Season 19 Spoiler Thread

[NoWhammies]

I like Becca. She seems….normal.

 

I totally believe that the cut to Jade after the other gal saying something about women with loose morals was intentional. I think they do give a nod to people who are spoiled from time to time, and this was one of them.

 

Does it seem like we're getting more shots of crew this year than ever before?

 

I like Jade. Of course, I don't have a lot of problems with nude pictures or porn particularly - it's a personal choice that she made. I'd be more concerned about stuff I read about her being a nasty con woman that would worry me. If so, she's a pretty good actress and accomplished at hiding it.

[looksee]

From what I've seen of Becca, I think she'd be good as the next Bachelorette. She does seem nice and normal - and not a complete ditz (I's looking at yous Ashley I and Kale's mom)

[lulee]

From what I've seen of Becca, I think she'd be good as the next Bachelorette. She does seem nice and normal - and not a complete ditz (I's looking at yous Ashley I and Kale's mom)

I hope not - Becca seems great, but I think the show would be so gross about having a v-card-carrying Bachelorette, They'd play it up way more than for Sean.

 

Someone posted in the media thread that the earrings Jade received are worth 100K. Maybe the producers "encouraged" the sisters to pick her to keep her happy about going along with any *shocking revelations* later in the season. If she wants a career in entertainment, whatever type, this show could give her much more attention than if her past is only leaked on WetPaint or whatever site.

[looksee]

I hope not - Becca seems great, but I think the show would be so gross about having a v-card-carrying Bachelorette, They'd play it up way more than for Sean.

Oh man good point! She does seem quite nonchalant about it, so maybe she won't play it up for them?? but just to be on the safe side - I take back what I said!

 

and OMG those earings are worth $100K??? *FLOORS*

[Wings]

Oh man good point! She does seem quite nonchalant about it, so maybe she won't play it up for them?? but just to be on the safe side - I take back what I said!

 

and OMG those earings are worth $100K??? *FLOORS*

 

 

The article listed the other jewelry she borrowed.  It is poorly written. No earrings, just the question of "so how much were they?"

 

So how much did those earrings actually cost? Well each strand was set with 25 carats for a price of $100,000. And that’s not all the bling Jade wore. She also paired her gown with a diamond strand necklace set with 50 carats of round brilliant stones — a retail price of $350,000. And a diamond-and-platinum 50-carat bracelet, which had the heftiest price tag — $550,000. For those of you who are good at math, that’s a total carat count of 125 — and $1 million worth of jewels! (Get a closer look at the pieces below.)

[NikSac]

Oh man good point! She does seem quite nonchalant about it, so maybe she won't play it up for them?? but just to be on the safe side - I take back what I said!

 

and OMG those earings are worth $100K??? *FLOORS*

 

I always wonder where the valuations really come from though. The cynical side of me thinks it's some kind of conspiracy between the insurance companies and the jewelry appraisers. After all they can charge a lot more to insure a ring that's appraised at $50k or something... even if when the person goes to sell it, it sells for $10k tops.

[Padma]

Keeping Becca till F2 could be very smart on Chris' part. Whitney would know she is a virgin and would not think they (or perhaps Becca, since unlike Ashley, her "status" seems related to some kind of principled thought) would "do it" at F2 of a television show. Could be a nice comfortable evening together and be very reassuring to Whitney.

 

re: Jade. She seems nice and quiet and kind of sweet-natured. Am I right that RS said she was in soft core porn? Or did she just pose nude for something (in which case, big deal, since they made the women do that for one season of this show and it wasn't for art--nor did they earn money for it.) I'm curious about her story. I would have guessed Ashley was the one with the backstory, but..no. She's the one who's a virgin! (Did you know?)

 

I was surprised how much Whitney looks like his sisters. She'll fit right in.

[Wings]

I always wonder where the valuations really come from though. The cynical side of me thinks it's some kind of conspiracy between the insurance companies and the jewelry appraisers. After all they can charge a lot more to insure a ring that's appraised at $50k or something... even if when the person goes to sell it, it sells for $10k tops.

