MAFS Social Media, Spoilers & Speculation

[Gigi43]

The arrest happened is Arizona... where the Honeymoon was, right? Maybe the show edited out when he took Ashley to the scene of the crime.

 

Until it is confirmed that it is him, I cannot say it is. From what I saw here the twitter comment said David "threatened a woman with a knife and was convicted", that's not Disorderly Conduct and an awfully specific detail to be spread around. I know it takes a lot for a network to scrap already shot footage, but, especially after having Jessica file charges on Ryan, and Sean's DUI arrest, if David had documented domestic violence in his past, I can't easily buy them airing this anyway. The decisions are shot before it all aired. They know it didn't end well, so maybe shit would hit the fan. Ashley is taking a beating on the internet. Why hasn't she said somewhere where she can be held legally accountable if false, that this is true? Same with the finance stuff. She'll retweet cryptic comments about "shadyness", but will not own anything. If this isn't true, and I were David, I would see if legal action could be taken against whoever owns that Twitter account (surely you have to put in an email or phone number that's kept active, right?) That is outright slander.

Edited February 12, 2016 by Gigi43

[Waterlilly]

It should really make people think that are applying for this show. But, noooooo they will be standing in line in Miami!

[Jack Sampson]

It should really make people think that are applying for this show. But, noooooo they will be standing in line in Miami!

I can't wait for that one...I've heard Cuban women argue! It's going to be exciting! Like Lucha Underground exciting!

[LynnM]

According to his LinkedIn resume, David was a sales rep for the Phoenix Coyotes from May 2007 through October 2007. The charges were filed on August 17, 2007.

I have no connection to anyone with the Show. I am just a big fan of the show who recently found this forum.

[Evil Queen]

 If this isn't true, and I were David, I would see if legal action could be taken against whoever owns that Twitter account (surely you have to put in an email or phone number that's kept active, right?) That is outright slander.

 

It would be considered slander I would think and I would think taking legal action on something like that stuff would be in order if it has affected his life (clients, friends, etc..). It seemed he did have a close group of friends so I agree I couldn't see that if he was some con man stilling from his friends and whoever. As for that info from Twitter I can imagine some give fake info BUT there are always ways to find out who set it up. IP address give away your location and if you are on a cell phone they will would know it I would think too. Of course I have had my email used by some who knows what guy for Instagram and I couldn't dealt it because they hooked a number to it. So I changed the password on it but I can't get rid of it. Same happened with Twitter to me but I was able to delete it with no problem from them. Obviously there are ways around things of course too. I would hope no one would think that was me posting whatever this idiot had or come after me thinking it was me in some legal manner. 

 

It should really make people think that are applying for this show. But, noooooo they will be standing in line in Miami!

 

OMG you would think so but doubt it. Sadly there is always going to be those that will do anything for 15 mins including marrying some stranger. LOL

 

I can't wait for that one...I've heard Cuban women argue! It's going to be exciting! Like Lucha Underground exciting!

 

LMAO Can imagine the drama from all that. Wonder if they will do a good mix of people or if it would end up mostly Cubans. 

[Adeejay]

According to his LinkedIn resume, David was a sales rep for the Phoenix Coyotes from May 2007 through October 2007. The charges were filed on August 17, 2007.

I have no connection to anyone with the Show. I am just a big fan of the show who recently found this forum.

 

Funny how your very first post is to slander David.  Wonder why. 

[BBDi]

Just thinking how David will probably be getting lots of those notifications from LinkedIn saying, "People are looking at your profile."

[LynnM]

Why do you think, Adeejay? You know you could welcome me to the forum.

[sleekandchic]

General comment: oh for the love of God.

Comment specific to Ashley: it becomes clearer every day why she REALLY left social work.

Comments re MAFS's Production principals: 1. make a public statement explaining the criminal background checks required by Kinetic before signing a MAFS participant to a contract. 2. Confirm or deny the rumors of DV against David Norton. 3. If rumors true, defend your decision to use him and possibly endangering the life of his wife and your employees, including your four professional Experts. 4. If rumors false, go on public record, including social media, to squelch the anonymous accusations.

[LynnM]

And my first post is not slander. It is factual. I never said the arrestee was this David.

[Gator Stud]

According to his LinkedIn resume, David was a sales rep for the Phoenix Coyotes from May 2007 through October 2007. The charges were filed on August 17, 2007.

I have no connection to anyone with the Show. I am just a big fan of the show who recently found this forum.

