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[pamplemousse]

I can't take the owl theory seriously at all. Some crackpot who got mixed up with an owl was like Oh! maybe that's what happened to Kathleen Peterson because there were a couple of tiny owl feathers found on her body! I'm way better than the police detectives, case closed! Had she been attacked by an owl and batted at it, trying to fight it off, there would've been a lot more feathers on her. I can't believe people actually think that this evil narcissistic sociopath didn't kill her and an owl did it. They were in dire financial straits -- a lot of it due to his high-living habits -- she's about to lose her job which supported both of them, then she finds out he's been spending money on hooking up with other guys. She confronts him, threatens to cut him off, and it goes south from there.

If he didn't kill the other woman in Germany, it probably gave him ideas on how to stage Kathleen's death since the other lady's death was ruled accidental. In his infinite narcissism, it probably didn't occur to him at the time that instead of thinking it was accidental like what happened with the earlier case, it might raise suspicions as to how two women close to him ended up dead in very similar circumstances.

Edited April 9, 2017 by pamplemousse

[Guest]

11 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

For what it's worth, an owl swooped down and attacked my dad here in NC. He was wearing a cap, he'd been hunting at the time. He shot the owl as it came at him, it now sits on a nice perch on a shelf in dad's home. :)

Maybe we have crazy owls here, who knows.

Oh Cooksdelight.  I laughed hard at this.

Even though I have no idea what he looks like....I picture a sweet older man in a hunting vest, cap, and hunting boots muttering to himself as the owl attempts to attack him "why you son of a .....on my mantel - that's where you're going to end up"   BOOM!!!

Dad 1 Owl 0

[CelticBlackCat]

15 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Tonight was a repeat of "In Cold Blood"  which I forgot that I had seen until I saw Andrea's ugly ass wardrobe choices and her implying to the tv repair guy that the husband had instantly told the police that he was a suspect when in actuality the husband had naked two other people, one who was actually the killer, and only mentioned the tv dude when they found  a porn in the dvd player that wasn't his and his wife couldn't operate the electronics well which reminded him that a stranger was alone in the house with her the day before her murder.

I find it unprofessional to dress in halter tops while doing this kind of news show.  I noticed with the men she was wearing halter tops or halter dresses and with London Kite the prosecutor, she wore one with short sleeves!

[cooksdelight]

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

Oh Cooksdelight.  I laughed hard at this.

Even though I have no idea what he looks like....I picture a sweet older man in a hunting vest, cap, and hunting boots muttering to himself as the owl attempts to attack him "why you son of a .....on my mantel - that's where you're going to end up"   BOOM!!!

Dad 1 Owl 0

LOL!! Pretty close. It actually scared him and shooting it was more of a reflex action. It's a good-looking bird. 

[bubbls]

On 3/25/2017 at 5:23 PM, PsychoKlown said:

Am I the only one who thinks Dateline and 48 Hours is crazy predictable?

The other thing - I don't think a true SOB has ever died.  The deceased is always beautiful, friendly, the life-of-the-party, caring, without fault and always, always leaves family kissing them goodbye and telling them they love them.

Then, after all that we hear of the numerous affairs, the porn videos, the drugs, alcohol, the penchant for pushing people off cliffs while hiking, the wife swapping stories....all the things that make sense as to how this person died because in reality they weren't the saint the left behind family believes.

I did chuckle recently when they were discussing a female victim.  Apparently she lived a 'colorful' life.  Her family described her as all of the above mentioned then added that she was "feisty".  It later came out she and her live-in boyfriend got into "squabbles" and she took a gun and aimed it at his head and then shot the ceiling.  Feisty indeed.

And to add to all of this - I am in no way suggesting that anyone deserves to be murdered.  It just seems that sometimes the family left behind describes the deceased in saintly terms when in reality they were much more human than saint.

 

Oh my gosh, THIS! My mom has become fascinated with crime shows, and we've covered all these subjects. 

