S12.E13: Unanswered Questions

[tventhusiast1]

Per this link, which has a direct quote,  Brianna went to the University of Mississippi and has a bachelor of science in civil engineering. Let’s try not to spread misinformation and make conclusions based off hearsay. 
heavy.com/entertainment/vincent-briana-mafs-season-2021-atlanta/amp/

 

[Ilovepie]

On 4/9/2021 at 12:24 PM, bichonblitz said:

She is a nurse practitioner and made close to $100,000. She didn't want kids, wanted to go to expensive dinners often and wanted to travel extensively so that would be a no go for Erik. I think he would be better suited to Clara. Flight attendant, loves to be in love, would have kids with him sooner than later. Much better match. 

 Clara might be better for Erik, but I don’t think Erik would be better for Clara - she wanted someone “ethnically ambiguous”, and that is definitely not Erik. He might be the WASPiest participant in the history of this show. 

[Gator Stud]

On 4/7/2021 at 11:09 PM, endure said:

I didn’t appreciate Pastor Cal throwing the fact that Chris has been engaged twice before in his face, if he had done a half assed job he would have been aware of that before he matched him up with Paige.  I’m so glad he didn’t end up knocking her up, then he would have a possible ugly baby to deal with too.

To be fair to Cal, he was against Chris coming on this show, but was overruled by Pepper.  Pepper is responsible for this mess.  Paige has responsibility as well.  Did you see the way her hair looked.  If you are gonna come on this show, you should visit a stylist first, and bring your best. Anthony's wife from Chicago didnt have the perfect body, but she maximized her assets and brought her best. Mindy brought shitty sweatpants and expected Zack to be attractive to that.  Why doesnt everybody bring their best?

[Gator Stud]

On 4/8/2021 at 6:52 AM, LakeGal said:

Erik has said that he realizes he has to work on his delivery when he watches himself.  I think it is good that he has realized this.  Virginia does seem to bring out the worst in Erik.  I don't know too many husbands that would be happy to have a wife that thinks drinking with her male friends is more important than spending the weekend with their husband.

I think it would have benefitted the couples if after they saw the experts they had switched and then talked with the one that just talked to their partner.  Dr Pepper tells Erik to talk to Virginia about her drinking.  But it might have been more helpful if Dr Pepper told Virginia what is expected of a wife instead of telling Erik this.  The same with other couples.  Why do Ryan and Clara keeps saying their marriage is a 10 when Clara is miserable and Ryan is avoiding the fact.

When Eric talks to VA, he always looks like he wants to explode.  He was grinding his fist into his palm one time.  Does he want to hit her?  Eric has every right to expect his wife to spend time with him and not rage out on alcohol with his friends.  VA is not a bad person, but clearly has alcohol problems.  Eric has every right to try to help her with that. Eric should continue to try to get VA to at least slow down her drinking. Its not Eric's dog,; its VA's.  If a woman I started dating started getting on my cats, she would be gone and I would move on to the next girlfriend.  I would never give up my cats for a woman. 

[Gator Stud]

On 4/8/2021 at 6:53 AM, cinsays said:

I agree with you and she continues to say that sex is just an activity, not related to emotional connection, so that is pretty off-putting if you view it as a special union.

And her telling him upfront that she falls in love all the time makes him want to see if she really does like him or it's just something she admits she does without a lot of basis.

I think he's being criticized for just being cautious.  It's been a few weeks, not months, give it a chance without the cameras to see how things go.

Except for the fact that apparently, Clara is the BJ queen for Ryan.  Thats not be cautious, that is being an asshole.  If Ryan didnt get BJs from Clara, that would be a different story.

[Hangin Out]

On 4/8/2021 at 9:56 AM, LakeGal said:

Brianna is bossy.  I keep remembering that.  She tells Vinny how to compromise.  But I don't see her doing it.  She wants him so go to bed and wake up when she wants.  She is the one that wants him to go to bed early but he can't watch TV or his phone in bed.  What was she compromising?

