Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[nilyank]

7 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

I'm not sure why either Ryan or Esme would be going after Joss, specifically, but I'm sure it's one of them. Or Ava was attacked by Esme (because Ryan wouldn't need to steal a hook) and Brando by Ryan.

Esme would go after Joss because she hates her but I don't want her to be the Serial Hooker.

Just make it Ryan. He is using a hook because he cut off his hand.

[Steph J]

This divorce paper "drama" is so annoying. Curtis getting all worked up and saying someone needs to get fired over this? Dude, take it down several notches. For one thing, you can't prove that the paperwork was filed, so how are you going to get someone fired for not processing it? For another, this is a problem with a very clear and simple solution: reprint the paperwork, sign it again, and file it. I get that it would be annoying to think you were divorced and find out that you're actually still married, but it's not like you're getting married tomorrow.

An actually dramatic situation would be if Curtis and Portia went away to a place where you're not required to present proof of divorce in order to get married, and then came back and found out that he's still married to Jordan, making him a bigamist.

[ciarra]

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

If Carly's plane goes down, will we get Carly's version of Nixon Falls? Then she'd get to stay there for a while, not telling anyone that Nina is Willow's mother and no one will blame her for it

She will be hailed a hero when she returns, all suntanned from her stay on a desert island (with cabana boys) and it is revealed that she can save poor ailing Willow by, (gasp) telling the truth.

[Tenshinhan]

If Sonny gets guardianship of Sasha does that mean they end up in bed together or something?  Yikes...

[YaddaYadda]

I just saw this on Twitter and about died laughing. I don't know who the artist is, though.

[perkie1968]

11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

11 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I assume Brando's a goner (why was he following Joss out into the alley?

Brando has been at odds with Dex for awhile.  He was watching Dex and Joss at the table so when Joss got up to follow Dex out, to give him his sunglasses, I guess Brando followed her out for her protection.  

Right, right--I forgot all about that.  Thanks!

The whole thing was a plot point anyway.  Dex picks up his phone from the table but doesn't pick up his sunglasses which are literally an inch away from the phone.  Joss doesn't see the glasses sitting there until well after Dex has left, even though they are an inch from her hand.  So she runs out after him, and for whatever lame reason Brando follows her out.  Why?  Whatever issue he has with Dex, it was none of his business what Joss and Dex were doing.  Which will likely end with his death.  So his beef with Dex, was it worth it?  

Also, Dex was at both stabbings if we're looking for possible suspects.  I'm pretty sure we can eliminate any Cassadines and Austin's cousin because why would they stab someone behind Charlie's.  The person looked like they following Joss before turning to Brando, so my money is on Esme, who would have gone after both Ava and Joss.  If the hook-er shows up at the gallery looking for Trina........

[Cheyanne11]

18 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Curtis is such a motherfucking dumbass. No, dude, you're not a gift to women everywhere. Jordan gave you your divorce and if Shawn had stayed in town she'd be climbing that. She's not thirsty for your ass.

So arrogant.  Him finding out Jordan hasn't been the one being a shady liar rather Portia is going to be deeply satisfying.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Cheyanne11

[dubbel zout]

13 hours ago, racked said:

I hope it’s not Esme. The character could grate but the actress is very capable and I want her brought back as an Ava type character. Let Cam have someone to seek inappropriate comfort with when Joss cheats on him (which will be his fault). 

Ew, no to Cam and Esmé. She broadcast his sexing with Joss. Let Cam go to Trina for the inappropriate comfort.

[tveyeonyou]

18 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'd really like it if it was Nelle hooking people, although I don't know why Ava would be a target, unless I forgot something, which I probably did anyway.

It wasn't you forgetting something, it was me typing the wrong name, I meant to say Esme instead of Nelle. I had Nelle on my brain because of the cemetery scene with Nina.

Thanks for pointing that out so I can go back and fix it.

