tv echo July 31, 2023 Share July 31, 2023 (edited) Box Office: ‘Barbie’ Scores Massive $93 Million, ‘Oppenheimer’ Adds Huge $46 Million in Second Weekends By Rebecca Rubin July 30, 2023https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/barbie-box-office-oppenheimer-second-weekend-records-1235681039/ Quote Greta Gerwig’s cotton candy-colored fantasy comedy again led the way, adding a massive $93 million between Friday and Sunday. Ticket sales for “Barbie” declined just 43% from its debut and resulted in the seventh-biggest second weekend in history. The only movies that enjoyed bigger sophomore outing tallies were billion-dollar behemoths “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” ($149 million), “Avengers: Endgame” ($147 million) and “Infinity War” ($114 million), “Black Panther” ($111 million), “Jurassic World” ($106 million) and “The Avengers” ($103 million). * * * “Weekend two proves the outpouring of interest in ‘Barbie’ and ‘Oppenheimer’ a week ago was not a fluke,” says Paul Dergarabedian, a senior Comscore analyst. “Both films put up second weekend numbers that would have been considered solid as debuts and reflect two of the best sophomore session holds in box office history.” After two weeks on the big screen, “Barbie” has generated $351.4 million in North America to stand as the fourth-biggest domestic release of the year. Globally, the Warner Bros. film has grossed more than $750 million and ranks as the third-largest film of the year. * * * “July would have been a lukewarm month, but then ‘Barbie’ and ‘Oppenheimer’ arrived; moviegoing exploded,” says Gross. “Within one week, July caught up to its pre-pandemic average.” Edited July 31, 2023 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8092243
kiddo82 July 31, 2023 Share July 31, 2023 Been thinking that America Ferrera's speech reminded me a lot of Laura Dern's "Mary Mother of Jesus" speech from Marriage Story. Funny since movies involved Noah Baumbach. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8092731
theredhead77 August 1, 2023 Share August 1, 2023 I can't wait until Gloria's speech is freely available to use. I've seen it online but I'm not comfortable using something that may have been recorded in the theater. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8093322
Ohiopirate02 August 1, 2023 Share August 1, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 6:43 PM, kiddo82 said: For me the best part was the Barbies distracting the Ken's. "I've never seen the Godfather before. Can you start it over and talk through the entire thing?" Been. There. What really sold that for me was Issa's pronunciation of God Father. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8093930
angora August 3, 2023 Share August 3, 2023 It took me about two weeks to find a showing with few enough people in it for my COVID-conscious butt, even on a weekday, but I finally got a chance to see it. On the whole, I really loved it. Things get wild and I don't think everything always holds together, but I appreciate Greta Gerwig really going for it and doing something so ambitious and different. Margot Robbie is sublime as Barbie. She nails the perkiness, the slightly confused innocence, the existential crisis, the pulling herself together to save Barbieland, and so much more. I love the scene where she's sitting on the bench looking at all the people and experiencing so many feelings, culminating in her lovely exchange with the older woman. She plays so well off everyone she interacts with, especially Ryan Gosling and America Ferrera. Loved all the other Barbies and just wish we got more of them. Obviously, Kate McKinnon is terrific as Weird Barbie--I love that the Barbieland version of of "blue pill/red pill" involves footwear--and I also really liked Issa Rae, Alexandra Shipp, and the scene of everyone freaking out over the flat feet. Ryan Gosling is just fearless as Ken. He goes for broke from start to finish, equal parts clueless, absurd, and insecure. His outfits just keep getting better and better, and the Matchbox 20 scene is genius. All the Kens definitely understand the assignment, though, and they're great to watch as a collective. Gosling's rivalry with Simu Liu is great, and after Secret Invasion was so disappointing, it's awesome to watch Kingsley Ben-Adir be so effortlessly endearing and hilarious even in a smaller role. And Allan! Every time he pops up, he's just used *so* well. Michael Cera is a hoot. I love when he specifically explains, "All [Ken's] clothes fit me," before fighting the construction Kens. America Ferrera is wonderful as Gloria. I'd guessed that Barbie was there for her and not Sasha, but the reveal is still nicely done, and Gloria's speech is a big highlight in a movie that's not short on highlights. The themes are very on the nose and a bit Feminism 101, but I don't mind that. Barbie's experience being objectified in the Real World is really well done, and I like the "It's Barbie, and it's Ken" resolution. And yes, all the jokes in the montage of the Barbies distracting the Kens are fantastic. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8095050
