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S13.E09: Could this be love?


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40 minutes ago, rebel2u said:

Or have each one have their own toothpaste and squeeze however they want!   Are they doing that now?  And is each using their own tube of toothpaste? If so, Jose needs to chill out, big time.

Jose should buy one of those plastic keys that you put on the toothpaste tube and roll it as the paste gets used.

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2 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Seriously though, Jose is pissing me off with his whole “I don’t listen” so you have to tell me twice. 
I can’t believe he would be that woman with kids for four years. Thinking only of the kids, if he knows he can never accept them as his kids and doesn’t want to be a parental figure then he should have ditched long ago.

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! Very uncool. Says something about him and how he interacts with & uses people. It appears to be all about what’s in it for JOSE, end of story. 

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1 hour ago, endure said:

These guys are all so confusing they say one thing then totally contradict themselves.  The quiet emotionless guy said earlier he falls in love fast then he says he takes too long?

Ryan probably falls in lust quickly, not love. My heart hurt for Brett. I really like her and think she has the best intentions. She's starting to get those warm and fuzzy feelings towards Ryan but he's just not feeling it. His stony faced affect didn't even change during that Jenga type game. Brett wrote all those nice things that she liked about her husband and he couldn't even crack a smile.  He should just be brutally honest with her and say he's never going to fall in love with her.

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That bee analogy is still sending me....I appreciate what he is trying to do but that was sooooo funny. I wish Ryan showed more emotion while reading the notes. He may not feel sparks yet but he needs to at least engage on the journey. Jose, Please don't ask your wife to say something twice. She said it once, you listen once. That's the way an adult relationship works, saying things twice is for kids and since you like to talk about 'as a man' please act like one. It's really hard to tell if Myrla really likes Gil or not but at least they are civil towards one another. I think brunch every weekend would wear me out. I love me some long mornings to sleep but eating out twice a month for dinner is totally reasonable.

 

Johnny....hmmmm.... Please let Bao paint in peace. Not everything has to be foreplay. I couldn't help but laugh at what he considers to be an argument. 'Ask me stuff' no wait 'don't ask me stuff' . Well which is it? I just feel sorry for Bao. Makes total sense that he learnt sex from hentai though.

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I don't think Mryla likes Gil other than someone to banter  and brunch with.

I think Gil gets it but being a gentleman he'll wait to deliver the thanks but no thanks on decision day.

They could have been great!

24 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Jose should buy one of those plastic keys that you put on the toothpaste tube and roll it as the paste gets used.

So tonight I tried pushing my toothpaste from the bottom.  Taking one for the team!

It flipped and fobbled and hurt my hand.

I'll always be a middle of the tube kind of gal!

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31 minutes ago, ECM1231 said:

Brett wrote all those nice things that she liked about her husband and he couldn't even crack a smile.

Exactly. She’s so sweet & seems so genuine and open and is really in this and Ryan is just cold. He couldn’t even say thanks or I appreciate your nice comments? Or, god forbid, share a few things he likes about her? Contrast that with how Johnny melted when Bao simply said she was lucky to have him as a husband. I really felt bad for Brett when she wandered into the verboten ‘couple comparison’ vortex at the barbecue. 😢

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1 hour ago, flaky said:

Makes total sense that he learnt sex from hentai though

I can tell I PERSONALLY would NOT like his kissing style. Ew. 

just watched Unfiltered - I think Johnny is looking to take Jamie’s hosting gig! He definitely ‘took over’ a few times. 

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23 minutes ago, ChiMama said:

just watched Unfilteted - I think Johnny is looking to take Jamie’s hosting gig! He definitely ‘took over’ a few times. 

That would be a great improvement! I cringe every time I hear her overly cheery “Hey guys!!” opening and the repetitive “gotcha!” responses.

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7 minutes ago, Cancun said:

That would be a great improvement! I cringe every time I hear her overly cheery “Hey guys!!” opening and the repetitive “gotcha!” responses.

And the “don’t go away — you don’t want to miss what’s next!” Before EVERY break. What is this - the 1960s? I think that’s how long that phrase has been around. 

