Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[YaddaYadda]

So they brought Lulu out of her coma to talk about my daughter and tell Tracy to give her money for her search? Really? I wish Tracy didn't love Lulu so much. Because Lulu, frankly, sucks.

I think Nina described Willow and Drew's relationship best. He has a hold on her. Get your daughter help, Nina. You can get the girl out of the cult, but not the cult out of the girl.

So they're going to ship Michael to Russia? It made me laugh. And is Carly going to ask Ava for information on the clinic or a favor, because that's also be hilarious.

The trio of Lucky, Elizabeth and Lucas was not bad. Guys, Cyrus is a bible thumping psychopath. That's where you start. But the reason he killed Dex is because Dex could place him on Sam's floor. If I remember the flashback of him injecting Sam, I think he walked into her room dressed as a civilian.

[TVbitch]

Sigh, I love Tracy, but smug Tracy is my least favorite Tracy. 

Is a hospital not obligated to tell the police that someone tried to murder a patient? Between Portia, Joss, Lucky, Elizabeth, Lucas, Isaiah, et al., half the town is aware there's a killer in the hospital ~but not the cops!

 

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Is a hospital not obligated to tell the police that someone tried to murder a patient? Between Portia, Joss, Lucky, Elizabeth, Lucas, Isaiah, et al., half the town is aware there's a killer in the hospital ~but not the cops!

 

You would think. Meanwhile someone tried to kill Michael while his family were arguing in the hallway while his doctors looked on awkwardly. Are going to tell anyone in the family? Or the cops especially since Michael was injured  when someone tried to blow up Sonny's ugly penthouse.

Edited Wednesday at 01:43 AM by nilyank

[Mirabelle]

This is shallow and I know it's going to make me sound like a certain type of grandma, but Eden McCoy's posture really annoys me. 

Where is the Old Testament God when you want him? He'd have no trouble striking down Carly and Sonny in the chapel. 

[JMO]

3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Is a hospital not obligated to tell the police that someone tried to murder a patient? Between Portia, Joss, Lucky, Elizabeth, Lucas, Isaiah, et al., half the town is aware there's a killer in the hospital ~but not the cops!

 

Dante, the detective, is aware of how Sam died.  Anna, the commissioner, is aware that Dex's death was unexpected.  The police already know.  I don't know why the Triple L detective agency, and the co-chief-of-staff are pretending otherwise.

Edited Wednesday at 02:00 AM by JMO

[Cheyanne11]

5 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The only good thing is the writers made clear that Tracy is refusing to let the kids go because of Monica, not because she is suddenly invested in Michael or his children.

Nope, I think that's bullshit, too.  Monica has no say in where those kids live/who has custody of them.  And just because she's sad doesn't mean the children's mother has to relinquish custody.  Ugh, this fucking story.

Love Liz, Lucky, and Lucas teaming up to puzzle out what's going on at GH. Girl Detective, not so much.  

[Artsda]

So Lulu goes to the Q's to get money from Tracy. No checking on her son living in the house? No hello even?

Team Nina going after Drew. She and Carly have the same opinion on him is rare. 

Nice Dante there for his brother and dad. Finally. 

I hate Willow, but Sasha is the cook who slept with Michael before Willow cheated and is hiding an adultery baby.  She's got quite a high horse.  She has no room to throw stones or stick her nose in Willows life or her children's lives or stick her nose in their custody. Who is she to tell Willow to leave? She's hired help. 

Things didn't work out with your cousin. Lol 

So Lucky and Liz know about Michael digitalis but not willow, Carly or Sonny. 

 

[Bringonthedrama]

7 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Nope, I think that's bullshit, too.  Monica has no say in where those kids live/who has custody of them.  And just because she's sad doesn't mean the children's mother has to relinquish custody.  Ugh, this fucking story.

Tracy and Monica both know that Monica has no say regarding custody and where the kids live. Tracy acknowledged that to nuLulu once Martin left. Tracy said she doesn't care about possibly being in legal trouble. Her perspective seems to be she is really worried about Monica's physical and mental health and thinks keeping the great grandchildren there gives Monica some measure of happiness. 