Ha.  I can see already where this marriage is going.  Down the tubes.  If he wants to sleep, leave him alone.  That’s his prerogative.  This is only the beginning.  She is controlling.  He’s not going to like her rules.  He should be comfortable in his own home.

[Empress1]

2 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

Mindy brought shitty sweatpants and expected Zack to be attractive to that.  Why doesnt everybody bring their best?

Zach told Mindy he wasn’t attracted to her at their wedding. If he wasn’t attracted to her when she was in a wedding gown with professionally done hair and makeup, he was never going to be. She also dressed up for dinners on their honeymoon, during which he told her he wasn’t attracted to her.

Chris told Paige’s friends on their wedding day that he wasn’t attracted to her. Again: wedding gown, full makeup. That wig she wore in this episode’s talking head was ugly but for all we know, Chris has never seen it. she wasn’t wearing it on their wedding day, when he made up his mind that he didn’t like her looks. He told her the day after their wedding that having sex with her caused him to panic - basically “I’m so not attracted to you that it freaked me out.”

If someone was nasty enough to tell me he wasn’t attracted to me literally minutes after marrying me, I wouldn’t make much of an effort either. Both Mindy and Paige put in more effort than their husbands deserved, frankly. It’s not their fault that their husbands weren’t attracted to them. It’s their husbands’ fault that they chose to be such assholes about it.

Edited April 11, 2021 by Empress1

[Racj82]

3 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

To be fair to Cal, he was against Chris coming on this show, but was overruled by Pepper.  Pepper is responsible for this mess.  Paige has responsibility as well.  Did you see the way her hair looked.  If you are gonna come on this show, you should visit a stylist first, and bring your best. Anthony's wife from Chicago didnt have the perfect body, but she maximized her assets and brought her best. Mindy brought shitty sweatpants and expected Zack to be attractive to that.  Why doesnt everybody bring their best?

Not everyone lives their life to impress others. Mindy dressed comfortably. I never understood why this was ever a big deal. If you aren't attracted to someone at their most normal, you just aren't actually attracted to them. 

I think Paige THOUGHT she was killing it with her look. She needs better friends.

1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

Ha.  I can see already where this marriage is going.  Down the tubes.  If he wants to sleep, leave him alone.  That’s his prerogative.  This is only the beginning.  She is controlling.  He’s not going to like her rules.  He should be comfortable in his own home.

I've really that messing with my sleep is truly a deal breaker. Don't mess with my sleep. 

I would never be an early riser at this point. I start work at 12 pm. I'm done with work between 11 to 11:30 pm. I don't wake up until like 9 am. I'm not waking up earlier to appease you. I also dont get down with that no TV in the bedroom thing. I like to relaxant watch some TV until I feel sleepy. I often put the TV real low on volume and drift off. Set it on a timer. I don't like forcing sleep because of an arbitrary time.

This is actually a real marriage problem. A lot of people are not 9 to 5 workers anymore. Some spouses sleep in different beds because of it. In order to not disrupt each others sleep.

[gonecrackers]

I've dissed wedding gowns as sometimes they just don't fit the person or aren't fitted correctly, but, in the women's defense reg. their wedding looks - they have limited time & choices are few. It's very difficult to get a wedding gown that suits the bride in both taste/style & fit in two weeks. I'm also getting the feeling the show either sets them up with hair/makeup or they again have limited time to find someone available who 'gets' them & can do a look they're comfortable with. Both Paige & Clara said they were not comfortable, that they wanted to look their best, but didn't feel like themselves. Paige mentioned limited time/choices with dresses & Clara had a pre-wedding meltdown, explaining on Unfiltered how uncomfortable she was with her look. I can't blame her either as she's just about to get married to someone who does not know her - this is the first impression for their stranger husbands & some of these bride's aren't even comfortable with themselves. They just have to hope, I guess, that the dude won't be a dick & write them off from the first look.

[crazychicken]

On 4/10/2021 at 6:04 AM, StatisticalOutlier said:

I would think it is someone's income--the individual numbers in the budget add up to the money going out, which should be the same as the money coming in.  I still can't figure out what the $89,130 is, since it has no relation to the budget.