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3 hours ago, pwdrpuff said:

IMO, all the men this season are damaged (except the FireFighter).  That’s why you single bro!  And dude with big boob girl, wants a hot girl, but he ain’t hot at all. Also, that ain’t love after 24hrs with the chicks before. 

There’s our solution! Put the two (seemingly) normal people together — AKA Gil the FireFighter and Brett the big  boob girl — and tell all the rest buh-bye. Actually, I bet they’d be a great couple!

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5 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

Apparently, I'm the only person in the universe who doesn't see the appeal of Goat Yoga. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't like animals, thus having goats crawling all over me is an actual nightmare. 

Even if I liked animals, I wouldn't want them all over me while I was doing a calm and relaxing activity.

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4 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

All of these couples are boring.  None of them are fun.

Disagree on the first sentence. Agree with the second.

There is no consistent/fun couple and they all feel like mismatches.

Myrla just makes me feel like she only appreciates material things and appearances. She needs a brainless himbo she can take out and play with whenever she wants. Gil is trying to be a husband to a brick wall.

I feel like Johnny doesn't even know what he wants. He needed some real therapy before signing up for this. Michela too.

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3 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Unbelievable!  Truth be told, I don't think anyone should be giving relationship advice, because none of them has an ideal situation.  

Anyone can give relationship advice. Most relationship advice are obvious things that are hard to see when you are in said relationship. 

Also, there is nothing wrong with Gil giving advice specifically. Other than joking a bit too much, he isn't doing anything wrong. Neither is Brett. He's very level headed in general seems like he would give good advice. Him and Brett are stuck in matches that are doomed to fail.

Amazing, by the way, how much a dudes attraction is related to whether or not he has a bald head. We all have our preferences but damn. I don't like short hair on women. But, it's how you rock it. I wouldn't dismiss someone for it. He wears it well from I see.

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It seems like Ryan is used to being successful in the way that any decent looking white man with a bit of money can be. He’s set and cleared modest goals and is not used to struggling. Watching him struggle to feel successfully about Brett reminds me a little of Derek Zoolander being told the files are “inside the computer.” Maybe if smash, can find?

I still get disoriented whenever Zach and Michaela have a segment. Them? U sure, Lifetime?

Johnny drives me nuts with his over-thinking and flipping to hostile at warp speed over… like… WTF is he even flipping out about. I start to feel bad for Bao, and then she goes and does that asshole baby awkward sex toddler act in her selfie video while Johnny pretends to sleep next to her, and I’m like “Oh right. Her.” She has three modes: 1. Fine 2. Militant snob 3. Sexy Asian babydoll.

Myrla is an agent of chaos.

I don’t consider it homophobic to suggest that José is gay on account of how he is almost certainly homosexual. Nothing wrong with being gay, but you do lose a few points for marrying a female stranger and immediately trying to sabotage the relationship with your special house blend of love-bombing, nitpicking, and financial tyranny. 

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7 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I agree with Jose about the toothpaste.  Squeeze from the bottom!

Those goats are cute.

So I just conducted an experiment with my normal-sized tube of toothpaste. Squeezing from the middle seems more natural. 

Jose' has a thing about teeth-brushing, does he not?

What would it take for Ryan to really laugh? He impresses me as being mind-numbingly dull.  

Gil should have requested that Myrla put away her phone, unless his intentions weren't actually  romantic. But I thought they were, given his "magic hands." 

I find Johnny now ickier than ever. 

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2 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

What would it take for Ryan to really laugh? He impresses me as being mind-numbingly dull.  

I was reminded of a scene in Everybody Loves Raymond when Amy tells Raymond that he checks out of conversations because he has nothing important to say.  Ryan's perma-deadpan may be hiding mediocrity. I really hope it's the editing because how could you not be flattered by that Jenga game?  It's like he wants Brett to do the work of both people in this marriage. You don't have to connect as soulmates in order to say thank you and return a few compliments.