[ciarra]

Isn't this Tracy custody argument just an excuse to move Willow into the main house?  Where she might discover that Sasha is pregnant.   Where she might be around skeevy!Drew, and not within the disapproving sight of Nina. 

[FilmTVGeek80]

Ugh, there were so many aggravating people today.

Shut up, LuLu. It was unbelievable that she said that since Dante is Michael's brother, neither he nor anyone else on the force would—you know— DO THEIR JOB and uphold the law. That Martin seemed to buy it doesn't say much about him either. Willow isn't trying to take the kids from Michael, who is unconscious in the hospital. 

Shut up, Tracy. How she acted today seemed like almost the reverse of the AJ situation. The way she asserted that the kids were Qs so they belonged in that house. No, they belong with their parents. If one of those parents lives in that house, so be it. Otherwise, it's none of her business. And who exactly has temporary custody anyway? If it's not Tracy, why is anyone acting like she has any say?

Shut up, Sasha. The custody of those kids is none of her freaking husband. Her marching in there and acting like she had any right to tell those kids where to go was annoying. That she had the gall to stand their all full of self-righteous judgment while she's standing there pregnant with Willow's husband's child. It's even more funny given that Sasha's last conversation with Michael was her begging him to stay out of their kids' lives. So she gets to make all the decisions about her kid, but she will decide to interfere with Willow and her kids. I wish Willow had smacked the smug off her face. I did love the love the line about things not working out with her cousin.

[pinkandsparkly13]

I still hate Tracy after all these years. 🙄

[KerleyQ]

JE and MEK look like they're enjoying the hell out of the chance to work together. I don't think I've seen that twinkle in MEK's eyes since his Tad the Cad days. 

I have so many problems with like everything Sasha said. 

1) Barging into Willow's home (which it still is until divorce/separation proceedings say otherwise), and giving orders about where Willow's children go. Not your place, honey. 

2) Lecturing Willow about how she's keeping parents away from their child, while she's all in on helping the efforts to separate Willow and her kids. 

3) Acting like Willow was going to make harmful medical decisions about Michael just to spite him/his family.  Willow never refused to authorize needed care, she just said that, if her kids were being kept from her, then she wasn't going to let them see Michael or be involved in the decisions. 

4) Intervening to keep the kids at the Q estate when she, herself, is actively hiding from the Q's that she's pregnant with a Q baby, because she doesn't want her baby to be raised as part of the family. The hypocrisy of it all. 

I kind of love that Willow was finally showing some backbone with someone in those scenes. She so rarely shows her backbone to anyone, except for her old "we're about to find out you're my mother, so I must hate you" over the top anger at Nina. 

But, who has custody of the kids now?  Michael is incapacitated. I assumed that Diane was going to the court to get custody for Carly, on Michael's behalf. But, they got sent back to the gate house to stay with the nanny?  

I loved everything about the Liz/Lucky/Lucas scenes. I'll be happy if we get a lot of the three of them working together to figure out what's happening at the hospital and less of Joss solving the case and saving the day. 

[Bringonthedrama]

7 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So the PCPD isn't going to intercede on a family keeping children away from their only conscious parent because...reasons?  ISTG, this fucking show.  

 

7 hours ago, Desperado said:

After assisting in taking them away, to boot. Yep, this f*cking show. 

We don't know if the PCPD will or won't intercede; nuLulu was mouthing off to support Tracy but nobody actually contacted the police.

1 hour ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Shut up, LuLu. It was unbelievable that she said that since Dante is Michael's brother, neither he nor anyone else on the force would—you know— DO THEIR JOB and uphold the law. That Martin seemed to buy it doesn't say much about him either. Willow isn't trying to take the kids from Michael, who is unconscious in the hospital. 

I was really disappointed that neither Tracy nor Martin seemed to realize/remember that Det. Harrison Chase, who escorted the social worker to Nina's to get the kids, is BLQ's husband and lives right there in the Q mansion. When Martin mentioned calling the police, I wanted him to open the door and bellow in the direction of the stairs, "Det. Chase, are you home? You're needed downstairs!" Although it would be a very awkward day for Chase if he had to arrest both his grandmother-in-law and the mayor's attorney brother for disorderly conduct. 