And I was assuming that as an engineer, Briana alone could be pulling down over $100,000/year, but...

This is interesting.  From what I could find out on the internet, her job title is "information assurance engineer," and she doesn't have a degree in engineering (like civil engineering, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering).  If I'm looking at the right person, she has a B.S. in Cybersecurity and Information Assurance from an online university, and as recently as five years ago had a job leasing apartments, and as recently as two years ago was a "help desk analyst." 

I'm not knocking any of this, but I do now think I was completely wrong about thinking the $109,000 could be her take-home pay alone, and think it's the total take-home Briana and Vinny (and still have no clue know what the $89,000 is).

And I think it's completely wrong for someone without an engineering degree to be described as an "engineer" regardless of job title, and really hope it's just the show doing this.

 

Late to the party and I can not answer for Briana but my son will be a Information Assurance Engineer to use that title he needs to work within the cyber security industry for 2 years but officially his degree is Bachelor of Software Engineering (honours) however there are some people that have an associates degree that he works with but their official title is Information Assurance Analyst. So if Briana has a 2 year degree she would be an analyst and need more job experience if she has a 4 year degree she can be an Engineer after 2 years experience. Just to confuse the issue further their is also people with a Bachelor of Cyber Security (3 year degree) and they are officially Information Assurance Specialist.

 

So in summary from my knowledge she can only use the Engineer title if she has an engineering degree. The way he breaks it down is the analyst monitor the systems, the specialists apply the systems (software) and the engineers design the systems (hardware and software).

[humbleopinion]

15 minutes ago, crazychicken said:

So in summary from my knowledge she can only use the Engineer title if she has an engineering degree. The way he breaks it down is the analyst monitor the systems, the specialists apply the systems (software) and the engineers design the systems (hardware and software).

There is no mention of a degree from any college in Bri's bio but lists her numerous certifications and jobs she has held.

 Most likely producer shenannies pumped up her title as they are wont to do like Keith's actual job as a dialysis tech versus a registered nurse.

[StatisticalOutlier]

52 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

There is no mention of a degree from any college in Bri's bio but lists her numerous certifications and jobs she has held.

Which bio is that?  I saw a linkedin profile that says she (if it's the right Briana Morris) has a bachelors degree in Cybersecurity and Information Assurance from Western Governors University (the "online university" I mentioned above).  It's the only school it shows, and the dates, interestingly, are 2019-2020.  Although one of the "interests" listed is Northern Virginia Community College.

 

 

[StatisticalOutlier]

3 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

I can't blame her either as she's just about to get married to someone who does not know her - this is the first impression for their stranger husbands & some of these bride's aren't even comfortable with themselves.

Why do we let society do this to us?  The husbands are making a first impression for their stranger wives, and all they have to do is rent a tuxedo and maybe personalize the look by not wearing socks. 

[endure]

14 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

When Eric talks to VA, he always looks like he wants to explode.  He was grinding his fist into his palm one time.  Does he want to hit her?  Eric has every right to expect his wife to spend time with him and not rage out on alcohol with his friends.  VA is not a bad person, but clearly has alcohol problems.  Eric has every right to try to help her with that. Eric should continue to try to get VA to at least slow down her drinking. Its not Eric's dog,; its VA's.  If a woman I started dating started getting on my cats, she would be gone and I would move on to the next girlfriend.  I would never give up my cats for a woman. 

From what I’ve seen Eric also has drinking problems.

[Lindz]

On 4/7/2021 at 7:09 PM, gonecrackers said:

So Haley still wants to "try". But does "try" mean being around after the cameras leave, is the question.

She should've been honest for once & just admitted she's done.

She still wants to try, but when will she?? When they're divorced?? 😅😂 That's how you know it's BS. She didn't say, "I'm going to keep trying."