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9 hours ago, endure said:

I think Zach is WAY too intense and totally out of control and I think she was clueless to how strange he can be

Something about the way he talks really bugs me. He sounds like a 5 year old when he speaks and he is not articulate at all. All nervous and twitchy. He keeps looking around and not directly at who he is talking to. He is just as weird as Michaela. I did have to laugh when she was looking at him like WTF is he saying?

Gil, honey, going out to dinner twice a month and brunch one weekend day per week is not much to ask.  Ease up, buddy. I think he complains too much. 

Omg Stone face Ryan. Could he be any more boring? Not sure what Brett sees in him. She's cute and sweet and is trying with him. He gives nothing in return. Maybe he prefers cold, distant bitches.  

Johnny and Bao had sex. And they are very, very happy about it.  Good grief. 

Jose, just stop talking. He is an annoying little shit. 

I'm liking the ladies a lot more than the men this season. 

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Fuhgeddabout Zack and Michaela. She will always be trying to act sweet, and he will always know what lies beneath. 

Maybe Johnny shouldn't have expected Bao not to take the painting seriously. But then, I was just like her when I went to one of those "Paint and Drink" places. 

At this point, Myrla could say, "Let's go to the park. No entrance fee." And Gil would be like, "Gasoline ain't free! How many times a month do you need to leave the apartment?!"

 

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5 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Anyone can give relationship advice. Most relationship advice are obvious things that are hard to see when you are in said relationship. 

Also, there is nothing wrong with Gil giving advice specifically. Other than joking a bit too much, he isn't doing anything wrong. Neither is Brett. He's very level headed in general seems like he would give good advice. Him and Brett are stuck in matches that are doomed to fail.

Amazing, by the way, how much a dudes attraction is related to whether or not he has a bald head. We all have our preferences but damn. I don't like short hair on women. But, it's how you rock it. I wouldn't dismiss someone for it. He wears it well from I see.

Re: Hair. Why would a man's Baldness and Attractiveness Factor be "amazing," when you acknowledge  your own hairstyle preference for women?! IMO, Gil wears his baldness "well" only because he has a cute face and nice smile. If Myrla still wants to "dismiss" Gil on this score, it is her prerogative. 

Next week looks extra-dramatic! 

 

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8 hours ago, Cancun said:

Jose got all wound up about Rachel’s infidelity with a prior boyfriend, but he stayed with a woman (and her kids) for four years when he wasn’t in love and knew it wasn’t going to end in marriage. Seems like Jose was cheating the woman he was with out of an authentic relationship, wasting her time. I’m sure he can’t see that infidelity and leading someone on are both forms of trust breaking, dishonest behavior. Jose, be careful getting off your high horse!

One Hundred Percent!!!

Rachel cheating in a prior relationship is not a big deal, how was she?  Isn't that part of learning about relationships and how to have them?  If you are 19 or 20 (high school or college age) is a time of exploring your options, I'd be shocked if someone didn't stray back then.  

Jose telling her that he was with a woman for four years but not crazy about her having children, WTF, that is something you find out on a first date, why did he continue any kind of relationship if he did not want other peoples kids in his relationship?

I think Jose has not explored all of his options because of him being such the G-d fearing Christian, he may never be happy trying to appease TPTB in his mind.  Jose will forever project his unhappiness on to Rachel.

 

8 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

A binder clip also would work, since Jose is super thrifty...

I have to laugh and and ask you if you have been in my bathroom, my husband has engaged the binder clip, it makes him so happy, lol.  I wait until I cannot stand the stubby tube of toothpaste and just open another tube.  

 

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I just don’t see Jose in the same light as some of you do.  I think he likes women.  He’s nerdy and I think he’s got OCD, anxiety, and is a control freak. Those things probably help in his job as a NASA mission specialist. They don’t help in the relationship world.  He wants to control every aspect of his life, and therefore, Rachel’s, in order to feel comfortable in his own skin.   He’s not doing it to be a knuckle dragger, but he’s still doing it all the same.  