I agree it's not up to nuLulu to speak for Dante or anyone else on the PCPD. 

[absnow54]

5 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I was really disappointed that neither Tracy nor Martin seemed to realize/remember that Det. Harrison Chase, who escorted the social worker to Nina's to get the kids, is BLQ's husband and lives right there in the Q mansion. When Martin mentioned calling the police, I wanted him to open the door and bellow in the direction of the stairs, "Det. Chase, are you home? You're needed downstairs!"

They should have just leaned into the fact that Martin was going off a verbal agreement from Sonny that Willow could have the kids, and that the police couldn’t enforce anything without a court order. But also, Chase would totally oblige to Martin’s request while Tracy harped at him about family loyalty. 

 

8 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Shut up, Sasha. The custody of those kids is none of her freaking husband. Her marching in there and acting like she had any right to tell those kids where to go was annoying. That she had the gall to stand their all full of self-righteous judgment while she's standing there pregnant with Willow's husband's child. It's even more funny given that Sasha's last conversation with Michael was her begging him to stay out of their kids' lives.

I get such whiplash from Sasha’s judgmental scenes against Willow. The hypocrisy is astounding. Girl, this is the exact scenario you were trying to avoid by sneaking off with Michael’s love child to Florida. Now you’re actively enforcing it. I am by no means on Willow’s side, but I can’t wait for her to find out about Sasha’s baby and really lean into her on it. 

[YaddaYadda]

10 hours ago, JMO said:

Dante, the detective, is aware of how Sam died.  Anna, the commissioner, is aware that Dex's death was unexpected.  The police already know.  I don't know why the Triple L detective agency, and the co-chief-of-staff are pretending otherwise.

I'm not sure that Dante knows that Sam received digitalis and that it killed her. Alexis wasn't even informed of it for that matter.

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, Artsda said:

So Lulu goes to the Q's to get money from Tracy. No checking on her son living in the house? No hello even?

Wait, Lulu has a son? /s

10 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Willow isn't trying to take the kids from Michael, who is unconscious in the hospital. 

According to the Carlys she is, and that's all that matters.

9 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

3) Acting like Willow was going to make harmful medical decisions about Michael just to spite him/his family.  Willow never refused to authorize needed care, she just said that, if her kids were being kept from her, then she wasn't going to let them see Michael or be involved in the decisions. 

Whatever problems Willow has with Michael, he's the father of her kids and she's going to make sure they have him for as long as possible. She's never given any indication otherwise that she wouldn't agree to needed treatment for him. It says a lot about the people making that assumption. That's what they'd do, for sure.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Lucky? Just quit that bartending job. Your next career path is definitely PI!!!!

I loved, and I mean LOVEDLOVEDLOVED the side eye and the "well, yes you are" to Mini Cujo's "sorry to interrupt", but being the polite gentleman he is, let her shove her face into a conversation that was none of her business. And then dismissing him as if he's her peon?! Fuck that NOISE. Also loved Lucky, NuLucas, and Elizabeth putting their heads together to figure what the angle is of Cyrus killing sick and healthy people. Well "WE" the viewers can surmise why Sam and Dex; but the SLS and never seen Sylvie?

And of course Cujo would be wailing like a banshee, throwing accusations at Willow, that she herself has done. How lightning didn't strike and annihilate her where she stood, I'll never understand. This is the SAME heifer that kept the SLS from his father, AJ, and the rest of his Quartermaine family; same one, who, in very disappointing actions, who got the willing collusion of Monica and Bobbie, to prevent Nelle from having any say in Wiley's surgery.

But as others have said, it's the Cult of the Cujo and she can never lose. And that conversation about scars? Good Lord; his FACE is FINE. But this is Cujo and of course the point of those words was for Jaysus to remind her of that place where Ava and he himself were treated.

And Cujo  WISHES, and still does that she and Jayus' boinking would have resulted in a spawn. That whole conversation was just nauseating.