tv echo August 4, 2023 Share August 4, 2023 (edited) ‘Barbie’ to Stream on Max in the Fall as David Zaslav Touts Traditional Window Adam Chitwood August 3, 2023https://www.thewrap.com/barbie-streaming-max-when/ Quote “Barbie” is the biggest box office hit of the year, but don’t expect it to be streaming on Max anytime soon. Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav touted the film’s monumental success on the company’s second-quarter earnings call, but reiterated that the company is committed to a traditional movie window for its releases, with “Barbie” set to hit Max in the fall. “We really believe in the motion picture window. Let this movie go to the motion picture window, play it up, build up that brand, then have it go into PVOD. Take it through these windows of economics that have worked forever, and we think work extremely well. And then put it on Max. And when it goes on Max, we think it’ll have a very good impact and that’ll be in the fall.” Edited August 4, 2023 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8096740
Trini August 4, 2023 Share August 4, 2023 (edited) Movie score now available: https://lnk.to/BarbieScoreID https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBKadB95sF47ve8IB_QvPrsTDPR85fwM3 [ETA:] Edited August 10, 2023 by Trini Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8097059
WendyCR72 August 5, 2023 Share August 5, 2023 You knew it was inevitable: Mattel has now listed a "Weird Barbie" on their merch website. 1 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8097810
Nidratime August 5, 2023 Share August 5, 2023 Just saw the movie tonight. Instead of wearing the color pink, I wore actual pink. I wore a T-shirt from a PINK concert I attended years ago, which is black but has a lovely rendering of Pink on the front wearing a pink tutu with the word Pink on the front and on the back. Thought it was an interesting way of expressing the same sentiment. ;-) Many people have made observations I would've made, so I'll just mention a couple of smaller ones. Initially I wasn't getting Ken's fascination with horses, other than him seeing manly police riding them in the real world. However, I recall how it's practically a stereotype that little girls love horses. Ken is a doll made for little girls to play with so his attraction to horses particularly makes sense on a second level. Another thing I thought about during the movie ... when Ken is having his melt down after being confronted about what he did to BarbieLand and his need for identity, I wanted so much for G.I. Joe to do a cameo, drop in, and slap Ken in a "snap out of it" move ala Cher in Moonstruck. LOL! (Of course, this couldn't happen because G.I. Joe is a Hasbro product, not Mattel's.) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8097830
twoods August 5, 2023 Share August 5, 2023 I couldn’t stop laughing during the beach off. It went on for a little too long, but I absolutely loved Ryan Gosling and Simu Liu mood dancing. Seemed like they had a blast filming the movie. Well done movie. I don’t think the feminism plot was too much, because some of it was also Ken feeling so insignificant and unloved so it balanced everything out perfectly. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098114
Ohiopirate02 August 5, 2023 Share August 5, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, WendyCR72 said: You knew it was inevitable: Mattel has now listed a "Weird Barbie" on their merch website. Thus missing the point of Weird Barbie. On brand for corporate America. Edited August 5, 2023 by Ohiopirate02 9 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098213
AimingforYoko August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 Buying a pre-made Weird Barbie is like buying pre-ripped jeans. (Never understood that one.) 9 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098618
Trini August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 Author notes that none of the top talent have any sequel deals in place, which works out in their favor (if they agree to do a sequel), re: negotiations; at Hollywood Reporter: '‘Barbie’ Is About to Be a $1 Billion Movie, But Has No Sequel in Sight' I hope Gerwig takes a page out of Nolan's handbook and only does a sequel if they let her make Whatever She Wants. ... Now, 'should there be a sequel?', is another conversation entirely. --- 9 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said: On 8/4/2023 at 10:07 PM, WendyCR72 said: You knew it was inevitable: Mattel has now listed a "Weird Barbie" on their merch website. Thus missing the point of Weird Barbie. On brand for corporate America. Ugh - yeah, I heard about this. Of course Mattel would want to make dolls of the movie characters, but it's just wrong on principle! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098666
