S12.E24: Reunion Part 3

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Sonja backed the wrong horse, which is why she was so critical of Ramona. She thought that Dorinda was going to win the battle (and who knows, maybe the show will boot Ramona), but as of right now, Ramona is still in and Dorinda isn't.

As for expecting some big blow up with Dorinda to explain why she got fired - I tend to believe that most of Dorinda's worst behavior was off-camera and directed towards production.  Dorinda is the type who kisses up and kicks down. So I am not surprised we didn't see a big blow up.

Seeing Barbara K last night reminded me how hellacious Dorinda was towards her, and it was the same strategy she used towards both Ramona and Tinsley. Her go-to insult to women to denigrate them is to slut-shame and accuse them of using sex to get ahead.  It's probably pretty deeply-seated in her psychology and is probably also some level of projection. 

And, what was wrong with Barbara K?  From what I saw, she was an accomplished woman who seemed nice to everyone.  So she said LuAnn couldn’t sing.  What’s wrong with that?  No one thinks LuAnn can sing.  Dorinda and her slut shaming.  Isn’t that how she got Richard?  Every dress she wore with him was down to her navel with her boobs out for display, even while with the Clintons. She’s such a hypocrite.  While she’s off the show, she should go and have a nose job.

[Ms Blue Jay]

6 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

 While she’s off the show, she should go and have a nose job.

Dorinda's face is one of the only nice things about her.

[Lady of nod]

Boo fucking hoo Dorinda. You had a bad year? This woman has been a nasty bitch for more than this current season. And are we supposed to feel sorry for her that her mansion flooded? She has an apt in NYC and I'm sure plenty of insurance. She can't be carefree HA. Wake up you psycho. There are people who don't even have one decent place to live, who work 3 jobs to feed their kids, or are sick with no access to good healthcare, or dying alone of a virus so contagious they can't have their love ones with them. But you had a bad year so that excuses your vicious behavior.

She is truly a very sick woman and I'm glad I'll never have to see her again. And while I'm at it, her treatment of and outrage at Tinsley was  really bordering on psychotic. It's so obvious how jealous she is of her. And accusing Tinsley of making her money lying on her back? WTF. Has Dorinda ever worked a day in her sad life? I doubt it. She married a rich man who bought her that mansion and supported her. Hypocrite.

I also find it interesting that she not only won't admit what a raging alcoholic she is but also  encourages Leah and Louann to drink.

Good riddance.

[Steph J]

5 hours ago, amarante said:

While the shows don't have written "lines" that are memorized

Except for that scene from last season when Dorinda and Sonja saw a sneak preview of The Hustle and then sat around raving about it.  That had to have been scripted.

[BrownBear2012]

21 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Boo fucking hoo Dorinda. You had a bad year? This woman has been a nasty bitch for more than this current season. And are we supposed to feel sorry for her that her mansion flooded? She has an apt in NYC and I'm sure plenty of insurance. She can't be carefree HA. Wake up you psycho. There are people who don't even have one decent place to live, who work 3 jobs to feed their kids, or are sick with no access to good healthcare, or dying alone of a virus so contagious they can't have their love ones with them. But you had a bad year so that excuses your vicious behavior.

She is truly a very sick woman and I'm glad I'll never have to see her again. And while I'm at it, her treatment of and outrage at Tinsley was  really bordering on psychotic. It's so obvious how jealous she is of her. And accusing Tinsley of making her money lying on her back? WTF. Has Dorinda ever worked a day in her sad life? I doubt it. She married a rich man who bought her that mansion and supported her. Hypocrite.

I also find it interesting that she not only won't admit what a raging alcoholic she is but also  encourages Leah and Louann to drink.

Good riddance.

Alcohlics never want to drink alone...the minute LuAnn finished her probation Dorinda was nagging her to start drinking again and telling her she wasn't an alcoholic. Enabling at its worst.

