Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[AryasMum]

On 12/6/2020 at 7:33 PM, ciarra said:

Or better off if he were raised by wolves.  At least he wouldn't turn out as bland as Millow.

Plenty of switched at birth babies would have been better off with their fake parents. I can’t imagine Jax could have done a worse job with Spencer than Nikolas.
 

At the very least, Spencer wouldn’t have been such a sniveling elitist calling other children “townies”, while living in a depressing gothic mansion with his psychotic great-grandmother creeping around in the catacombs.  He would have missed out on Laura, but she was as overly indulgent of him as Nikolas. 

[AryasMum]

On 12/7/2020 at 3:33 PM, dubbel zout said:

Oh, god, now we'll have to suffer through Willow and Michael being unable to tell the other they're in love with Chase and Sasha, respectively. (Too bad it can't go the other way!)

It can't get geography right; you want time zones now?

You’re being very generous in giving the show the benefit of the doubt regarding a who’s the daddy storyline. 😉

[TVbitch]

For a moment I thought Sasha was trying to help Brando get in better with Cyrus by talking him up, but then I was like, wait, she doesn't know what Brando is up to ....so, no... she's just a feckless idiot. 

I actually thought KeMo gave 100% effort today. I jest, of course, but I think she gave 15%. Maybe the break up will energize her. 

[SiouxB]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Martin, you are an officer of the court. Don't let some two-bit hood like Sonny push you around. Wow, that was so disappointing.

"Baby, the bomb would have went off whether you were here or not." Sigh. The bomb would have GONE off. Obviously no one on the writing staff knows English grammar. It's embarrassing that this kind of basic mistake keeps getting made.

 

Oh Dubbel zout, marry me !!

I winced when he said that ....when people make that mistake on TV or in real life, I cringe !!!

[Cheyanne11]

4 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Who is this Drew you speak of? 

Awful man who, had he had his way, would've made all the women-folk of PC wear skirts.  Worst thing to happen to the town since Mikkos Cassadine tried to freeze the place.

So if Danny had said "no biggie that Dad isn't around much, we have fun when he is" then Sam would've happily remained a doormat?  She needed her 10-year-old to kick Jason out?  Yeah, this ~breakup won't last--though I'm sure a scene of Carly stomping into the penthouse to yell at Sam is coming shortly.  Oh, joy.

 

[nilyank]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Martin, you are an officer of the court. Don't let some two-bit hood like Sonny push you around. Wow, that was so disappointing.

 

I think they had those scenes together for two reasons. First, they need some explanation about how Sonny and Jason are able to track down Julian when he should have left town once Ryan revealed he had Nelle's letter. Second I think it was to have the actors who have known each other since All My Children the chance to share scenes together.

Now can we start the countdown to when Morgan shows up. Joss mentioned all the questions one would normally asked when someone you love who has "died" and stayed away for years.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

If they hadn't turned Lucky into a deadbeat dad, or had Vaughn's "Lucky" be a total meathead whose hacking skillz had disappeared, Cam could have learned such skillz from Jonathan's Lucky.

Cam's interactions with/loyalty to Joss and Trina today and his attempts to hack into his mother's computer strongly reminded me of teenage Lucky with Elizabeth and Emily.  Watching WL's acting made me wish JJ would return for Lucky/Cam scenes.

[statsgirl]

Show, is it really so necessary to have Sonny and Jason murder Julian? I was hoping that he could just disappear and keep the possibility of having the character back later. 

Not that it's ever going to happen under FV but what if Danny and Scout ever asked "What happened to Grandpa Julian?" Is Sam going to say "You dad murdered him"?

5 hours ago, LexieLily said:

The Sam and Jason breakup/break was a long time coming and should have happened years ago, but thank goodness it finally happened. The only thing that would have made it better would be Danny saying that he missed Uncle Drew, or he missed when Drew was his dad, because he and Mom were happier then.

It would never happen. St Jaysus will always win out over that horrible Drew who made Sam be the head of Aurora and wear skirts.

5 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Sam is so shocked to hear that Danny's friends' parents are afraid of Jason?!

Even if not of Jason himself, the enforcer with a heart of gold, the violence that follows him.

That reminded me of my sister-in-law who used to work with Rottweiler Rescue. When she started having kids, they  moved to a different breed of dogs after theirs died because she was afraid that other parents would let their kids come to a house with Rottweilers. Yes, she's that much smarter than Sam.