 

 

Scroll to the post I made at the same time, it is just above yours.  

[Mabinogia]

She's the one who's a virgin! (Did you know?)

 

OMG what? Ashley's a virgin! Did I get up to go the bathroom or get a snack all fifty two times she mentioned it? oops. lol

 

Jade is the last one I would have thought did any kind of porn. She seems so very average to me.

 

It is an interesting idea he would take the other virgin to final two so there is no doubt about his fantasy suite fidelity. It would actually be a smart move on his part. I can't think of any other reason she makes it that far since she's been so far under the radar that I still don't know who she is, only that some random chick popped Ashley's bubble by saying a 20-something virgin isn't the second coming Ashley thinks it is.

[Wings]

She's the one who's a virgin! (Did you know?)

 

OMG what? Ashley's a virgin! Did I get up to go the bathroom or get a snack all fifty two times she mentioned it? oops. lol

 

Jade is the last one I would have thought did any kind of porn. She seems so very average to me.

 

It is an interesting idea he would take the other virgin to final two so there is no doubt about his fantasy suite fidelity. It would actually be a smart move on his part. I can't think of any other reason she makes it that far since she's been so far under the radar that I still don't know who she is, only that some random chick popped Ashley's bubble by saying a 20-something virgin isn't the second coming Ashley thinks it is.

 

 

That is a good point.  Very safe F2 so Whitney will know for sure that all is OK.    He also admitted in an interview that he said the words I love you.  He is a rule breaker that one.  :>)

 

Jade didn't do porn.  Risque photos and a very nice video just showing her beautiful naked body, no suggestive pose, she stands as the camera moves around here. 

Edited January 27, 2015 by wings707

[Mabinogia]

Ah, thanks wings707, that makes more sense.

[MsPH]

Jade didn't do porn.  Risque photos and a very nice video just showing her beautiful naked body, no suggestive pose, she stands as the camera moves around here. 

 

In the Playboy one I saw she was first stripping, then writhing around both standing up and lying down on some rug as well as fondling her surgically enhanced chest, so I would call it suggestive.

[leighdear]

Whitney didn't have to worry about Chris sleeping with Becca in Bali, but what about Kaitlyn?   He could have "plowed her fields" thoroughly.  We know Andi let Chris go before the overnight, but Chris didn't let Kaitlyn go beforehand.  She was eliminated at the rose ceremony following the 3rd overnight.

 

Jade has plenty of leg-spread photos out there, showing that she has a VERY good waxer.   Most guys simply don't want their fiancée's genitals on full display across the internet. 

Edited January 28, 2015 by leighdear

[Wings]

I missed these links on Jade when doing a search a long time ago.  Still it isn't porn.  I really don't care what she did, I really like her.  

[backformore]

I missed these links on Jade when doing a search a long time ago.  Still it isn't porn.  I really don't care what she did, I really like her.

I guess opinions of what constitutes porn can differ.

But pornography by definition includes photos of sex organs or acts for the purpose of arousing erotic feelings. Yeah, looks like porn.

There doesn't have to be video of a sex act to be considered pornography.

[Padma]

I guess opinions of what constitutes porn can differ.

But pornography by definition includes photos of sex organs or acts for the purpose of arousing erotic feelings. Yeah, looks like porn.

There doesn't have to be video of a sex act to be considered pornography.

Yeah, it sounds like she was much more committed to this as a "career" than just a one time thing for a lark. Also makes her look like a total fake with the "I'm a sweet girl from (little town) then Omaha then Los Angeles (it's so hard to get to know people here!)" and "I model clothing on the internet and have my own organic cosmetic line." I liked her well enough but sounds like she did more than "model" and is not just tacky imo, but is a big phony, too. (But--how funny the sisters chose her as the Cinderella for Chris!)

[Bugs Meany]

I missed these links on Jade when doing a search a long time ago.  Still it isn't porn.

 

Then what's Hustler or Penthouse? There doesn't need to be a 2nd (or 3rd, or 4th...) person to make it porn.