[BrownBear2012]

6 hours ago, janiema said:

I don’t think they are such a team anymore. During this season I definitely got the feeling that Ramona was just as done with Sonja’s shtick as most of the rest of us are. There seemed to be a pulling away and I think Sonja felt this too which is why she was going after Ramona.

At some point the old gals will have to go in order to bring fresh faces to the franchise. There's so much of Sonja and her failed businesses, Ramona with her 50 friends and LuAnn with her awful cabaret act and dreadful singing that one can take.

Edited September 26, 2020 by BrownBear2012

[BrownBear2012]

23 hours ago, escape said:

It just shows how easily manipulated Leah can be.  A sock puppet.  She's scared of Dorinda - who actually has not been that super cool to Leah.  She went in on her about the Tramp Stamp.  She cussed her out at the finale. 

Leah has got to be the Most Over Rated newcomer ever.  Of course she did hired a PR firm to plant fluff pieces on her - how she is a Fan Favorite.  Really? She hasn't help in the ratings.  A lot of viewers were turn off with her vulgar drunkenness.

Thank you for pointing out that these women utilize PR firms and the media to soften their image or to plug their business endeavors...none of this is organic. It's all engineered and well thought out by their "people"...wait for the build up next season for LuAnn's biography.

[Ms Blue Jay]

30 minutes ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Alcohlics never want to drink alone...the minute LuAnn finished her probation Dorinda was nagging her to start drinking again and telling her she wasn't an alcoholic. Enabling at its worst.

I agree that Dorinda is 100% an enabler but alcoholics drink alone all of the time!  Being alone does not prevent alcoholics from drinking.  Dorinda is just an asshole.  Also I do not think that Luann is an alcoholic.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[BrownBear2012]

3 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I agree that Dorinda is 100% an enabler but alcoholics drink alone all of the time!  Being alone does not prevent alcoholics from drinking.  Dorinda is just an asshole.  Also I do not think that Luann is an alcoholic.

Yes...they do drink alone but Dorinda seemed very anxious to get LuAnn off the wagon. LuAnn has a drinking problem...may be genetically predisposed to having an alcohol issue since her dad had alcohol issues. I'm not a substance abuse expert or counselor but I have a family member who has an alcohlol "issue" and had to get treatment. He, like LuAnn, would be belligerent and combative when he drank. All I know he is much better to be around and much healthier now that he has stopped drinking. Whether that makes him an alcoholic, I don't know. LuAnn seems so much better this season now that she's off the sauce. 

[BrownBear2012]

52 minutes ago, Steph J said:

Except for that scene from last season when Dorinda and Sonja saw a sneak preview of The Hustle and then sat around raving about it.  That had to have been scripted.

oh it was...that was promo for the movie and I'm sure they got some financial compensation for it. 

[albarino]

2 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

 

Boo fucking hoo Dorinda. You had a bad year? This woman has been a nasty bitch for more than this current season. And are we supposed to feel sorry for her that her mansion flooded? She has an apt in NYC and I'm sure plenty of insurance.

 

This resonated with me.  Yes, it can be a PITA but her house flooding is also an opportunity.  We built a house last year and (hadn't planned to do it) we had many decisions to make.  I assume some of her house was salvageable but even if not, she was able to pick out new cabinets, light fixtures, bathroom tiles, appliances, paint, finish, etc.  It really isn't that hard to do.  I was in the Air Force for a gazillion years so I had many opportunities to pare my belongings before each move.  If Richard's stuff in the basement was ruined by water damage, just pitch it.  Nobody wants it.  IF her 18,000 holiday decorations (pick your holiday), were ruined, Hannah is eternally thankful.

As an aside, I think millennials don't want or value the same stuff I do.  I used to take a winter indoor cycling class and I would always set my bike up next to a young married couple.  One day I mentioned  something about china (I have a lot of it) and they both looked at me and said they weren't interested in ever owning china.  So there you have it.