[dubbel zout]

3 hours ago, AryasMum said:

I can’t imagine Jax could have done a worse job with Spencer than Nikolas.

Jax would not have indulged that little turd the way Nik and everyone else did. He certainly wouldn't have let him FIX AN ELECTION. It still irks me to no end that Spencer got away with a felony. Some time in juvie would do him good.

39 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Show, is it really so necessary to have Sonny and Jason murder Julian? I was hoping that he could just disappear and keep the possibility of having the character back later. 

Sonny and Jason haven't killed anyone in a while. They're getting itchy. I'm sure the show will make this as degrading for Julian as possible. Ugh.

39 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Show, is it really so necessary to have Sonny and Jason murder Julian? I was hoping that he could just disappear and keep the possibility of having the character back later. 

Can't wait for Sonny to tell Olivia he killed her kid's father. And this time he doesn't have the excuse of not knowing who Julian is.

[TeeVee329]

Something about Jason instructing Sam that Lucas "doesn't need to know" about Julian's misdeeds rubbed me the wrong way.  Not that I'm that eager to see Lucas on-screen these days given how not-good I'm finding the new portrayer, but something about that was so...dismissive?...of Lucas as a character.  Because it's not a situation like, with Michael, where people are trying to coddle Lucas or protect him.  It's just the show being so uninterested in Lucas' feelings or POV that they chop him out of narratives like so.  It's a shame.

Previews...are we supposed to be concerned that Michael won't forgive Carly for the whole Chase/Sasha thing?  He forgave her for covering for his bio dad's murderer after like five minutes so not so much with the drama here, Show.  As I've said before, there are no dramatic stakes to their relationship anymore.

[Daisy]

I've been watching clips again (so i am behind. (again). - so did Carly do something re: Sasha/Chase/Willow/Michael? 

I was watching Sam tell Jason don't come back home, and i was literally wondering - that's not how it should have gone. What Sam should have said was this: "If you love your children, you will not leave. We will have family night. We will try to live normal lives. I get it will be difficult, but you will put them first. You will not run when Carly whinges, you will not say "how high" when Sonny barks at you. If you feel you need to play all mobsters and get revenge on Julian for stuff that you've done yourself - then please know that you are no longer welcome in this house and you are not going to be around your children. Period." 

like lay it out there. 

Not like it matters because i've seen this song and dance with Carly and Sonny 999999 times, and considering Carly still makes kids with Sonny after having a bullet in her brain because of him, Michael being shot and in a coma because of him, and Morgan murdered because of him. i really don't care because we all know it won't stick. And I just have to laugh that Sonny needs to murder Julian for knowing about Jonah/Wiley and in the back of my head.... i just keep thinking y'all did it first with Michael and AJ. get over yourselves. 

[TeeVee329]

16 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I've been watching clips again (so i am behind. (again). - so did Carly do something re: Sasha/Chase/Willow/Michael? 

Sasha and Chase came up with the fake cheating on their own, but Carly found out about it after the fact and kept it from Michael.

Edited December 9, 2020 by TeeVee329

[Bringonthedrama]

58 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Can't wait for Sonny to tell Olivia he killed her kid's father. And this time he doesn't have the excuse of not knowing who Julian is.

I doubt he remembers that Olivia has another son, much less that Julian is her second son's father.

[Katy M]

9 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Can't wait for Sonny to tell Olivia he killed her kid's father. And this time he doesn't have the excuse of not knowing who Julian is.

I don't think he would see this as a bad thing, though.  Julian is bad (from Sonny's point of view).  Olivia now has her son all to herself with no pesky potential of  custody or visitation problems.  So, he'd have no problem telling her.  

[YaddaYadda]

9 hours ago, Daisy said:

I was watching Sam tell Jason don't come back home, and i was literally wondering - that's not how it should have gone. What Sam should have said was this: "If you love your children, you will not leave. We will have family night. We will try to live normal lives. I get it will be difficult, but you will put them first. You will not run when Carly whinges, you will not say "how high" when Sonny barks at you. If you feel you need to play all mobsters and get revenge on Julian for stuff that you've done yourself - then please know that you are no longer welcome in this house and you are not going to be around your children. Period." 

Sure, but Sam already knows where on Jason's priority list she and the children are, so it's like fighting a losing battle. It's not like her mother and Kristina didn't spell it out for her. So she made the decision for him. 