[leighdear]

We went through all this "Is it or isn't it porn"? back in November when Reality Steve broke the details about Jade.... *LOL*

[shok]

It is an interesting idea he would take the other virgin to final two so there is no doubt about his fantasy suite fidelity.

 

Depends on what your idea of fidelity is. Virgins aren't necessarily inexperienced and prudish. Years ago some of the best mutual sex I had was with a religious goodie-two-shoes guy whose only taboo was actual intercourse. Ask Bill Clinton about fidelity. ;)

[KR Vermont]

Just because you go into the FS as a virgin doesn't mean you'll necessarily come out it as one. ;)  Joking aside, I don't know if Becca said she's waiting until marriage or just hasn't met a good guy or whatnot, that's cool, especially in contrast to the way Ashley I has been talking up her own virginity. As others have mentioned, there's more to it than intercourse and if I made it to F2 and knew the other woman is a virgin it still might not matter much, as there could be all sorts of intimacy going on ("fiancee type things" as Nick said) right before/after my FS time that still would be icky to watch unfold on the finale, regardless of forewarning...but it's a moot point for me, as I would have zero desire to be on this show. Free booze and a mansion full of gal pals holds no allure. :)  

[MsPH]

This bit from Sharleen's FLARE recap made me laugh out loud:

 

 

3. Jade, 28: It was not at all surprising that Jade received the highly-coveted Cinderella (cross-marketing, much?) one-on-one, awarded by Chris’ three discerning sisters. Yes, she’s very sweet and demure, but she’s articulate. Best of all, she’s modest. She seemed almost embarrassed by all the attention she received, yet never ungrateful.

 

http://www.flare.com/celebrity/entertainment/sharleen-joynt-on-the-bachelor-episode-4/

[lulee]

Is Sharleen trolling us?

[truthaboutluv]

No I'm sure she meant it since she said she avoids all spoilers about the season while she's recapping. Now granted Bachelor Nation talks and she's still very close to Kelly and Andi from her season so it seems hard to believe she hasn't heard something. However she seemed to adore Nick last season and was slightly surprised by the end and Andi's her good friend so she may truly be spoiler free. 

Edited January 28, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[Mu Shu]

Whitney didn't have to worry about Chris sleeping with Becca in Bali, but what about Kaitlyn? He could have "plowed her fields" thoroughly. We know Andi let Chris go before the overnight, but Chris didn't let Kaitlyn go beforehand. She was eliminated at the rose ceremony following the 3rd overnight.

Jade has plenty of leg-spread photos out there, showing that she has a VERY good waxer. Most guys simply don't want their fiancée's genitals on full display across the internet.

Well, I'm screwed then. I wouldn't call what Jade does hardcore, and she can still be a shy person outside of work. However, I can see a guy not being thrilled about her career path if he's thinking marriage.

How is Becca being a virgin an advantage for Whitney? That's assuming Whit gives it up in the FS, and I think she's calculating enough to not do so. Ugh, just typing FS makes me feel soiled. So much squickier than Jades career.

[Lamb18]

Over on the RS site, there's a comment poster that supposedly has some inside info on Jade, alleging among other things: 

Jade is a manipulative psychopath.  She has stolen from homes in town, been engaged (for housing and money purposes at the time) and broken it off right before the wedding. She ratted local Gering kids out for drinking at her party only to relieve herself of another minor in possession charge. She has a boyfriend who she used to get the in with playboy, and before she left Facebook, she said, “I’m doing something big!” We could have only guessed what evil she was up to this time. A wolf in Sherpa clothing, she stole from people, used people for housing and bounced checks all over town. I would like to say that this is not a “true Nebraska girl”.

I copied this over from page 3 of this Spoiler thread.  There is lots more about Jade on that page, including her arrest record, but I think this is pretty condemning.  If this is all true, I could see her as being the type of person who can come across as sweet and innocent and then con someone out of a lot of money. 

[Former Nun]

Then what's Hustler or Penthouse?

 

 

Simply magazines with some tasteful photos, some raunchy photos...and in the case of Playboy, some fine writing and critiques.  Not porn.