BTW, I'm sure it was a shock to have her extensive water damage but you pick up the pieces of your life and move on.  Aren't her mom and sister there? Why not have fun with them redoing your house?

ETA:  Her observation that John couldn't understand/didn't have the same level of responsibility, etc., ummm, I think he had a business to run (the kind with income and expenses, payroll and taxes) and I guess it wasn't going too well for him.  

She is a piece of work.  Clip.

Edited September 26, 2020 by albarino

[howiveaddict]

I think I know why Sonja was so upset at Ramona's party and her 50 friends.  Sonja said some of the women had been at her baby shower.  They were probably friends because she was a Morgan.  After the divorce, they probably dropped her like a hot potato.  Sonja is jealous that Ramona is friends with them now.  That's probably why she was on Dorida's side.  Ramona has that life after divorce, that Sonja can only dream about.

[BrownBear2012]

10 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I think the show kind of started out like this.  Back in the first season, many of the HW’s worked - Ramona, Bethany, the one that lived in Brooklyn (sorry name escapes me).  I think even Jill worked for her husband’s carpet shop?  But as with all these shows, the more time they’re on the less real they actually get.

Yes!  As I was reading your post, I was thinking the same exact thing!  Remember when Jill showed up on Scary Island and Beth was doing an impression of her with her really nasally annoying voice?  Now I find Beth 1000x more annoying than Jill ever was.  Even with how shitty this season was (literally and figuratively), I still don’t want Bethany back at all.

YES!!! Bethenny is toxic. She is truly a narcissist that is incapable of developing deep personal relationships. She also has such a nasty disposition and aggressive personality that she is most unlikable. Andy seems to be BFFs with her...if were up to him he would have back on in a heartbeat. 

[itsadryheat]

Now that we are getting a peak behind the curtain hiding the infamous fourth wall, my opinion is the puppet masters/writers/production  aren't doing a very good job. Maybe they should take some classes in creating an interesting show. Thinking about going back to see what Vicktor is doing on Y&R. Its been awhile. Used to be a daily regular, and never felt sick to my stomach after watching an episode. Dorinda and Rinna are vile and their behavior being tolerated and encouraged is what is wrong with the world. The only reason Dorinda is gone ,imo, is because she went into lawyer/lawsuit land. That she is flaunting her happy self on social media instead of hiding in shame says it all. She is not making the world nice.

Edited September 26, 2020 by itsadryheat

[amarante]

2 hours ago, Steph J said:

Except for that scene from last season when Dorinda and Sonja saw a sneak preview of The Hustle and then sat around raving about it.  That had to have been scripted.

They absolutely have scenes that are set up by the producers and asked to discuss certain things. All of the trips are planned and paid for by the producers. 
However they aren’t given lines to read from a script nor do the producers completely control what is happening in the same way that the Kardashians do. The housewives are given lots of free liquor and producers hope for havoc. The Kardashians only show what the Kardashians feel is favorable to their brand whereas the housewives have no control.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

I’d enjoy learning that Andy finished reading the print-out of Ramona’s texts to and from Dorinda after they wrapped, and saw something that was termination-worthy.

[EtheltoTillie]

2 hours ago, amarante said:

They absolutely have scenes that are set up by the producers and asked to discuss certain things. All of the trips are planned and paid for by the producers. 
However they aren’t given lines to read from a script nor do the producers completely control what is happening in the same way that the Kardashians do. The housewives are given lots of free liquor and producers hope for havoc. The Kardashians only show what the Kardashians feel is favorable to their brand whereas the housewives have no control.  

I have a friend who insists these shows are literally scripted, and I tell her it could not be so. These morons would not have the ability to read and memorize scripts and recite them verbatim. Besides you just couldn’t script some of the incidental action. 

[Bossa Nova]

21 hours ago, Chicklet said:

I want to hear about the production people who had complaints about  Dorinda. You know she had to be 10 times worse in person with "the little people" and there was no filmed proof. 

