Season 20 Discussion

[Persnickety1]

I didn't see a thread started for the new (final) season premiering tonight so I thought I'd start one.

Mr Persnickety and I tried watching this mess when it first debuted.  I couldn't sit through the solid hour of dumb every week so abandoned it pretty quickly. 

I just recently started watching this mess because E has been marathoning it forfuckingever so I've been catching different seasons and episodes here and there.

Anybody else watching the premiere tonight?  

Anybody else wondering if this is really the demise of the show or a calculated move by Kris to get more money?  

Inquiring minds and all that...

[nexxie]

Really?! Khloe would rather go through shots and egg retrieval than just jump in the sack and get it done? 

[nexxie]

47 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

Anybody else wondering if this is really the demise of the show or a calculated move by Kris to get more money?  

Inquiring minds and all that...

They signed a new deal with another network - not sure what kind of show(s) they plan to do though.

[GaT]

I didn’t realize Scott & Sofia were ever living together. I LMAO when Scott was talking to Kourtney about why he & Sofia broke up & he said “I even put it out there that taking care of you is one of my priorities” & Kourtney takes a drink & says “yeah”. Could she get any more Kardashian?

If the baby bar is so public, why don’t we know if Kim passed or not? Interesting that she said torts was her worst subject since it used to be her best

I’ve been wondering about this for a few seasons. A lot of times when they show some film of the family, they have a green tint around the people, it looks like what a 3D movie looks like if you watch without the glasses. Why do they do this? It annoys me.

Khloe had egg removal surgery in full makeup

[weaver]

I actually enjoyed the show.  I hadn't kept up with them for a while, so some of it seemed fairly fresh and more real to me.  

Did Kim pass the baby bar?   She's got to have smart genes; daddy was a lawyer and Mama K is no dummy  that's for sure.   

I died when I saw the Malibu house.  

Scott gets on my nerves with all his goody two shoes preaching.  And now he's dating Rinna's young daughter.   

 

[Persnickety1]

10 hours ago, nexxie said:

They signed a new deal with another network - not sure what kind of show(s) they plan to do though.

Ugh, I was pretty sure there was money involved and they weren't simply walking away from the cameras. 

Here's the scoop.  It's on Hulu streaming service and described as a multiyear partnership.

Now I'm wondering whether the clan left E for more money with Hulu or if they made a deal with Hulu because E dumped them.

I wonder if what led to this will be part of this final season's story line.  

[nexxie]

43 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

Ugh, I was pretty sure there was money involved and they weren't simply walking away from the cameras. 

Here's the scoop.  It's on Hulu streaming service and described as a multiyear partnership.

Now I'm wondering whether the clan left E for more money with Hulu or if they made a deal with Hulu because E dumped them.

I wonder if what led to this will be part of this final season's story line.  

I’d bet Kris arranged this deal before announcing the end of their show - big money move.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-kardashians-made-tv-deals-e-disney-hulu-2020-12#its-not-known-how-much-the-original-contract-was-for-but-the-show-was-an-instant-hit-e-renewed-it-for-a-second-season-within-a-month-of-its-premiere-date-by-april-2012-they-signed-a-three-year-deal-that-took-them-up-to-season-nine-2

[Persnickety1]

8 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I’d bet Kris arranged this deal before announcing the end of their show - big money move.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-kardashians-made-tv-deals-e-disney-hulu-2020-12#its-not-known-how-much-the-original-contract-was-for-but-the-show-was-an-instant-hit-e-renewed-it-for-a-second-season-within-a-month-of-its-premiere-date-by-april-2012-they-signed-a-three-year-deal-that-took-them-up-to-season-nine-2

Great article, thanks for posting it.  

As annoying as these people can be, I'll give them credit for taking an opportunity and running with it to create an "empire."  

Although I've missed many seasons and episodes over the years, I did catch episodes where Kim used her connections for Alice Marie Johnson to have her sentence commuted and another episode where they helped raise $500,000 at a charity poker event for City of Hope, and Kim apparently had donated $500,000 to Hurricane Harvey relief. 

Things like that really softened my view of the family.  They may be the ultimate famewhores but at least they're using the money and influence to help others.  I *almost* feel badly for judging them so harshly as a gaggle of morons when the show first debuted.  Almost but not quite.  