[Mu Shu]

Has anything been said about Jade having a child?   Her Playboy video or wannabe shows implants, lots of thigh bruising, and what appears to be a c section scar. 

[Rhondinella]

We went through all this "Is it or isn't it porn"? back in November when Reality Steve broke the details about Jade.... *LOL*

 

 

Yes. Yes we did.  So let's please move on here.  Let's just agree to say definitions of "porn" will differ.  Jade has indeed done nude photos and videos but none where she's actually performing sexual acts (that I've heard of).  You can make of that what you will, but there's no point in debating it.  Thank you.

[chocolatine]

Has anything been said about Jade having a child?   Her Playboy video or wannabe shows implants, lots of thigh bruising, and what appears to be a c section scar.

 

 

This is pure speculation, but she could have gotten pregnant as a teenager and given the baby up for adoption. Of the hundreds of women who have been on the show, statistically that's likely to have happened to a few of them.

[Hpmec]

The Bachelor producers vet the contestants pretty carefully. Each no doubt undergoes a thorough background check. So they knew all about Jade's past and brought her on board anyway in order to create a storyline they had never used before. Girl with checkered past buffalos naive farmboy and his sisters and advances pretty far in the game. Would bet big that the sisters were strongly encourged to choose her for the Cinderella date after she fed them all that bs. She's only there for the exposure (no pun intended) anyway. It will be fun to watch her real modeling career exposed and Chris's shocked reaction before he gives her the boot.

Edited January 29, 2015 by Hpmec

[Rhondinella]

I agree with all of that.  Although I do have to admit I was pretty surprised by Jade's "aw shucks, I'm just a quiet plan jane country girl" demeanor last week.  I did not expect that at all knowing what we know about her.  So I have to wonder if that was an act for the cameras (or compelled by the producers) or if she really is that way.  I mean, there's nothing that says a quiet, shy person can't bare all for Playboy, so maybe my assumptions about her personality were wrong, but it certainly does play against type.

[Mu Shu]

Having watched the Playboy video, I can tell Jade was really uncomfortable and awkward doing it.    She's either playing a hell of a part, or she's really shy.     She had to know her past would be dragged up, and that may be her  end game. 

[Hpmec]

Given her arrest record and raunchy photoshoots, I think it's safe to say that Jade's wholesome girl from Nebraska routine is an act. Actually, she's reasonably convincing, and, with the right agent, might be able to land some parts that don't require that she reveal hers. I hope her stint on the bachelor helps.

Edited January 30, 2015 by Hpmec

[truthaboutluv]

As of right now, if I had to take a guess, I'd say Kaitlyn will be chosen as the next Bachelorette. According to spoilers she's 3rd right, that seems to be the lucky number for picking the next Bachelor(ette). Sorry Britt, if her goal was to be the next Bachelorette, right now I don't see it happening.

 

She's kind of fading away, there was the whole tension between them last week and then she eliminates herself at final six. Kaitlyn is beautiful, funny, doesn't seem to take herself too seriously and has a big personality that after the dullness of Chris may be a welcome gift. Then again, sometimes the producers don't go with the obvious or "favorite" so they may just choose Britt after all. 

Edited January 30, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[MsPH]

But who would want to date Britt after learning she doesn't shower?

[leighdear]

Didn't they all get hosed down after the mud run?  Water from a hose is still water!  *LOL*

[Padma]

Didn't they all get hosed down after the mud run?  Water from a hose is still water!  *LOL*

They could plan every challenge around having the Bachelorette thrown (literally) into some water-based activity! 

 

ETA: I've never seen a TBette as successfully deceptive as Jade. Like Sharleen, I totally buy her "I'm a sweet, innocent girl from the Midwest" act--not porn (imo) actress and con artist. I guess that's the quality you -do- need as a successful con artist. But maybe this show will help her break into show business. Seems she could have a future, at least on soap operas.

Edited January 30, 2015 by Padma

[Bugs Meany]

But who would want to date Britt after learning she doesn't shower?

 

This guy. She's too pretty to produce any kind of odor.