I wish they would spill the details.

Sorry to get off topic here but I am still waiting for some producer to spill the beans on what really happened at Scary Island (on St. John in the Virgin Islands) with Kelly Bensimon. And that was 10 years ago. Season 3 when Beth was pregnant.

Bethenny and others said it was 10 times worse than what we saw on camera, which is why they had to escort Kelly off the island that last night and get her home. 

Edited September 26, 2020 by Bossa Nova

[Hangin Out]

8 hours ago, albarino said:

This resonated with me.  Yes, it can be a PITA but her house flooding is also an opportunity.  We built a house last year and (hadn't planned to do it) we had many decisions to make.  I assume some of her house was salvageable but even if not, she was able to pick out new cabinets, light fixtures, bathroom tiles, appliances, paint, finish, etc.  It really isn't that hard to do.  I was in the Air Force for a gazillion years so I had many opportunities to pare my belongings before each move.  If Richard's stuff in the basement was ruined by water damage, just pitch it.  Nobody wants it.  IF her 18,000 holiday decorations (pick your holiday), were ruined, Hannah is eternally thankful.

As an aside, I think millennials don't want or value the same stuff I do.  I used to take a winter indoor cycling class and I would always set my bike up next to a young married couple.  One day I mentioned  something about china (I have a lot of it) and they both looked at me and said they weren't interested in ever owning china.  So there you have it.

BTW, I'm sure it was a shock to have her extensive water damage but you pick up the pieces of your life and move on.  Aren't her mom and sister there? Why not have fun with them redoing your house?

ETA:  Her observation that John couldn't understand/didn't have the same level of responsibility, etc., ummm, I think he had a business to run (the kind with income and expenses, payroll and taxes) and I guess it wasn't going too well for him.  

She is a piece of work.  Clip.

Her house should be her only problem.  Her problem was getting drunk and breaking her foot or whatever which held her up.  A person could always get money from somewhere, get help with a house, etc, etc.  The only thing worse in ones life as far as I’m concerned is a sick kid or a fatal sickness you can’t control.  The rest is garbage.  Her problem was not having a sugar daddy and being sloshed all the time.  The house is a lot of trouble?  Sell the thing, move on and shut up.  Overwhelmed my ass.

[Sweet-tea]

2 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Sorry to get off topic here but I am still waiting for some producer to spill the beans on what really happened at Scary Island (St. John Virgin Islands) with Kelly Bensimon. And that was 10 years ago. Season 3 when Beth was pregnant.

Bethenny and others said it was 10 times worse than what we saw on camera, which is why they had to escort Kelly off the island that last night and get her home. 

I've always wondered what was really going on with Kelly. Was she on something? I can't remember if she was drinking a lot. Maybe pills? I don't know but it was bizarre. 

I think some of the women on these HW shows are mixing pills and alcohol, which is scary. And not just Sonja's "water" pills. 

[SweetieDarling]

9 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

I think I know why Sonja was so upset at Ramona's party and her 50 friends.  Sonja said some of the women had been at her baby shower.  They were probably friends because she was a Morgan.  After the divorce, they probably dropped her like a hot potato.  Sonja is jealous that Ramona is friends with them now.  That's probably why she was on Dorida's side.  Ramona has that life after divorce, that Sonja can only dream about. 

I think, after Ramona's divorce, Sonja thought they would take their "Lucy and Ethel" schtick on the road and be social sidekicks. I think she may feel that Ramona abandoned her for her "new friends". I think she wants to have the social life and connections that Ramona does. Maybe Ramona needed time to find her own drummer to beat her drum to, or maybe she feels that Sonja becomes too messy to bring around her Hamptons friends, I dunno, but I think that might be behind some of the resentment ("We're your real friends, not them") Sonja seemed to feel this year.