[bubbls]

I rewatched Dateline's "Bad Blood" about the twins Tasmiyah and Jasmiyah Whitehead killing their mother. Those were two creepy kids. I remember my first time seeing this episode, and the second I saw the interview room footage I knew they did it. 

[Mannahatta]

On 4/12/2017 at 1:58 PM, bubbls said:

I rewatched Dateline's "Bad Blood" about the twins Tasmiyah and Jasmiyah Whitehead killing their mother. Those were two creepy kids. I remember my first time seeing this episode, and the second I saw the interview room footage I knew they did it. 

Those two are textbook psychopaths to the core, and they'll be free in their forties! Free to threaten, harm and perhaps kill again. A few months ago Crime Watch Daily had a segment about them. What really stood out to me was a tape they showed of the twins, in prison of course, attending their GED/high school graduation ceremony. And who was there to celebrate and praise them but their maternal grandmother. Yes, the mother of their own mother, whom they had almost decapitated during their killing frenzy, was there on tape proclaiming how proud she was of them. How sick and twisted is that? If you care to be horrified further it's in the third tape of this link:

https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/10/27/single-mom-killed-by-twin-daughters-in-rage-over-strict-home-life/

[walnutqueen]

12 hours ago, Mannahatta said:

Those two are textbook psychopaths to the core, and they'll be free in their forties! Free to threaten, harm and perhaps kill again. A few months ago Crime Watch Daily had a segment about them. What really stood out to me was a tape they showed of the twins, in prison of course, attending their GED/high school graduation ceremony. And who was there to celebrate and praise them but their maternal grandmother. Yes, the mother of their own mother, whom they had almost decapitated during their killing frenzy, was there on tape proclaiming how proud she was of them. How sick and twisted is that? If you care to be horrified further it's in the third tape of this link:

https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/10/27/single-mom-killed-by-twin-daughters-in-rage-over-strict-home-life/

Yes, I saw that segment, and it sickened me.  Though I'm not surprised about Granny; she was the one who let them run wild when they lived with her, and they bitterly resented having to move back with their mother and some semblance of order, if I recall correctly.  

[bubbls]

13 hours ago, Mannahatta said:

Those two are textbook psychopaths to the core, and they'll be free in their forties! Free to threaten, harm and perhaps kill again. A few months ago Crime Watch Daily had a segment about them. What really stood out to me was a tape they showed of the twins, in prison of course, attending their GED/high school graduation ceremony. And who was there to celebrate and praise them but their maternal grandmother. Yes, the mother of their own mother, whom they had almost decapitated during their killing frenzy, was there on tape proclaiming how proud she was of them. How sick and twisted is that? If you care to be horrified further it's in the third tape of this link:

https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/10/27/single-mom-killed-by-twin-daughters-in-rage-over-strict-home-life/

You know, I wanted to believe the one was just a follower. The one with the mole on her nose. She'd lost a lot of weight before they were arrested so I wondered if it was guilt. However, I do think she's just as wicked but hides it better. The other one always looks like she's relishing the idea of slicing your throat, even in the old pre-crime photos. My mom described them as aliens wearing a human skin. They gave her the creeps from the second she saw them. 

They were described as sweethearts by their teachers. I don't know about that since that info came out of the grandmother's mouth. I think there are probably a lot of red flags in the past the show glossed over. They certainly made Nikki appear much better adjusted than she actually was. 

I'm kind of surprised by the grandmother's change of heart considering the harsh words she had for them previously. Yet I'm also not surprised by much. While she came across as the least nuts of the whole crew, the whole family was/is obviously pathologically dysfunctional. They probably conned her, and she was most likely willing to be conned. 

 

I wish someone would write a book. 

[ari333]

Wow. And I thought my family was fucked up.

[imjagain]

The episode about the young Tennessee woman killed by her ex boss, had me smh. I had never heard of a protective order that also specified that the people could still see each other socially... Huh? I don't know alot about protective orders but,  is that common?  This story seemed a little rushed to me. 