Scarlett45 August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 I haven’t seen the movie yet, I am really looking forward to it, but I saw this at a local coffee shop and I wanted to share with you all. 4 5 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098679
Leeds August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 I had never heard of "him" before the movie and I am still gob smacked at the idea that Sugar Daddy Ken was a real thing. (Loved Rob Brydon.) 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8098722
AimingforYoko August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 (edited) Ryan Gosling gave Greta Gerwig a very special birthday present. Edited August 6, 2023 by AimingforYoko 5 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099003
thuganomics85 August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 Barbie officially grossed $1 billion dollars worldwide. Time to celebrate! Chin up, "Go Woke, Go Broke" crowd! 7 2 8 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099030
Trini August 6, 2023 Share August 6, 2023 Wooo! 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099171
Crs97 August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 Finally saw it tonight, and maybe it was overhyped? I really enjoyed it, but didn’t cry or question my existence like I’ve seen so many do online. Son told me to grab tissues, but not a hint of a tear. Loved the dancing and Ken’s song and narrator’s note to the filmmakers about the problem with casting Margot to make a point about not being pretty enough. The acting was great across the board, but maybe I’m still too blown away by Oppenheimer to fully appreciate this one. It probably also doesn’t help that I just had my sisters’ old Barbie, and my mother was not a fan of the doll. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099859
theredhead77 August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 6:39 AM, tv echo said: ‘Barbie’ to Stream on Max in the Fall as David Zaslav Touts Traditional Window Adam Chitwood August 3, 2023https://www.thewrap.com/barbie-streaming-max-when/ I really want to buy Barbie on DVD Blu Ray. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099899
WendyCR72 August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, theredhead77 said: I really want to buy Barbie on DVD Blu Ray. Ask and ye shall receive. Here is the pre-order link! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8099934
tv echo August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 (edited) Weekend Box Office: BARBIE Reaches $1B Global; MEG 2: THE TRENCH Chomps Second Place, TMNT MUTANT MAYHEM Finishes Fourth News & Analysis • Boxoffice Staff • August 06 2023https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-barbie-meg-2-trench-oppenheimer-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mutant-mayhem/ Quote Warner Bros.’ comedy declines -43% in its third frame with $53.0M, three-peating in first place. ‘Barbie’ Surpasses $1 Billion Globally After 17 Days of Release By Rebecca Rubin August 6, 2023https://variety.com/2023/film/news/barbie-billion-dollar-box-office-1235683570/ Quote Greta Gerwig’s pink-coated fantasy comedy has surpassed $1 billion at the global box office, including $459 million in North America and $572 million internationally. This makes Gerwig the first-ever solo female filmmaker with a billion-dollar film. Three other billion-dollar blockbusters were co-directed by women, including “Frozen” ($1.3 billion) and “Frozen 2” ($1.45 billion) both co-directed by Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck, as well as “Captain Marvel” ($1.1 billion), co-directed by Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck. “Barbie” is hitting the coveted milestone after just 17 days of release, becoming the fastest Warner Bros. release (and eighth in the studio’s 100-year history) to join the $1 billion club. “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2” previously held that record at 19 days. It’s only the second blockbuster this year and the sixth of the pandemic-era to cross $1 billion, following “Spider-Man: No Way Home,” “Top Gun: Maverick,” “Jurassic World Dominion” and “Avatar: The Way of Water.” * * * Thanks to zeitgeist-smashing buzz, “Barbie” has remained No. 1 at the box office for three consecutive weekends — and that’s despite competition from “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem,” “Meg 2: The Trench” and “Oppenheimer.” It’s already the second-highest grossing movie of 2023, behind only Universal and Illumination’s “The Super Mario Bros. Movie,” which earned $574 million domestically and $1.35 billion worldwide. Edited August 7, 2023 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8100201