 

[pasdetrois]

The shows are heavily scripted in the sense that the participants have storylines and, after all of these years, know exactly what production wants in each scenario. When they produce crocodile tears, earnestly proclaim "I love you," rip off their clothing, pretend that they are just stopping by a location, attack a fellow cast member over and over, talk to a family member about another cast member...they automatically know the best way to get the camera's attention. Leah knew this coming in.

The housewives are pandering to production in order to keep their positions. It's a form of scripting because it's not real.

I'd say that 95% of the scenarios are scripted in this way. Dorinda's meltdown is a rare, truly realistic situation, yet even that is scripted in the sense that production used it to pull ratings. Everyone knew she would do it, and everyone had their own planned reactions.

[Ms Blue Jay]

11 hours ago, albarino said:

As an aside, I think millennials don't want or value the same stuff I do.  I used to take a winter indoor cycling class and I would always set my bike up next to a young married couple.  One day I mentioned  something about china (I have a lot of it) and they both looked at me and said they weren't interested in ever owning china.  So there you have it.

It's also about what Millennials can or cannot afford!  :). It's not that we don't value things necessarily, but choices have to be made.

[EtheltoTillie]

2 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

The shows are heavily scripted in the sense that the participants have storylines and, after all of these years, know exactly what production wants in each scenario. When they produce crocodile tears, earnestly proclaim "I love you," rip off their clothing, pretend that they are just stopping by a location, attack a fellow cast member over and over, talk to a family member about another cast member...they automatically know the best way to get the camera's attention. Leah knew this coming in.

The housewives are pandering to production in order to keep their positions. It's a form of scripting because it's not real.

I'd say that 95% of the scenarios are scripted in this way. Dorinda's meltdown is a rare, truly realistic situation, yet even that is scripted in the sense that production used it to pull ratings. Everyone knew she would do it, and everyone had their own planned reactions.

I agree with this.  That's what I've read, and it makes sense.  Production also sets up events and each person apparently has her own producer.  I think it's story telling not scripting.

BTW, I got into this discussion with my friend on this the other day because she thought that Ramona's malapropisms were scripted.  I said that I cannot believe that is true.  They are not telling Ramona "be sure you say 'diflect' and 'ordacity' and 'white rice,'" to name just a few.  How would they even come up with those?

Here's a sampling: 

 

Edited September 26, 2020 by GussieK
I made my own malapropism (typo)!

[mostlylurking]

18 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Okay ladies, c'mon now.  Let's keep this in perspective.  They were f-i-l-m-i-n-g.  This was all done on camera.

That’s true, but Ramona acts like an asshole while they’re filming all the time (they all do to be fair). So I don’t think an act of kindness would solely be for the cameras. Plus as others have pointed out, various cast members have said she stays in touch and keeps up the friendships even when they’re not filming. 

[Hangin Out]

15 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Dorinda's face is one of the only nice things about her.

Yeah, that was a nasty jab, but I’m so disgusted with the way she treated people, I had to find something about her. 😔

[Hangin Out]

16 hours ago, ChitChat said:

Many of us knew exactly what you were trying to spell!!  Heh.  We can read between the lines, typos, abbreviations, and the like!!  😉

There was a time when I was afraid to go on this site as many are.  Theresa nice mixture of people on here .. doctors,lawyers, writers, etc., but at the end of the day, we are all one who love to snark on our favorite shows.  So who cares who can’t spell .. come on down!  Lol🥰.  Everyone loves these crazy shows.

[Hangin Out]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

It's also about what Millennials can or cannot afford!  :). It's not that we don't value things necessarily, but choices have to be made.

I have three sets .. one a beautiful Christmas set which I don’t do Christmas anymore.  My girls have also, but buy pretty paper plates now, and just throw them away for less work.  Stemware too.  That was the first thing you got when you got married.  Now, anything goes.  Also, beautiful linen tablecloths my Mother embroidered.  They don’t want them.  I miss setting a nice table with candles, etc.