Gil- I hate to tell you this Gil, but many of us go out to breakfast once a week.  We also eat lunch  and dinner out weekly.  Granted, it’s not at a place that names  their drinks after expensive perfumes and has prices to match. I concede your point on that aspect of it 

Gil could have  voiced his concerns in a nicer quieter tone about Myrla just wanting a warm body to be out and about with. However, I think he was totally on point in regards to the his concerns. She does not care who sits across from her as long as they are dressed nicely and know which fork to use.

Myrla- get a clue.  People do not enjoy a restaurant because they have pretty drinks.  Drinks  don’t have to have a catchy name to be good. People can live outside of your preferred patch of land and still have  a nice life.  That comment about never coming back to Jose’s because ‘it is in the middle of nowhere’ and turning up your nose at being invited to a BBQ was rude. 


 

 

 

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I wish Brett would take a page from Michaela's book pkup and leave.      I was rooting for them to make it they reminded me of Jamie/Beth polar opposite, but manage to make it work.  Take Baxter and leave.   He's always describing her as a fun girl to hangout with, Dude! she's your wife not your bro.    Can never muster up anything genuine to say something nice about her.    I was really pissed last week how he was saying to Johnny/Gil how he felt the same way.   Gil mention if he knew of and heard about Myrla he'd never talk to her, and Johnny when he said Bao personality.      Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live 

 

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8 hours ago, Cancun said:

Jose got all wound up about Rachel’s infidelity with a prior boyfriend, but he stayed with a woman (and her kids) for four years when he wasn’t in love and knew it wasn’t going to end in marriage. Seems like Jose was cheating the woman he was with out of an authentic relationship, wasting her time. I’m sure he can’t see that infidelity and leading someone on are both forms of trust breaking, dishonest behavior. Jose, be careful getting off your high horse!

I bet that ex hates him. Four years and he didn’t love her or her kids? I’m sure the kids had some connection to him after four years. Ugh. I’d have a harder time getting over that than the one-night stand Rachel had.

I don’t see the point of goat yoga. I just don’t get it. I love yoga but why yoga with animals and why goats specifically? No thanks. I know it’s a thing; I just don’t understand why and I wouldn’t do it.

I was warming up to Myrla but her “I don’t go to barbecues and I won’t be coming back to this house in the middle of nowhere” with a self-satisfied smirk was so rude it put me off her again. Jesus. Rachel is hoping that they’ll all be couple friends; I bet she was stung when she saw that.

I feel bad for Brett. Ryan’s just not into her and I suspect he won’t be. She’s going to get hurt. (I like the Kool-Aid red on her but she’s overdue for a touch-up. Her brown roots were distracting.)

Michaela saying that she freaks out because Zach makes her mad is a hallmark abusive line. “Well, if you didn’t make me so mad, I wouldn’t have to …” HUGE red flag.

I assume that when Zach said he and Michaela made up, he meant “had sex.”

6 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Amazing, by the way, how much a dudes attraction is related to whether or not he has a bald head. We all have our preferences but damn. I don't like short hair on women. But, it's how you rock it. I wouldn't dismiss someone for it. He wears it well from I see.

 He does. He also has a great smile. Some men look better bald - Taye Diggs is one, IMO. Also most men lose at least some hair eventually so ruling that out is pretty narrow-minded, IMO. (I used to tease my dad that he was lucky he kept his hair - he never lost it and he didn’t really even go gray until his 60s, and his hair was still more black than gray when he died - because he didn’t have the head shape to support a bald head.)

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So much gross behavior in this episode it’s hard to know where to start.

Johnny has really, really let me down.  He is constantly judging Bao’s emotions.  You can see the wheels turning in his head while he searches for something about her to be negative about.  Not cool.

It’s hard to believe Myrla is the introvert she says she is when she is all about going out to hip, busy restaurants where she will be surrounded by people.  I like that she is confident in who she is, but wish she would recognize that she can be very nasty and change that.  The shade about Jose’s house in the suburbs was so rude and uncalled for.