[Daisy]

16 hours ago, racked said:

We can also rule out Spencer. Isn’t that all the suspects from that night? Or at least all the people whose whereabouts were unaccounted for. What a lame lack of suspense. 

I hope it’s not Esme. The character could grate but the actress is very capable and I want her brought back as an Ava type character. Let Cam have someone to seek inappropriate comfort with when Joss cheats on him (which will be his fault). 

i agree. I'd be mad if it were Esme, and I really want Cam/Esme to be a thing. (honestly the sex tape thing can be their obstacle and figure how to move on past that. it would be a good soapy story)

(or it would be. i don't trust the writers but still)

[perkie1968]

We here in Toronto, got today's episode for those that didnt.

[Daisy]

new Scout. She's pretty.

Carly is throwing a temper tantrum that she can't leave Florida during a severe storm. She even is like "well i can take anything." and the flight attended is like "are you serious?". I would have put her on the most broke down plane and washed my hands with her. 

now we have dogs giving Carly awesome validation. enough show. 

Now she throws a temper tantrum because she left her phone on the plane, and is pissy because you know, they dared move the plane and won't let her board. The woman she's talking to made us see the Drewfus/Carly kiss. I hate this woman now lol

HAHAHHAHAHAHA. the flight is cancelled. Carly looks pissed. I am pleased.

Portia tries to talk Curtis down. Curtis is all. "please like Jordan would lose something." shut up. 

Ava has no time Nik. me either. Nik is all if i wanted to kill you, i would have done it with my bare hands. Nik also uses this to try to seduce Ava. lol Ava doesn't want to want Nik. me either. Nik goes "I own who I am." HAHAHAHA. no you don't, you dipstick.

you know. Hooking Brando, and then showing Bearded Wonder's picture in the credits, makes me just wish that it was Bearded Wonder who got hooked.  And of course the rain has stopped now. Brando lives for now. Sonny lamely bleats out. "don't give up hoppeeee" lol 

Sam blows smoke up Drewfus and Carly's butt. skip.

Jordan and Dante don't do their jobs and let Kristina and Sonny go because "they are tired and want to see Brando."

(Krissy today looked VERY much like Molly)

[statsgirl]

For a minute I thought that it was Joss saving Brando too. I'm glad it was Kristina who found him, and it makes much more sense since she manages Charlie's. But I bet the town isn't going to line up to tell her how wonderful she is as they did for Joss.

They really are doing misery porn for Sasha.

Hey, maybe it's Dex who is the hooker.  He was close by both times. And I don't like him at all. Let it be Dex or Cody. Or one of them die.

Dante being the one to investigate his cousin Brando's stabbing by talking to his father and half-sister shows how incestuous the show is.

Brando looks pretty good for someone who almost died a few minutes ago. And where is the ER/trauma doctors? Leaving Brando with an internal medicine doc and a new intern isn't doing your best for him. (This is why they need Lucas, who is an ER doctor) And now they're doing surgery on him? Neither of them is qualified to do more than hold things in surgery.

The Ava/Nik scenes today were good. Call me stupid but I still want them together.

Carly demonstrating how to be a Karen. I'm surprised she didn't call for a manager. And Carls, no on cares

"I have three beautiful daughters."  You keep your hands off Avery, baby hoarder.

Doggy Gretel is no judge of character if she likes Carly. Having that woman keep saying "you  young people" to Carly, who is probably only 15 years younger, is so heavy-handed to push Carly being young.

Portia, keep deluding yourself that Curtis is such a catch that no woman can move on from him.

Did Sam just reprogram Scout's game so that she could advance a level?

Sam taking Scout for a fancy dessert reminds me that when my daughter was young, at the end of the summer I would take her and her friends to an amusement park for an end-of-summer celebration.. The summer I took six 11-year-olds to the Canadian National Exhibition. still gives me a cold sweat.

[dubbel zout]

OMG, Curtis is still going on about the stupid divorce papers. FFS. He looks like a petulant baby, demanding answers and accountability. There is no drama here whatsoever.