Sasha needs to take SEVERAL SEATS and mind her own fucking business. Others have already stated, more eloquently than I could, but how she could stand there, KNOWING she's carrying the SLS's spawn and that her night of boinking him was due to him upset over ONE kiss. Yeah, yeah, Willow and Drew boinked later, but still. And she has NO RIGHTS over Wiley and Amelia.

And NuNuShrewLuLu can also STFU.

I am so not looking forward to Emma with Attitude today.

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:00 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But this is Cujo and of course the point of those words was for Jaysus to remind her of that place where Ava and he himself was treated.

Those miracle cure places all tend to blend together in my memory but I did wonder if there is anyone presumed dead they might discover there? Mildly intrigued by the possibility. 

12 hours ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

I still hate Tracy after all these years. 🙄

Yesterday did bring back some unpleasant memories. I've been enjoying kinder, gentler Tracy so much. It was disappointing.  

[Sake614]

3 minutes ago, tessaray said:

Those miracle cure places all tend to blend together in my memory but I did wonder if there is anyone presumed dead they might discover there? Mildly intrigued by the possibility.

Spencer, but I don’t think they’re interested in bringing him back.

[Suicidy]

On 1/14/2025 at 2:09 AM, Grinaldi said:

F$#@ it. Say Emily has been chilling in the same place Monica hid AJ and bring her back. 

Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)

Or hell, give it to Yuri. He has been hanging out with her for a long time.

Tracy can't get the house. That would betray Edward, Alan and to some extent Lila. And Monica respects Jason too much to hand him that white elephant.

There's story in Drew getting it but he's so odious now that would rub the audience the wrong way. 

It'll probably be Michael which, meh. But if it is, I hope there's some sort of stipulation in the will that Carly can never live on the property and Sonny can only visit for 90 minutes on national holidays and every other birthday. 

I'd also love it if included with the will was a signed affidavit stating that from her window, Monica witnessed Sonny shooting Jagger Cates.

Or just put the estate in a family trust, with all the Quartermaines as members.  Which probably would have happened on the real world years ago, for tax purposes.

[tessaray]

1 minute ago, Sake614 said:

Spencer, but I don’t think they’re interested in bringing him back.

It's funny, I didn't even consider him because I always figured the Cassadine minions would be the ones harboring him. And it's unlikely that tptb would tie him to Michael's eventual return. 

Britt would make me happy. But the character got quite a send off, so it's just wishful thinking.

[Suicidy]

16 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Nope, I think that's bullshit, too.  Monica has no say in where those kids live/who has custody of them.  And just because she's sad doesn't mean the children's mother has to relinquish custody.  Ugh, this fucking story.

Love Liz, Lucky, and Lucas teaming up to puzzle out what's going on at GH. Girl Detective, not so much.  

Willow should have just grabbed the kids and left with them. What the Hell was Tracy going to do about it?

[MarciNJ]

21 hours ago, Desperado said:

In other news, I think we might be looking at another round of Nina/Sonny. They could be interesting to me, especially if the character is finally moving away from the coffee mob.

worth it, just to see Carly's head explode

[dubbel zout]

32 minutes ago, Suicidy said:

Willow should have just grabbed the kids and left with them. What the Hell was Tracy going to do about it?

But Sasha had made the special Great-grandmother Monica cookies that the kids had to eat that very second. The excuse should have been that Monica was awake at that moment and wanted to see the kids. Willow could be torn between not wanting the kids at the mansion (possession being nine-tenths of the law) and wanting them to see Monica. Sasha could still get in her judgey rant.

[MarciNJ]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

Those miracle cure places all tend to blend together in my memory but I did wonder if there is anyone presumed dead they might discover there? Mildly intrigued by the possibility.

Spencer, but I don’t think they’re interested in bringing him back.

AJ?

[GHScorpiosRule]

Just now, MarciNJ said:

AJ?

No, we saw him walk through the pearly gates.

But then again, this is a soap, where people whose organs were harvested came back to life.

[mostlylurking]

16 hours ago, Artsda said:

Team Nina going after Drew. She and Carly have the same opinion on him is rare. 

Nice Dante there for his brother and dad. Finally. 