I've set this season up on my DVR to catch the episodes as they air.   

That Malibu house in last night's episode definitely made the episode worth watching.  WOW.  I love the real estate porn I've seen on this show.  

[nexxie]

10 hours ago, GaT said:

I didn’t realize Scott & Sofia were ever living together. I LMAO when Scott was talking to Kourtney about why he & Sofia broke up & he said “I even put it out there that taking care of you is one of my priorities” & Kourtney takes a drink & says “yeah”. Could she get any more Kardashian?

So true lol. She seems to forever play hard to get - and his life seems on hold waiting for her to want him back. Not exactly a healthy dynamic.

[Bazinga]

4 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

That Malibu house in last night's episode definitely made the episode worth watching. 

For sale:

Socialite Diana Jenkins Asks $125 Million for Epic Malibu Compound

Malibu Breaks Records With New Mansion Listings Including A $125 Million Estate

Socialite Diana Jenkins Asks $125 Million for Epic Malibu Compound

Inside Diana Jenkins’ $125 Million Malibu Home

Neuro Drinks Creator Diana Jenkins Puts Malibu Home on the Market for $125M

 

[Cheyanne11]

18 hours ago, GaT said:

If the baby bar is so public, why don’t we know if Kim passed or not?

She took it last summer and no one knows yet?  That sounds shady.

Then again, everything this family does is shady in my eyes.  Hard to believe a word that came out of any of their mouths in this episode. 

[Marley]

This show is so fucking stupid lol. That’s all I can say at this point.

[Hiyo]

‘Keeping Up With the Kardashians’ Final Season Premiere Reveals Their Stunning COVID Hypocrisy.

[Cheyanne11]

From the above article:

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“It’s really hard to celebrate the way we used to, but we’re keeping it tight,” Kris says. “Everyone’s been tested before they come to the house and we had masks made for Kim’s celebration, and I think we’re all set.”

I mean, yeah, my heart just bleeds for them.  They had a significant amount of people indoors, during a pandemic, and the mask wearing was iffy.  Yet, to them, they feel like this is them being the epitome of safe. 

[princelina]

On 3/19/2021 at 8:25 AM, weaver said:

Did Kim pass the baby bar?   She's got to have smart genes; daddy was a lawyer and Mama K is no dummy  that's for sure.   

Good point!  And all of their kids are so dull - I guess it’s nurture >nature!

[FizzyPuff]

On 3/19/2021 at 2:31 AM, nexxie said:

Really?! Khloe would rather go through shots and egg retrieval than just jump in the sack and get it done? 

Why is Khloe even having another child with Tristian? I can't believe it, I thought it was a joke honestly.

[Marley]

I think Tristan and Khloe are back together now.

Scott and his relationship stuff is dumb. He’s a creepy perv dating teenagers.

[RoxieBear73]

On 3/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, Bazinga said:

For sale:

Socialite Diana Jenkins Asks $125 Million for Epic Malibu Compound

Malibu Breaks Records With New Mansion Listings Including A $125 Million Estate

Socialite Diana Jenkins Asks $125 Million for Epic Malibu Compound

Inside Diana Jenkins’ $125 Million Malibu Home

Neuro Drinks Creator Diana Jenkins Puts Malibu Home on the Market for $125M

 

That is one nice house. If only I was a billionaire so I can buy it haha. 

[GaT]

Yeah, Tristan & Khloe are absolutely together again. They gave him a little sit down with Scott to explain himself, they gave him a TH to talk to us, & they gave him a chance to call the Ks "family", yeah, they're together.

How many nannies do you think Kendall had taking care of the kids? 

[druzy]

8 minutes ago, GaT said:

How many nannies do you think Kendall had taking care of the kids? 

That's what I came here to say.

[RedbirdNelly]

I've started watching this show due to COVID boring and this had to be one of the dullest episodes. Babysitting? not interested

[Cheyanne11]

I've only made it 15 minutes thru this snoozefest, but let me just say this:

Tristan: "Khloe doesn't let what people say on social media bother her" had me rolling.  There's literally a People story every time she 'claps back' at the haters. 