 

TBette is still her gig to lose, btw. Kaitlyn is attractive (beautiful is a stretch) but she'd suffer the same fate Ashley Hebert did: all of her suitors will have signed up to vie for Britt. Guaranteed, 100 percent.

[truthaboutluv]

While Britt is definitely beautiful, the biggest reason I'm picking Kaitlyn as of now (again the season still has many episodes to go so that could change), is that I feel like Britt is sort of fading into the background. The difference with Ashley and the whole deal about most of the guys hoping it had been Emily (which never made sense to me since Brad had picked Emily so I never figured why the guys would think she was the Bachelorette, unless it was all bullshit) is that Emily had a huge presence in Brad's season. She made it to the end, was his pick, we heard ad nauseum about Ricky's death, etc. 

 

So far, I'm not seeing that with Britt. She had a big presence in the first episode but the last couple ones she's sort of gotten lost in the crowd, only being picked for group dates, where there's barely any one on one time shown with her and Chris and we really haven't learn much about her. I am actually genuinely surprised and baffled that Britt hasn't gotten a one on one yet considering she got the first impression rose. I would think Chris, who swears he's so serious about this, would have wanted to spend some alone time with the person who first caught his attention to see if there's truly something there. Instead she's just kind of there and every once in awhile pops up to make out with him, until this past episode of course, where she almost didn't get a rose for questioning Chris' actions.

 

On the flipside, Kaitlyn's getting a lot of camera time,  ITM's, focus on her personality, showing her to be funny, a guy's kind of girl but still beautiful and sexy. I can definitely see guys being into her. However, who knows, maybe Brit will have a one on one this coming week and my opinion will change entirely. 

Edited January 30, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[lulee]

I think Britt's departure will be dramatic and we'll get a lot of info about how they are/n't positioning her for the B'ette based on that. Her conversation with Chris got people talking and it could help burnish her "right reasons" credentials -- she's not just an actress using this as a stepping stone -- see that talk she had with Chris - clearly she's there for the right reasons. And that could help her for the B'ette.

 

I don't know how well I can predict these things though. The show has picked several rerun contestants that I wouldn't have (e.g., Jason, Juan Pablo, Deanna).

[Wings]

Britt has fallen out of favor with the viewers since her chat with Chris.  But will they pay attention to that?   She is not a good choice for bachette.  If they aren't going to choose Kaitlin or Carly then I would rather see a retread.  Sure, who they choose will never be liked across the board but there are other choices where the odds are better.   

[Wings]

Sneak peek for next week. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152606541423053

[saber5055]

 

Britt has fallen out of favor with the viewers since her chat with Chris.  But will they pay attention to that?

TPTB will choose the next b-ette based on what THEY interpret as "America's Favorite Bachelorette," which as nothing to do with what we think here. Brit is beautiful, which will draw in (male) viewers. Kaitlin is fun and borderline gross, and has those tats that look like weed on both arms. While Kaitlin, IMO, would be a fun b-ette, she doesn't seem to REALLY be there "looking for love," the safe bet is Brit. She will have a dramatic exit, break America's heart, and we will all cheer to see her become next b-ette.

 

Kaitlin could be the female Juan Pablo, which is a death blow in this franchise now.

 

Carly, while she has had some good THs, just isn't flashy enough or shown enough to be next.

 

We should start a betting pool!

[Wings]

TPTB will choose the next b-ette based on what THEY interpret as "America's Favorite Bachelorette," which as nothing to do with what we think here. Brit is beautiful, which will draw in (male) viewers. Kaitlin is fun and borderline gross, and has those tats that look like weed on both arms. While Kaitlin, IMO, would be a fun b-ette, she doesn't seem to REALLY be there "looking for love," the safe bet is Brit. She will have a dramatic exit, break America's heart, and we will all cheer to see her become next b-ette.

 

Kaitlin could be the female Juan Pablo, which is a death blow in this franchise now.

 

Carly, while she has had some good THs, just isn't flashy enough or shown enough to be next.

 

We should start a betting pool!

 

 

I agree with your logic.  I forgot about Kaitlin's tattoos.  That is a deal breaker for them, I am sure.   Too polarizing.  