[Chit Chat]

15 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

So who cares who can’t spell .. come on down!  Lol🥰.  Everyone loves these crazy shows.

I appreciate people overlooking my punctuation errors!  I'll tell you though, some of the best posts come from the typos.  There was one on the old TWoP forums that was supposed to read "the fire of a thousand SUNS," but someone posted "the fire of a thousand NUNS!"  We lovingly reposted that over and over because it turned out so funny, and the original poster was cool with it.  

[Hangin Out]

2 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I appreciate people overlooking my punctuation errors!  I'll tell you though, some of the best posts come from the typos.  There was one on the old TWoP forums that was supposed to read "the fire of a thousand SUNS," but someone posted "the fire of a thousand NUNS!"  We lovingly reposted that over and over because it turned out so funny, and the original poster was cool with it.  

I just spit out my water.  Love it.

[Chit Chat]

7 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

I have three sets .. one a beautiful Christmas set which I don’t do Christmas anymore.  My girls have also, but buy pretty paper plates now, and just throw them away for less work.  Stemware too.  That was the first thing you got when you got married.  Now, anything goes.  Also, beautiful linen tablecloths my Mother embroidered.

I absolutely love china sets.  I don't have a set that I picked out, but I've got my grandmother's and it brings back so many good memories.  It makes me sad to see so much of this stuff in antique stores knowing that a person's family didn't want it, or didn't have room for it.  I've always wanted a Christmas set, but since our family has dwindled down, it wouldn't be practical.  I would have several china cabinets full of beautiful china if I had the room and the money!!  😉

Edited September 26, 2020 by ChitChat

[Hangin Out]

I have to go visit my two friends now .. QVC and HSN and order some stuff I don’t need, hahaha.  Good thing I do the bills.

[Hangin Out]

9 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I absolutely love china sets.  I don't have a set that I picked out, but I've got my grandmother's and it brings back so many good memories.  It makes me sad to see so much of this stuff in antique stores knowing that a person's family didn't want it, or didn't have room for it.  I've always wanted a Christmas set, but since our family has dwindled down, it wouldn't be practical.  I would have several china cabinets full of beautiful china if I had the room and the money!!  😉

I have the Pfaltzgraff heavy white set with the Christmas tree on each piece, the complete set.  Gorgeous.  I’ll give it to my Grandaughters hoping they will use it.  You can probably get on e-bay for cheap.

[RedDelicious]

Wow Ramona’s voice was so much softer in the earlier seasons. Now it sounds like a cheese grater.

I love china and crystal too. I call it the dish affliction. My oldest sister got married in the early 90s when people still registered for sterling and I always wanted my own. I found a ridiculous deal on eBay from a seller that mostly sold car repair parts and electronic components. I think it they found it in a storage unit or something because I paid peanuts for it and it’s service for 12 😳

[Anne Thrax]

On 9/24/2020 at 7:14 PM, WaltersHair said:

Has this been confirmed by Bravo though? The Magical Elves don't usually make someone who is going out the door look all that good at the reunions. /Denise from RHOBH

Andy didn't want to poke the bear (as Dorinda refers to herself).  I think Dorinda was told she has to get professional help in order to be asked back.  Andy, knowing that Dorinda is never wrong, knows that she won't get professional help and thus has nothing to worry about when he extends to her the hope that she "might be back".  This way, Dorinda feels like she hasn't been made a fool of (which would cause a nuclear explosion in the Berkshires that would never be forgotten) so she leaves Andy alone, doesn't try to never miss a chance to make derisive public remarks about him or the show, and makes it possible for her to become a sleeping dog who's unlikely to cause trouble.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Anne Thrax

[Chit Chat]

1 hour ago, RedDelicious said:

I love china and crystal too. I call it the dish affliction.