Currently there are 24 David Nortons listed living in AZ. And those are the ones with listed landlines. Who knows how many unlisted landlines and cell phone David Norton s there are.

[Gigi43]

It would be considered slander I would think and I would think taking legal action on something like that stuff would be in order if it has affected his life (clients, friends, etc..). It seemed he did have a close group of friends so I agree I couldn't see that if he was some con man stilling from his friends and whoever. As for that info from Twitter I can imagine some give fake info BUT there are always ways to find out who set it up. IP address give away your location and if you are on a cell phone they will would know it I would think too. Of course I have had my email used by some who knows what guy for Instagram and I couldn't dealt it because they hooked a number to it. So I changed the password on it but I can't get rid of it. Same happened with Twitter to me but I was able to delete it with no problem from them. Obviously there are ways around things of course too. I would hope no one would think that was me posting whatever this idiot had or come after me thinking it was me in some legal manner.

 

Yikes! That's awful. I hope no one did anything too stupid on your account. I had my FB hacked once but thankfully it was "just" flooding newsfeed with "Here's how to win a free iPhone" BS. Oh, and I had people actually leave me wall posts saying "you've been hacked, change your PW", from people who I usually think of as smart... obviously had I been signed on to FB I would have! A friend smart enough to text me let me know. Person Of Interest is one of my favorite shows on TV now (well, kind of on thanks to CBS being idiots...), I kind of live with "you are being watched" in my head when it comes to anything with an internet connection; it has advantages and disadvantages.

Edited February 12, 2016 by Gigi43

[ctbabe]

Currently there are 24 David Nortons listed living in AZ. And those are the ones with listed landlines. Who knows how many unlisted landlines and cell phone David Norton s there are.

Someone already posted this allegation on twitter. Ashley's friend, Ashley Houser is following this person. They are so bitter.

One of my contact finally got back to me. It was for disorder conduct not for attacking someone with a knife. Since there was no jail time, we don't think it's that serious. Still not sure if it's David. Someone (maybe the network) ordered a copy 2 day before the wedding. That person knows what the allegation entails.

Edited February 12, 2016 by ctbabe

[Nffftshewasgone]

Ashley must've been afraid he'd steal her purse. Maybe he stole her mustache wax.

[Gator Stud]

Why is it not enough to like or dislike the cast on this show? The vitriol here is a little intense. This isn't fun, and this show is unwatchable.

I think that people have different opinions on things, and I think that is ok. I don't see the vitriol between posters, just vitriol directed at Ashley. Also some people think that Ashley's friends and family are coming on the forum just to bash David.

[sniglet]

Someone already posted this allegation on twitter. Ashley's friend, Ashley Houser is following this person. They are so bitter.

One of my contact finally got back to me. It was for disorder conduct not for attacking someone with a knife. Since there was no jail time, we don't think it's that serious. Still not sure if it's David. Someone (maybe the network) ordered a copy 2 day before the wedding. That person knows what the allegation entails.

It was for two charges: disorderly conduct and criminal damage. The criminal damage charge was dismissed but a guilty plea was entered for the disorderly conduct. I'm curious though, if it was unrelated to domestic violence, why would the judge order domestic violence classes? They were ordered 10/2/07 and completed 6/26/08. This case was settled on a plea agreement which could explain the lack of jail time. Edited February 12, 2016 by sniglet

[ctbabe]

It was for two charges: disorderly conduct and criminal damage. The criminal damage charge was dismissed but a guilty plea was entered for the disorderly conduct. I'm curious though, if it was unrelated to domestic violence, why would the judge order domestic violence classes? They were ordered 10/2/07 and completed 6/26/08. This case was settled on a plea agreement which could explain the lack of jail time.

I am quoting my source now..

'Yes odd that involved dv class but no jail time and no dv charge. Prob drunk fight with ex. No way no jail and no dv charge if knife involved or any real danger. This coming from former prosecutor and current defense attorney.'

[sniglet]

I am quoting my source now..

'Yes odd that involved dv class but no jail time and no dv charge. Prob drunk fight with ex. No way no jail and no dv charge if knife involved or any real danger. This coming from former prosecutor and current defense attorney.'

Gotcha. Thanks for the interpretation :)

[MusicFan85]

Jesus.  Did David kill Ashley's dog?  They're really gunning for him.  What a whackjob family.