I'm surprised Carly never said, "Don't you know who I am?" as if that would scare the weather into immediately clearing up.

[lala2]

Ok. I didn't see the entire show today, and I know this is a minority, unpopular opinion but I love MC's Nikolas and I love Nava. I caught the last 20 minutes or so, and I loved everything he said to Ava. It was true, and I still think MC and MW have massive amounts of chemistry. I really want them reunited. Ava has every reason to be upset but I wouldn't be mad if she let it go. LOL! I hate that they had Nik sleep w/Esme but it is what it is. Nava have chemistry, and I want them together. 

Poor Brando! I'm in the minority w/him too I think. I like Brando and don't want to see him murdered off! If that happens, Sasha is gonna die by an overdose. She won't be able to handle losing her baby AND Brando. 

When I saw Drew w/Scout, I was confused for a minute. I forgot who CM was playing and then remembered he's Drew. LOL! Is that his second scene w/his daughter since he returned?!?

Why is Carly going to Aruba? Wait . . . I don't care. I hope she stays there. 

A Kristina sighting! They should really write for Lexi but whatever. 

ETA: I'm glad I missed the Curtis scenes. Curtis makes me sick! He should have looked into the divorce too. It wasn't Jordan's sole responsbility to make sure the divorce went through. I don't know how divorces are handled in NY but even when they are uncontested, hrgs are still held to confirm all that. This story is beyond ridiculous, and I'm not looking forward to him blaming Jordan for it! I hate him! 

Edited September 14, 2022 by lala2

[Auntie Velvet]

It just hit me that the writers are trying to turn Nicholas and Ava into Alan and Monica 2.0 -- affairs, threats of violence, and passion.  The good part of that is longevity for the pairing, which I like.

But I feel queasy that Nicholas has just accepted that bedding teenagers and saying he would kill his beloved wife with his bare hands if need be, is "Just who I am."

The Nicholas we know has certainly done some horrible things, but he always aspired to be more like  an honorable prince, as well as to atone for his most recent "lapses." 

[Daisy]

8 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

It just hit me that the writers are trying to turn Nicholas and Ava into Alan and Monica 2.0 -- affairs, threats of violence, and passion.  The good part of that is longevity for the pairing, which I like.

....yeah. now that you say that.... i can see it. 

[rur]

26 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 Nik: if i wanted to kill you, i would have done it with my bare hands.

One of my favorite parts of the day, along with Ava's "yeah, true"  acknowledgement. 

20 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Did Sam just reprogram Scout's game so that she could advance a level?

Makes as much sense as taking her for creme brûlée. I'm sure that's every kid's favorite dessert. 

* * *

Sonny to Cop 1 at the crime scene: "My daughter and I will be here to answer any questions, so let the paramedics take the critically injured victim to the hospital." Cop 1: "OK."

Sonny to Dante and Police Commissioner: "We want to go to the hospital and don't want to answer any questions now." D and PC: "OK."

Sonny at the hospital: "Brando who? I need to go bother someone else." Everyone else: "OK." 

[Cheyanne11]

50 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Brando lives for now

So The Mad Hooker is awful at their job.  

[YaddaYadda]

11 minutes ago, rur said:

Makes as much sense as taking her for creme brûlée. I'm sure that's every kid's favorite dessert. 

It was mine actually, still is a top 5. My mom and I started having fancy dates when I was 7-8, once a month, just the two of us. Whatever we did that day we always ended up at a fancy restaurant afterward.

It was nice to see Scout, and Sam dating Dante has done wonders for her hair and wardrobe. I did not care one bit for her scenes with Drew, however. Stop calling Carly's phone, she's flying to Aruba not Buffalo or the other side of the river. She won't be landing in the next 5 minutes even with PC's wormhole.

Portia, Curtis ain't that special. Jordan made her peace with her relationship being over with him a long time ago. Oh, Portia, you and Curtis are both so stupid. Also, Curtis actor's acting seems to have regressed. 