[Lindz]

On 4/7/2021 at 8:22 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

Dr. Pepper was wrong, IMO, in telling Erik that, for example,  as a  new stepfather of a child he shouldn't act parental in the sense of discipline, like he wants to be with Rocky Dog.  Uh, Pepper old girl, a new stepfather in the Real World probably had that "ease into it" time---called "dating the child's mother." 

Ya. I disagreed with her there. People share pet ownership when they marry. It was childish & inappropriate of Virginia to say he's HER dog. If she has THEIR children, will she say they're HER'S?? His approach was wrong, that's what needed correcting.

[Lindz]

On 4/7/2021 at 8:43 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

I like how the people who can't get pregnant are the ones eager for kids (Erik, Vinny).

Ya. It's really weird they don't empathize or try to reassure them. Erik kind of did, saying he thinks she'd be a great mom. But he only cares about what he thinks, so eh... Eager guys make me think of something Judge Judy said. She said if guys had to give birth, that'd be the last child on Earth & plants would run the planet. Bahaha!! 😂😂

[Lindz]

On 4/8/2021 at 7:12 AM, NoWhammies said:

If I had to classify how I "found" Chris's face, I'd say punchable...

By the look of it, plenty of people have punched it. 😂😂

[Lindz]

WOWWW!!!! Ask your spouse what marriage looks like with 3 weeks remaining?!!! WHAT DID I SAY??? It should be one of the FIRST things they discuss!! 😂😂 COME ON!!

[Lindz]

On 4/8/2021 at 9:43 AM, gonecrackers said:

But his delivery is not just bad, it's quite damaging.

These people really need to try mirroring their spouses & give them a good taste of their own medicine. That should do the trick! 😉😂

[Elizzikra]

So is Chris going to make Mercedes return the new car to him or is he just going to let the repo man take care of it when the time comes?

[Baltimore Betty]

41 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

So is Chris going to make Mercedes return the new car to him or is he just going to let the repo man take care of it when the time comes?

IF that car every existed in the first place, Mercedes did not strike me as a woman that would not have a car of her own.

[gonecrackers]

4 hours ago, Lindz said:

Ya. I disagreed with her there. People share pet ownership when they marry. It was childish & inappropriate of Virginia to say he's HER dog. If she has THEIR children, will she say they're HER'S?? His approach was wrong, that's what needed correcting.

Not necessarily. There are situations where the new person coming in is willing to live with the pet but not take responsibility, or where people are living together & one wants the pet so, again, takes responsibility. It's not ideal but it happens. The situation has to be comfortable for everyone though, so if the pet is not well behaved then either the owner needs to do the training (or both together or if the other person is interested).

3 hours ago, Lindz said:

These people really need to try mirroring their spouses & give them a good taste of their own medicine. That should do the trick! 😉😂

They'll just turn it back on the other as being the problem. Rarely do they see themselves in the mirroring.

37 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

IF that car every existed in the first place, Mercedes did not strike me as a woman that would not have a car of her own.

Chris said Mercedes was involved in a bad accident years ago & hadn't driven much, if at all, since. So it seems like she didn't have a car but was going to try to start driving again because of the baby. I don't know if she's publicly acknowledged/confirmed this information or not.

[Kdawg82]

A lot of speculation about what type of engineer Briana is... I could've sworn on the kickoff special, it showed her in a descriptive montage of her with her looking over blueprints at a sort of architect's-type desk. So I assumed she was an engineer more like a civil engineer or something like that??

I got satisfaction when Hailey was called out in every scene where Jake has to change for *HER* and being asked what *she* is contributing.  I understand her side too but she's not being honest with him or with herself in terms of being "the one for her."  Her version of trying is 1) trying to hide her scowls at his replies or lack thereof to her questions and 2) her asking some "probing" Questions. I honestly don't even think she has any evidence of a sense of humor that I've seen at all. I have a feeling she's been "traveling the world" trying to find herself a-la "eat, pray, love" but any time it fell through like her in Australia with the job that "didn't work out," she just comes back to the open arms of her family and they help her get herself back together. I don't even know if she knows who she is. But anyway, aggravating seeing her cry any time she's called out. I don't think anyone has ever done that to her. "Hard on myself" is a way to cover up the image of perfection she tries to portray despite deep insecurity because she's been "yes'd" to death by all around her. I like her girlfriends though and they at least brought more to the table than her. 