[cooksdelight]

I don't know why she'd want to be around him socially. That raised a lot of questions that weren't answered. I've never heard of such a thing, nor why a judge would sign off on that.

[imjagain]

8 minutes ago, cooksdelight said:

I don't know why she'd want to be around him socially. That raised a lot of questions that weren't answered. I've never heard of such a thing, nor why a judge would sign off on that.

Yeah, maybe that's why I felt it was rushed. A lot  seemed left out.  Seeing each other socially was crazy, why get a protective order?  And,  I'm so curious why a judge did sign off on that.  

[cooksdelight]

He essentially signed her death warrant.

[psychoticstate]

On 4/16/2017 at 5:59 AM, imjagain said:

The episode about the young Tennessee woman killed by her ex boss, had me smh. I had never heard of a protective order that also specified that the people could still see each other socially... Huh? I don't know alot about protective orders but,  is that common?  This story seemed a little rushed to me. 

I watched this episode and was utterly confused by a TRO that allowed you to say you still wanted social contact with a person you were claiming you needed a restraining order from.   The only thing I can figure would be if you worked in the same field or environment where you might have to be within 500 feet of each other, or something like that.  But once she no longer worked for him, there was ZERO reason for her to be anywhere around him.   And she apparently called him that day.  

So it seems like another woman who was in an abusive relationship, stalked by the guy, who seemed to believe that she could still be "friends" with him and call him up when she needed something.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I'm not trying to smack talk the victim because she certainly didn't deserve to be killed but honestly . . .WTF was she thinking? 

[BusyOctober]

In addition to 99% of the stories having predictable outcomes (spoiler alert...the spouse/ex/significant other did it), I'm also tired of hearing about all these 'women in jeopardy' tragedies.  As others have mentioned, everyone one of these murdered or raped or stalked women is described as an angel walking among mortals.  Even if their bad life choices are brought into the story (drugs, teen pregnancy, DUI's etc), we are told at the time of the murder, "she was just getting her life back on track" and somehow excelling in every way. They are the most devoted-est mom or daughter, most beautiful-est wife, the best-est BFF, the most brilliant-est student... It's annoying that the reporters (and the families) think they need to add superlatives to the poor dead woman's resume.  Why? To make the audience care more about a tragic loss? A local pageant winner with a toothy smile taken to soon from her family is more outrageous than some less attractive girl found dead in the woods?  It isn't a competition.  Pretty people don't "deserve" more pathos than average looking people, despite what tv and movies and social media try to tell me.

[UsernameFatigue]

On 4/16/2017 at 7:00 AM, cooksdelight said:

He essentially signed her death warrant.

Maybe, but she handed him the pen. Lets face it, the judge did not invent the form with the option to stay in contact. And she would presumably had to have asked the judge to do just that for him to check the box. I really wish they had explained why that was a part of the form, and why it was checked. In any case though, I think she would have called him regardless of whether it was on the order or not. She needed a ride and knew he would come running. Of course as others have said she didn't deserve to die, but why in the world would you call this guy (and most likely give mixed signals) if he has treated you this way? Not to mention she had an affair with him when he was married, then told the wife when she wanted to get rid of him.  Seems like she just kept making one bad decision after another.  

[cooksdelight]

2 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Maybe, but she handed him the pen

So true. This is one of those episodes where I wish someone would have asked "What in the hell was she thinking?"

[One Tough Cookie]

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Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

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[bubbls]

21 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

So true. This is one of those episodes where I wish someone would have asked "What in the hell was she thinking?"

I ask that all the time, but the cats have no opinions. 

[spankydoll]

On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 6:23 PM, PsychoKlown said:

Am I the only one who thinks Dateline and 48 Hours is crazy predictable?

I can tell in the first five minutes who did it by a few tips - either the person they're interviewing is in prison garb, or when the camera people try to hide the prison garb or you know who did it if the spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend isn't interviewed yet they show their picture umpteen times.

The other thing - I don't think a true SOB has ever died.  The deceased is always beautiful, friendly, the life-of-the-party, caring, without fault and always, always leaves family kissing them goodbye and telling them they love them.