I wish Jordan put the same energy investigating all her cases as she is doing figuring out the whole DNA website situation.

Did not care for the screaming coming out of Sasha and Gladys. I get it, did not like it.

Glad to see Kristina back.

The less said about Carly and that dumb dog who can sniff out good people, the better. Carly is trash, show. Pure trash. Thanks.

[dubbel zout]

LOL that the ambo guys just stroll up to Brando. Portia and TJ are pretty casual at GH, too.

2 minutes ago, rur said:

Makes as much sense as taking her for creme brûlée. I'm sure that's every kid's favorite dessert. 

Why couldn't it be? Many kids have wide-ranging palates.

"Is it that obvious to most people that Carly and I are circling around each other?" Yes, Drewfus, it is that obvious. You two aren't subtle.

Owning who you are doesn't excuse your gross behavior, Nik. He says that like it's his get-out-of-jail-free card.

[perkie1968]

26 minutes ago, rur said:

Sonny to Cop 1 at the crime scene: "My daughter and I will be here to answer any questions,

But only for the seven seconds that we deign it necessary before we flippantly inform said Cop that we are done answering questions.  Good to see the Cop give a bit of side eye/eye roll to that one.  

Great big fat kudos to Lexi Ainsworth.  Girlfriend can cry like nobody's business and should give lessons to others.  

Why did Brando seem as though he was going towards the Hooker rather than run back into Charlie's the minute he saw him?  

I do appreciate Ava's unwavering belief that Liz wouldn't stab her.  At no point has she even doubted it, even knowing that Liz is losing chunks of tiime.  

Everything Carly was so unecessary.  I mean, who cares?  Even Carly fans have to be sitting there wondering why were seeing about 12 minutes of her ranting and raving at an extra in a teeny tiny airport lounge.  It might have been a bit more suspensful and intersting to not have seen Carly at all and had Drew getting worried that she should have landed by now and wasn't reachable.  

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Everything Carly was so unecessary.  I mean, who cares?  Even Carly fans have to be sitting there wondering why were seeing about 12 minutes of her ranting and raving at an extra in a teeny tiny airport lounge. 

I know I/all of us say this all the time, but do the writers think this is a good look for the character?  Especially in today's world where "Karens" are being called out for the entitlement and nastiness?  

[perkie1968]

11 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Jordan made her peace with her relationship being over with him a long time ago.

I will give Portia, Curtis and the show the benefit of the doubt a little bit on this one.  When Jordan first came back after her injury, she was all up in Purtis' business and Tanisha was playing it hard that Jordan still had feelings for Curtis.  There was a scene at The Savoy where TH played it almost Fatal Attraction style, before calming things down in future scenes. (I need to find that scene on youtube) Jordan clearly seems to have moved on now, but there was something there for a bit.  

[statsgirl]

Sonny did tell the uniform cop that he had asked Kristina the same question 100 times about the person's appearance and she doesn't know anything more so I understand why they didn't want to stick around to go over it with Dante again.

Curtis, do you really think that there is a plot to keep you married to Jordan? Portia/Curtis and Carly/Drew should just double date, they're all full of themselves and perfect for each other. Then I can move quickly past them.

2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

It was mine actually, still is a top 5.

Same with mine. Also it's because it's something that I didn't make at home, unlike pie or cookies, so it was a treat to order it. (But then this is the kid who wanted me to take asparagus and smoked salmon to her Montessori preschool when it was our day to provide snack. I switched it to apple and cheese.)

2 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Everything Carly was so unecessary.  I mean, who cares?  Even Carly fans have to be sitting there wondering why were seeing about 12 minutes of her ranting and raving at an extra in a teeny tiny airport lounge.  It might have been a bit more suspensful and intersting to not have seen Carly at all and had Drew getting worried that she should have landed by now and wasn't reachable.  

But then we wouldn't have yet another random character and her dog tell us how wonderful Carly is. ,eyeroll> and Carly claim Avery.