I'm sorry Sam, I can't stay for game night. I have to trach your father so that I can put a bullet in him and bury him in a shallow grave.

[ffwbe]

50 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I don't think he would see this as a bad thing, though.  Julian is bad (from Sonny's point of view).  Olivia now has her son all to herself with no pesky potential of  custody or visitation problems.  So, he'd have no problem telling her.  

I’d be shocked if Olivia cares. She’s always been a Sonny worshipper and was cheerleading Jason during her last conversation with Julian. Despite wanted to raise Dante away from the mob, she’s beyond hope. 

[Daisy]

Wait. Olivia has another kid?

[dubbel zout]

12 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

13 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Can't wait for Sonny to tell Olivia he killed her kid's father. And this time he doesn't have the excuse of not knowing who Julian is.

I doubt he remembers that Olivia has another son, much less that Julian is her second son's father.

LOL. I expect when Olivia hears that Julian is dunzo, she might have something to ask Sonny.

2 hours ago, ffwbe said:

I'd be shocked if Olivia cares. She’s always been a Sonny worshipper and was cheerleading Jason during her last conversation with Julian. Despite wanted to raise Dante away from the mob, she’s beyond hope. 

Olivia has never liked the mob violence. I hate her hypocrisy toward Julian—no one forced her to revenge-fuck him on NYE—but I do think she wouldn't actively applaud his death, especially by Sonny/Jason.

But who knows? The show has made it completely impossible for anyone reasonable to think Sonny and Jason are wrong for any reason.

[ulkis]

I would rather have Sam talk about how he can't bother to tell her anything, like calling or texting when minions are coming to escort her or respond to her texts because he wants to chat with Britt.

[dubbel zout]

I don't care what happens to Sam and Jason. They're both pathetic. Jason because he can't put his family first, and Sam because she's allowed herself to be a non-priority for Jason for way too long. Their breakup is a bore.

[statsgirl]

3 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Sure, but Sam already knows where on Jason's priority list she and the children are, so it's like fighting a losing battle. It's not like her mother and Kristina didn't spell it out for her. So she made the decision for him.

It's so stupid and the pacing is ridiculous. A few months ago she was so desperate to be able to spend time with him that she sold out her kids' voting rights, and now she can't even sit down with him and say "We have to talk about your job and our relationship and see if we can work things out because I can't go on like this any more." Instead she just tells him it's over.

4 hours ago, Katy M said:

I don't think he would see this as a bad thing, though.  Julian is bad (from Sonny's point of view).  Olivia now has her son all to herself with no pesky potential of  custody or visitation problems.  So, he'd have no problem telling her.  

Yep. Sonny would consider it a benefit to have the other birth parent out of the picture. If only he could get rid of Ava so completely.

[dubbel zout]

7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

It's so stupid and the pacing is ridiculous. A few months ago she was so desperate to be able to spend time with him that she sold out her kids' voting rights, and now she can't even sit down with him and say "We have to talk about your job and our relationship and see if we can work things out because I can't go on like this any more." Instead she just tells him it's over.

The pacing is the worst. Sam suddenly decides for her kids' sake to dump Jason? Her children are not babies. Her realization that Jason isn't around has been happening since they got together. let alone had kids. If they really want to make it about the kids, Danny should have been injured in the bomb explosion. But instead both he and Jason were totally out of the way and safe. THAT makes Sam rethink things? 

It's a complete dumpster fire, so TFGH.

7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Sonny would consider it a benefit to have the other birth parent out of the picture. If only he could get rid of Ava so completely.

He could, he just hasn't for whatever dumb reason. If he has no scruples murdering Julian, he shouldn't have any killing Ava.

[ciarra]

I'm still wondering about the inordinate length of time it took Danny to ask Scout if she wanted to play the game.   Where is the kid's bedroom, Narnia?  Yeah, JaSam needed the kid out of there so they could talk, but that was a seriously long time.  It was a "we flew back from Mexico" length of time.

 

[Katy M]

18 minutes ago, ciarra said:

I'm still wondering about the inordinate length of time it took Danny to ask Scout if she wanted to play the game.   Where is the kid's bedroom, Narnia?  Yeah, JaSam needed the kid out of there so they could talk, but that was a seriously long time.  It was a "we flew back from Mexico" length of time.

 

they're siblings. They probably had to fight first.  Or they stopped to eavesdrop.

[Asp Burger]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

If he has no scruples murdering Julian, he shouldn't have any killing Ava.