I hate Willow, but Sasha is the cook who slept with Michael before Willow cheated and is hiding an adultery baby.  She's got quite a high horse. 

I loved Nina repeatedly trying to kick Drew out.  She has his number.  And yeah, Sasha really is in no position to go after Willow.“ Things didn’t work out with your cousin”. Heh.

Totally love Tracy but I hated her trying to hold onto the kids when she has no leg to stand on.  This is not her place.

[statsgirl]

22 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Yep. Plus NuLulu told Martin that she doubts Det. Dante Falconeri or his PCPD colleagues will help take the children away from his brother's home. Martin left, telling them "it's not over",

NuLulu, have you met Dante? He may not like the idea but he will follow the law.

The number of cheating, murderous people on the show is annoying but I REALLY hate how many people are willing to ignore the law on big things (not just little things like parking illegally) if it suits them.

21 hours ago, JMO said:

I don't understand why Nina thinks Sonny and Carly couldn't see Michael just because Tracy got in the way of Willow retrieving the kids.  That's not the nature of the agreement. 

It is the only bargaining chip that Willow has right now. The agreement is that Willow gets to have her kids, and Carly and Sonny get to see theirs.

16 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Tracy said she doesn't care about possibly being in legal trouble. Her perspective seems to be she is really worried about Monica's physical and mental health and thinks keeping the great grandchildren there gives Monica some measure of happiness. 

That's stupid of Tracy. Monica is sick, either too sick to see the children or she's going to be kept awake by their noise. Monica knows that Willow isn't a bad mother and anyone with any decency should realize that if the kids can't see their father, the best thing for them is to be with their mother.

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Whatever problems Willow has with Michael, he's the father of her kids and she's going to make sure they have him for as long as possible. She's never given any indication otherwise that she wouldn't agree to needed treatment for him. It says a lot about the people making that assumption. That's what they'd do, for sure.

It surely does. But we know that Sonny and Carly have a history of that already.

[DanaK]

An ABC special news report is interrupting my 2pm showing with the president giving remarks; hopefully the news breakin doesn’t last to interrupt the 3pm showing as well

[tessaray]

36 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

AJ?

Wouldn't that be something? But without Monica and with the Carlys in control, it would probably be a disaster. 

[dubbel zout]

Pretty sure AJ is still fat, so he won't be back.

[statsgirl]

I'd love AJ back to lead the Quartermaines, especially with Monica gone and Ned barely on.  Carly telling Jason that he should have been Michael's father set the stage for it.

So Tracy and Jason are willing to hurt Michael for Monica's sake? Tracy refusing to let go of the kids is ridiculous. Monica would never want the kids to be kept from their mother, she's not the vindictive kind that Carly, Joss and Diane are.

If the clinic is Russia has closed, did they not publish their research? Because that's what doctors do.

Soap opera rule: when a bet is a sure thing, you're going to lose.

Emma and Gio have no chemistry. Please don't force that on us.

They're doing a nice job with Lucky and Liz.

I loved Anna telling Girl Detective she's warned Cyrus which tracks to cover.

And Cyrus' Pax vobiscum.

[Bringonthedrama]

 FYI - Today's episode stopped a few minutes in due to President Biden's announcement about the Israel/Hamas ceasefire deal and then reporters doing their jobs. However, @GHScorpiosRule you'll love Elizabeth's line to Lucky 😂 as they're sitting in the restaurant (not Bobbie's!) together looking like a couple out on a date. She got her line out, he looked over at Cyrus, and then the news cut in.

Show back on at 2:28. DAMN feel the burnnn! Gooo Tracy!! First to Sonny, about the murder of AJ so that Monica can't see her son and to Jason, about telling Monica to her face that you're going to take her great grandchildren away. That entire guilt trip that made Jason get all teary, was amazing. He more than had it coming for decades. JE is such a gem!  Jason choosing Monica's love for the kids over Sonny/Michael and Tracy tearfully hugging him was just a woowww moment. And Sonny clutching his chest again by the Qs front door as he leaves (alone) has such a ring of karma to it.

