Season 24 Live Feeds Discussion

[Callaphera]

Still nothing, eh? Boo.

[Lady Calypso]

We'll see how true this is, but this is one of the more reliable BB spoiler accounts so I trust it.

[PaperTree]

Well that will throw some wrenches in Grodner's gears.😎

Live show should be quite interesting tonight.

Reading this thread, our feedwatchers saw this coming with her erratic behavior.

[Slider]

If it's true, that's a good thing for Paloma.  She needed help, and I'm glad she's getting it.  If it's not true, and it's temporary, my hope is she's still getting help.  It started out being entertaining, but it went scary fast, and watching someone go through that and knowing it's real is not fun.

ETA: I do find the humor in another one of productions twists falling apart before they happen 🤣

Edited July 14, 2022 by Slider

[peachmangosteen]

Poloma must have tried to murder somebody or something for them to just abruptly get rid of her right before the first live eviction. She's been showing signs she's spiraling since day 3 so I don't get why they'd be like 'that's enough' at this moment.

[LoveLeigh]

7 minutes ago, Slider said:

 It started out being entertaining, but it went scary fast, and watching someone go through that and knowing it's real is not fun.

I am missing something... I get that Paloma said some bizarre things like thinking they were in some type of INCEPTION setting and saying she hacked the game, but can somebody please provide some other examples of her behavior that indicated she became scary and needed serious enough help for her to be removed from the show? 

I have seen some very awful behavior over the years on that show and saying she thinks they are in some INCEPTION type of thing I have heard people say in real life... like we are in a computer simulation here on earth. What did Paloma do that was so scary? HGs always bully each other. 

A list would be great. Thanks in advance. 

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Poloma must have tried to murder somebody or something for them to just abruptly get rid of her right before the first live eviction. She's been showing signs she's spiraling since day 3 so I don't get why they'd be like 'that's enough' at this moment.

How was she spiraling? I sure am missing something on those feeds....

[Callaphera]

I guess Paloma threatened the bathroom mirror when she threw an orange at it to break out of the matrix? So a Chima style "destruction of property" expulsion?

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

I guess Paloma threatened the bathroom mirror when she threw an orange at it to break out of the matrix? So a Chima style "destruction of property" expulsion?

Ah, I could see that.

[30 Helens]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

She's been showing signs she's spiraling since day 3 so I don't get why they'd be like 'that's enough' at this moment.

Exactly. Although I don’t think it took as long as day 3. She was zipping around like a hyperactive hummingbird on opening night.

If she is really gone it sucks for Paloma, because she had most of the houseguests wrapped around her twitchy little finger and I think she would have gone far in this game.

It sucks for us because she was one of the few sources of entertainment in this dreary cast. What, are we supposed to watch them strategize civilly now?

It sucks for production because… nah, it doesn’t matter for them. They already sucked. But seriously, how do mental issues keep flying through the cracks like this?

[Callaphera]

I mean I was joking but yeah, she did throw an orange at a bathroom mirror - it didn't do anything and it was... two days ago?

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, 30 Helens said:

If she is really gone it sucks for Paloma, because she had most of the houseguests wrapped around her twitchy little finger and I think she would have gone far in this game.

I would have agreed a couple days ago but starting yesterday most of them really started to get tired of her. It's hard to tell how she would have faired.

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

I mean I was joking but yeah, she did throw an orange at a bathroom mirror - it didn't do anything and it was... two days ago?

Noooo lol! Oh ok then it wasn't that because they're not gonna wait 2 days and send her home right before the reveal of a twist she's involved in for that.

[choclatechip45]

The only thing that she did that would violate the rules is when she told people she would invest in their businesses if they won and then the next day saying if she did that she would be sued.

Edited July 14, 2022 by choclatechip45

[Callaphera]

Wasn't that also two days ago? Or am I mixing it up with the time she said she would get sued if she slept in the storage room but she had read the ginormous handbook in there and- we don't know the rest because the feed moved to another room but we heard her getting spanked with a "You are not allowed to talk about Production" from alllll the way upstairs.

ETA: Also, the rules book is SO MUCH THICKER than it ever was. It's like a frickin' textbook this season.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Callaphera

[Lamb18]

Nice bunnies!

Well I hope Paloma gets some treatment and she can be back on the show. In watching the episode last night, it seems she started spiraling when she told the lie about Taylor. You could see the before and after.

Nice black and white puppy.