RealHousewife August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 12 hours ago, Crs97 said: Finally saw it tonight, and maybe it was overhyped? I really enjoyed it, but didn’t cry or question my existence like I’ve seen so many do online. Son told me to grab tissues, but not a hint of a tear. Loved the dancing and Ken’s song and narrator’s note to the filmmakers about the problem with casting Margot to make a point about not being pretty enough. The acting was great across the board, but maybe I’m still too blown away by Oppenheimer to fully appreciate this one. It probably also doesn’t help that I just had my sisters’ old Barbie, and my mother was not a fan of the doll. Haha, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but I don't think I shed any tears and definitely didn't question my existence either. I loved that the movie was both girly and feminist. It was also really entertaining the entire duration of the movie. I can get bored watching a lot of the movies that come out. The acting was great. It was funny. It was eye candy with all the pretty people, scenery, outfits, etc. I haven't watched Oppenheimer yet, but that's on my list! I heard it was incredible. I can see being underwhelmed if you just watched a phenomenal movie. That said, I really did dig Barbie. :) 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8100213
Crs97 August 7, 2023 Share August 7, 2023 I do want to see Barbie again because there was so much happening on screen that I know I missed stuff! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8100265
Brn2bwild August 8, 2023 Share August 8, 2023 Saw this over the weekend and enjoyed it. However, I got angrier at "Kendom" than maybe I was supposed to get - instead of the Kens mounting a protest for equal rights, or something else a bit measured, they just overthrew Barbieland, brainwashed the Barbies, and were planning to change the constitution to cement their coup. In the end, despite not giving them equal rights, it felt like the Barbies went easy on the Kens. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8101575
Spartan Girl August 8, 2023 Share August 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said: Saw this over the weekend and enjoyed it. However, I got angrier at "Kendom" than maybe I was supposed to get - instead of the Kens mounting a protest for equal rights, or something else a bit measured, they just overthrew Barbieland, brainwashed the Barbies, and were planning to change the constitution to cement their coup. In the end, despite not giving them equal rights, it felt like the Barbies went easy on the Kens. The thing is…I don’t think Ken knowingly brainwashed them. He’s not that bright. My understanding is he brought back his childish understanding of the patriarchy to Barbie-Land telling everyone how cool he thought it was and the Barbies fell under its power because their world was sheltered to it and thus they had no immunity. Certainly he and the others are guilty of taking advantage of it and taking over, but yeah. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8101625
oliviabenson August 9, 2023 Share August 9, 2023 I loved this movie so much. My favorite movie this year for sure. I cried when watching toward the end. Losing my mom made me cry at the end scene with Ruth/Margot. I wish I looked like Margo for a week! Ans Kate McKinnon is immensely talented! anyways I’m glad I saw this movie. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8102197
Trini August 10, 2023 Share August 10, 2023 Interview with costume designer Jacqueline Durran at Hollywood Reporter: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/barbie-costume-designer-rule-how-to-do-good-barbiecore-1235559180/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8103215
Trini August 13, 2023 Share August 13, 2023 Slightly technical article at GQ about coloring Barbieland with quotes from the cinematographer, Rodrigo Prieto: 'How Greta Gerwig Recaptured Old Hollywood Technicolor Magic for Barbie' excerpt: Quote Gerwig wanted to recapture this lustrous jewel-tone brilliance for Barbie—but three-strip Technicolor shooting has been impossible since the ‘50s. Enter cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto, who warmly greeted the prospect of a new challenge in a three-decade career that’s previously paired him with Martin Scorsese, Spike Lee, and Alejandro González Iñárritu. “For me, this was a stretch,” he tells GQ from his home in Mexico City. “It’s a total break with everything else I’ve done, which is what I loved about it.” 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8106137