[Soup333]

None of this has anything to do with why she didn't give the marriage a chance anyway. They're putting this out here to justify her actions towards him - "woman's intuition" and all that. Ashley and her family/friends are full of shit.

[Pollock]

She didn't know his name two days before the wedding.. 

Just a general question because I've been asking myself this since season 1 and never bothered to ask (I think but if I already asked, I can't remember the answer) : don't people in the US need to get and sign a licence to marry someone? Wouldn't they therefore know the name of their spouse before the wedding, even if they didn't met them?

In France where I'm from, you have to do ton of paperwork before the wedding day (and you have to "publier les bans": make your intentions public on a wall outside city hall in case of someone opposing the wedding ("hey, I'm already married to this guy, he can't marry someone else! J'accuse!"). I'm guessing it's not the same in the US and probably depends on a State policy but still, it seems bizarre to me that they wouldn't have some kind of paperwork to do before the wedding.

[ctbabe]

Gotcha. Thanks for the interpretation :)

You are welcome. I am always happy to help ;)

[Drogo]

Interviews with the show runners claim that (a) they sign their marriage petition immediately after the wedding and (b) participants are paid "close to nothing."

[Pollock]

Interviews with the show runners claim that (a) they sign their marriage petition immediately after the wedding and (b) participants are paid "close to nothing."

Oh ok thank you!

If I get that correctly, the show is in charge of the paperwork and only disclose it after the filmed ceremony. So when they say "I do", technically, they still could opt-out just after because nothing legally binding has been signed? That's the window I would chose to bolt if I was truly disgusted by the sight of my new better half!

[biakbiak]

Just a general question because I've been asking myself this since season 1 and never bothered to ask (I think but if I already asked, I can't remember the answer) : don't people in the US need to get and sign a licence to marry someone? Wouldn't they therefore know the name of their spouse before the wedding, even if they didn't met them?

In France where I'm from, you have to do ton of paperwork before the wedding day (and you have to "publier les bans": make your intentions public on a wall outside city hall in case of someone opposing the wedding ("hey, I'm already married to this guy, he can't marry someone else! J'accuse!"). I'm guessing it's not the same in the US and probably depends on a State policy but still, it seems bizarre to me that they wouldn't have some kind of paperwork to do before the wedding.

In Georgia you can get the marriage license the same day you apply. It would not surprise me if these couples actually have the ceremony and than the next day went to the court house, got the license and than just had the clerk perform the ceremony. Depending on waiting times you can be in and out in less than an hour.

[BBDi]

Oh ok thank you!

If I get that correctly, the show is in charge of the paperwork and only disclose it after the filmed ceremony. So when they say "I do", technically, they still could opt-out just after because nothing legally binding has been signed? That's the window I would chose to bolt if I was truly disgusted by the sight of my new better half!

That's an interesting observation...I wonder if that has happened. Supposedly Neil and Sam got married a few weeks later than the other couples. It would be interesting if another couple had met at the wedding and just said "Nope, not doing it."

Too bad Ashley didn't do that - it has been excruciating to watch their non-marriage.

[Pollock]

In Georgia you can get the marriage license the same day you apply. It would not surprise me if these couples actually have the ceremony and than the next day went to the court house, got the license and than just had the clerk perform the ceremony. Depending on waiting times you can be in and out in less than an hour.

Thank you for your answer!

Wow, I'm just amazed how efficient this is! I knew about Las Vegas of course, but I thought it was just another thing to get tourists like casinos and cheap outlets, not a real way of doing it elsewhere in the US. 

[Liberty]

Many good posts in the last 12 hr.s !

 

According to his LinkedIn resume, David was a sales rep for the Phoenix Coyotes from May 2007 through October 2007. The charges were filed on August 17, 2007.

 

That may clear him, if someone was attacking people with a knife and did not want it to be known publicly, they might skip the 5 months of experience they gained with the Coyotes when aged 22.  It would be better to appear 'unemployed' than a knife wielding sales person.

 

I enjoy the new posters.  It is interesting they join the forums to present similar information in their first couple of posts.  It could have been more effective to start with some softball posts a couple of weeks ago rather than starting out with strong negative opinions about one character.  There was one a couple of weeks ago who dropped their bomb and did not return.  You need to blend in to develop credibility.

 

When the show is over, these forums and members will be missed more than the show!

[Gator Stud]

Many good posts in the last 12 hr.s ! I enjoy the new posters.  It is interesting they join the forums to present similar information in their first couple of posts.  It could have been more effective to start with some softball posts a couple of weeks ago rather than starting out with strong negative opinions about one character.  There was one a couple of weeks ago who dropped their bomb and did not return.  You need to blend in to develop credibility.