Loved seeing Lucky persuade Elizabeth that they should stay and enjoy their dinner together (after Cyrus had been escorted out). Hopefully she's getting the hint that Lucky sees her in a more-than-friends/exes kind of way. It's so nice to see them both wearing nice clothes, having a heartfelt conversation, and agreeing to do things "our" way.

Joss demonstrates she's dumber than a box of rocks. She deserved Anna yelling at her.

I LOVE the preview of Tracy letting Carly have it when she shows up at the Q mansion. I can't tell if she's yelling at Carly about Monica, or Bobbie. 

ETA: Carly and her WSB buddy were on and so were Cody/Sasha, Gio/Trina and Felicia/nuEmma in a bar scene but I didn't watch/pay attention due to not caring about these characters and also boredom. 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:40 PM by Bringonthedrama

[Daisy]

Y'all it has to be because i'm sick.  but the tears that came when Jason chose Monica over Sonny and Carly, and Tracy hugging him and saying Alan would have been proud. I don't know if it's because Leslie's passed away or some part of me has wanted this for so long but it felt. so. good.  it made me like Jason for like a nanosecond. Yeah I'm sick. that must be it. 

 

(but seriously the cackle that I cackled when Tracy flat out told Sonny that Monica would love to see her son but Sonny murdered him. GET HIM TRACY).  

But i don't know why this is even an issue. why can't Willow just stay on the property?

[Cheyanne11]

2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

But i don't know why this is even an issue. why can't Willow just stay on the property?

Because she is evil and must be banished!

Seriously, take this bullshit to court, Willow.  All well and good that Jason chose the Qs over Sonny and Carly, but just as I hate Corinthii baby hoarding, same goes for the Qs.

[statsgirl]

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

But i don't know why this is even an issue. why can't Willow just stay on the property?

Because everyone there hates her and would be berating her about Drew all the time?

Tracy won't let Wylie and Amelia go with their mother because she wants the Quartmaine children with Monica but no one cares about Scout living alone with her father in a hotel room?  And Tracy is also okay with Michael not having his family around him? I thought that she liked Michael.

The stupid burns. Willow needs to charge Tracy for kidnapping.

[GHScorpiosRule]

27 minutes ago, Daisy said:

But i don't know why this is even an issue. why can't Willow just stay on the property?

Because the SLS served her with divorce papers. It would be different if they lived on another street NOT on Quartermaine property/grounds.

And how would she and and Drew continue to carry on their affair?

22 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I thought that she liked Michael.

Not really. She even said yesterday that she has no use for him, but he's a Quartermaine or some such about why she's insistent on having the kids there.

Edited Wednesday at 09:11 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[Bringonthedrama]

2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 but the tears that came when Jason chose Monica over Sonny and Carly, and Tracy hugging him and saying Alan would have been proud. I don't know if it's because Leslie's passed away or some part of me has wanted this for so long but it felt. so. good. 

It was amazing!! Watching Tracy hug him and he let her, and they were both crying - just blew me away. They must have known LC was gravely/terminally ill and not returning to the Show.  The scene(s) felt like a set-up for Monica spending her last moments in the near future off-screen with her great grandchildren. Jason staying in the mansion while Sonny leaves and then clutches his chest, was a shocker. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Soap opera rule: when a bet is a sure thing, you're going to lose.

It's not that unusual IRL, either, lol.

I hate that Anna is indulging Girl Detective, but on the other hand, Anna isn't in tears. It's not quite a fair tradeoff, but I'll take it for the time being.

I wish Cyrus had told Joss that if she kept on, he'd sue her for slander.

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Jason choosing Monica's love for the kids over Sonny/Michael and Tracy tearfully hugging him was just a woowww moment.

I don't care how much truth Tracy laid on Sonny. Neither she nor Monica have any legal standing to keep the kids away from Willow. And it's not as if the kids have rarely been to see Monica. They practically lived at the mansion for ages. Once again, going the nuclear route is the problem here. (Not just Tracy's actions; the whole divorce/custody situation.)

Also, OF COURSE they're upstairs. They're always upstairs. I don't expect Sonny to know that, but Jason should. He's been living there for a few weeks now.

