatever the fuck I want, Gerry!" 🙌💯😄

    You're so right about Gerry intentionally waiting until it was too late to take Toni to the hospital.  Gerry was cheating on her throughout the marriage, and her passing was his plan to get out of it.  He's such a sleazy, morally bankrupt guy to leverage her passing into becoming The Golden Bachelor. I believe that the framed photo of Toni that he sobbed over was just a prop and that he doesn't display her photos in his home.  

    Thanks for the article!  I'm glad that Theresa got an iron clad prenup.  I think he lived in a separate home from Theresa so that he could fuck around with younger women during their long-distance marriage. Onward and upward, Theresa! Gerry is a man whore and a swindler! 

[DEL901]

48 minutes ago, TVMovieBuff said:

Gerry probably picked Theresa for a reason only he knows. She has a high-power job, so she's no dummy, but he must have sensed she was emotionally vulnerable. Leslie was more self-assured, Susan more brash and extroverted, Kathy more sharp. 

I hope Theresa isn't too hurt, and has seen Gerry for what he is. 

Gerry seemed to lock in on Theresa when he realized she was probably the wealthiest of the finalists.  Too bad for him she was sharp enough to get a prenup.  

[kristen111]

On 4/22/2024 at 11:25 AM, DEL901 said:

I would have agreed before, but now with the divorce, the lustre is off the Golden Bachelor and ABC may want to move away from him.  

They should.  Why would women still want to bother with this phony, cheater, disgusting man?  Are they that desperate for a man?  He turns my stomach.  I wonder if Teresa is feeling horrible or what?  Did she really care for him, or was she in on this fiasco ?

[Elizzikra]

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Did she really care for him, or was she in on this fiasco ?

I come and go on this. I didn't really like her much during the season and I could never figure out why, beyond her sort of constant carping bout the very special connection she had right off the bat with Gerry. I do believe she was genuine, though, in wanting to find love again, or at least in wanting to find a partner whose company she could enjoy and whom she could love (even if she felt like he wasn't the great love of her life like her first husband). I don't think that she was immune to the fame and the perks of being a reality star, but I think she really thought that she was going to have a long-term romantic relationship with Gerry and I think she is probably disappointed that it didn't work out. Maybe not heartbroken, but disappointed I think.

Maybe she was more caught up in the whirlwind than actually in on the sham?

[Stats Queen]

3 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Maybe she was more caught up in the whirlwind than actually in on the sham?

That’s what I am thinking. 
 

This environment creates a “bubble world” 

[TVMovieBuff]

48 Hours and Dateline are for murderers. So for Gerry, I am thinking an E! News special! It's fun & juicy without the tragedy. 

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, TVMovieBuff said:

48 Hours and Dateline are for murderers. So for Gerry, I am thinking an E! News special! It's fun & juicy without the tragedy. 

Sometimes they do fraud without the murder. I think both of them did a story on Anna Delvey. 

[LennieBriscoe]

3 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Sometimes they do fraud without the murder. I think both of them did a story on Anna Delvey. 

Maybe Treesa could be persuaded to fix that....  🗡

[Mabinogia]

17 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

This environment creates a “bubble world” 

I imagine it is very hard not to get caught up in the bubble of romance the show creates. I actually think that the majority of those who make it to the end do believe they are in love with each other, but what they fell for was the fantasy surrounding the show. I mean, it's got to be really hard to not fall in love with a hot person of your sexual preference who takes you to private concerts, on helicopter rides, buys you expensive gifts, and does everything they can to woo you while looking camera ready at all times. But then, when the ring is on and the cameras are off reality sets in and they come to the painful realization that they know nothing useful about each other. 

I did mistakenly expect these older contestants to have the life experience to know better, but the fact that it seems Gerry and Theresa got engaged without actually ironing out what state they would live in shows they, as dozens of youngin's before them, got swept up in the fantasy and forgot that the marriage was going to take place in reality. (more Theresa than Gerry on this one, I think he was just living it up macking on as many women as possible and making promises he may have had no intention of keeping. He seems like a player to me.)

[Elizzikra]

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I imagine it is very hard not to get caught up in the bubble of romance the show creates. I actually think that the majority of those who make it to the end do believe they are in love with each other, but what they fell for was the fantasy surrounding the show. I mean, it's got to be really hard to not fall in love with a hot person of your sexual preference who takes you to private concerts, on helicopter rides, buys you expensive gifts, and does everything they can to woo you while looking camera ready at all times. But then, when the ring is on and the cameras are off reality sets in and they come to the painful realization that they know nothing useful about each other. 