Back to Battle of the Titans - Kitten Wars!

With all of Paloma's talk about poltergeists, Inception, etc. something weird happened this morning. My air conditioner suddenly turned around a half hour and I wondered why since it was cool in the house. It kept going and it seemed weird when the thermostat should have been set to 75 and it felt cooler than that. I checked and the house temp was 71 and thermostat was set to 45!!

It's like the feeds button boy came over to my house and held the thermostat down until it hit 45.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Lamb18

[peachmangosteen]

27 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

The only thing that she did that would violate the rules is when she told people she would invest in their businesses if they won and then the next day saying if she did that she would be sued.

But that was like 2 days ago so I still don't understand why they'd wait until now to do something.

[Lady Whistleup]

8 hours ago, Lady Whistleup said:

While we are in downtime bc of Paloma, apparently there’s some shit brewing between Tiff and X. 

Something related to the Challenge. X saved Alyssa instead of Tiffany and Tiffany got offended. Some twitter outrage.

[LakeGal]

I wonder if Paloma's family was watching the feeds?  They might have been worried about her and contacted the show to rescue her.  

[iMonrey]

They really need to do a better job vetting these HGs. Especially if they're on medication for mental health issues. They shouldn't have even been allowed in the house. It goes to show how desperate the show is for "personalities" that will cause drama. "Ooh, this one suffers from anxiety and depression. Sign her up!"

[Lamb18]

The fuzzy bunny with the short ears is cute!

[PaperTree]

Does Xanax get you high?

35 years ago I was in a small car accident and strained my neck.  (it had hurt for years😎)

They gave me Xanax and something else and said they were muscle relaxants.

After 47 visits to physical therapy, my neck hasn't hurt since😎

Point being, I never felt high from it (and I've had experience) or really anything different when I was taking it regularly for about 6 months.  I did start to feel very rubbery towards the end, that's about it.  No mood changes that I noticed, just kept grinding away at work like normal., come home, drink beer

[Callaphera]

I feel like there have been more HGs (in recent seasons) than not with mental health diagnoses, neurodivergence, what have you, that have been medicated and survived... well, maybe not just fine but all right in the house. I don't think not casting people with mental health issues or people medicated for those issues is the answer. That would be ableist (? I think the term would apply here). I think they need to support the HGs better with actual therapists on call and maybe a weekly check-in with a doctor to make sure everything is still tickety-boo. I think they need to better prepare the HGs before they enter the house. And yeah, better screening. That probably opens them up to more liability, though, so it's easier for Production to stick their fingers in their ears and LALALA their way through it. There's probably some legal issues that I'm glossing over, too.

Imagine if Vanessa Rousso was playing in a current season behaving the same way she did back in BB17. There would be an outcry to wrap her in a blanket and remove her from the house for her own mental health - but she finished in third place and is still reasonably sane. (I say reasonably because you have to be a liiiitle out of it to want to be on a show like Big Brother.)

4 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

Does Xanax get you high?

Xanax chills you out. It's a benzo, commonly prescribed as a "rescue" med for people with anxiety or other mental health issues in addition to their usual medication. It's also pretty addictive and IMO fun. I usually get prescribed two 0.5mg benzos sublingual prior to dentist appointments because I have a phobia and it makes me a little more relaxed and less likely to try and grab at the dentist when they put poky things in my mouth.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Callaphera

[watch2much]

36 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

They really need to do a better job vetting these HGs. Especially if they're on medication for mental health issues. They shouldn't have even been allowed in the house. It goes to show how desperate the show is for "personalities" that will cause drama. "Ooh, this one suffers from anxiety and depression. Sign her up!"

you should watch the tv series "Unreal" that portrays a bachelor type reality series production.  it shows how they chose and manipulate the contestants....and I suspect it's a pretty accurate depiction.

[Lady Whistleup]

37 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

They really need to do a better job vetting these HGs. Especially if they're on medication for mental health issues. They shouldn't have even been allowed in the house. It goes to show how desperate the show is for "personalities" that will cause drama. "Ooh, this one suffers from anxiety and depression. Sign her up!"

This is somewhat narrow-minded. Many ppl take medicine for depression and anxiety. What BB needs to do is not withhold those medications.

I suffer from anxiety and take medications for it. I'm just fine! 

I also think that stigma against mental illnesses is very ignorant. Most ppl with mental illnesses are absolutely normal ppl.