I will give her this: her talking head about Kendall having plenty of time to have kids was spot-on.  Of course that would mean I actually believe she "wants kids badly...and soon"  and that this isn't just a lame storyline assigned to her. 

[endure]

On 3/20/2021 at 2:35 PM, Marley said:

I think Tristan and Khloe are back together now.

Scott and his relationship stuff is dumb. He’s a creepy perv dating teenagers.

Scott used to be the only person on this shit show that was half OK but he seems so over the top crazy now 🤮 maybe he's been that way for a while, I don't often watch.  As for Khloe, I could barely look at her, she looks like she's had a lot of work on her face or she's letting Kylie do her make-up lol.  Def appears Tristan is back with Khloe but she wasn't convincing.

[skipnjump]

I just don't get why Khloe is so set on being with Tristan.  This is a man who cheated on her when she was pregnant.  Hasn't shown a history of being good relationship material.  Is it just so she can have 2 kids by him?  I just don't get it. 

[Cocoa Puff]

1 hour ago, skipnjump said:

I just don't get why Khloe is so set on being with Tristan.  This is a man who cheated on her when she was pregnant.  Hasn't shown a history of being good relationship material.  Is it just so she can have 2 kids by him?  I just don't get it. 

She already got labeled the "ugly sister" so God forbid she gets labeled the sister with two different baby daddies. 

[Artsda]

Khloe didn't name Kylie's name when calling out who was Team Tristan.  I don't think Khloe gets why she looks bad, it's not even running back to Tristan for most part for me. It's how she shammed and they all attacked Jordyn and yet Tristan is now golden and loved.

[princelina]

10 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

She already got labeled the "ugly sister" so God forbid she gets labeled the sister with two different baby daddies. 

Won't Kylie be that one before she's old enough to drink legally? 😄 

[heatherchandler]

23 hours ago, GaT said:

Yeah, Tristan & Khloe are absolutely together again. They gave him a little sit down with Scott to explain himself, they gave him a TH to talk to us, & they gave him a chance to call the Ks "family", yeah, they're together.

How many nannies do you think Kendall had taking care of the kids? 

It was like he was reading from a script. You know his little speeches are written by Kris.  But why does he do it?  Is it for money? He does not love Khloe.

[GaT]

2 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

It was like he was reading from a script. You know his little speeches are written by Kris.  But why does he do it?  Is it for money? He does not love Khloe.

It's for the clout, being Kardashian adjacent makes you famous.

[Magog]

4 hours ago, GaT said:

It's for the clout, being Kardashian adjacent makes you famous.

If that is the case, how come Kylie's loser "friends" (Stassie & Victoria) are not famous?

As for Tristan Thompson, he doesn't need these idiots (especially Khloe) & the shame, dumbness, fleas, & bedbugs that comes with it to be famous. He is an NBA Champion (2016 Cavaliers (YAY!!)) & that part alone makes him famous. What is Khloe famous for other than being a complete failure at life, being lucked out by Kim's big ass & sex tape, having MaMa Kris around holding her hand all the time like the big baby that she is, & being an outright failure at being a parent?

[Hiyo]

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If that is the case, how come Kylie's loser "friends" (Stassie & Victoria) are not famous?

If one of them ever knocks her up and/or marries her, they probably will be.

[Cocoa Puff]

12 hours ago, princelina said:

Won't Kylie be that one before she's old enough to drink legally? 😄 

Well Kylie is over 21 now and there are reports that her and Travis are back together. Also dispute being with that "to catch an internet predator" Tyga, Kylie and Travis's relationship seems almost normal compared to her sisters relationships.

[Hiyo]

A low bar indeed.

[teapot]

I hate orchestrated activities on reality shows.  In whose reality is there a family obstacle course taking place at any given time?
 

 Almost makes me miss watching the Osbourne spawn go to the DMV and take their drivers’ test.

Edited March 27, 2021 by teapot

[DangerousMinds]

5 hours ago, Magog said:

If that is the case, how come Kylie's loser "friends" (Stassie & Victoria) are not famous?

