willco May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Now I'm kind of hoping Carson wins. He seems like a smart kid but he's still insecure. 3 Link to comment
truthaboutluv May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I think the making fire at 4 was introduced after Ozzy lost that season where it looked like he was clearly on path to win but lost the Final 4 challenge. It's the season Sophie won. As I remember, the entire jury confirmed that they were all ready to vote for Ozzy if he'd made it to the F3. 1 Link to comment
mojoween May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I feel like still having the idiotic fire-making F4 challenge after Rick went home means it’s here to stay forfuckingever. Carson, please suddenly become every little kid Smokey Bear wanted us about. 1 Link to comment
truthaboutluv May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Carson is still attacking the flint, exactly as Yam Yam told him not to do. 1 1 Link to comment
Straycat80 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 (edited) Poor Carson, not going well. Edited May 25, 2023 by Straycat80 Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I miss the seasons when people were so terrible at fire that Probst was ready to flip a coin just to end it. It was one benefit of recruits, they weren't home practicing fire or making replicas of challenges in their backyard. 2 1 Link to comment
Lamb18 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I think Carson is in the good spot, but it may not matter this year. Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Frannie reacts like I do. Poor Carson. The post-show is gonna be rough for him. He needs a Reunion and a meet-and-greet with Cochrane. Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Well, Heidi seems to have some fans in the jury. Maybe this will boost her to the win. 1 Link to comment
mojoween May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 (edited) Jeff has given tips in every challenge today, what’s that all about? Let these boneheads figure shit out on their own, Peach. Well fuck. I mentioned it weeks ago, but the editors buried Heidi for over a month. Her win would be deeply unsatisfying if it happens. Edited May 25, 2023 by mojoween 3 Link to comment
Straycat80 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I’m going to predict Heidi wins all. And not because of fire, she was liked by everyone on the jury I think. 2 Link to comment
EllenB May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Heidi got her jury points with that super fast fire. Link to comment
iMonrey May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Heidi seems to have the votes judging by the jury reaction. I don't think Carolyn or Yam2 has a chance. 1 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, mojoween said: Well fuck. I mentioned it weeks ago, but the editors buried Heidi for over a month. Her win would be deeply unsatisfying if it happens. Maybe they figured it would have to be done after Gabler got the same treatment. Link to comment
KaveDweller May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said: I think the making fire at 4 was introduced after Ozzy lost that season where it looked like he was clearly on path to win but lost the Final 4 challenge. It's the season Sophie won. As I remember, the entire jury confirmed that they were all ready to vote for Ozzy if he'd made it to the F3. No, it was much later than Sophie's season. 38 or 39, I think. Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, iMonrey said: I think Heidi just won. I'm kind of not sure if Yam Yam or Carolyn will win. Many may consider Carson the mastermind of Tika, Yam Yam may have rubbed people the wrong way with the personal way he played the game, and some of the jurors said while they were still in the game they didn't get Carolyn. I think Heidi might have this in a landslide, with Carson giving Carolyn or Yam his vote. I'm sure Carson will be back one day. 1 Link to comment
willco May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, mojoween said: Jeff has govern tips in every challenge today, what’s that all about? Let these boneheads figure shit out on their own, Peach. Well fuck. I mentioned it weeks ago, but the editors buried Heidi for over a month. Her win would be deeply unsatisfying if it happens. Like Gabler was for me. Yes, it was surprising, I'lll give them that. 1 Link to comment
MerBearHou May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Proud of you, Carson. Great season, young man. 3 2 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 “You all are nuts!” That was funny. Thanks, Jeff! 2 Link to comment
mojoween May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, willco said: Like Gabler was for me. Yes, it was surprising, I'lll give them that. I just pretend that didn’t happen. 4 Link to comment
truthaboutluv May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Second season in a row where a heavy favorite to win it all faltered at the fire making challenge. 1 Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, KaveDweller said: No, it was much later than Sophie's season. 38 or 39, I think. I think it was S35, when Ben was on the verge of being voted out and they couldn't hand him anymore idols at the final 4. 1 2 Link to comment