Everyone summed up Chris so no need to go there. 

Eric may be "controlling" but miss party girl "I'll be home whenever I damn well please" isn't helping any tendencies he has towards that. Who the heck cares for her dogs when she's out partying? It's no wonder any pet of hers would have issues. I agree with others saying she needs a professional to tell her stop drinking because Eric's credibility has been compromised.  

Ryan and Clara- Whatever reason he won't have sex with her is his personal business and her business as well. It's upsetting he won't be honest with her and she has to vent out to the other women. That's very wrong to not be upfront. If he's accepting sexual favors from her, it's especially wrong. I've always liked him and I've grown to like Clara.  But refusal to raise kids in the church is a deal breaker for him and I get that. The experts messed up AGAIN on the issues of utter importance to the couples. I wonder if they will last.  Not so sure even if they get to decision day that they'll get much further. 

[crazychicken]

I just googled her and the articles list her job at a consulting firm so looked at the linked in and it is not her so all the speculation is for zip. The firm is in Virginia for a start so she probably is a civil engineer.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Chris said Mercedes was involved in a bad accident years ago & hadn't driven much, if at all, since. So it seems like she didn't have a car but was going to try to start driving again because of the baby. I don't know if she's publicly acknowledged/confirmed this information or not.

That is what Chris says.

If Chris' mouth is moving, he is lying.

[gonecrackers]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Betty said:

That is what Chris says.

If Chris' mouth is moving, he is lying.

Yup; I agree. That's why I said she hasn't confirmed or denied this, but then again she could be in on it all as well. I usually don't comment on this particular group because I think the whole thing is BS. Regardless it's all pretty sick stuff & I truly hope this isn't the direction this show will be going.

[humbleopinion]

13 minutes ago, crazychicken said:

I just googled her and the articles list her job at a consulting firm so looked at the linked in and it is not her so all the speculation is for zip. The firm is in Virginia for a start so she probably is a civil engineer.

 

MAFS Briana Morris and this Briana Morris are the same?

Perhaps the names are coincidentally are the same as is the job title because I am not seeing the same woman we see on teevee Wednesdays...

But who knows....

[Devvie]

14 hours ago, endure said:

From what I’ve seen Eric also has drinking problems.

I disagree... 1) if he had issues he'd never be able to hold a job as a pilot (they have random tests all the time and since he has an "on call" type schedule he needs to be sober most of the time). 2) if he had issues he would not have gotten drunk when he was trying to keep up with Virginia. Virginia has the "liver" and tolerance and can metabolize alcohol easily.  He gets drunk because he a) has never been a drinker and developed tolerance and b) doesn't have the "liver".  The ability to "drink others under the table" (as Ms. V does) is a huge red flag.  3) When Pepper suggested they not drink, Eric had no problem with that. Unfortunately, he wimped out delivering that message to Ms. V.  

[glitterpussy]

On 4/9/2021 at 7:14 AM, Boo Boo said:

That's what is so funny to me. Both are still in their 30s, attractive men with good careers and yet they will never ever find anyone else except for the person the experts purposefully mismatched them with?  I'm 53.  I guess I should just curl up and fucking die since no man is ever going to want me since my last chance at love evidently was in my 30s..

No, no...they will never find anyone without expending any effort whatsoever on improving themselves or making a relationship work.

[Lindz]

On 4/8/2021 at 1:20 PM, Ilovepie said:

As cathartic as I imagine that would feel, I doubt it would work - he would just pick up his phone and ignore them or get up and leave,  spouting off about being disrespected. Which reminds me, for someone who is all about being respected, he shows little regard for being respectFUL of others, including their time. I could not believe he just waltzed in FORTY FIVE MINUTES LATE to his meeting with PC as if all these people are just at his beck and call...

YESSSSSSSS!!!! Hypochris demands respect, yet is the most disrespectful PO$!!!!! ICANTEVEN!!!!