Speaking of Jose, what a cruel chucklef*ck for dating a woman with 4 kids when he had no serious intentions.  I can’t imagine how devastated she and her kids were when it ended.  He should’ve broken it off or friend-zoned her within 2 weeks. Think it says a lot about his inability to love others since he couldn’t because they weren’t his biological kids.  Run Rachel, run!!

I’m confused about Brett and Ryan.  Thought he previously said that while she wasn’t his type he was attracted to her.  They seem to get along well and both have said how easy the conversation flows between them.  Now there is no spark?  Did we miss something or is this all on Ryan having the emotional ability of a gnat?

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1 hour ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Re: Hair. Why would a man's Baldness and Attractiveness Factor be "amazing," when you acknowledge  your own hairstyle preference for women?! IMO, Gil wears his baldness "well" only because he has a cute face and nice smile. If Myrla still wants to "dismiss" Gil on this score, it is her prerogative. 

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It's amazing because men have to or decide go bald all the time. It's a much more natural thing. I didn't think it would be such a target of discussion is all. Especially, in terms of it being reason Myrla Also, want him. I know she said she didn't want it. In a situation like this, I would expect someone to not eliminate a person over something so simple. 

Also, as I said, I have a preference. It's not a deal breaker. I wouldn't choose to not date someone over having short hair alone. For me, thats a trivial preference that I can look past with a great woman.

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6 hours ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

I start to feel bad for Bao, and then she goes and does that asshole baby awkward sex toddler act in her selfie video while Johnny pretends to sleep next to her

What was that? That was so weird to me - huge turn-off.

52 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

It’s hard to believe Myrla is the introvert she says she is when she is all about going out to hip, busy restaurants where she will be surrounded by people.

You can be an introvert and enjoy being around people. I’m introverted and love going to restaurants, movies, festivals, etc. (or did, pre-COVID). I love living in cities - in fact, rural living makes me nervous. However, I recharge by being alone. I need some alone time in order to feel rested and rejuvenated. 

With Myrla, I think the issue is that she doesn’t see barbecues as classy or whatever and she’d rather be somewhere trendy, and her activities are dictated by trends. Going to brunch and out to eat is great, but if one of the friends she had in her wedding had a barbecue, she really wouldn’t go? That’s the issue.

I thought the plastic ring thing Gil got her was very sweet, but I love stuff like that - if you see a need and fill it, or solve a problem you’ve noticed I have, I love that. 

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8 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Amazing, by the way, how much a dudes attraction is related to whether or not he has a bald head. We all have our preferences but damn. I don't like short hair on women. But, it's how you rock it. I wouldn't dismiss someone for it. He wears it well from I see.

You said it right there.

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Unpopular opinions:

1. I think Ryan checked out when he saw Brett's red hair. And I don't blame him. I don't go for crazy hair colors either. Also, her voice grates me, just really... unfeminine (die mad about it ya'll- but it is not attractive to me personally). He seems pretty conservative, and no matter how "big boobed, charming, funny etc. Brett is, she just isn't his type. I would love to friend her, she seems super sweet- but I could see her not being his cup of tea before they even met. I think Ryan is being pretty respectful about his feelings though, unlike a lot of past grooms. Is he boring? Who knows, could just be an edit, but they are a clear mismatch. He does not want a liberal, bright red haired wife. End of. 

2. Everyone keeps saying Ryan wants a "dumb trophy wife", but imo- I think that is Johnny. He just wants a cutie to dote on him and ask him about HIS feelings and perform anime sex. To his credit, even though he is an ass- Bao would work my nerves as well. But she is really adorable and in touch with her emotions, a wonderful quality. They bring out the worst in each other.

3. Everyone who is falling in love with "Queen Myrla" can go suck an egg. She is rude, dismissive, an elitist, emotionally distant, snobbish, and frankly- she's MAYBE a solid 5 (because of her tight lil body only). If a dude on here said or did HALF the things she has- he'd be an ass, not a "Queen". Gil was right- she just wants a warm body across the restaurant table. Gil take a cue from an old Eagle's song "Already Gone"- dude leaves girl- then she has to eat her lunch all by herself. Myrla, if you are THAT skittish about a peck on the lips- don't sign up for this show. Imo Gil is a catch. Not perfect, but definitely more relationship material than any other cast member. And they way his little eyes sparkle is the cutest thing- very nice man and seems like a genuine good guy all around. They have different values- horrible match. 