Then, after all that we hear of the numerous affairs, the porn videos, the drugs, alcohol, the penchant for pushing people off cliffs while hiking, the wife swapping stories....all the things that make sense as to how this person died because in reality they weren't the saint the left behind family believes.

I did chuckle recently when they were discussing a female victim.  Apparently she lived a 'colorful' life.  Her family described her as all of the above mentioned then added that she was "feisty".  It later came out she and her live-in boyfriend got into "squabbles" and she took a gun and aimed it at his head and then shot the ceiling.  Feisty indeed.

And to add to all of this - I am in no way suggesting that anyone deserves to be murdered.  It just seems that sometimes the family left behind describes the deceased in saintly terms when in reality they were much more human than saint.

You should catch one of the specials about the murder of Ted Binion - he was a lowlife who was impossible to whitewash. He and the murderous stripper deserved each other.

One of my sisters is an addict - She has been sober for three years but made some very bad choices and acted in a destructive and violent manner. I could say a thousand wonderful things about her and her stint as an opiate addict isn't representative of her entire life or her entire being.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, spankydoll said:

You should catch one of the specials about the murder of Ted Binion - he was a lowlife who was impossible to whitewash. He and the murderous stripper deserved each other.

One of my sisters is an addict - She has been sober for three years but made some very bad choices and acted in a destructive and violent manner. I could say a thousand wonderful things about her and her stint as an opiate addict isn't representative of her entire life or her entire being.

That is awesome about your sisters' sobriety.  She deserves a boatload of credit. 

And while it's true that you can say a thousand wonderful things about her (and it's nice that you do) you still mention her flaws.  Because you see her as a wonderful person with flaws - we all have them but it's the scripted stilted comments that make their interview seem quite foolish.

Clients will tell counselors about their abusers - sometimes in horrific details.  Then when the abuser dies the pattern changes to how wonderful they were, plans we were going to make, no future without them etc. etc. etc.

Grief clouds their judgment and no amount of talking will help them see reality. 

I complain but in truth it's a mechanism to cope with the loss. 

[bubbls]

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

Clients will tell counselors about their abusers - sometimes in horrific details.  Then when the abuser dies the pattern changes to how wonderful they were, plans we were going to make, no future without them etc. etc. etc.

Grief clouds their judgment and no amount of talking will help them see reality. 

I complain but in truth it's a mechanism to cope with the loss. 

I saw this first hand when my mean uncle died. Suddenly instead of mean and cruel he was quirky. I just shook my head.

I suspect the shows are as much behind the whitewashing as the families. I'm a big girl wearing big girl pants. I don't need a prettied up version. I'm still interested even when the victims live high-risk lifestyles or make foolish decisions or don't light the room up as soon as they walk in. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, bubbls said:

I don't need a prettied up version. I'm still interested even when the victims live high-risk lifestyles or make foolish decisions or don't light the room up as soon as they walk in. 

You perfectly expressed my feelings too Bubbls. 

And I'll add one more thing.  No matter the life lived by the victim - it always gets to me when I see the children left behind.  They are the true victims and I more often than not comment that I wish I could take them and try to make them happier.

Sad all the way around.  

[One Tough Cookie]

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PSA--Lifetime will have a movie about Joyce Mitchell who helped the convicts in NY escape {Her Dateline was a 2 hr. job last fall}.  I read somewhere she has filed for parole but was turned down. She's where she needs to be and I say she should spend every day of her 7 1/2 year sentence. Movie should be good.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Social Piranha said:

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PSA--Lifetime will have a movie about Joyce Mitchell who helped the convicts in NY escape {Her Dateline was a 2 hr. job last fall}.  I read somewhere she has filed for parole but was turned down. She's where she needs to be and I say she should spend every day of her 7 1/2 year sentence. Movie should be good.

Thanks.  If you get an exact date please let me know.  I just hope they don't sugar-coat the truth too much.