[Lindz]

WOW DR. PEPPER!! COMING THROUGH WITH THE BALLS TO BRING UP THEIR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION!! WAY TO GET SERIOUS!! It's the most OBVIOUS issue, like I said last week. They're drunk messes! WHY is Erik avoiding that GLARING issue, but nitpicking EVERYTHING else??? Building up to it?? Cuz he's been so successful addressing everything else? 😂

[StatisticalOutlier]

5 hours ago, crazychicken said:

I just googled her and the articles list her job at a consulting firm so looked at the linked in and it is not her so all the speculation is for zip. The firm is in Virginia for a start so she probably is a civil engineer.

In my first post about this, I qualified it with "if I'm looking at the right person."  Some celebrity websites said that the Briana on MAFS was an "information assurance engineer," which is what got me looking around.  Lots and lots of sites called her an engineer, but I didn't see any that specified what type.  I assumed the ones with the more specific information were accurate.

I couldn't tell from the photo whether it was her or not; I have a crappy TV.  I also figured the firm's being in Virginia was possible, like that's where the mothership is, especially with everybody working remotely these days.  So there were no red flags.

If I'm wrong, I apologize for the wild goose chase.  What's ironic is that I'm the first one to criticize the internet as being a sinkhole of misinformation, and have thought my life's mission has become to correct it. 

[Lindz]

On 4/9/2021 at 6:02 AM, Starlight925 said:

Vincent said he will not be a man who lays on his death bed, not surrounded by his kids (hopefully adult kids, grandkids, maybe some great-grands!).

Such a romanticized ending, it's kind of funny & dumb. 😅😂 How many people actually die like that?

[Lindz]

17 days remaining... 33 days ago... IT AIN'T ADDING UP!!!! Glad they finally stopped the stupid, SHAM "re-commitment" crap. Very similar though. Unanswered questions... They should have the spouse join the discussion after so they can properly address what came up. BTW, Haley wasn't wearing her ring so it's pretty much official!! 👀 WHY don't "experts" ask spouses without their ring why they aren't wearing them???

[Empress1]

4 hours ago, Devvie said:

I disagree... 1) if he had issues he'd never be able to hold a job as a pilot (they have random tests all the time and since he has an "on call" type schedule he needs to be sober most of the time). 2) if he had issues he would not have gotten drunk when he was trying to keep up with Virginia. Virginia has the "liver" and tolerance and can metabolize alcohol easily.  He gets drunk because he a) has never been a drinker and developed tolerance and b) doesn't have the "liver".  The ability to "drink others under the table" (as Ms. V does) is a huge red flag.  3) When Pepper suggested they not drink, Eric had no problem with that. Unfortunately, he wimped out delivering that message to Ms. V.  

I think Erik has even said outright that the amount and/or frequency that Virginia drinks is more than he's used to. I think he said it on the honeymoon, when the first think Virginia did (I think she had her suitcase still in hand, if I recall correctly) was crack the minibar. I also noticed his body language when Virginia wanted a mimosa once they were home - he was like "... Really?" That was amplified by the fact that she said her mimosas only have a few drops of OJ in them; his face and body language in that scene were like " ... Huh," and not in a good sense. Like, getting drunk on the honeymoon is one thing - it's a vacation, a lot of people drink more on vacation. But they were getting back to regular life at that point and she was still drinking that much, and I think that was him realizing that her drinking a lot isn't just a vacation thing. The fact that she immediately shut down him suggesting they (really, she) drink less is a red flag. When Dr. Pepper suggested that, he was like "I'm absolutely cool with it but I don't know how she'll take it," which is telling.

As I've said, I'm not qualified to say that she's an alcoholic, but she appears to have a relationship with alcohol that I wouldn't be cool with. 

[Lindz]

A 10 Clara?? Best case scenario?? REALLY?!!! WOW! She really doesn't want help since she's not being honest. Oh well. & asking Ryan how Clara feels... like he cares! HA!! Of course he doesn't know! These people!!! Just say vague things, it's so annoying. HOW does she fall in love all the time? WTF does that even mean? We already know she has low standards, so it seems meaningless. Maybe her love is as empty as her sex.