As for Tristan Thompson, he doesn't need these idiots (especially Khloe) & the shame, dumbness, fleas, & bedbugs that comes with it to be famous. He is an NBA Champion (2016 Cavaliers (YAY!!)) & that part alone makes him famous. What is Khloe famous for other than being a complete failure at life, being lucked out by Kim's big ass & sex tape, having MaMa Kris around holding her hand all the time like the big baby that she is, & being an outright failure at being a parent?

Perfectly said!

[BrainyBlonde]

Guess they're ending this show at the right time since Kim and Khloe have now jumped on the Kourtney bandwagon of not wanting to discuss or feature their "private lives" on-camera. Kendall and Kylie have never wanted to share their relationships on the show either, so that leaves us with what? Kris's fauxmance with Corey and Scott + whatever teenager he's dating? <eye roll>

Khloe can miss me with her whinging about not being able to make decisions about her relationship with Tristan because of all the "haters" and the public offering unwanted opinions. Khloe, dear, you are reaping what you sowed. When Tristan cheated on you (more than once!), you reveled in playing the victim on your show and on social media. You wanted and invited sympathy from the world. You can't now say, "Backsies!" in regards to Tristan and expect everyone to support you. She is the girlfriend we've all had who cried and carried on when her man cheated on her and expected us to hate the guy along with her, but then when she wanted to reunite with the cheater, she got mad at you for not giving a thumbs-up to what's clearly a very bad idea. He will cheat on you and make you look like a fool again, Khloe, and next time no one is going to feel sorry for you. Bible.

Edited March 28, 2021 by BrainyBlonde

[FizzyPuff]

2 hours ago, BrainyBlonde said:

Guess they're ending this show at the right time since Kim and Khloe have now jumped on the Kourtney bandwagon of not wanting to discuss or feature their "private lives" on-camera. Kendall and Kylie have never wanted to share their relationships on the show either, so that leaves us with what? Kris's fauxmance with Corey and Scott + whatever teenager he's dating? <eye roll>

Khloe can miss me with her whinging about not being able to make decisions about her relationship with Tristan because of all the "haters" and the public offering unwanted opinions. Khloe, dear, you are reaping what you sowed. When Tristan cheated on you (more than once!), you reveled in playing the victim on your show and on social media. You wanted and invited sympathy from the world. You can't now say, "Backsies!" in regards to Tristan and expect everyone to support you. She is the girlfriend we've all had who cried and carried on when her man cheated on her and expected us to hate the guy along with her, but then when she wanted to reunite with the cheater, she got mad at you for not giving a thumbs-up to what's clearly a very bad idea. He will cheat on you and make you look like a fool again, Khloe, and next time no one is going to feel sorry for you. Bible.

Does Khloe realise that he hasn’t cheated on her again because he hasn’t had the opportunity? All the clubs and bars are closed? All the groupies aren’t hanging around waiting for someone famous to be seen with, dance, drink, kiss, sleep with etc. Is there no one in her life who can tell her this? Why would she want to have another kid and be with a man who hurt her so much? 

[Cheyanne11]

Just caught the second episode.  Man, the "Tristan is a great man!" redemption storyline is in full effect.  It's  borderline embarrassing the lengths they're going  to to ~prove Khloe isn't a doormat. 

Kylie's been in about 3 minutes of the first two episodes.  Do they pro-rate her paycheck, lol?

Also, hahahahaha at the Kendall babysitting plot.  I'm sure she was all alone with 3 toddlers overnight.  And 'what did Aunt Kenny make you for breakfast?" would've played better if the next scene was Kim, Khloe and Kendall chatting over the takeout containers.

[Marley]

This show is a joke. I’m only watching cause there’s like nothing else on.

The Kendall babysitting stuff is so stupid. These ppl have multiple nannies they don’t do anything on their own.

What is the point of the Malibu house? I guess advertisement for the owner. They are still going around doing whatever they want lol so it’s just dumb.

The Tristan stuff is so obviously to make it look better that they are back together. He is also with Khloe to be more famous. Yes Tristan is a NBA champion but he isn’t some superstar in the NBA. He’s a mid level player who yea is good but no one is going out of their way to talk about. I do think he’s hot tho lol not gonna lie.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Marley

[GaT]

So, Khloe is getting back together with her cheating baby daddy, Kim's 3rd marriage has blown up, & what's the plot for this episode? A Kardashian vs Jenner obstacle course, Kris & Corey practicing celibacy, & the rest of the family trying to get Kourtney & Scott back together. Yeah, real life.