I don't love anything involving Sonny, but the way they've handled his relationship with Ava in recent years -- roughly the post "magic face-burn fix" period -- has been pretty good, IMO. I think he is better than Carly about realizing (if grudgingly) that Ava is important to Avery, and Carly can't supersede that relationship. Ava also encouraged Avery's relationship with Mike, and he was appreciative of that.

Also, she's not really being "Ava of the notorious Jerome Crime Family" anymore. She's running her art gallery and playing Lady of Wyndemere, neither of which roles presents any conflict with his business interests. With all of that together, it makes sense to me that they're in a period of détente.

Now that Julian's on the way out and the "Morgan's return" anvils are falling, there will be even less reason for him to want her gone, although I'm sure he and Carly will play the "No thanks to you!" card when/if Morgan turns up alive.

[Katy M]

8 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

Now that Julian's on the way out and the "Morgan's return" anvils are falling, there will be even less reason for him to want her gone, although I'm sure he and Carly will play the "No thanks to you!" card when/if Morgan turns up alive.

Can not 1 Port Charles resident die and stay dead?  If they're going to keep bringing dead people back, they should go totally random and bring back Dawn Winthrop, or Dominique.  

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

I'm still wondering about the inordinate length of time it took Danny to ask Scout if she wanted to play the game.   Where is the kid's bedroom, Narnia? 

And was she sleeping?  Because otherwise, the five-year-old child all by herself upstairs while the rest of the family had game night downstairs is creepy and weird.  

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Asp Burger said:

I think he is better than Carly about realizing (if grudgingly) that Ava is important to Avery, and Carly can't supersede that relationship.

Ava still isn't important enough to Avery that Sonny will revisit custody arrangements. I blame Ava equally for not pushing it, but it aggravates me that Sonny still has primary custody.

I'm sure Sonny has forgotten that Leo exists, which is why I want Olivia to give him hell after Julian's death. It's not up to Sonny to decide that Leo is better off without his father, which I'm sure is what Sonny will say. Ugh, it's so gross Sonny is the moral compass this fakakta show.

[dubbel zout]

Laura's expression when she was shooting the gun was kind of odd, like a grimace or "I wish I wasn't doing this" or something. Weird choice from GF.

Jason saying he won't fight Sam on leaving is really the deepest cut. It definitively tells her she and the kids aren't his priority. Still, I have no sympathy for anyone here. This situation is not new. And news flash, Sam: Your kids will always be connected to Jason, so living apart won't guarantee they won't be collateral damage.

Oh, Martin. Why are you still letting a two-bit thug push you around? And LOL that Sonny fobs off the questions to Diane. I thought he'd let Diane talk to Martin one on one. Instead, Sonny's sitting right there!

[Bringonthedrama]

Well, some of you called it that Martin and Cyrus are half brothers, a la half brothers attorney Ric and criminal Sonny who share a mother. But Shut Up, Diane. You are not in court and Martin is not under arrest or in a police station for questioning. UGH.

Genie Francis is truly awesome in showing badass Laura facing off with Cyrus!!!

Sam sobbing to Jason about how much she loves him, yet again, while Jason gets tears in his eyes and thanks her for giving him a family. Yawn.  Well, that's the closest she has come to acknowledging that the life she envisioned with Jason is a fantasy, and that she had romanticized him/their past.  What "code" is she talking about?! This is the second mention of Morgan's death in two days! I guess it's good to know that Sam does in fact remember that Morgan died because of a bomb? Has there been some rumor or announcement that Morgan is being recast? Btw Sam, while Jason says he "can't leave the business," maybe one night while putting your daughter to bed you'll recall that her father did leave the business for your family. Sucks for you and your kids that you chose the wrong brother.

I'm amused that Carly snuck around the side of the Q mansion to ask Michael for forgiveness because she didn't want to face/deal with Monica being unhappy to see her.  I was also amused that Michael shut Carly down about her "impression" that Michael and Willow have gotten closer. UGH.

It was nice to see Willow have anger in her voice toward Sasha on the "slept with my boyfriend" line.  Um, Willow dear, you need more/much better girlfriends. I almost laughed that Michael looked sad/nervous that Willow wanted assurance they will always be friends first no matter what.  