Add to that the fact that you are at least physically removed from the daily challenges of work, home and family life; distracted from financial problems; and the alcohol flows. You aren't living real life when you are getting to know the person so it's not surprising that the re-entry to real life would be challenging at best.

[TVMovieBuff]

Nearly 20 years ago, I saw an interview with Melissa Rycroft saying there is indeed a bubble on The Bachelor during filming. No outside news, no phones, like a low-grade sensory deprivation. You get caught up in competing for this guy's attention. There is nothing else to do. 

When Melissa got out of it all, and it wore off, she said Jason Mesnick wasn't even someone she would have been attracted to. They were incompatible and if it had been normal real world she would have known it early on. 

[Armchair Critic]

Joan is the new Golden Bachelorette 🤷‍♀️

[atomic]

Big meh for me. Never found Joan to be particularly compelling on Gerry's season and the frozen face look is just off-putting to me.

Ellen was my top choice, but also would've been happy with Leslie. Not sure if I'll care enough to tune in now.

[libgirl2]

37 minutes ago, atomic said:

Big meh for me. Never found Joan to be particularly compelling on Gerry's season and the frozen face look is just off-putting to me.

Ellen was my top choice, but also would've been happy with Leslie. Not sure if I'll care enough to tune in now.

Meh for me too. 

[Armchair Critic]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Big meh for me. Never found Joan to be particularly compelling on Gerry's season and the frozen face look is just off-putting to me.

Meh is my reaction also. I had hoped for somebody with more personality. I think she got it because they figure her looks would be enough to draw in 25 men. I don't dislike her I just don't find her that interesting and don't see her as being much different than the regular Bachelorette. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

The show is now going to be 90 minutes (instead of 1 hour) at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays.

* edited to say - I bet Susan and Kathy will do an appearance on the show, they seem up for anything.

Edited Tuesday at 11:34 PM by Armchair Critic

[libgirl2]

Will she be able to move her face? Sorry, I like Ellen. She is an attractive woman her age, not one trying to look 30 years younger. 

[DEL901]

And she is a 61 year old blonde.  Checks the boxes for them.   

[kristen111]

I’m here to see what’s new with Gerry and Teresa.  I know he’s a crook and bullshit artist, but how is a Teresa doing?  Is she broken up over the split or what?  I hope she didn’t use any of her money.  Plus, I never want to see his face on tv ever again.  Him and his daughters.  What a let down.

1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said:

Meh is my reaction also. I had hoped for somebody with more personality. I think she got it because they figure her looks would be enough to draw in 25 men. I don't dislike her I just don't find her that interesting and don't see her as being much different than the regular Bachelorette. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

The show is now going to be 90 minutes (instead of 1 hour) at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays.

* edited to say - I bet Susan and Kathy will do an appearance on the show, they seem up for anything.

Do you know when it’s coming back?

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

I’m here to see what’s new with Gerry and Teresa.  I know he’s a crook and bullshit artist, but how is a Teresa doing?  Is she broken up over the split or what?  I hope she didn’t use any of her money.  Plus, I never want to see his face on tv ever again.  Him and his daughters.  What a let down.

Do you know when it’s coming back?

There's an article in the media thread. It doesn't name Joan, but it does have a premiere date (9/1 I think).

Edited Wednesday at 12:44 AM by Salacious Kitty

[kristen111]

2 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

Joan is the new Golden Bachelorette 🤷‍♀️

Whaaat?  To me, she is so blah.  Who’s the Bachelor?

I don’t care much for Susan and Kathy.  They are too hungry for attention.

[kristen111]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

There's an article in the media thread. It doesn't name Joan, but it does have a premiere date (9/1 I think).

Thank you.

[Recyclorette]

No BIP and Joan as Golden Bachelorette. Disappointment all around. There's no doubt in my mind that this Golden season will end in a nothing burger, too. What mature man will want to put up with the high maintenance Joan requires. There have been two group photos recently with several of the Golden ladies where they all have big smiles. But not Joan, she can't smile; she looked as though she was grimacing. And they had to use a filter to shoot her promo.

So much for the optimism that, with new PTB and a successful Joey season, things were on a healthier track going forward. 

[Armchair Critic]

1 hour ago, kristen111 said:

Do you know when it’s coming back?

September 1.

I found out about it because PEOPLE sent me a "Breaking News" 😆email about it:

PEOPLE magazine story about The Golden Bachelorette

[Armchair Critic]

I figured Joan wanted this because she was making videos. My friend who is a designer has to keep an Instagram account and make TikTok videos, it's a job requirement to be on social media and have followers. So her agent or whatever probably told Joan to be more active on social media.