ursula August 14, 2023 Share August 14, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 9:07 AM, Spartan Girl said: I don’t think Ken knowingly brainwashed them. He’s not that bright. Yeah I feel like I missed something. Did the movie ever explain how he magically brainwashed them? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8108138
Spartan Girl August 15, 2023 Share August 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, ursula said: Yeah I feel like I missed something. Did the movie ever explain how he magically brainwashed them? All he said he did was explain to everyone how awesome patriarchy was, and just like that the Barbies were Stepfordized. Basically the reverse effect of Gloria’s speech. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8108230
Guest August 15, 2023 Share August 15, 2023 4 hours ago, ursula said: Yeah I feel like I missed something. Did the movie ever explain how he magically brainwashed them? Gloria had a line comparing it to a disease that a person has no defense against. Which fits with the Barbies believing they had fixed the real world for women because that’s what they were told. There wasn’t a lot of independent thought happening in Barbieland. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8108473
methodwriter85 August 16, 2023 Share August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 10:10 PM, Dani said: Gloria had a line comparing it to a disease that a person has no defense against. Which fits with the Barbies believing they had fixed the real world for women because that’s what they were told. There wasn’t a lot of independent thought happening in Barbieland. Because at the end of the day, the Barbies and Kens are being played by little kids. The reason why Stereotypical Barbie changed was because she was actually being played by an adult. 5 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8109647
Trini August 18, 2023 Share August 18, 2023 This is from a month ago, but I don't think it was posted here; Interview with Simu Liu where he talks a bit auditioning and filming for Barbie, and working with Gosling: https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a44476548/barbie-simu-liu-interview/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8111341
StatisticalOutlier August 18, 2023 Share August 18, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 5:43 PM, kiddo82 said: For me the best part was the Barbies distracting the Ken's. "I've never seen the Godfather before. Can you start it over and talk through the entire thing?" Been. There. I think the concept is funny, but I definitely haven't "been there." And I think that's one reason all the messaging didn't resonate with me. I can't remember whether this came before or after "the speech," but at one point mention was made of pretending you can't do something in order to curry favor with a man (or something like that), and the visual I think was a man doing the classic standing behind a woman showing her how to play golf. (It went by pretty fast.) I thought, "Huhhhhh?" Do women really do that? Pretend they're bad at something so a man will like them? It has never once occurred to me to do that. What's the goal? To get a man to like you who is such a dick he WOULDN'T like you if he knew you were good at [insert ~anything~]? Why would somebody want that? If I found out a man wouldn't like me if he knew I was good at whatever, I would put that in the category of "good information to have about this person" and act accordingly. Maybe this was during the part of how to distract the Kens? If so, it says a lot more about the Kens than it does anybody else, but there has to be something there for this even to be a thing. And then there's the speech. Almost none of it resonated with me, especially the end, where she says, "I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us." That's a pretty broad brush. Am I really the only one who doesn't care a whole lot if Person X likes me or not? We all have preferences, and if I don't meet someone's preferences, I figure that's just how the cookie crumbles, and if anybody is at fault it's not me. And even professionally--I remember one time when I was a secretary at a fancy law firm and one of the lawyers unthinkingly dissed me because of it. I just thought, "What an asshole." Would all other women sink into despair over it? (Ha! I just looked him up and found out that I went to a much better law school than he did (after working as a secretary). Take THAT, Mr. Superior.) Now, I've never had an ambitious career, but instead a series of jobs that never entailed clawing my way up the ladder, which is a luxury when it comes to avoiding many of the issues in the speech. But I'll note that I think the speech does judge women who don't have or want a robust career, by having a lot of it center on being a boss, a career woman, a leader. And something else--at the