[Linny]

Sam said all the right stuff in her break up with Jason today (stuff we've been screaming at her for years here), but what does it even matter? This 180° flip in attitude has come out of nowhere and I have full faith she'll just as easily flip back and be pro-Jason in due time. Her newfound concern for the safety of her kids doesn't feel genuine (showing Sam as a mother has never been the show's priority), and neither does her desire for a "normal" life (something she expressly rejected with Drew). This break up is a contrived obstacle because JaSam can't function as a settled couple; the only time there's any semblance of spark between them is when they're fighting and pining for each other. And I think as long as Jason and Sam exist on the show together, neither will be allowed to move on to someone else, making the break up even more moot. Sam will eventually eat her words and they'll get back together, and until then we'll have to watch her weep about the unfairness of a situation that Jason could change right now, if he cared to.

[dubbel zout]

Look at Michael, trying to set a boundary with his pushy mother! 

3 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Btw Sam, while Jason says he "can't leave the business," maybe one night while putting your daughter to bed you'll recall that her father did leave the business for your family. Sucks for you and your kids that you chose the wrong brother.

The Skirts of Oppression will always override any other good points Drew has.

[perkie1968]

As someone who despises JaSam with the heat of a thousand suns, today was excruciatingly painful.  Good lord, stop snivelling and break up already.  They're boo hooing took up half the show.  I'm not even sure I can do a Paraphrase Hospital because it was just such weepy nonsense drivel.  They're ruining my fun.  

I was pleasantly suprised that we got the nugget that Martin and Cyrus are in fact brothers, though Martin is not happy about it.

Was also confused how Taggert's been running around town for two months, running into Julian, Jason, Sonny and Carly and yet Jordan had no clue until today.  Woman doesn't know what's going on in her own town.  Though, can i just say, I love her hair!!

19 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And news flash, Sam: Your kids will always be connected to Jason, so living apart won't guarantee they won't be collateral damage.

Yep, it's not like Cyrus would think to leave the wife/kids alone just because they broke up.  If he wants to get to Jason, that's the best way to get him, living toghether or not.  Also, unless KeMo is leaving the show, I think they're shutting up the fans who constantly mention Sam choosing Jason over her kids, by having her choose her kids, but I'm betting one of the kids will get hurt and it won't have anything to do with the mob, and she'll be all, apologetic, that they can get hurt even if it's not mob related.  

Edited December 9, 2020 by perkie1968

[statsgirl]

The "heartbreaking" talk between Sam and Jason and how this is who Jason is avoided saying the reality  which is that Jason is without question choosing Sonny and Carly over Sam. He's not an international doctor who has to go suddenly to a dangerous outbreak of Ebola, or a first responder who is risking his life during a Covid pandemic or saves people during a fire. He's a mob enforcer, neither necessary or admirable. 

11 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

  Also, unless KeMo is leaving the show, I think they're shutting up the fans who constantly mention Sam choosing Jason over her kids, by having her choose her kids, but I'm betting one of the kids will get hurt and it won't have anything to do with the mob, and she'll be all, apologetic, that they can get hurt even if it's not mob related. 

More than that, one of them (probably Danny because they can give him dialogue) will be in a dangerous situation and Jason will save him. Then Sam can be all upset that she deprived her kids of Jason and Carly can do her "I told you so, you're not worth wiping his shoes on" to her.

59 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

 It's not up to Sonny to decide that Leo is better off without his father, which I'm sure is what Sonny will say. Ugh, it's so gross Sonny is the moral compass this fakakta show.

They've built GH on The Sopranos but that show never pretended that Tony was anything other than a mob boss.

Is Cyrus commenting that Laura's "wild streak" is like his own supposed to make us think that he's her half-brother?

I can't find who said it but kudos to the person who said that it looks like they're re-doing Sonny/Ric with Cyrus/Martin with the stronger brother being the mob boss and the weaker one the lawyer.

Every time they went to Michael/Carly/Willow/Sasha, any momentum came to a screeching halt. "That group and meeting Michael made a huge difference in my life." Maybe not talk to Sasha about how great having Michael in your life is, Willow.

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Was also confused how Taggert's been running around town for two months, running into Julian, Jason, Sonny and Carly and yet Jordan had no clue until today.  Woman doesn't know what's going on in her own town. 

What? Did they retcon that Taggert called her and they had that conversation on the dock? That's what led to Taggert fighting with Julian, when he was going to maybe kill her. This FAKAKTA show.