[Maire]

Once I saw where this was headed ( obstacle course) I turned it off. So boring. Do better.

[nexxie]

About the obstacle course, I thought Kourtney and Khloe kept up pretty well considering the athletic build and youth of Kendall. (Of course Kris’s moneymakers didn’t actually have to do it.)

Given the photos of Skourt all over the internet, it was weird to see them so uncomfortable being together for that Swiss dinner. The conversation I’d like to see - how they really feel about each other and why they can’t be together - just isn’t going to happen on camera.

Edited April 3, 2021 by nexxie

[BrainyBlonde]

I actually enjoyed the obstacle course segment more than anything else I've seen on this show in quite a while. I was super impressed with Kourtney's performance considering she's 40+ and doesn't do those daily "beast" workouts that Khloe and Kim do. I think she would have beat Kendall's time easily if it weren't for the difference in height. I'm a short person like Kourt and I can say with certainty that Kendall had a MAJOR advantage with her long limbs. Scaling those tall walls was easy for her and a major challenge for a petite person like Kourt. I am sorry we didn't get to see Kylie or Kim do the obstacle course. I think Kylie punked out with that "sinus infection" on the day of and I believe Kim's bad knee story, but would have liked to see her do the course when she was healed up.

Kris can't even act like she's into Corey. I find it very uncomfortable to watch him try to rub all up on her when she looks totally disinterested.

Not sure how I feel about Scott/Kourt. I started watching this show when Kourt was pregnant with Mason and Scott was an alcoholic mess, punching mirrors and acting like a huge d-bag. So I missed seeing them really happy and in love. All I remember is the drama and how miserable they made each other. They do seem to be doing a great job of co-parenting and I think it's clear Scott still loves Kourt, but I just don't get that vibe from her at all. I think they both need to move on to partners they can be truly happy and fulfilled with. Since Scott keeps hooking up with teenagers, I do think he'll eventually marry and have kids with someone else.

[Juliegirlj]

I thought Scott had put his demons behind him, but he definitely seemed like he was on something in his confessionals. Kris and Corey make me wanna barf. I mean, come on...... 

[Magog]

2 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Kris and Corey make me wanna barf. I mean, come on...... 

 

On 4/2/2021 at 2:48 AM, GaT said:

Kris & Corey practicing celibacy

Good luck with that. Frankly, just even thinking about that is making me very nauseous. I'm hoping that there isn't a sex tape of them hiding somewhere. 

[RoxieBear73]

10 hours ago, Magog said:

 

Good luck with that. Frankly, just even thinking about that is making me very nauseous. I'm hoping that there isn't a sex tape of them hiding somewhere. 

They were scraping the bottom of the barrel when they came up with that storyline.  

[nexxie]

8 hours ago, RoxieBear73 said:

They were scraping the bottom of the barrel when they came up with that storyline.  

Really. What will they do to fulfill their side of the Hulu deal? Is it too much to hope the content will have nothing to do with them?

[Cocoa Puff]

Kris and Corey do the "wild thing"? Since when? Not that a woman Kris's age isn't still active in the bedroom but I get the more non sexual partner/caregiver type of vibes with Kris and Corey. 

She's not alone In that those big ass house's and she gets a young man to parade around.

Corey gets access to Kardashian world. 

[Cheyanne11]

Kylie has really checked out of this season--another episode where she's in one scene.

[Magog]

6 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Kris and Corey do the "wild thing"? Since when? Not that a woman Kris's age isn't still active in the bedroom but I get the more non sexual partner/caregiver type of vibes with Kris and Corey. 

She's not alone In that those big ass house's and she gets a young man to parade around.

Corey gets access to Kardashian world. 

And why would Corey want to have access to the Kardashian World? There is nothing good in it for him expect for hanging around them & getting fleas, ticks, & bedbugs.

He already lost his self-respect, his sense of dignity, & his sense of shame. And I'm also certain that his brain cells are turning into muck.