4. Jose is over the top in his 'masculine' mannerisms and even speech patterns. Dude, just explore same sex relationships. You're gay. Probably be much more likable if he just came out. There is some repressed anger boiling under his surface. 

5. Zaack is not attracted to Mickaela. Neither is ready for a relationship. Both need way too much therapy. He has already put her in the "angry black woman" box in his head and there she will stay. They should get VERY interesting. 

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13 hours ago, Suzy Rhapsody said:

Uh, Myrla, that big, husky man fights fires all day and is rubbing your feet right now with his big, husky hands.  Let him eat his chocolate chip cookies in peace. 

Thank you.  Nobody knows what they do.  They also pay for their food everyday to cook, besides getting burned and saving lives.  She is spoiled and a brat.  Wants to go to a fancy restaurant twice a month and brunch every Sunday.  Not on his salary.  I don’t even know why he’s on this show.  Maybe on a dare from his buddies.  I hope he dumps her and finds someone who appreciates him.  She doesn’t.  I can’t see her stuck in the house with a baby.  She won’t come first anymore.

 

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6 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Thank you.  Nobody knows what they do.  They also pay for their food everyday to cook, besides getting burned and saving lives.  She is spoiled and a brat.  Wants to go to a fancy restaurant twice a month and brunch every Sunday.  Not on his salary.  I don’t even know why he’s on this show.  Maybe on a dare from his buddies.  I hope he dumps her and finds someone who appreciates him.  She doesn’t.  I can’t see her stuck in the house with a baby.  She won’t come first anymore.

 

It may at least partially be because of his job that he is on the show. It's probably hard for him, in regards of free time, to date.

I know, as a courier, I don't even know when I would have time date even if I wanted to. From 11 am to around 12 am the same night I'm working from Monday to Friday. I'm burned out at the end of the week. I think that possibly is why the whole go out to eat/brunch thing doesn't appeal to him. Beyond the money. I'm sure he's not highly interested in getting ready and going out to eat instead of resting and being comfortable at home.

Jose pulled the wrong card. Every season a guy is perceived as gay. Probably, at a certain point, it may make sense to just agree that straight men don't all carry themselves the same way. Doesn't mean they are gay.

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16 minutes ago, Cammi said:

Gil take a cue from an old Eagle's song "Already Gone"- dude leaves girl- then she has to eat her lunch all by herself.

I love the Eagles (eff you, Lebowski!), and I love that song! 😁

18 minutes ago, Cammi said:

5. Zaack is not attracted to Mickaela. Neither is ready for a relationship. Both need way too much therapy. He has already put her in the "angry black woman" box in his head and there she will stay. They should get VERY interesting. 

I agree that neither is ready for a relationship.  I think Zack is too young and intense, and I got the impression that he felt he should be married because one of his brothers is.  Michaela needs some kind of therapy.

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11 hours ago, flaky said:

That bee analogy is still sending me....I appreciate what he is trying to do but that was sooooo funny. I wish Ryan showed more emotion while reading the notes. He may not feel sparks yet but he needs to at least engage on the journey. Jose, Please don't ask your wife to say something twice. She said it once, you listen once. That's the way an adult relationship works, saying things twice is for kids and since you like to talk about 'as a man' please act like one. It's really hard to tell if Myrla really likes Gil or not but at least they are civil towards one another. I think brunch every weekend would wear me out. I love me some long mornings to sleep but eating out twice a month for dinner is totally reasonable.

 

Johnny....hmmmm.... Please let Bao paint in peace. Not everything has to be foreplay. I couldn't help but laugh at what he considers to be an argument. 'Ask me stuff' no wait 'don't ask me stuff' . Well which is it? I just feel sorry for Bao. Makes total sense that he learnt sex from hentai though.