I notice this too. They show up and only bash David. They don't even mention any of the other cast members. I am not saying David is perfect.

[Drogo]

New members do not need to "blend in" to be treated with respect. 

 

Each and every one of us was a new member at one point and we can't stress enough: It doesn't matter if Sam or Ashley themselves join this forum, they are to be treated civilly. 

 

Finger-pointing/interrogations/aggression toward fellow posters (old and new) will be met with post-removals and possible disciplinary action. 

 

If you don't like what someone is saying, you have the ability to ignore (or Ignore) them.  If you feel that a member's posts go against our site's Rules of Conduct, you are encouraged to alert the PTV team using the "Report this Post" link under the questionable content.  Please use your abilities to the best of your ability, and take it easy with the heat that's been coming off this forum the last 24 hours. 

 

We want users to have a place to discuss everything MAFS that happens in social media, and this is that place, but the Rules of Conduct remain the same.  Be civil, be respectful. 

 

--MAFS Mods

 

 

 

 

[sniglet]

I notice this too. They show up and only bash David. They don't even mention any of the other cast members. I am not saying David is perfect.

I can't speak for any of the other posters, but for me I looked into David because he is the only one whose character is being questioned so heavily. The other cast members seem to be ridiculed on their looks or behavior, but David has had some pretty serious accusations thrown at him. I was really bored at work and decided to see if there was any credibility to those claims; I posted what I found. That said, the answer to if this is actually him or not remains open.

Sorry I didn't set myself up to seem more credible. Like I said before, I usually don't participate in these types of things unless I feel like I can add something to the conversation.

Edited February 12, 2016 by sniglet

[Drogo]

You are allowed to post and not post about whoever you want, sniglet.  There's no interview process to be a participant in this forum. 

 

I'm sorry about the way your first post was received.

[MsPH]

According to his LinkedIn resume, David was a sales rep for the Phoenix Coyotes from May 2007 through October 2007. The charges were filed on August 17, 2007.

I have no connection to anyone with the Show. I am just a big fan of the show who recently found this forum.

 

I guess it could be him then, but still, we don't know the details of the case. Sounds more like a drunken row anyway based on ctbabe's posts. In any case, whether it was him or not, it was 8 years ago and I haven't seen any signs of David having a temper on the show. Even when Ashley was yelling at him and running in and out of the kitchen, he just sat there and tried to talk to her without raising his voice. I highly doubt she was in any kind of danger. I do wonder if someone told her about the court case though and who it was. Did she have her family run a background check after the wedding? She seemed to be warming up to him during the first couple of days on the honeymoon, but then shut down completely. Maybe David himself told her since they were in Arizona where the alleged crime happened. Who knows. She was already rude to him at the wedding though and surely she knew nothing about his past then.

 

I do think it's kind of shady of this show to not do proper background checks until 2 days before the wedding. You'd think they would have these things handled before they even inform the participants they've been matched. Makes you wonder what kind of things they'd have to find to pull the plug or does everything get a pass as long as it's in the past? I don't think anyone should have to pay for their mistakes for all eternity, if no one was hurt, but it does open the door for all kinds of criticism when this show can't seem to find 6 people who've never been arrested.

[stuckin60s]

Very interesting, I also heard the rumors about David at the beginning.  I thought they seemed very strong especially after last years choices of participants and the outcry after.

 

If this happened and it was this David, he would have been 19 or 20?  Possible drunk fight? I hope someone can come up with the DV issues

 

No way Ashley knew this at the wedding.  She wouldnt even kiss him on the cheek for the wedding pictures.  She had told the experts she was willing to try someone different from her past types and that is what she got

 

I also agree that David has too many close friends to be the villian from the early posts ( stealing money, job issues etc).

 

but I also liked basement Ryan...

 

 

[BBDi]

In my opinion it would be wrong (and stupid from a liability angle) for the show to match someone with a DV-related offense in his record, especially without disclosing it to the spouse.

It seems unlikely that this would be David, but if it is, timing-wise it doesn't seem to totally explain Ashley's behavior towards him.

He seems like a nice guy in many ways but his over the top THs about his "wife" really put me off. I just laugh at both of them to be honest.

If he is not the person in that case then it is wrong to smear him with suggestions.