[leighdear]

I think the producers let Andi fall behind Clare & Nicki, even though she was final 3, because they already had her tagged for the next Bachelorette.

 

I also think they let Chris fall to the back behind Nick & Josh, even though he was final 3, so he could go on to be The Bachelor.

 

I think they're doing the same thing with Britt.

 

If we know too much, see too much and learn too much about a contestant, they lose some of their appeal as the next lead.  Why would we want to know MORE about somebody when we already know a huge amount about them?  No mystery left.  No surprises.

Edited January 30, 2015 by leighdear

[saber5055]

I totally agree with you, leighdear. TPTB already hated Juan Pablo when Andi's FS "nightmare night" happened with him. That could have been a set up for America to hate JP for what he did to poor, sweet Andi, and so Andi would become a sympathetic b-ette who the viewers could get behind. And so America would hate JP as much as TPTB did and still do.

 

I've always been positive that Chris was sent home before the FS so he could stay pure and w/o any FS did he/didn't he controversy. He was pegged next TB by then, for sure. ABC already had Prince Farming lined up, and most of us here knew it way before the BIG.REVEAL! on national tv.

 

It will depend on the edit Britt gets when she leaves. But, she's beautiful so right there is The Right Reason to become next b-ette.

[truthaboutluv]

Sneak peek for next week. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152606541423053

 

So that's where Michelle Money's comment came from. Michelle's clearly been talking to some of the other contestants from the season. That is pretty gross and it's weird to me the producers haven't made it a storyline yet and more of the women aren't showing mentioning it.

 

Like what the hell - who the hell just doesn't shower when they more than have the means to? Is this supposed to be part of her "new agey" personality that matches with the whole "giving strangers hugs" because while I already thought the random hugs were weird enough, I think people would be even more bothered to be hugged by someone who doesn't shower. 

 

Brit is beautiful, which will draw in (male) viewers. Kaitlin is fun and borderline gross, and has those tats that look like weed on both arms.

 

 

Based on that sneak peak, while beautiful yes, I'd say Britt falls more in the borderline gross category with her no showering. I don't know, not a guy but a choice between woman with tattoos versus woman who does not shower - okay then (and I hate tattoos for the record). Again, it's more than likely she will be but it'll be interesting to see the comments and viewer reaction after last week when it's revealed that apparently she doesn't bathe. 

Edited January 30, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[MsPH]

This guy. She's too pretty to produce any kind of odor.

 

TBette is still her gig to lose, btw. Kaitlyn is attractive (beautiful is a stretch) but she'd suffer the same fate Ashley Hebert did: all of her suitors will have signed up to vie for Britt. Guaranteed, 100 percent.

 

Oh I'm sure she could smell like anything with those looks, but it's a bit strange that they would leave the comments about her lack of showering in the edit, if they were about to make her the Bachelorette. Viewers are gonna be wondering about her personal hygiene all season unless she explains it somehow beforehand. But I guess they could use it as a selling point, kind of like Ricki or Camila. Instead of "Will Emily succeed in finding a stepfather for Ricki?", it'll be "Will Britt find a man who doesn't mind weeks between showers?" Maybe they can cast some hippies.

[ElectricCityy]

I hope Britt at least cleans her ass after she takes a dump.

[Mu Shu]

This guy. She's too pretty to produce any kind of odor.

TBette is still her gig to lose, btw. Kaitlyn is attractive (beautiful is a stretch) but she'd suffer the same fate Ashley Hebert did: all of her suitors will have signed up to vie for Britt. Guaranteed, 100 percent.

Britt may be boring, but unlike "just one of the guys" Kaitlyn, she would draw the man candy, so I'm either for Britt, or Ashley I only for the humiliation factor. Kaitlyn is too smug, and she can stop with stealing the Jenna Marbles schtick anytime now.

I had a BF who never used deodorant and didn't shower daily. In Florida. He never, ever smelled bad. Of course, he swam daily, but he was magically non stinky, even on long camping trips. Three days in the wood and I reeled like a skunk ape. He smelled like a freshly groomed poodle.

Edited January 30, 2015 by Mu Shu