3 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

As someone who despises JaSam with the heat of a thousand suns, today was excruciatingly painful.  Good lord, stop snivelling and break up already.  They're boo hooing took up half the show.  I'm not even sure I can do a Paraphrase Hospital because it was just such weepy nonsense drivel.  

I haven't seen this yet, but just based on the comments, I can't help but think of Jaysus and Robin's first break up. Now THAT was a break up. UGLY TEARS. From Jaysus! Someone should create a side-by-side, thus proving that ROBIN was the Love of his misbegotten life. SHE was the ONE he left the mob for during that short time. Nobody else. Only Robin.

 

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

Can not 1 Port Charles resident die and stay dead?  If they're going to keep bringing dead people back, they should go totally random and bring back Dawn Winthrop, or Dominique.  

AJ, Georgie, Emily, Zander, Rick Webber. SWSNBN. Most sincerely dead. Most recently, Nathan, Mike, Neal.

[Hater]

I agree with @perkie1968 that break up was exhaustingly bad.  Even something I looked forward to finally see and it managed to be boring and lame.  Between all the sighing, sobbing, sniffles etc.....it was definitely painful and not in a good way.  Although, yes Steve is good at crying.

We all know Sam will be back in his clutches eventually.   Also agree one of the kids will get into a car accident or something like Jake did once and it won't have anything to do with the mob.  The tune will be "danger can happen to anyone."

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Hater

[perkie1968]

9 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Did they retcon that Taggert called her and they had that conversation on the dock?

Not necessarily.  The day on the docks she told him to get the hell back to wherever he was in hiding and then she stormed off.  Moments later, he was in the confrontation with Julian, got shot, was found by Jason and taken to the safe house and nursed back to health by Pif.  Then SaSon had him stashed in a safehouse and then at Connie's old place next door.  But during that time he's been running around town, and Jordan never came across him nor was she told by SaSon that he was around.  It's just been so long since that night on the docks (sometime in September) that it's ridiculous that she never came across him.  

Edited December 9, 2020 by perkie1968

[Katy M]

14 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

AJ, Georgie, Emily, Zander, Rick Webber.

AJ came back once, though, and they created a lookalike for Emily.  

 

15 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Most recently, Nathan, Mike, Neal.

As for Mike, of course,they'll leave old people dead (although Edward did get one back from the dead), and hte others, well, we'll see.

[ulkis]

I think this break up might last for quite a while but at this point I don't think either SB or KM can generate chemistry with anyone so it's not like they'll be much hotter with other people. At least something happened I guess. 

Also her reasoning is kind of dumb because this was one situation in which some of the victims had nothing to do with the mob. Cyrus could blow up the arcade next.

Edited December 9, 2020 by ulkis

[AryasMum]

3 hours ago, Katy M said:

Can not 1 Port Charles resident die and stay dead?  If they're going to keep bringing dead people back, they should go totally random and bring back Dawn Winthrop, or Dominique.  

We can assume BJ is dead dead, but she wouldn’t be the only dead organ donor to be secretly alive on this show. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

AJ came back once, though, and they created a lookalike for Emily.  

Well, you did ask.

And Emily having a twin isn't the same as resurrecting the same character.

[YaddaYadda]

59 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Also her reasoning is kind of dumb because this was one situation in which some of the victims had nothing to do with the mob. Cyrus could blow up the arcade next.

Well two of the victims were connected to Sonny. But I think the broader point that Sam was making was that the Rib was bombed to hell because of Jason, because he was there. The bomb was going to follow Jason wherever he went because he was the target. 

I find it extremely pathetic that Sam wasn't expecting Jason to fight for her. It's pathetic that she tried to hang on to this jerk and this relationship for so long knowing how low in the list of priority she was. 

I don't know what they will do with the character. She has no relationships outside Jason. Her sisters are barely on, she has no friends, no job . . . 

So Cyrus and Martin are siblings. Martin mentioned Cyrus changing his last name. Did he say if they were half-brothers or full brothers? I missed that part, although Cyrus seemed to hint that he and Laura were related with that wild streak he talked about. Martin is not a very brave man, is he. 

I'm glad to see Curtis and Laura teaming up. I'm glad he'll be away from Jordan. I don't even dislike Jordan, but she manages to make Curtis uninteresting.

The Willow / Sasha scenes were not bad. I liked that Willow talked about her experience in counselling, although I think she should have gone back after she found out her son had really died, as opposed to forming an even more unhealthy attachment to Wylie.