beginning, she says, "You are so beautiful and so smart, and it kills me that you don’t think you’re good enough." Well, not everyone is beautiful. It's just a fact, and yet we're not supposed to acknowledge it. I understand the impulse to deny it, but as someone who's average looking and accepts being average looking, it comes off as pandering, if not actual bullshit, if not an insulting lie. (Hey--I have a mirror, you know.) And...smart. Not everybody is smart. It's just a fact. Why pretend otherwise? That said, it does bother me when people (both women and men) think they're not good enough because of things they have no control over, like their looks or their intelligence. But can't they be good enough despite the fact they're not beautiful or not smart? So the speech didn't land with me, but I enjoyed the movie. I thought it was clever, and I'm always impressed how writers can tie everything together in a plot like this. Plus it was a lot of fun to look at, and during a dance number by Ryan Gosling, I was struck by how he came off as such a heartthrob it made my heart flutter a little bit. All in all a good time, but that's all. I definitely don't think I deserve those two hours added back to my life. 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8112136
Bookish Jen August 19, 2023 Share August 19, 2023 I saw this movie a little over a week ago at a 3:30pm matinee on a Wednesday afternoon and the theater was packed. I don't have any pink clothing, but I did wear some handmade earrings and a necklace made out of pink beads and some pink/rose colored flats. I was a bit worried that the movie might have been overhyped for me, but I absolutely loved it. I laughed a lot and got misty-eyed at the end. All the performances were splendid and I loved the Barbie Land sets and the costumes, which I hope are remembered come Oscar-time. I am thrilled for this movies success. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8112948
Laura Holt August 19, 2023 Share August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bookish Jen said: I was a bit worried that the movie might have been overhyped for me, but I absolutely loved it. This is me as well. After a few false starts I finally saw the movie and was afraid it couldn't possibly live up to my expectations. Glad to say I was wrong. The theatre I was in was packed and everyone else seemed to be enjoying it as much as I did. One thing that did surprise me was how many men were in the audience. By no means half or anything but still a significant number. Which made me glad. The naysayers keep trying to dismiss this as a chickflick (because of course that's just so insulting 🙄) but if the audience I was in is any indication that's not true. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8112952
tv echo August 21, 2023 Share August 21, 2023 (edited) Blue Beetle Takes Down Barbie With a Not-So-Super $25.4 Million Weekend Box Office Victory BY ADAM BANKHURST AUG 20, 2023https://www.ign.com/articles/blue-beetle-takes-down-barbie-with-a-not-so-super-254-million-weekend-box-office-victory Quote As for Barbie, it continues to excel in its fifth weekend in theaters with $21.5 million in North America and $26.7 million internationally. That accounts for only a 36% drop week-over-week domestically, which shows there are still plenty of people flocking to the theaters to see the Greta Gerwig-directed and Margot Robbie-led film. Worldwide, Barbie is sitting at $1.26 billion. Edited August 21, 2023 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8115099
Trini August 21, 2023 Share August 21, 2023 (edited) "I'm Just Ken" behind-the-scenes: https://www.instagram.com/p/CwNRuCwsy9d/ [ETA:] also on youtube: I continue to be amazed at how Gerwig convinced so many dudes to wax their thighs! Edited August 21, 2023 by Trini 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8115323
Spartan Girl August 21, 2023 Share August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Trini said: "I'm Just Ken" behind-the-scenes: https://www.instagram.com/p/CwNRuCwsy9d/ [ETA:] also on youtube: I continue to be amazed at how Gerwig convinced so many dudes to wax their thighs! Lmao that was so awesome. And I know it’s shallow but I was sitting up straighter when Ryan ripped off his mink to show his shirtless leather vest. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8115372