Drew is acting like a teenager, as is Carly, unable to be apart from the crush object.

[AuxArx]

I'm another fan of this Nicholas; I just like his foxy little face and I think he and Ava are interesting together.

And didn't Ava sleep with her daughter's boyfriend? She should be more understanding (except Esme was a nut case and Morgan was just dumb).

Laughed when Sam was mocking Drew when he was bumbling around (talking about Carly, I think) and she kept going "uh", "um" to interrupt him. Showed a little personality.

[perkie1968]

26 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

Brando lives for now

So The Mad Hooker is awful at their job.  

No, I'm pretty sure Brando's a goner.  Poor Sasha hasn't had enough garbage thrown at her yet.  

14 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Owning who you are doesn't excuse your gross behavior, Nik. He says that like it's his get-out-of-jail-free card.

It's the same way Carly uses the hypocrisy card.  "I know I'm a hypocrite, but....."    Nik's version: "I know I'm garbage jackoff but..."

[Daisy]

5 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I know I/all of us say this all the time, but do the writers think this is a good look for the character?  Especially in today's world where "Karens" are being called out for the entitlement and nastiness?  

i don't get why they are called Karens. 
poor Karen. :(

[rur]

47 minutes ago, rur said:

Makes as much sense as taking her for creme brûlée. I'm sure that's every kid's favorite dessert. 

23 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

It was mine actually, still is a top 5. M

21 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Why couldn't it be? Many kids have wide-ranging palates.

I was surprised that Scout, who hasn't been onscreen for . . . years (?) . . .  was suddenly re-introduced that way, since I think we can all be pretty sure Sam wasn't making it for her at home. But then I realized that she must have been introduced to it during all the time she spent at the Quartermaine's. I imagine Millow demanded that it be served to Wiley regularly as soon as he was able to eat solid food. 

(and in case there was any doubt, that was a smart a$$ comment, just like the first one)

Edited September 14, 2022 by rur

[YaddaYadda]

9 minutes ago, rur said:

I imagine Millow demanded that it be served to Wiley regularly as soon as he was able to eat solid food. 

It was of course fed to him on a golden plate and a golden spoon while he sits on the Iron Throne and wears one of the crowns being kept in the Tower of London. 

Crème Brûlée is all about the cracking noise of the sugar as it breaks and the yummy creaminess. And now I must have it. 

[Auntie Velvet]

That whole airport business with Nellie Needlework over there was SO tiresome. Like seniors have nothing better to do than ask "young" (ahem) women all about their lives, plus hand out free advice. 

Was this woman also going to Aruba? Who knows! She acted like she was sitting on some cracker barrel at the general store, just gently chiding "the young people" who can't appreciate the wonder that is Jacksonville.(No wonder Grandma Carly ate up the attention! Heck, it's how I feel when I visit my mother at her senior living neighborhood, LOL) 

[superdeluxe]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So The Mad Hooker is awful at their job.  

Right?  You hook someone, they’re supposed to die.  You got Ava still living and now Blando?  What’s the point of this?

[KittenPokerCheater]

I Know What You Did Last Summer, the port charles meh version.

[rur]

4 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Was this woman also going to Aruba? Who knows! She acted like she was sitting on some cracker barrel at the general store, just gently chiding "the young people" who can't appreciate the wonder that is Jacksonville.

And speaking of Jacksonville, I thought when Carly was first introduced it was established that she grew up in central Florida, nearer to Orlando?

Never mind. I looked it up on a fandom wiki -- and I knew there was somewhere else involved. 

"Carly is born off-screen on November 5, 1973[30][31] in Jacksonville, Florida to a 16 year old Bobbie Spencer; Bobbie, a teen prostitute, is forced to give up her baby. Carly is adopted by Frank and Virginia Benson as Caroline Leigh Benson, in Pensacola, Florida.