Did we ever see any kind of fine china collection at Blue Stone Manor?   Seems like we saw some at Sonja's townhouse.  I would think that they all have a set of beautiful china, except for Leah because obviously she would misunderstand and think they were asking about her vagina rather than a set of china.  😉  

[Pattycake2]

I thought it was interesting that on wwhl Bethenny said that she advised Dorinda on how to act at the reunion, but Dorinda did the opposite.  Here’s Richard’s obit. https://legcy.co/2IBw1MZ

[Anne Thrax]

On 9/24/2020 at 7:21 PM, WaltersHair said:

Must have missed that because I don't follow any of them. I've seen the page six article.

 

Andy's announcement:  https://www.allabouttrh.com/2020/09/10/rhony-season-13-andy-cohen-talks-dorinda-medley-exit-and-future-return/

Dorinda's statement:  https://www.allabouttrh.com/2020/09/03/rhony-season-13-cast-dorinda-medley-exit-luann-de-lesseps-ramona-singer-chopping-block/

[Anne Thrax]

On 9/25/2020 at 7:45 AM, Silver Bells said:

I’ll bet none of them bother with her now, except Bethenny.  Why?  I have no idea, unless she thinks she can fix her.  Supposidely, now she has a new love interest on the burner.  God help him, whoever the fool is.  She’s got a bad reputation now.  

If Dorinda has met someone, you can be sure she'll be on her best behavior and love bomb the hell out of him until he becomes more comfortable and relaxed around her.  Then she'll slowly, little by little, become contemptuous of his imperfections.  That is, unless he's rich.  Then she'll continue with the love bombs.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Anne Thrax

[Chit Chat]

Thanks for the links to those articles, Anne Thrax.   It was reported there that Ramona is nervous about her future with the show and that she relies on the show for her income.  I have no doubt that she's concerned, but I really do think that Ramona will land on her feet if she is cut from the show.  With all of her supposed connections, I can't imagine that she wouldn't find something else to do.  She seems to be a go-getter, so I think she'll be okay.  However, I don't want to see her off of the show.  I find her entertaining.  

[Anne Thrax]

On 9/25/2020 at 10:54 AM, tvfanatic13 said:

I think that in some way, Dorinda knew going into the reunion that she was in somewhat deep shit, I also think that by her saying that she should have taken the season off because she was fragile, it would get her off the hook. Andy was OVER her. Goodbye, Dorinda! (tm Ken Todd)

I think Dorinda was absolutely taken aside and given a lecture on how to behave at the reunion -- which is probably why Dorinda kept the scream-spitting and accusations to a minimum.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Anne Thrax

[Anne Thrax]

On 9/25/2020 at 12:20 PM, ChitChat said:

Sonja seems to be jealous of Ramona's "50+" friendships.  I think she wants to be her one and only best, best friend!  Why can't Ramona have a lot of friendships/acquaintances?  If she's out and about every night as Dorinda claims, then she's bound to have a lot of people she sees socially that she considers friends.  It's not her fault that the other sad sacks sit around bitching about their lives.  I admire Ramona for getting back out there and enjoying life post-Mario.  Yeah, she's a loon sometimes, but I think she has a good heart - misguided at times, but not malicious.

If having a social life is her thing, then good for her!  I am a homebody, but I can appreciate those who like to have a social life, but if I lived in NYC and had money, and was single, then I would enjoy getting out and seeing what fun things there are to do there.  

ETA:  I really was expecting some kind of blow-up with Dorinda on last night's episode.  I'm still wondering at what point did Andy & Bravo decide to cut her loose?  There has to be so much more footage that we weren't privy too.  I'd love for the producer and behind-the-scenes folks to spill the beans.  I mean she was completely out-of-line with Tinsley, but I guess I was expecting the other shoe to drop last night.  Instead, they all piled on Ramona.  Andy seemed to be enjoying that, in my opinion.

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[Bossa Nova]

8 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I've always wondered what was really going on with Kelly. Was she on something? I can't remember if she was drinking a lot. Maybe pills? I don't know but it was bizarre. 