[ctbabe]

I guess it could be him then, but still, we don't know the details of the case. Sounds more like a drunken row anyway based on ctbabe's posts. In any case, whether it was him or not, it was 8 years ago and I haven't seen any signs of David having a temper on the show. Even when Ashley was yelling at him and running in and out of the kitchen, he just sat there and tried to talk to her without raising his voice. I highly doubt she was in any kind of danger. I do wonder if someone told her about the court case though and who it was. Did she have her family run a background check after the wedding? She seemed to be warming up to him during the first couple of days on the honeymoon, but then shut down completely. Maybe David himself told her since they were in Arizona where the alleged crime happened. Who knows. She was already rude to him at the wedding though and surely she knew nothing about his past then.

I do think it's kind of shady of this show to not do proper background checks until 2 days before the wedding. You'd think they would have these things handled before they even inform the participants they've been matched. Makes you wonder what kind of things they'd have to find to pull the plug or does everything get a pass as long as it's in the past? I don't think anyone should have to pay for their mistakes for all eternity, if no one was hurt, but it does open the door for all kinds of criticism when this show can't seem to find 6 people who've never been arrested.

I THINK that the show ran a background check and saw this but sent someone over (to AZ) or requested more details 2 days before the wedding to check the seriousness. According to what I was told a simple background check would not show a date but when you request more info then it would be dated.. I also think it was a drunk fight. Nothing abt DV.

I totally agree that this definitely doesn't excuse Ashley's behavior. SHE DIDN'T KNOW..

[BBDi]

I THINK that the show ran a background check and saw this but sent someone over (to AZ) or requested more details 2 days before the wedding to check the seriousness. According to what I was told a simple background check would not show a date but when you request more info then it would be dated.. I also think it was a drunk fight. Nothing abt DV.

I totally agree that this definitely doesn't excuse

Ashley's behavior. SHE DIDN'T KNOW..

Per the earlier post, though,the fact that they sent the offender for domestic violence education suggests that it was a drunken fight with a romantic partner. I totally get that it most likely was something very minor and a one-off - whoever the offender was - but it's still something I would want disclosed to me if I were being matched with someone.

In real life if I were dating someone with this history I would hope they would bring it up on their own and talk me through it. If it was this David maybe he did bring it up to Ashley.

[LynnM]

I really think that all the show participants should undergo a criminal history check (and perhaps they do). In my state it is mandatory if you are going to work or volunteer with children and some employers such as jewelry store owners require it so it is a simple routine process. It costs $25 and you go to a police station and get fingerprinted. The police run your prints in case you are in the system under a different name. They do a nationwide search of criminal records for any arrests and convictions.

[Waterlilly]

Isn't the idea behind DV education to help the person change? Maybe it did. Seems like if it is him he is not a repeat offender. He handle Ashley's anger pretty calmly. Better than I would.

[BBDi]

Isn't the idea behind DV education to help the person change? Maybe it did. Seems like if it is him he is not a repeat offender. He handle Ashley's anger pretty calmly. Better than I would.

Agreed. But what I'm trying to say is that in real life that is information you would provide to someone while dating or in a relationship, talk through it, and the other person would be able to put in context with their own experience and intuition - and of course could decide on their own if it's a deal breaker for them.

It would just be odd in my mind for the producers to go forward with a candidate knowing this could be a point of contention or liability issue down the road.

So still have no idea if this even happened or was an issue.

[stuckin60s]

As as Social Worker, Ashley would have seen the rough side of DV.  BUT she would also see the people who have changed for the better.  I agree, his handling of all the crap she has put out there: doesnt like his looks, cant say three nice things, wouldnt talk in the car ride on honeymoon, no conversations about anything, no interaction with her friends or family; shows he has patience and slow to anger.  Especially when they were fighting in the kitchen.  She said she didnt like being yelled at, we were not privy to those scenes if there were any.

 

If this is indeed him, it was a long time ago when he was much younger.  I think he should be given the benefit of doubt

 

 

[Evil Queen]

Yikes! That's awful. I hope no one did anything too stupid on your account. I had my FB hacked once but thankfully it was "just" flooding newsfeed with "Here's how to win a free iPhone" BS. Oh, and I had people actually leave me wall posts saying "you've been hacked, change your PW", from people who I usually think of as smart... obviously had I been signed on to FB I would have! A friend smart enough to text me let me know. Person Of Interest is one of my favorite shows on TV now (well, kind of on thanks to CBS being idiots...), I kind of live with "you are being watched" in my head when it comes to anything with an internet connection; it has advantages and disadvantages.