[kassandra8286]

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9 hours ago, silverspoons said:

Plenty of cast takes meds. BB21 there was a line to the DR every night. They have to be approved before the season and have a valid prescription and be taken as directed. 

I wonder if there are recently imposed exceptions or extra hoops for BB to jump through in order to dispense a controlled substance, though (which Xanax is). My husband takes Norco for a chronic and degenerative musculoskeletal condition and in the last year or so things have gotten a lot more restrictive.  Do contestants with ADHD who are prescribed Adderall get to take it while in the house? 

[Nashville]

5 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I think Paloma is undergoing some Inception therapy. Whatever happens next will definitely be her idea, not something Grodner implanted for the sake of ratings and drama. Oh, and if you see a spinning top? Ignore it. It’s nothing but a fevered Xanax dream.

I guess now would not be the best time to mention I have a really cool Inception top…

[SummerDreams]

I think that they had decided to remove her days ago because maybe she hid from them she was on medications and/or her parents asked them to do so, but they were waiting for the episode on Wednesday to be aired and then remove her because they had it ready.

[Callaphera]

https://twitter.com/sharontharp/status/1547612005883736065

[Lady Whistleup]

12 minutes ago, kassandra8286 said:

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I wonder if there are recently imposed exceptions or extra hoops for BB to jump through in order to dispense a controlled substance, though (which Xanax is). My husband takes Norco for a chronic and degenerative musculoskeletal condition and in the last year or so things have gotten a lot more restrictive.  Do contestants with ADHD who are prescribed Adderall get to take it while in the house? 

No if she has a valid prescription they should give it to her. 

I wonder if Paloma is detoxing from... other substances. 

Eta: DR also prescribes things. I remember Basic Becky had an infected toe and was given antibiotics and a painkiller by the DR. 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Lady Whistleup

[Callaphera]

Also:

https://twitter.com/sharontharp/status/1547611659979542534

[Auntie Velvet]

I have a feeling that if Paloma really is gone, it will actually make the feeds better. If someone goes from eccentric to downright spiraling with paranoia and nonstop plotting and gossiping, it tends to suck the air out of a space. This might actually let people form more interesting relationships.

[Slider]

I'm guessing feeds will be on this black & white bunny nibbling on a pine cone for the next 8 hours then, huh...

[peachmangosteen]

Oh yea, feeds will be down until at least after tonight’s episode and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t come back for a long while after the episode as well.

[TimWil]

POn another message board someone claimed that somebody named Yvonne would be Paloma’s replacement?

ETA Scratch that. It turned out it was somebody mistakenly calling Nicole “Yvonne.” Come to think of it she does look like more of an Yvonne than a Nicole.

Edited July 14, 2022 by TimWil

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, TimWil said:

On another message board someone claimed that somebody named Yvonne would be Paloma’s replacement?

That's actually me. I didn't want to tell you guys I was going to be the replacement HG, the whole cat going to the vet thing this morning was code word for "becoming besties with Grodner". She lets me call her Groddy now, we're going to get matching tattoos, it's so cute.

Nah but watch Paloma still be in the house, chilling on the couch come the live eviction, and then we'll have a new rumour that she was replaced by her cousin Yvonne like how Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by her cousin Melissa.

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Oh yea, feeds will be down until at least after tonight’s episode and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t come back for a long while after the episode as well.

I won't be mad if it isn't until the west coast viewing but that's because I don't want to have to get up two hours early.

[peachmangosteen]

With the next twist being pairs, does that suggest the plan was always for 2 people to be evicted in the first eviction because otherwise there’d be an odd number of HGs. Or I guess maybe the HOH doesn’t get a pair.

[Callaphera]

Did you guys see Julie take a shot at BB Twitter? LOL forever.

From Parade's interview with Julie today:

Parade: "So then to that point, let's talk about the Taylor side of things. Because it's been tough to see her feel so much isolation by the other houseguests during just the first week of the season to the point where she's been reduced to tears. What are your thoughts about her reaction to what some call is a mob mentality building in the house?"

Julie: It's so interesting that you use the term "mob mentality." Because isn't that what Twitter has done? Aren't you all being hypocrites? There has been this mob mentality created against people in the house, who viewers feel have not been kind to Taylor. I think anytime you're nominated, it'll bring you to tears. Because at the end of the day, you want to be liked. And when you get named as a nominee, you get the sense, "Oh, they want me out. The majority wants me out." But I feel for Taylor, who's been told that she has rubbed some people the wrong way. We all walk through life thinking that we're good, decent people. You don't set out to be unlikable. It hurts. It hurts and I have sympathy for her. I have sympathy for everyone in that house. It's not easy."