[pdlinda]

1 hour ago, Lindz said:

Such a romanticized ending, it's kind of funny & dumb. 😅😂 How many people actually die like that?

Honestly, no one I know...not saying it doesn't happen; however, different circumstances prevented me from being present when each of my beloved parents passed away.

51 minutes ago, Lindz said:

A 10 Clara?? Best case scenario?? REALLY?!!! WOW! She really doesn't want help since she's not being honest. Oh well. & asking Ryan how Clara feels... like he cares! HA!! Of course he doesn't know! These people!!! Just say vague things, it's so annoying. HOW does she fall in love all the time? WTF does that even mean? We already know she has low standards, so it seems meaningless. Maybe her love is as empty as her sex.

I've decided that both Clara and Ryan present as "cartoon characters!" 

I don't mean that in a necessarily disparaging way. 

It's just that each seems "over the top" in a kind of stereotypical short take of a "square" (him) and a Jessica Rabbit-type "floozy" (her)!!

[Lindz]

On 4/11/2021 at 5:27 AM, Gator Stud said:

If you are gonna come on this show, you should visit a stylist first, and bring your best. Anthony's wife from Chicago didnt have the perfect body, but she maximized her assets and brought her best. Mindy brought shitty sweatpants and expected Zack to be attractive to that.  Why doesnt everybody bring their best?

Probably caught up in their idea of instant marriage. They already got the spouse, so they don't have to "win" them over. They can be themselves & their spouse should accept them as they are. Sad misconception. I think that's the major flaw with these arrangements, especially for the guys. It shouldn't be an act either, they should actually be their best as in that's who they are. Best isn't necessarily physical appearance, which if someone doesn't like can't be helped. Behavior is what really matters. 😂

[Lindz]

WRONG ANSWER BRIANA!!!! BLAME YOUR LACK OF ASSERTIVENESS VINCENT!!!! Her answer was ALL ABOUT HER. He brought NO solutions to the table & just internalized his frustration & complained to the cameras that she's not compromising. GROW TF UP & RESOLVE IT!!!! & They keep VAGUELY discussing entertainment/dating like they vastly disagree. If they would get SPECIFIC they'd probably feel better & find they actually agree. Same with Clara & Ryan on raising their kids religiously. He let her talk & said he wasn't okay with what she said in his TH. They didn't even play out the scenario. So stupid.

[crazychicken]

@StatisticalOutlier
there is no need to apologise that Linked in profile is one of the first things that pop up when you google her name plus there is a lot of sites that quote that as her career. I just assume one of those dodgy celebrity networth sites connected them as the employment timeline fits her age. It was only people commenting here that she seemed more to be a civil engineer that made me look at the actual profile to see what her education history actually was.

[Starlight925]

3 hours ago, Lindz said:

Such a romanticized ending, it's kind of funny & dumb. 😅😂 How many people actually die like that?

My father died exactly like that.  And yes, it was exactly how he wanted it to be.

[Lindz]

These people just can't communicate!! So tragic!! As far as Virginia shutting down only having serious conversations when completely sober... disturbing. It does take two though, so Erik could muster up some maturity and adhere to that on his own. It really is okay to suspend an unproductive conversation. The problem is, these people don't even know how to have productive conversations. Seriously. If they'd just ask how what they said helps the situation, maybe it'd turn it around. Should at least enlighten. 😂

[Elizzikra]

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Such a romanticized ending, it's kind of funny & dumb. 😅😂 How many people actually die like that?

My father did as well though there were only two of us "kids."

I volunteer at a hospice and plenty of people die surrounded by loved ones, or at least they did before COVID. Not everyone dies with no warning...