Regardless, Sonny needs to drop dead right now.

24 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Tracy won't let Wylie and Amelia go with their mother because she wants the Quartmaine children with Monica but no one cares about Scout living alone with her father in a hotel room?  And Tracy is also okay with Michael not having his family around him? I thought that she liked Michael.

I guess they don't consider Scout a "real" Quartermaine, so it doesn't matter what happens to her. I think Tracy's feelings for Michael depend on his actions in the moment, which is fair, IMO. He decides to be a Q when it suits him.

Edited Wednesday at 09:13 PM by dubbel zout
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[mostlylurking]

24 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Y'all it has to be because i'm sick.  but the tears that came when Jason chose Monica over Sonny and Carly, and Tracy hugging him and saying Alan would have been proud. I don't know if it's because Leslie's passed away or some part of me has wanted this for so long but it felt. so. good.  it made me like Jason for like a nanosecond. Yeah I'm sick. that must be it. 

 

(but seriously the cackle that I cackled when Tracy flat out told Sonny that Monica would love to see her son but Sonny murdered him. GET HIM TRACY).  

Although I hate the premise of why this is happening I have to say I love that it finally DID happen.  Jason crying?  Tracy pleading with him?  Sonny having heart palps?  LOVES IT.

[Bringonthedrama]

28 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

but no one cares about Scout living alone with her father in a hotel room? 

I watched enough of the Alexis-Drew scene to understand that he took Scout with him because he's decided she stays with him no matter what - if the Qs are determined that he can't live there and won't just get over what he did when they've done worse, than they don't get to keep Scout. (It also sounds like he wants to use Scout to entice Willow's maternal feelings; i.e. "Willow would love to be your mommy now".) He won't even consider letting her live with Grandma Alexis temporarily either.

17 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't care how much truth Tracy laid on Sonny. Neither she nor Monica have any legal standing to keep the kids away from Willow.

I agree with you. My reaction was about Tracy's well-written guilt trip and the excellent acting from both JE and SB. I can't even recall ever seeing them both show emotion in a scene together. I found them believable as aunt and nephew for the first time. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:20 PM by Bringonthedrama

[YaddaYadda]

I felt sorry for Scout. Living in a hotel, away from her brothers. I guess she doesn't matter as much as the others.

Drew is scum. 

Carly calling yet another man to her rescue is so pathetic. Brennan find me a clinic, Jason go take the kids from Tracy. Honestly brave and strong is more like cowardly and weak. Please expand Brennan beyond the circle jerk that is Carly and her progeny.

Did Sonny's heart almost explode over Tracy and Jason agreeing? Because agree more and let him see you hug next time.

Edited Wednesday at 09:16 PM by YaddaYadda

[Daisy]

Just now, mostlylurking said:

Although I hate the premise of why this is happening I have to say I love that it finally DID happen.  Jason crying?  Tracy pleading with him?  Sonny having heart palps?  LOVES IT.

right?  (i kinda giggled when Sonny clutched his heart. it was like wait. I'm being betrayed by Jason that's not right!!)  I also liked that Jason hugged Tracy too. (that really might have been StBu hugging JE in that moment but again. my heart). 
 

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I LOVE the preview of Tracy letting Carly have it when she shows up at the Q mansion. I can't tell if she's yelling at Carly about Monica, or Bobbie. 

 

you've got to tell me what happens (you're really good lol but like at me tomorrow haha the YT clips are very sporadic so i might not get to see this and i am all for Carly getting lit up)

24 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Seriously, take this bullshit to court, Willow.  All well and good that Jason chose the Qs over Sonny and Carly, but just as I hate Corinthii baby hoarding, same goes for the Qs.

this is true  baby Hoarding is never bueno

24 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Because everyone there hates her and would be berating her about Drew all the time?

 

just stay in the gatehouse? 
(I acutally forgot that Willow was served divorced papers to be fair).

 

 

24 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Not really. She even said yesterday that she has no use for him, but he's a Quartermaine or some such about why she's insistent on having the kids there.

she said that during the whole insider trading thing too. She will give him due when he acts like a Q. but Michael specifically she gives zero poops about him as an individual. 