I think Kathy or Susan would have loved being Bachelorette too. But most men who go on shows like this want a "hot babe" type, although I prefer watching somebody with a funny personality.

Are they going to have a separate forum for it here?

[Salacious Kitty]

15 minutes ago, Armchair Critic said:

I figured Joan wanted this because she was making videos. My friend who is a designer has to keep an Instagram account and make TikTok videos, it's a job requirement to be on social media and have followers. So her agent or whatever probably told Joan to be more active on social media.

I think Kathy or Susan would have loved being Bachelorette too. But most men who go on shows like this want a "hot babe" type, although I prefer watching somebody with a funny personality.

Are they going to have a separate forum for it here?

Either start a new topic here or request a new forum altogether. 

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said:

I figured Joan wanted this because she was making videos. My friend who is a designer has to keep an Instagram account and make TikTok videos, it's a job requirement to be on social media and have followers. So her agent or whatever probably told Joan to be more active on social media.

I think Kathy or Susan would have loved being Bachelorette too. But most men who go on shows like this want a "hot babe" type, although I prefer watching somebody with a funny personality.

Are they going to have a separate forum for it here?

Wow. I just looked at Joan's TikTok and talk about CRINGE. She really was angling hard for the Golden Bachelorette role. Sad thing is, just like how she came off on the show, you don't get any real personality from her social media content either. Just a bunch of stiff, forced videos where she's trying really hard to seem cool.

[atomic]

 

[Hip-to-be-Square]

Damn it! WHY?! 😮 We don't even know Joan and she left Gerry to be with her daughter who had a baby- she had her chance to be on TV already and didn't seem too sad to leave.    I wanted Leslie to be the Golden Bachelorette! 😭💔 Leslie is athletic, bold, naturally beautiful, great beachy wavy hair and she's the 1986 Crystal Light National Aerobics Champion- what's not to love?!  I'll still watch the season, but I really wanted Leslie to get this. 

Edited Wednesday at 01:14 PM by Hip-to-be-Square

[TVMovieBuff]

Oh geez I didn't want a Golden Bachelorette but the Bachelor was such a hit, it was going to happen. 

I am 68. From observing people in my life,, I don't think there are many men 70-ish who are telegenic enough, and also decent enough, to find 25 of them for Joan. 

I like Kathy & Susan. They are funny and interesting. I think Gerry purposely chose someone who was more sensitive. He wanted to ego boost of breaking someone's heart. Kathy & Susan are more easy-going and have their own lives. Theresa does too, but Gerry found her easier to manipulate. 

 

[seacliffsal]

I think the producers waited too long to get a Golden Bachelorette season together and the shine is coming off of the gold.  Too much news about Gerry and his false stories and then the divorce only 3 months after the wedding.  I think Joan is a disappointing choice (and won't have the traditional backstory of being broken hearted by the bachelor as she left before the season even really developed very much).  I anticipate that the ratings really won't be what the producers want/expect.  It probably should have been a 'one and done' or the producers should have rushed the Golden Bachelorette into production to take advantage of the good buzz and ratings before it all turned to rust.

[libgirl2]

I'm going to be 60 next year and she is what 61? That isn't "golden" and I don't consider myself "golden". Why not a woman in her early 70s? Or at least late 60s? 

I consider golden being retired and on Medicare! 

Edited Wednesday at 02:26 PM by libgirl2

[deSchenke]

Hopefully, the fillers in Joan's face will have relaxed a bit and she will be able to show emotion. We know very little about her so it's not like she won't live up to expectations - because there are none!

I'm more curious about the men! In the regular series, the men seemed to bond with one another more than the B-ette. I wonder if that will be the case here as well. I think that alone would be worth watching. I enjoyed the Golden Bachelor, not because I was hoping for a happy ending for Gerry, but  because the women got along so well.

[Recyclorette]

1 hour ago, libgirl2 said:

I'm going to be 60 next year and she is what 61? That isn't "golden" and I don't consider myself "golden". Why not a woman in her early 70s? Or at least late 60s? 

I consider golden being retired and on Medicare! 

Clearly, the intention here was just to boost the Bachelor franchise ratings. From pushing Theresa and Gerry into a shotgun wedding to picking an absurd representation of an older woman, this is just the same formula for shallow drama and failure that this show has deteriorated into.

Just when American women need most to be seen as serious, vital human beings with purpose and power and not just pretty faces to toss or reconstruct as we age, we get this. No thanks. I'm not buying.