 

I haven't had anything bad happen thankfully from it but did worry about it at first because of the kind of person(s) it looked to have set it up. It sucks to be hacked as well. At least someone gave you the heads up on it. I think if you use SM its always good to watch how you are on it and what is posted. I don't really use any because I don't care for it but you always see people that do and because of things they post get in trouble with jobs/family/friends/etc. 

 

 

Thank you for your answer!

Wow, I'm just amazed how efficient this is! I knew about Las Vegas of course, but I thought it was just another thing to get tourists like casinos and cheap outlets, not a real way of doing it elsewhere in the US. 

 

I am not sure the time frame for where I am but when we got married we had to sign things before hand. I think we did it about a week before but we had the place we got married at handling everything for us. I know it varies from state to state though on how its handled. As is divorce. 

 

I really think that all the show participants should undergo a criminal history check (and perhaps they do). In my state it is mandatory if you are going to work or volunteer with children and some employers such as jewelry store owners require it so it is a simple routine process. It costs $25 and you go to a police station and get fingerprinted. The police run your prints in case you are in the system under a different name. They do a nationwide search of criminal records for any arrests and convictions.

 

I agree as well. This should have been done from the get go. If they are they either they just don't speak of it or they don't do a very good job on it. Of course things can go undetected if one has never been caught and charged with anything though.

[moonxyz]

Interesting that Sean and David are friends. But not surprising either as both love to play it up for the cameras.

 

Edited February 12, 2016 by moonxyz

[Gigi43]

Switching gears:

I really would love it confirmed (or denied) somehow if there was in fact a couple that dropped out as its been speculated. If so, that means there is a way to drop out? Deciding being on TV/getting paid isn't worth what it could do to your life, and/or really not having it in you to attempt to fake a relationship even though you first tried, giving up money and risking broken contract ramifications, would make these two people my favorites to have anything to do with the show at all without knowing anything more about them!

[sniglet]

So I did some more searching to try and corroborate some of the other pre-season rumors that were out there (http://starcasm.net/archives/335998).  I guess I wanted to either lend credence to some of them or to feel more comfortable about dismissing them; mainly, I just really like sleuthing this kind of stuff.  I found a judgment against a DN in Atlanta from a local law firm for $2300 plus $80 court costs.  I don't want to post the link to the case because it includes a home address for the defendant. 

 

I know this doesn't make him a criminal, or even a terrible person.  I've been behind financially in certain situations, too.  I just find it interesting that if a few of these rumors are true (or have the potential to be based on timelines and court cases), does that mean all of them could be true?  Either way, pairing any one with someone who has such a questionable history (if it's true) is a really crappy thing that the producers have done for the second season in a row.   
 

   

 

 

[qtpye]

Sean's handle is Silverfoxrn?  The silver fox nurse?  That type of information is gold.

[Jack Sampson]

I don't give a frog's fat ass what David did in AZ. He could have killed the pope and raped a dog and STILL be a better person than Ashley.

And all of her apparently worthless education makes her too stupid to realize that her "women's intuition" nonsense admits that she was a total bitch to David. "Well, yes, I was a robotic bitch, but I had a good reason! I have female superpowers, don't you know! I knew David got drunk once 8 years ago and had to appear in court over it. That's more than enough reason to be a standoffish bitch to a husband - then not tell him why - then bash him on SM when the audience doesn't fawn over me like my family and sick kids do."

[stuckin60s]

Sniglet, thank you for the link.  I read it and all i could see was unnamed and anonymous postings.  Could this be Ashleys family?  It was all over by December 2015?

[Nffftshewasgone]

Having trouble figuring out how to quote, but,

AMEN and LOL!

(what Jack Sampson said)

Edited February 12, 2016 by Nffftshewasgone

[sniglet]

Sniglet, thank you for the link.  I read it and all i could see was unnamed and anonymous postings.  Could this be Ashleys family?  It was all over by December 2015?

I have no idea who wrote the quote originally.  I just wanted to see if any of them were or could be true and it's been a slow couple of days at work.  There are 2 court cases that are searchable that match up to what the anonymous rumors have said, but nothing concrete like a mugshot.  Who knows.  I hope if this show continues that they get a little stricter with the vetting process.  As another poster said yesterday, if it's true, it's amazing that they can't find 6 people who have never been arrested to be on the show.