I think some of the women on these HW shows are mixing pills and alcohol, which is scary. And not just Sonja's "water" pills. 

I am convinced Kelly B.  is on the spectrum and undiagnosed (at that time).

Sure, she was drinking and who knows what else on Scary Island. But those were to help her cope and navigate a foreign situation for her, and a 'tell' that she was undiagnosed. 

There were many, many on camera cues that season (Sea. 3) and her first season (Sea. 2) . I wrote about it at length on this forum - way back. 

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[Anne Thrax]

16 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Now that we are getting a peak behind the curtain hiding the infamous fourth wall, my opinion is the puppet masters/writers/production  aren't doing a very good job. Maybe they should take some classes in creating an interesting show. Thinking about going back to see what Vicktor is doing on Y&R. Its been awhile. Used to be a daily regular, and never felt sick to my stomach after watching an episode. Dorinda and Rinna are vile and their behavior being tolerated and encouraged is what is wrong with the world. The only reason Dorinda is gone ,imo, is because she went into lawyer/lawsuit land. That she is flaunting her happy self on social media instead of hiding in shame says it all. She is not making the world nice.

I'm not on Instagram or any of those other sites -- what has she been posting?

[Ms Blue Jay]

2 minutes ago, Anne Thrax said:

I'm not on Instagram or any of those other sites -- what has she been posting?

For example. 

[Anne Thrax]

3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

I absolutely love china sets.  I don't have a set that I picked out, but I've got my grandmother's and it brings back so many good memories.  It makes me sad to see so much of this stuff in antique stores knowing that a person's family didn't want it, or didn't have room for it.  I've always wanted a Christmas set, but since our family has dwindled down, it wouldn't be practical.  I would have several china cabinets full of beautiful china if I had the room and the money!!  😉

I know this is off topic, but my grandmother used to sell fine crystal and china.  When she died she had 8 sets of beautiful china to pass on with lots of the matching serving pieces as well.  My mother took the one I wanted, and closer (meaning physical distance from her house) family members took almost all the rest, so I was left with a fairly large set of a run of the mill pattern that none of the others wanted.  I used it for Thanksgiving dinner several years in a row.  I recently offered it to my daughter if she wanted it because she has a lovely home and does entertain some, but she turned it down.  Times have changed.

[Anne Thrax]

30 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

For example. 

Thanks for this, Ms. Blue Jay.  I know I miss out on a lot because I don't subscribe -- I spend enough time watching the shows and commenting on Primetimer, I don't need more distractions - LOL.

EDIT:  Of course she's got her hand on a martini glass and her boobs are on display.

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[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, Pattycake2 said:

I thought it was interesting that on wwhl Bethenny said that she advised Dorinda on how to act at the reunion, but Dorinda did the opposite.  Here’s Richard’s obit. https://legcy.co/2IBw1MZ

Was Bethenny the one that wrote Dorinda's apology to Tinsley? It seemed memorized. 

[Happy Camper]

2 hours ago, Anne Thrax said:

I'm not on Instagram or any of those other sites -- what has she been posting?

Well I have checked in on her stories. She's either high or drunk. Even first thing in the morning. Someone (mayber her BFF Bethenny should be getting her into rehab)

[Happy Camper]

3 hours ago, Pattycake2 said:

I thought it was interesting that on wwhl Bethenny said that she advised Dorinda on how to act at the reunion, but Dorinda did the opposite.  Here’s Richard’s obit. https://legcy.co/2IBw1MZ

As much as I cannot stand Dorinda, I was very touched by this from Richard's obituary:

An avid sailor, Richard was often referred to as "the wonderful compass" for the guidance and direction he always provided to family and friends. In keeping with nautical terminology, he also nicknamed his second wife Dorinda, "my true north."

How beautiful! I would use that same phrase to describe my husband. That brought tears to my eyes and I can see how Dorinda must miss him.

Edited September 27, 2020 by Happy Camper