[Cheyanne11]

5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I don't know what they will do with the character. She has no relationships outside Jason. Her sisters are barely on, she has no friends, no job . . . 

And if Julian is out, she can't even park herself at Charlie's just to tell her father how much he disgusts her.

Oh...I just realized we're probably going to be subjected to scenes of Spinelli pleading "Stone Cold"'s case to "Fair Samantha."  

[Katy M]

16 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Well, you did ask.

And Emily having a twin isn't the same as resurrecting the same character.

True.  And, of course, not everybody comes back from the dead. But, the rate has steadily gotten higher and it's getting ridiculous.  It used to be taht the only people who came back from the dead, were those that died in explosions or fell of boats, where there was no body.  Places where they specifically left it open because they knew they might want to bring the character back some day.  Now, it's a free for all, where people who have been laying dead and buried in front of dozens of loved ones after an open casket viewing just come back. 

[KayVeeTeeVee]

On 12/7/2020 at 5:27 PM, dubbel zout said:

It doesn't help that nearly all of Michael's women seem to need him to validate them, but CD is anti-chemistry with every woman he's paired with. He's very uncomfortable with love scenes, and it really shows onscreen. And Michael as a character is hardly passionate anyway.

But, but . . . he is the CEO of now a second company.  Never went to college, studied business, apprenticed under Ned or Tracy . . . never goes to the office . . . what a catch!

 

[KayVeeTeeVee]

19 hours ago, Daisy said:

I've been watching clips again (so i am behind. (again). - so did Carly do something re: Sasha/Chase/Willow/Michael? 

I was watching Sam tell Jason don't come back home, and i was literally wondering - that's not how it should have gone. What Sam should have said was this: "If you love your children, you will not leave. We will have family night. We will try to live normal lives. I get it will be difficult, but you will put them first. You will not run when Carly whinges, you will not say "how high" when Sonny barks at you. If you feel you need to play all mobsters and get revenge on Julian for stuff that you've done yourself - then please know that you are no longer welcome in this house and you are not going to be around your children. Period." 

like lay it out there. 

Not like it matters because i've seen this song and dance with Carly and Sonny 999999 times, and considering Carly still makes kids with Sonny after having a bullet in her brain because of him, Michael being shot and in a coma because of him, and Morgan murdered because of him. i really don't care because we all know it won't stick. And I just have to laugh that Sonny needs to murder Julian for knowing about Jonah/Wiley and in the back of my head.... i just keep thinking y'all did it first with Michael and AJ. get over yourselves. 

I want to marry this post.

[KayVeeTeeVee]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

What? Did they retcon that Taggert called her and they had that conversation on the dock? That's what led to Taggert fighting with Julian, when he was going to maybe kill her. This FAKAKTA show.

I haven't seen this yet, but just based on the comments, I can't help but think of Jaysus and Robin's first break up. Now THAT was a break up. UGLY TEARS. From Jaysus! Someone should create a side-by-side, thus proving that ROBIN was the Love of his misbegotten life. SHE was the ONE he left the mob for during that short time. Nobody else. Only Robin.

 

AJ, Georgie, Emily, Zander, Rick Webber. SWSNBN. Most sincerely dead. Most recently, Nathan, Mike, Neal.

Wait!  Rick Webber died?

[GHScorpiosRule]

12 minutes ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

Wait!  Rick Webber died?

Yes. When Genie left the show in 2002, and they made her cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, Rick came back. And when he was trying to sedate her, Laura’s memory of the time Rick had that affair blurred with current day and she killed him. Of course the “memory” was a retcon and INSULT, but Guzasshole wanted her gone. That ARSEHOLE brought Rick back just to kill him off.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Bitter? Who, me? What gave you that idea?

[ffwbe]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And if Julian is out, she can't even park herself at Charlie's just to tell her father how much he disgusts her.

Oh...I just realized we're probably going to be subjected to scenes of Spinelli pleading "Stone Cold"'s case to "Fair Samantha."  

I’m betting just more scenes of Sam talking/scolding her mom for drinking until they rush her and Jason back together. How they’ll do that without making her look like a terrible mother, I don’t know. From yesterday and today’s dialogue, they’ve established the danger, which she might have accepted but her kids didn’t, and that Jason is an absent father. They aren’t going to have him leave the mob and choose his family over Carly, Sonny and their kids.  

[Daisy]

is there something wrong with KeMo's eyes? Like why can't she open them wide anymore?