Johnny’s hi’s and lows are getting very annoying.  Tough up and be a man already.  He’s a wuss.

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on account of how he is almost certainly homosexual

I don't really like Jose but I'm bothered by everyone's certainty that he is gay. He presents himself as heterosexual. He married a woman and has said he is attracted there and has had sex with her. He presents as heterosexual. It feels disrespectful to insist that he is a closeted homosexual because of some dated stereotypes about how gay men are. 

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Speaking of Jose, what a cruel chucklef*ck for dating a woman with 4 kids when he had no serious intentions.  I can’t imagine how devastated she and her kids where when it ended.  He should’ve broken it off or friend-zoned her within 2 weeks. Think it says a lot about his inability to love others since he couldn’t because they weren’t his biological kids.  Run Rachel, run!!

It's possible, even after four years, that Jose didn't have much contact with the kids and they weren't really attached to him. I didn't love that he stayed in a relationship for four years with a woman he didn't love (who had kids that he didn't love either) but I fault the woman as much as Jose, maybe moreso. She is the one who is supposed to be looking out for her children and making sure that people don't sort of swan in and out of their lives willy nilly.

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With Myrla, I think the issue is that she doesn’t see barbecues as classy or whatever and she’d rather be somewhere trendy, and her activities are dictated by trends.

She said she is introverted (which I believe) and that's why she doesn't go to barbecues, which are often bigger events. I didn't like that she said she wouldn't go to Jose's house again because it was too far away; that seemed rude. But I can see where she prefers brunch with a friend or two over a bigger party. 

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20 minutes ago, Racj82 said:

It may at least partially be because of his job that he is on the show. It's probably hard for him, in regards of free time, to date.

I know, as a courier, I don't even know when I would have time date even if I wanted to. From 11 am to around 12 am the same night I'm working from Monday to Friday. I'm burned out at the end of the week. I think that possibly is why the whole go out to eat/brunch thing doesn't appeal to him. Beyond the money. I'm sure he's not highly interested in getting ready and going out to eat instead of resting and being comfortable at home.

Jose pulled the wrong card. Every season a guy is perceived as gay. Probably, at a certain point, it may make sense to just agree that straight men don't all carry themselves the same way. Doesn't mean they are gay.

 

20 minutes ago, Racj82 said:

It may at least partially be because of his job that he is on the show. It's probably hard for him, in regards of free time, to date.

I know, as a courier, I don't even know when I would have time date even if I wanted to. From 11 am to around 12 am the same night I'm working from Monday to Friday. I'm burned out at the end of the week. I think that possibly is why the whole go out to eat/brunch thing doesn't appeal to him. Beyond the money. I'm sure he's not highly interested in getting ready and going out to eat instead of resting and being comfortable at home.

Jose pulled the wrong card. Every season a guy is perceived as gay. Probably, at a certain point, it may make sense to just agree that straight men don't all carry themselves the same way. Doesn't mean they are gay.

Tell me about it.  My kid worked UPS for 13 yrs.  killed his back, plus he had no life, even tho married.  Before a holiday, he would come to dinner at 10 p.m. from working from 7 am.

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On Unfiltered, did anyone notice Rachel and Myrla were sitting with their dresses down to their knees and legs crossed in front, like ladies?  Guess Jamie wanted to be the only one who had her legs crossed and skirt way up her thighs.  She had to be the only sexy one.

When they all got the letter, Myrla wanted her name to be first, not Gils.  WTF ?

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1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

You said it right there.

Speaking of hair, especially on Mylar and those on Cam Con, why do these girls have straight hair parted in the middle hanging all the way down straight?  No curls, just straight.  Not a good look.  Imo.

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25 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

It's possible, even after four years, that Jose didn't have much contact with the kids and they weren't really attached to him. I didn't love that he stayed in a relationship for four years with a woman he didn't love (who had kids that he didn't love either) but I fault the woman as much as Jose, maybe moreso. She is the one who is supposed to be looking out for her children and making sure that people don't sort of swan in and out of their lives willy nilly.