I'm with you although I don't think 7.5 years are enough  and she wants parole.  Yeah, right.  And I suppose she wants her old job back too.

I hope the pathetic beast rots.

[cooksdelight]

Laci Peterson recap on tonight, I am not sure what more there is to say.

[LGGirl]

15 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

Laci Peterson recap on tonight, I am not sure what more there is to say.

Not much.  I lived in the area so was quite familiar with the case.  Learned nothing new.   I remember Scott's mom was a piece of work.  

He did it.  He planned it.  He needs to rot in jail.   

I feel for Laci's family.  Losing their daughter and grandson right before Christmas.   Just awful.  

[hoosiermom]

I had forgotten how creepy Scott and his affect were. Also, I bet Laci's family bristle every time they see Amber Fry trying to take center stage in the story. I remember when she was on one of those "I was married to the devil" shows. That really pissed ME off! They were nothing but fuck buddies at the time. Please go away Amber.

[saber5055]

I enjoyed watching the Laci recap, and I didn't mind Amber being a central figure on the show. Very few others wanted to be on camera, including Scott, who passed up a great opportunity to tell "his side." I found Amber interesting and the playback of those phone calls to be interesting too, especially the ones from Scott while he was in "Paris." One part that was left out: I want to know who that person was who set Amber up with Scott to begin with. THAT'S the guy I wanted to see interviewed. My takeaway was, while I am used to these stories about wives being murdered, this one affected me a great deal when I thought about 8-month-old Connor, who died inside his mother. THAT is what really got me about Laci's death, that Scott also murdered his son who was going to be born the next month.

[CelticBlackCat]

Amber Frye did the right thing by calling the police and then cooperating with the phone calls operation.  She truly didn't know SP was married until the newspaper article came out.

SP wasn't the type of person to give a boat as a gift to anyone.  Why would he spend that much money for a Christmas present when he's about to become a father and needs to save for the baby?

Truly chilling is the fact that Baby Conner was found outside the womb first.

I wish California would SP execute him already!

[BusyOctober]

I will never understand the twisted logic that if one is unhappy in ones relationship, or decides "oops! Changed my mind! I do not want marriage/children after all!", one should plot and commit murder instead of divorcing or leaving said relationship.  Yes, a divorce means paying attorneys, selling off assets and possibly providing spousal &/or child support for a number of years.  But how is paying support for 18 years a worse option than 18+ years in jail? Or death if convicted in a state with capital punishment? Most of these murderers like Scott Peterson are obviously sociopaths, with no thought to the victims' family or even their own family in the event they are finally caught, so I know their brains and (lack of) rationale are not "normal". It is a special kind of evil to kill ones own child just so he (or she) can escape a life they decide they don't want anymore.  Pack your bags, clear out the joint bank account, steal the family mini van and just skip town!  

[cooksdelight]

Keith missed a golden opportunity last night when he was interviewing the "journalist." When the guy claimed Scott wasn't going fishing, he wanted to take the boat out to test it before giving it to his step-father as a Christmas gift.

Then why did he tell the police he was fishing? Why not test it in a local, closer marina? 

Because he hoped the body would float out to sea, that's why!

[ElleBee]

Agreed on the "why not just get a divorce?" question, BusyOctober. In this case, I get the impression from people who talk about SP and from his interviews, that he was *very* invested in being the good guy who everyone loved. Sharon Roche talks about how he wooed her by bringing flowers and asking for her daughter's hand... And Amber talks about how considerate he was and how he'd grocery shop for her and her daughter and cook them dinner. He seemed like he had some compulsive need for people to love him and to think he was the greatest. So in his distorted, psychopathic mind, killing Laci was probably better than leaving her because he could milk the part of the bereft widowed husband instead of the dirtbag philanderer / abandoner-of-adorable-pregnant-wife husband. He also probably assumed they'd never figure it out--despite not covering his tracks particularly well--because he seemed to believe in that common criminal "I'm the smartest, most charming guy in the room" fallacy.