Also she said that we should leave the judging up to God but after 24 seasons, I'd say we're fairly good at judging every year's crop of assholes. I'm almost a professional at this point. BB Twitter, of course, is starting petitions to have Julie fired and replaced with Da'Vonne.

[peachmangosteen]

Julie does need to go. She’s awful lol.

[Slider]

20 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

With the next twist being pairs, does that suggest the plan was always for 2 people to be evicted in the first eviction because otherwise there’d be an odd number of HGs. Or I guess maybe the HOH doesn’t get a pair.

But then how do they pair up when they aren't HOH?  There would eventually be unpaired people, or they would have to do the golden key crap again.  I don't see that happening.  If they really are doing pairs, then Taylor's still leaving.  

[Callaphera]

That means that pairs would only last one week, though, because it'll be uneven the next week. So it's Bestie Fest(ie) this week only?

[Nashville]

2 hours ago, Nashville said:

I guess now would not be the best time to mention I have a really cool Inception top…

Picture porn for those unfamiliar with what’s being discussed:

[CrazyDog]

33 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Did you guys see Julie take a shot at BB Twitter? LOL forever.

From Parade's interview with Julie today:

Parade: "So then to that point, let's talk about the Taylor side of things. Because it's been tough to see her feel so much isolation by the other houseguests during just the first week of the season to the point where she's been reduced to tears. What are your thoughts about her reaction to what some call is a mob mentality building in the house?"

Julie: It's so interesting that you use the term "mob mentality." Because isn't that what Twitter has done? Aren't you all being hypocrites? There has been this mob mentality created against people in the house, who viewers feel have not been kind to Taylor. I think anytime you're nominated, it'll bring you to tears. Because at the end of the day, you want to be liked. And when you get named as a nominee, you get the sense, "Oh, they want me out. The majority wants me out." But I feel for Taylor, who's been told that she has rubbed some people the wrong way. We all walk through life thinking that we're good, decent people. You don't set out to be unlikable. It hurts. It hurts and I have sympathy for her. I have sympathy for everyone in that house. It's not easy."

Also she said that we should leave the judging up to God but after 24 seasons, I'd say we're fairly good at judging every year's crop of assholes. I'm almost a professional at this point. BB Twitter, of course, is starting petitions to have Julie fired and replaced with Da'Vonne.

She is so insufferable. She hosts a show based on lying, scheming and backstabbing for money, gifted by a judgmental jury, and then spouts off in the interview? lol indeed. 

Also, nice headline, there, Parade: "Controverial" lol. (Sorry, Julie, am I being too judgy?)

[30 Helens]

51 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Nah but watch Paloma still be in the house, chilling on the couch come the live eviction, and then we'll have a new rumour that she was replaced by her cousin Yvonne like how Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by her cousin Melissa.

Or like how Christie put on a wig and changed her name to Claire.

I mean, that’s obviously the same person, right?

So maybe Paloma will shave her head and we will be introduced to Penny, a veterinary nurse from Chicago.

(It’s a shame I’m not on Twitter. I could totally get this rumor going.)

49 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

With the next twist being pairs, does that suggest the plan was always for 2 people to be evicted in the first eviction because otherwise there’d be an odd number of HGs. Or I guess maybe the HOH doesn’t get a pair.

Maybe that’s what the Backstage twist was about: one of those backstage passes would be converted to a backdoor pass based on a comp or something. We may never know now. Although I guess they could still arrange for Paloma to get the pass by changing it from a comp to HoH choice, and planting a little Inception suggestion in Daniel’s mop head. (Proving Paloma was right all along… it was always about the spinning tops.)

[Blissfool]

1 hour ago, CrazyDog said:

She is so insufferable. She hosts a show based on lying, scheming and backstabbing for money, gifted by a judgmental jury, and then spouts off in the interview? lol indeed. 

But isn't that what Julie is saying? We're watching a show based on lying, scheming, and backstabbing, yet we (Twitter) get mad when there is lying, scheming, and backstabbing. 