Ohiopirate02 August 21, 2023 Share August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 4:39 PM, StatisticalOutlier said: I can't remember whether this came before or after "the speech," but at one point mention was made of pretending you can't do something in order to curry favor with a man (or something like that), and the visual I think was a man doing the classic standing behind a woman showing her how to play golf. (It went by pretty fast.) I thought, "Huhhhhh?" Do women really do that? Pretend they're bad at something so a man will like them? It has never once occurred to me to do that. That whole sequence is examples of things men believe they are innately better at than women, and the Barbies using that arrogance/delusion to their advantage. It's not about women pretending they suck at golf, or do not know how to throw a football, or swing a tennis racket or baseball bat. It's about the subset of men who think their maleness makes them better at sports than women. These men do not care how well trained a woman may be in her sport, they are better and know better because they are guys. I've met this type of mansplainer before, the one who thinks I do not know how to throw a football despite having brothers and learned how back in elementary gym class. Or the guy who thinks he could beat Serena Williams in a tennis game. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8115429
Guest August 21, 2023 Share August 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said: That whole sequence is examples of things men believe they are innately better at than women, and the Barbies using that arrogance/delusion to their advantage. It's not about women pretending they suck at golf, or do not know how to throw a football, or swing a tennis racket or baseball bat. It's about the subset of men who think their maleness makes them better at sports than women. These men do not care how well trained a woman may be in her sport, they are better and know better because they are guys. I've met this type of mansplainer before, the one who thinks I do not know how to throw a football despite having brothers and learned how back in elementary gym class. Or the guy who thinks he could beat Serena Williams in a tennis game. Yep. It’s such a cliched move where men try and pickup or impress a woman by teaching her something he just assumes she can’t already know. It’s a huge reason several fitness chains catering primarily to women have opened. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8115461
StatisticalOutlier August 22, 2023 Share August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said: It's not about women pretending they suck at golf, or do not know how to throw a football, or swing a tennis racket or baseball bat. I found a copy of the script that is inaccurate in many places, but it matches what I remember about the golf sequence: "And then you can pretend you're bad at every sport there is." I definitely remember the "pretend" part. So just doing a sport wouldn't be enough for the Kens to step in. As I said upthread: On 8/18/2023 at 3:39 PM, StatisticalOutlier said: Maybe this was during the part of how to distract the Kens? If so, it says a lot more about the Kens than it does anybody else, but there has to be something there for this even to be a thing. It was indeed during the part about how to distract the Kens. I think I was still reeling from the claim that all women tie themselves into knots so people will like them, and still thinking of that during this scene where they were setting bait for the Kens to be distracted. I must have put pretending to be bad at something in the category of yet another thing women do to get people (men) to like them. I'm not sure I was wrong, but the purpose of the scene is to illustrate how to distract the Kens, and not what to do to make them like you, so I got that wrong. However, I don't think it was an oversight to specify pretending to be bad at something be part of the bait. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8116129
kiddo82 August 22, 2023 Share August 22, 2023 (edited) Obviously not all women are going to fit into the same box but it seems as if it's just hard to live life without someone telling you you're doing it wrong. Wear a lot of makeup? Who you trying to impress? Wear no makeup? You'd be prettier if you put some effort in. Assert yourself? Bitch. Quiet demeanor? Push over. Working mom? Selfish. Stay at home mom? Get a life aside from your kid. No emotion? Frigid. Show emotion? Basket case. Locker room humor? Crude. Don't like locker room humor? Killjoy. Etc and etc and etc forever and ever. And above ALL else, avoid the label "try hard" at all costs. Kiss. 'O. Death. I don't necessarily tie myself in knots getting people to like me either but you do reach a point where you're like "enough is enough with this shit." Gloria's speech, as on the nose as it was, still struck a nerve for me. Edited August 22, 2023 by kiddo82 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8116157