jsm1125 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I’d theorize that the fire making was introduced in season 35, purely to save Ben, who production and Probst loved. And that they haven’t gotten rid of it so they could plausibly deny that they instituted it to save Ben. 3 3 2 1 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, LadyChatts said: I think it was S35, when Ben was on the verge of being voted out and they couldn't hand him anymore idols at the final 4. Like I said, I don’t think it was set up just for him, but he did benefit greatly from it. 1 Link to comment
EllenB May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, willco said: Like Gabler was for me. Yes, it was surprising, I'lll give them that. See, they don't show us enough of camp life. Gabler seemed very well liked and respected by the other players, and its their opinion that counts. 1 Link to comment
iMonrey May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Lantern7 said: Like I said, I don’t think it was set up just for him, but he did benefit greatly from it. Hard disagree. They actually tried to pass it off as an "advantage." Last season Probst admitted it was actually a handicap. So he admitted they lied. 3 Link to comment
PaperTree May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, MerBearHou said: Proud of you, Carson. Great season, young man. Being now an old nerd kid, I had a soft spot for Carson. 2 1 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Anything can happen. Carolyn has the edit, Heidi has the fans, Yam Yam has the stealth. 1 Link to comment
pennben May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 One thing I’m not looking forward to here..yamyam always takes digs at Carolyn at tribal, I hope he makes his case and doesn’t try to tear her down. 1 1 Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, pennben said: One thing I’m not looking forward to here..yamyam always takes digs at Carolyn at tribal, I hope he makes his case and doesn’t try to tear her down. If he does I hope she dishes it right back to him, or that it turns off the jury. 1 1 Link to comment
iMonrey May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Lantern7 said: Anything can happen. Carolyn has the edit, Heidi has the fans, Yam Yam has the stealth. Editing is deliberately deceptive, more so now than ever. I doubt Carolyn will get a single vote. And everyone was convinced she would win all season based on the edit. Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Full circle with the interview. Didn’t think I’d like Carolyn back then. 3 Link to comment
mojoween May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 The hell? Why are we hearing a producer talking? This show is going right off the rails. 4 Link to comment
EllenB May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Since when do they have producers or camera people talking with contestants? That's BS. 2 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, mojoween said: The hell? Why are we hearing a producer talking? This show is going right off the rails. That’s how the season started. Full circle. Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Wow, someone not still in the game gets the episode quote? Not sure if I'd call it a banger season, but better than last season. 2 Link to comment
Lady Calypso May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, mojoween said: The hell? Why are we hearing a producer talking? This show is going right off the rails. Because it's a callback to episode 1, when we heard the producer speak to Carolyn in the very first scene. Link to comment
mojoween May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, Lantern7 said: That’s how the season started. Full circle. Oh. I hated that terrible show-opening confessional so I must have put the producer out of my head. C’mon on, jury. Please please just one “my question is you suck.” Please? 1 1 2 Link to comment
Lantern7 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, iMonrey said: Editing is deliberately deceptive, more so now than ever. I doubt Carolyn will get a single vote. And everyone was convinced she would win all season based on the edit. If that’s the case, I’m willing to join a hunting party to deal with the editors. 1 1 Link to comment
MerBearHou May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, EllenB said: Since when do they have producers or camera people talking with contestants? That's BS. In the talking heads? I think the producers always have talked with the contestants / asked prompting questions — this is just the first time we’ve heard the producer’s voice. Carolyn actually asked him a direct question which was the first we’ve ever heard as well. I didn’t mind, since it reflected where Carolyn was vs where Carolyn is at the end. 4 1 Link to comment
LadyChatts May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, mojoween said: Oh. I hated that terrible show-opening confessional so I must have put the producer out of my head. C’mon on, jury. Please please just one “my question is you suck.” Please? Sadly this new era of Survivor is too nice for that. If anything, a juror will say "I'm the one who sucked, so good on you for voting me out so I could go reflect." 6 Link to comment
PaperTree May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 Just now, LadyChatts said: Sadly this new era of Survivor is too nice for that. If anything, a juror will say "I'm the one who sucked, so good on you for voting me out so I could go reflect." "shudder" 1 Link to comment
Straycat80 May 25, 2023 Share May 25, 2023 I kind of miss the finale being on a set in California. I’d like to see everyone cleaned up, all the contestants together again, their families. But not Sia. 2 1 Link to comment
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