[choclatechip45]

6 hours ago, Blissfool said:

But isn't that what Julie is saying? We're watching a show based on lying, scheming, and backstabbing, yet we (Twitter) get mad when there is lying, scheming, and backstabbing. 

yeah that was interpretation as well. My biggest issue with the article is her dismissing the microagressions/racism  against Taylor as just Big Brother gameplay, but there is no way Julie watches the feeds so she probably has no idea what is going on. 

The only thing I like about Julie is that she in general she has liked various female houseguests and not the alpha males ie Janelle, Dani Donato, Davonne, Tiffany last year. 

Edited July 15, 2022 by choclatechip45

[Thalia]

2 hours ago, Nashville said:

4 hours ago, Nashville said:

I guess now would not be the best time to mention I have a really cool Inception top…

Picture porn for those unfamiliar with what’s being discussed:

LOL.  when you said you had a "top" I pictured a really, cool t-shirt.  Maybe one with bunnies.  

[Auntie Velvet]

2 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Did you guys see Julie take a shot at BB Twitter? LOL forever.

From Parade's interview with Julie today:

Parade: "So then to that point, let's talk about the Taylor side of things. Because it's been tough to see her feel so much isolation by the other houseguests during just the first week of the season to the point where she's been reduced to tears. What are your thoughts about her reaction to what some call is a mob mentality building in the house?"

Julie: It's so interesting that you use the term "mob mentality." Because isn't that what Twitter has done? Aren't you all being hypocrites? There has been this mob mentality created against people in the house, who viewers feel have not been kind to Taylor. I think anytime you're nominated, it'll bring you to tears. Because at the end of the day, you want to be liked. And when you get named as a nominee, you get the sense, "Oh, they want me out. The majority wants me out." But I feel for Taylor, who's been told that she has rubbed some people the wrong way. We all walk through life thinking that we're good, decent people. You don't set out to be unlikable. It hurts. It hurts and I have sympathy for her. I have sympathy for everyone in that house. It's not easy."

Also she said that we should leave the judging up to God but after 24 seasons, I'd say we're fairly good at judging every year's crop of assholes. I'm almost a professional at this point. BB Twitter, of course, is starting petitions to have Julie fired and replaced with Da'Vonne.

Oh, Julie -- talk about false equivalencies. Taylor has to try to do well at a game while under these immediate conditions, which is not the case with the others in the house. (Obviously some may face a backlash when they come out, but viewer criticism might have dissipated by then.)

Not to mention Julie just sweeping the idea of microaggressions under the carpet. I'm also tired of her God-bothering. Support the women who your husband ruined and then maybe you can act holier-than-thou!  (Sorry to rant!)

[CrazyDog]

19 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

But isn't that what Julie is saying? We're watching a show based on lying, scheming, and backstabbing, yet we (Twitter) get mad when there is lying, scheming, and backstabbing. 

Just IMO, but I don't think the anger about how Taylor has been treated is over typical BB play, but the microagressions, etc. 

And no one is saying that the cesspool that is Twitter is anything better, but I just can't with Julie's whole "don't judge anyone, only God can judge" comments when she hosts such a shady show. She acts like she's above it all, when she's right down in the muck of it, benefitting from it, and now lecturing the fans about "hypocrisy". 

And I agree that Julie doesn't watch the feeds, but just gets enough highlights to host the show. I don't think she's really aware of the details that go on.

[TimWil]

I just don’t get why these “microaggressions” towards Taylor are being magnified (see what I did there?), though. These “microaggressions” have been expressed in pretty much every season so it doesn’t make sense to me why this season’s are any different.

[Auntie Velvet]

4 minutes ago, TimWil said:

I just don’t get why these “microaggressions” towards Taylor are being magnified (see what I did there?), though. These “microaggressions” have been expressed in pretty much every season so it doesn’t make sense to me why this season’s are any different.

I think because we as a society are gaining a better vocabulary for talking about this, as well as more insight, as the years go on? Jeff Probst has talked about how there are things that Survivor let slide or even perpetuated in earlier seasons that they would never let stand now. 

[30 Helens]

30 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

But isn't that what Julie is saying? We're watching a show based on lying, scheming, and backstabbing, yet we (Twitter) get mad when there is lying, scheming, and backstabbing. 

Lying, scheming and backstabbing are great! That’s what we’re here for! It’s the bullying, stereotyping, and ganging up on I could do without.

4 minutes ago, TimWil said:

These “microaggressions” have been expressed in pretty much every season so it doesn’t make sense to me why this season’s are any different.

They’re not. Which makes them just as bad as before. Which has never been acceptable.