Frank abandons Caroline (who is the age of three[32]) and Virginia shortly after. Virginia also supported them on a secretaries salary.[33]

In 1995, Virginia lived with Carly in Jacksonville, Florida. Carly tells Virginia that she got a job at the hospital but turned them down because she doesn't want to spend her life where she grew up.

Edited September 15, 2022 by rur

[sacrebleu]

Random chatty airport lady was doing needlepoint at the airport?

Do they let you take needles on planes, or past security? 

[dubbel zout]

Wouldn't you want to stab yourself if you were stuck talking to Carly? You know Carly can't be killed.

[Pingaponga]

Carly is told that her phone was likely turned in to Lost & Found, and instead of going to Lost & Found to find it, she returns to bitch about that to the woman she's been chatting with. If you phone is so important to you that you have go on and on about it, wouldn't you go to where you could find it?

I'd rather Sasha had been hooked instead of Brando. Brando is kind of blah, but Sasha is totally blah.

Do we now get a Serial Hooker story line? There seem to be an awful number of possible suspects we can take off the list - which doesn't seem ideal this early on, but can we offer up possible victims as well?

[YaddaYadda]

15 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

I'd rather Sasha had been hooked instead of Brando. Brando is kind of blah, but Sasha is totally blah.

But where's the fun in that? Isn't it just exciting to watch Sasha hit something that exists below rock bottom? 

They should've written the 2 characters off after they got married.

[perkie1968]

56 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Random chatty airport lady was doing needlepoint at the airport?

This.  Also Carly's idea that she can get back on the plane to get her phone, like there isn't hours of security involved in air travel in 2022.  So stupid.  

[Daisy]

55 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Random chatty airport lady was doing needlepoint at the airport?

Do they let you take needles on planes, or past security? 

yeah you can. you can't take scissors, but needles are okay. when i went overseas a few years ago, that was my big concern, but they were like no big deal, but i took my wooden needles anyway because in case someone felt a bit zealous.

what ticked me off is that usually if someone whips out their needlework, or something it's a big sign to "DO NOT BOTHER ME." but oh no, not Carly, she just plops down and whinges how she needs to change her life by going to Aruba. 

which is a TOTAL waste of time because I bet a major aspect of this thing would be "Listen to when people smarter than you tell you not to do something, and/or don't commit insider trading because "You trust your son." Carly will just pout. 

[Cheyanne11]

53 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

Carly is told that her phone was likely turned in to Lost & Found, and instead of going to Lost & Found to find it, she returns to bitch about that to the woman she's been chatting with.

"Only in Jacksonville!  They won't let me back on the plane!"  What part of "the plane is no longer at the gate did you not hear, you goddamned harpy?  Also, pretty sure air travel security exists outside of Jacksonville.  Not that this story is going to be anything but allowing Carly to "open her heart" to Drewfus and the possibility of love again.  It's like a very special episode of Blossom without the funky hats or the friend named Six.

[driver18]

I read elsewhere and I'm liking the theory that Roy is the killer. He went after Ava. He was going after Joss, only turned to Brando cuz he saw him. What do Ava and Joss have in common? They're close to Trina, but not family. Rory wants to be the only one she leans on and turns to. And apparently we've seen him be ambidextrous. So, cool theory. 

Now, I'm just excited about tomorrow cuz Carly is obviously talking to figment-of-her-imagination Nelle.

[Peppermint Patty]

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

I read elsewhere and I'm liking the theory that Roy is the killer. He went after Ava. He was going after Joss, only turned to Brando cuz he saw him. What do Ava and Joss have in common? They're close to Trina, but not family. Rory wants to be the only one she leans on and turns to. And apparently we've seen him be ambidextrous. So, cool theory. 

Now, I'm just excited about tomorrow cuz Carly is obviously talking to figment-of-her-imagination Nelle.

I really hope it’s Rory because they have to do something to make that character interesting. On the other hand, this would be a good chance to reveal that Ryan is Esme’s father. I’m really missing Avery Pohl!