[scruffy73]

Are y’all really cribbing about Briana having the title engineer just bc she doesn’t have an engineering degree? Seriously, it’s not that big a deal. Every company titles their jobs differently and engineering is such a diverse field and set of skills. Education is not the only way to gain engineering acumen. 
 

source: my life. I have a BS in Chemistry and Bachelors in Chemical Engineering and have worked in different engineering roles that had absolutely nothing to do with my education. I honestly didn’t need an engineering degree at all to do any of my engineering roles.

my point: Leave my girl Briana, the engineer, alone! Lol

[Empress1]

38 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

My father did as well though there were only two of us "kids."

I volunteer at a hospice and plenty of people die surrounded by loved ones, or at least they did before COVID. Not everyone dies with no warning...

I lost my father recently and my sibling and I (his only kids) were at his bedside, for which I am profoundly grateful. I hate that we lost him (grief is a motherfucker) but I’m grateful to have been able to be there for him as he transitioned. My grandfather had my sibling and my uncle at his bedside. My grandmothers died in hospice (one at home, one not) in their sleep, but we were all with them the day before.

But the point is, family seems to be extremely important to Vinny - didn’t he say he wanted 4 kids? (And even that is something the experts should look at - Chris wanted 7 kids, which would be a hard no for many, including me.)

[gonecrackers]

While it's entirely possible, obviously, that someone can pass away peacefully with loving family around him, that's not something anyone can expect - hope for, yes, but not expect. I'm sure Vinny realizes this, & it's nice that he's so family oriented. Hope it all works out for them.

[JapMo]

38 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

While it's entirely possible, obviously, that someone can pass away peacefully with loving family around him, that's not something anyone can expect - hope for, yes, but not expect. I'm sure Vinny realizes this, & it's nice that he's so family oriented. Hope it all works out for them.

I felt terrible guilt for 3 years that I wasn't there when my husband died.  He died on Thanksgiving.  I told all the family to come because he would not make it to Christmas.  Everyone came, and I was up at the crack of dawn to buy some last minute groceries to begin making the dinner, and I come back home and all my adult children are standing outside the house crying.  He died while I was away.  

It tore me up inside until my aunt relayed when my uncle died, she had been at the hospital practically around the clock for 2 weeks.  She stepped outside to go to the vending machine for coffee and he died while she was gone.  She told me it's a 'Hollywood thing' about dying with everyone standing around you.  It doesn't actually happen like that in real life.  For those that are lucky enough to be there at the end when their loved one dies, consider yourself blessed. 

[Ilovepie]

1 hour ago, JapMo said:

I felt terrible guilt for 3 years that I wasn't there when my husband died.  He died on Thanksgiving.  I told all the family to come because he would not make it to Christmas.  Everyone came, and I was up at the crack of dawn to buy some last minute groceries to begin making the dinner, and I come back home and all my adult children are standing outside the house crying.  He died while I was away.  

It tore me up inside until my aunt relayed when my uncle died, she had been at the hospital practically around the clock for 2 weeks.  She stepped outside to go to the vending machine for coffee and he died while she was gone.  She told me it's a 'Hollywood thing' about dying with everyone standing around you.  It doesn't actually happen like that in real life.  For those that are lucky enough to be there at the end when their loved one dies, consider yourself blessed. 

@JapMo I am so sorry! My family has experienced the same guilt when my grandmother died alone on Thanksgiving two years ago. My aunt found her when she went to her house to start the food. We are all wracked with guilt wondering if she suffered beforehand and sad nobody was there. I can't think about it too much because it upsets me. I have many family members who we were with, and some that we couldn't. I flew all day to reach my mom before she passed. I got there an hour before it happened. I think she was waiting for me. Gah! Now I am at work crying! Moving on.....

For Vinny, I think it's less about the actual deathbed and more about having a large, close and loving family. I think it's nice that this is such a priority for him. I cannot believe that they didn't vet this aspect more thoroughly for these couples. It can't just be "do you want kids"? It also needs to be "what is your timeline for having children" as well, and possibly "how many" too, although that can be fluid for people depending on circumstances as experiences.

[gingerandcloves]

I feel like this season is so unpleasant, maybe even worse than the D.C. one. I'm having to force myself to watch the episodes.