Cress August 22, 2023 Share August 22, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 3:39 PM, StatisticalOutlier said: That said, it does bother me when people (both women and men) think they're not good enough because of things they have no control over, like their looks or their intelligence. But can't they be good enough despite the fact they're not beautiful or not smart? I think that's what she meant. And remember "beautiful" doesn't just mean Margot Robbie beautiful. In the movie the old woman at the bus stop was "beautiful" too. Stereotypical Barbie felt she wasn't beautiful anymore just because she stopped being perfect, and she also felt she wasn't smart compared to the physicist barbie and President barbie and astronaut barbie. She was comparing herself to others instead of recognizing her own talents and self-worth independent of anyone else's judgement. Though she wasn't "white savior Barbie" she did help create the plan to un-brainwash the Barbies and trick the Kens into having a war. The speech is about, recognize you're fine being yourself and don't try to fit someone else's ideals. As for tying yourself in knots to get people to like you, I didn't think she meant caring about making one person like you. I thought she meant people in general, as in society criticizing women for contradictory things. How social media keeps tearing people down. Young girls are taught to try to please people and take care of others first before thinking about themselves, so they try to be polite and agreeable even when other people's demands are too much. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8116300
tv echo August 23, 2023 Share August 23, 2023 (edited) The Surprise Winners From Hollywood’s Summer of Toys Ryan Gajewski and Aaron Couch AUGUST 17, 2023 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/barbie-transformers-ninja-turtles-summer-toys-1235566369/amp/ Quote Other surprises linked to Barbie include the increased interest in Ken, whose portrayal by Ryan Gosling has been a fan favorite. “Ken has been outselling Barbie [because of the film], which is pretty interesting to us,” admits Don Kipper, owner of L.A.’s oldest toy store, Kip’s Toyland, who notes that Barbie sales in general have been up dramatically thanks to the movie. “Barbie has been a staple, of course, for many years since the late ’50s. But Ken has not, and Ken has surpassed her after the movie.” Big Budgets, Big Headaches: Why ‘Indiana Jones 5’ and ‘Mission: Impossible 7’ are Struggling to Make a Profit By Rebecca Rubin, Brent Lang, Matt Donnelly Aug 15, 2023https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-mission-impossible-7-box-office-flops-explained-1235690262/ Quote ... Then there’s Greta Gerwig’s “Barbie,” made for a comparatively affordable $145 million, which has provided something fresh with its feminist-fueled look at the popular toy. It stands at $1.18 billion globally and will soon overtake “The Super Mario Bros. Movie” as the highest-grossing release of 2023. “‘Barbie’ was made for under $150 million,” says Bock. “That’s the price point you want to see when you hit $1 billion at the box office.” Warner Bros., which released the film, isn’t the only one profiting from its success. Margot Robbie, who brought Barbie to life on-screen and produced the movie, stands to make at least $50 million in salary and bonuses, according to three insiders. That’s enough to buy one hell of a Malibu DreamHouse. Edited August 23, 2023 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8117310
TigerLily20 August 24, 2023 Share August 24, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 1:59 PM, Trini said: "I'm Just Ken" behind-the-scenes: https://www.instagram.com/p/CwNRuCwsy9d/ [ETA:] also on youtube: I continue to be amazed at how Gerwig convinced so many dudes to wax their thighs! Was that Slash playing in the song?? If so it makes it even better (this is seriously one of my favorite songs now) 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8117830
Trini August 24, 2023 Share August 24, 2023 5 hours ago, TigerLily20 said: Was that Slash playing in the song?? If so it makes it even better (this is seriously one of my favorite songs now) Sure was! ---- Also Barbie is coming for that #1 worldwide title with an IMAX release with extra footage: Quote As Barbie becomes the highest-grossing film of 2023 today at the domestic box office with north of $575M, Warner Bros and Imax said the Greta Gerwig-directed movie is getting a one-week Imax release starting September 22 in North American and select locations around the world. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8118064
Cress August 24, 2023 Share August 24, 2023 I wonder what the extra footage could be? More dancing? Another song? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8118567
choclatechip45 August 30, 2023 Share August 30, 2023 I saw it again. It was fun being able to catch some details of Barbieland I missed the first time. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/129252-barbie-2023/page/6/#findComment-8124884
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