I read his half-sister's book about him a long time ago and I don't remember the details, but it's pretty consistent with that theme. If I remember right, he was a late-in-life baby whose mother completely doted on him and who could do absolutely no wrong in the family's eyes. Maybe that upbringing, combined with inherent psychopathic tendencies, was the exact wrong combination.

As for Amber, I'm sure it's hard for the family to be reminded of his affair, but I'd imagine they're super grateful for her coming forward and for being willing to go along with all those behind-the-scenes recorded conversations. After she was able to so clearly out him for being a pathological liar, I'm sure it was very hard for the jury to believe another word he said. Her evidence alone probably turned out to be the strongest for the prosecution.

[ridethemaverick]

Sorry to be so morbid but...did they find all of Laci's remains or just her torso? 

I followed the case back then but it was interesting to see it all in chronological order and with new details.

I remember reading a stat about how pregnant women are at higher risk of homicide and it blew my mind. Still does. But there must be something in these guys that snaps or gets set off by the idea of bringing new life into the world. Sick.

[Wings]

24 minutes ago, ridethemaverick said:

Sorry to be so morbid but...did they find all of Laci's remains or just her torso? 

I followed the case back then but it was interesting to see it all in chronological order and with new details.

I remember reading a stat about how pregnant women are at higher risk of homicide and it blew my mind. Still does. But there must be something in these guys that snaps or gets set off by the idea of bringing new life into the world. Sick.

As far as I know, just her torso.  Chilling to think her head and limbs were broken off by the tide.  You would think a human skull would wash up on shore.  

[cooksdelight]

Women in the last month of pregnancy are at risk of being kidnapped and killed by people who badly want a baby. This was just the opposite.

[ridethemaverick]

1 hour ago, wings707 said:

As far as I know, just her torso.  Chilling to think her head and limbs were broken off by the tide.  You would think a human skull would wash up on shore.  

Oh gosh, that's awful. Thanks for the info. 

@Cooksdelight, I believe most of the cases are intimate partner violence, which is almost scarier to me because the person you trust most when you're vulnerable, often the father of the child, is the one more likely to take your life.

[Wings]

1 hour ago, cooksdelight said:

Women in the last month of pregnancy are at risk of being kidnapped and killed by people who badly want a baby. This was just the opposite.

Scott is not very bright.  He did no planning at all.  He could have murdered her and taken the baby out and it would have been a slam dunk that someone murdered her for her baby. 

OR not kill her on xmas eve!  It is usually a family time getting ready for the next day or cuddling with a movie if going to inlaws xmas day.  AND he failed at being the grieving husband.  

ETA.  And Amber?  Stupid, stupid, stupid move. 

 

 

Clearly I watch too many of these shows! 

Edited April 23, 2017 by wings707

[ButterQueen]

23 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

Laci Peterson recap on tonight, I am not sure what more there is to say.

I followed every minute of the case, but I have been waiting for Dateline to cover this.  The cherry on top was Keith Morrison.

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I followed every minute of the case, but I have been waiting for Dateline to cover this.  The cherry on top was Keith Morrison.

They left one thing out.  There was an indentation on a bed in the house that looked as if he laid Lacy across the bed.  Not an important detail but since I followed this closely I remember that. 

[ButterQueen]

5 hours ago, wings707 said:

They left one thing out.  There was an indentation on a bed in the house that looked as if he laid Lacy across the bed.  Not an important detail but since I followed this closely I remember that. 

They left out several things, but if they covered everything, it would have been a 4-5 hour show.  

[hoosiermom]

Just to clarify my previous post, I am glad Amber Fry came forward. She absolutely did the right thing. But, after the trial her part was over and there was no need for her to continue to be involved in the case publicly. I just felt she was rubbing salt in the wounds of Laci's family. I hope this makes sense.