Jose might have been helping out financially even though he knew he wasn't in love with the woman or her kids.  Four years might have been a long time, but like you said, it was also up to the woman to look out for her kids. 

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17 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

It's possible, even after four years, that Jose didn't have much contact with the kids and they weren't really attached to him. I didn't love that he stayed in a relationship for four years with a woman he didn't love (who had kids that he didn't love either) but I fault the woman as much as Jose, maybe moreso. She is the one who is supposed to be looking out for her children and making sure that people don't sort of swan in and out of their lives willy nilly.

I am 💯% in agreement. If a mother is dating, she should not be allowing her boyfriend to spend time with her kids unless and until there is an engagement ring on her finger. It’s not fair to the kids. I wonder if she ever asked Jose how he felt toward her kids or if she thought he’d decide to embrace the idea of stepkids over time. That being said, if having an instant family was a deal breaker, he should have stated that up front.

I bet Myrla spouts the inclusion/tolerance/embrace diversity mantra in her job, but is clearly a snob who looks down at the people who remind her of her upbringing. She and Gil both know that there is no chemistry and no future for them, so they play their roles just to up the entertainment factor. She’s a caricature of herself and he’s going to have a huge female fan club after the eight weeks are over.

Jose, if you find Rachel’s toothpaste tube usage so objectionable, go to CVS and buy her the same brand that comes in the standup tube that doesn’t crinkle. Problem solved.

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38 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't really like Jose but I'm bothered by everyone's certainty that he is gay. He presents himself as heterosexual. He married a woman and has said he is attracted there and has had sex with her. He presents as heterosexual. It feels disrespectful to insist that he is a closeted homosexual because of some dated stereotypes about how gay men are. 

It's possible, even after four years, that Jose didn't have much contact with the kids and they weren't really attached to him. I didn't love that he stayed in a relationship for four years with a woman he didn't love (who had kids that he didn't love either) but I fault the woman as much as Jose, maybe moreso. She is the one who is supposed to be looking out for her children and making sure that people don't sort of swan in and out of their lives willy nilly.

She said she is introverted (which I believe) and that's why she doesn't go to barbecues, which are often bigger events. I didn't like that she said she wouldn't go to Jose's house again because it was too far away; that seemed rude. But I can see where she prefers brunch with a friend or two over a bigger party. 

This wasn't even a real a cookout. It was a small gathering of friends. It wasn't a full blown event.

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Tell me about it.  My kid worked UPS for 13 yrs.  killed his back, plus he had no life, even tho married.  Before a holiday, he would come to dinner at 10 p.m. from working from 7 am.

It's why I understand how many people end on this show. Once you get the point where you are working a lot and time is less on your side, why try to do something that bypasses all the dating nonsense. The only problem is these experts play fast and loose with the match ups.

Like, ignoring anything I said about bald heads, if that is Myrla's preference, choose someone in that range. Give these people the best chance of succeeding. I know this is a tv show first but we can get entertainment out of couples that at least make sense. 

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28 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

 

When they all got the letter, Myrla wanted her name to be first, not Gils.  WTF ?

Also, when Gil said to the hand-held camera, "Welcome to the Guero-Feria house", she had to chime in, "Feria-Guero".   I'm all for keeping your name when you wed, hyphenating, whatever, but she seems to be in some strange competition to be "first" in their relationship.  

Also, Myrla, STFU about his love of chocolate chip cookies!  He's a firefighter and probably works out at the station in between calls.  If he loves choc chip cookies, just let him be!  Holy hell.

I can't stand her.  These are just two of the number of ways she annoyed me last night.  

25 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Speaking of hair, especially on Mylar and those on Cam Con, why do these girls have straight hair parted in the middle hanging all the way down straight?  No curls, just straight.  Not a good look.  Imo.

It's been a popular style for years, and imo is usually unflattering.  My young adult daughter used to wear hers that way and finally realized other styles looked better on her. 

Add to it, that Myrla's always looks like she hasn't washed it in two weeks.

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