[ciarra]

5 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

Random chatty airport lady was doing needlepoint at the airport?

And doing it badly.  It was like someone pretending to be a concert pianist who has never played the piano before. 

Three phone calls to Carly?  Geez, Drew, desperate much?  If a guy called me (ha, ha, ha!) three times, I'd be thinking stalker.

I stand corrected, they are going with fish hook rather than hay hook.  Still looks like a hay hook to me and makes more sense than needing to harpoon something in the pond.  

Half my show was gone, for no good reason, again. 

Amazing how quickly rain comes and goes in Port Chuck, and how people who are soaked one minute are dry the next.

And Drew and Chase, quit picking up kids who are no longer tiny toddlers. 

[YaddaYadda]

11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Not that this story is going to be anything but allowing Carly to "open her heart" to Drewfus and the possibility of love again.

[CeChase]

11 hours ago, driver18 said:

I read elsewhere and I'm liking the theory that Roy is the killer. He went after Ava. He was going after Joss, only turned to Brando cuz he saw him. What do Ava and Joss have in common? They're close to Trina, but not family. Rory wants to be the only one she leans on and turns to. And apparently we've seen him be ambidextrous. So, cool theory. 

Now, I'm just excited about tomorrow cuz Carly is obviously talking to figment-of-her-imagination Nelle.

I really like this idea.  I'm a Sprina stan, so this would lead to some really good stories for them.   If it is Rory, someone will go after Spencer in Pentonville.  We'll see, but I like this.  Definitely don't want it to be Esme, because I want Avery back long term.  

[dubbel zout]

8 hours ago, ciarra said:

Three phone calls to Carly?  Geez, Drew, desperate much?  If a guy called me (ha, ha, ha!) three times, I'd be thinking stalker.

Seriously. He knows she's on a plane. Next thing he'll do is check with the airlines and fly down to Jacksonville to "rescue" her, because Jasus knows Carly can't sit around waiting for the weather to clear up.

12 hours ago, driver18 said:

I read elsewhere and I'm liking the theory that Roy is the killer. He went after Ava. He was going after Joss, only turned to Brando cuz he saw him. What do Ava and Joss have in common? They're close to Trina, but not family. Rory wants to be the only one she leans on and turns to. And apparently we've seen him be ambidextrous. So, cool theory. 

Not a fan of this, mostly because the show does not need another overly possessive man thinking he knows what's best for the woman in his life.

[Daisy]

9 hours ago, ciarra said:

And Drew and Chase, quit picking up kids who are no longer tiny toddlers. 

i think this is basically for blocking purposes.  they lift them up (so they can talk) vs. having everyone bend down. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Daisy

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

i think this is basically for blocking purposes.  they lift them up (so they can talk) vs. having everyone bend down. 

Makes sense except they bend down anyway lol!

[Kim0820]

20 hours ago, lala2 said:

A Kristina sighting! They should really write for Lexi but whatever. 

I thought it was Molly at first.  

19 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I was rooting for the dog to start barking!

19 hours ago, Daisy said:

i don't get why they are called Karens. 
poor Karen. :(

IMO it is the age group.  It is my age group, and the name was so popular, we had four Karens in my second grade class.  Now they are middle aged.  So a woman of that age - her most likely or most common name is Karen.  Lisa was second.  My parents said they considered "Lisa" for me - so glad they picked something else.  Among my best friends in high school, the top 4?  One is a Karen and one is a Lisa. 

It also struck me that Carly was acting like a Karen in the airport lounge.  The weather is prohibitive of flight, and the girl said you aren't going anywhere.  What's the point of bugging her about something she can't change, or blaming "Jacksonville" for it, or the airline, or anyone?  So entitled Carly. 

The constant phone calls were stupid.  Drew was in prison awhile, maybe that is why he does not know there are apps with flight progress and news?  And that Carly is dippy enough to lose her phone, or let it drain of power?  

Edited September 15, 2022 by Kim0820