 

[JMO]

Will have to watch the full episode tonight, but just jumping on to wonder how Lucky and Liz are going to pay for their dinners at that upscale establishment.  She's on leave from her job and he may or may not have started bartending.  

I think this whole thing with Wiley and Amelia is poorly thought out on the part of the writers, and none of it makes any sense.  There were no grounds for isolating the kids from Willow.  Even if there had been, enough time has passed that she could have gone to court to get them officially back.  Until such time as they got this unlikely order overturned, nobody had a legal right to violate it, even if they were all in agreement.  The wrongly-made agreement was that Sonny and Carly would give the kids back and they would stay at Nina's.  No mention of any Quartermaines there, so the fact that it's the Quartermaines who have the kids and don't want to give them back should result in a call to the police and another visit to court.  There's no contract that says Willow has to hold access to Michael hostage until a third party gives the kids back, and no logical reason to consider this a tit-for-tat. 

This whole "Monica needs to see the kids" thing is ridiculous.  Those kids have been at the main house every day until Wiley went to DC with Willow and Drew.  While I would love to see Jason continue to soften, I don't think it should come about through cheap emotional blackmail.  

And Daisy, I'm sorry you're not feeling well.  Hope you're able to be on the mend soon.

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:25 PM by JMO

[CeChase]

21 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Although I hate the premise of why this is happening I have to say I love that it finally DID happen.  Jason crying?  Tracy pleading with him?  Sonny having heart palps?  LOVES IT.

LOL me too!  And wait till Carly finds out. 

[tessaray]

2 minutes ago, JMO said:

This whole "Monica needs to see the kids" thing is ridiculous.  Those kids have been at the main house every day until Wiley went to DC with Willow and Drew.  While I would love to see Jason continue to soften, I don't think it should come about through cheap emotional blackmail.  

I might have found the Jason and Tracy scene moving if the build-up had been better. Mostly I was rolling my eyes at the WTF-ery of Jason ever choosing anyone over Michael and Carly. Maybe there was something we missed during the breaking news?

[dubbel zout]

41 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I felt sorry for Scout. Living in a hotel, away from her brothers. I guess she doesn't matter as much as the others.

She definitely won the bummer-parents sweepstakes: Her mom is dead, and her dad is more interested in keeping his penis happy than his daughter.

Edited Wednesday at 09:57 PM by dubbel zout

[Daisy]

18 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

She definitely won the bummer-parents sweepstakes: Her mom is dead, and her dad is more interested in keeping his penis happy than his daughter.

too bad Spencer is dead. they could start a club

[statsgirl]

43 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I felt sorry for Scout. Living in a hotel, away from her brothers. I guess she doesn't matter as much as the others.

Girl-child.

47 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I watched enough of the Alexis-Drew scene to understand that he took Scout with him because he's decided she stays with him no matter what - if the Qs are determined that he can't live there and won't just get over what he did when they've done worse, than they don't get to keep Scout. (It also sounds like he wants to use Scout to entice Willow's maternal feelings; i.e. "Willow would love to be your mommy now".)

Oh Drew is totally using Scout to  hold on to Willow. It was fun watching him try to snow Nina about his and Willow's twue luv and how they shouldn't be kept apart. Drew is such a sleaze -- well done, writers.

But what bugs me is that the situation with Wylie&Amelia and with Scout is essentially the same -- they are Quartermaine children and both with a parent who are persona non grata in the Quartermaine house. But while Wylie and Amelia are essentially kidnapped and being held, no one cares about Scout, the girl whose mother just died and who was ripped from her brothers. It's not like Monica to care more about AJ's prodigy than Alan's other sons'.

[DanaK]

Based on the below ABC News press release for the Jan 20 Inauguration, it sounds like ABC News will be preempting regular programming starting at 9am ET for the rest of the day, preempting that day’s GH episode, though it doesn’t look like the show has said anything yet

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2025/01/15/abc-news-announces-special-coverage-of-the-second-inauguration-of-president-elect-donald-j-trump-368412/20250115abc01/