[saber5055]

I wonder if only Laci's torso floated up since the head/arms and legs were tethered to those coffee-can boat anchors Scott made in his shop. He is probably wishing he used that extra one around her waist. I can't comment on Amber's actions since the trial, although she has to be completely messed up after having been involved in that horrid event. Perhaps she can't get a job now, or live a normal life ... who knows. I don't. Maybe she needed the money from the reality shows. Who knows ... I don't. I will always give her props for breaking the case. And not knowing her or her situation now, I can't comment on whatever she did after that. I know if it were me, I would be forever messed up. Badly. To this day and beyond. Would I date anyone again? Have a relationship again? No. Never.

When I saw the previews for this episode, I was thinking it was about DREW Peterson, another wife killer, only much closer to where I live. That would make a great DL story, Keith.

[Mama No Life]

What's with the surname Peterson?  Mike and Kathleen Peterson were featured just a few weeks ago.  I meet someone named Peterson and I'm going the other way....

[pinguina]

I watched the recap of Laci Peterson last night.  The airing of Scott's initial police interview was very telling.  He saw Laci's car in the driveway, her purse on the counter, and knew she was going to bake cookies.  He shouted her name when he came in the house and there was no answer.  He looked quickly around the house and she wasn't there.  So he decided to eat something and after that take a shower.  Then after thinking about it he called her mom to see if had gone over there - how? Laci's car and purse (and I assume her keys, too) were at the house.  How does that even make sense?  

When this story was first reported (that a young pregnant wife was missing - no indication of murder yet) - I felt so sorry for her family and her husband.  Then details came out about maps of the tides, the "anchors", selling her car - those were of course very, very suspicious.  BUT when they found Scott Peterson in San Diego with luggage, someone else's passport, a bag of money, and he had grown a beard and dyed his hair - yeah, he did it.

[ButterQueen]

13 minutes ago, pinguina said:

I watched the recap of Laci Peterson last night.  The airing of Scott's initial police interview was very telling.  He saw Laci's car in the driveway, her purse on the counter, and knew she was going to bake cookies.  He shouted her name when he came in the house and there was no answer.  He looked quickly around the house and she wasn't there.  So he decided to eat something and after that take a shower.  Then after thinking about it he called her mom to see if had gone over there - how? Laci's car and purse (and I assume her keys, too) were at the house.  How does that even make sense?  

When this story was first reported (that a young pregnant wife was missing - no indication of murder yet) - I felt so sorry for her family and her husband.  Then details came out about maps of the tides, the "anchors", selling her car - those were of course very, very suspicious.  BUT when they found Scott Peterson in San Diego with luggage, someone else's passport, a bag of money, and he had grown a beard and dyed his hair - yeah, he did it.

Don't forget.....he washed his clothes.

2 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I wonder if only Laci's torso floated up since the head/arms and legs were tethered to those coffee-can boat anchors Scott made in his shop. He is probably wishing he used that extra one around her waist. I can't comment on Amber's actions since the trial, although she has to be completely messed up after having been involved in that horrid event. Perhaps she can't get a job now, or live a normal life ... who knows. I don't. Maybe she needed the money from the reality shows. Who knows ... I don't. I will always give her props for breaking the case. And not knowing her or her situation now, I can't comment on whatever she did after that. I know if it were me, I would be forever messed up. Badly. To this day and beyond. Would I date anyone again? Have a relationship again? No. Never.

When I saw the previews for this episode, I was thinking it was about DREW Peterson, another wife killer, only much closer to where I live. That would make a great DL story, Keith.

I think she should have disappeared from the media after the trial.  I believe she even wrote a book.  

Edited April 23, 2017 by ButterQueen

[hoosiermom]

This tells some of what Amber Frey has been doing past 10 years.https://www.bustle.com/articles/160363-what-happened-to-amber-frey-scott-petersons-girlfriend-shes-trying-to-put-the-case-behind-her  She says she wants to put it all behind her but she keeps giving interviews. Hmmmm

[cooksdelight]

She hitched her wagon to Gloria Allred, that woman won't let any of her clients sit quietly.

[partofme]

I have no problem with Amber Frye.    None.    Without her Scott may never have been convicted. 

I did wonder what is wrong with that journalist that thinks Scott is innocent.