Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[KerleyQ]

4 hours ago, ljr said:

why is  it so important  to Drew to get custody of his nephews kids?

My super outlandish theory of the day is that when CM started in the role, he was really Drew, but some time after Drew ended things with Carly, he was kidnapped and NotDead Morgan took his place. And he has come back with a grudge against his family.  I'd pinpoint the first time we saw MorganDrew as his hookup with Nina, who he hooked up with specifically because she'd been his father's wife. Then he moved on to Willow to hurt Michael. 

Like I said, super outlandish, but there it is. And I remain convinced that, if he isn't Drew, whoever he is absolutely took over after Drew/Carly was over, because, of course, Carly wouldn't have fallen for a fake Drew. She's too brave and smart for that, you know. 

[YaddaYadda]

6 hours ago, ljr said:

why is  it so important  to Drew to get custody of his nephews kids?

So that he can control the Qs and Michael more specifically.

If Willow has full custody, then he has the kids under his roof all the time. If he kills Willow, which at this point, honestly, then her dumbass put him in charge of them.

 

[ChicksDigScars]

5 hours ago, nilyank said:

My bigger question is how Lulu was able to afford that house. Is she renting or did she buy it.

Prior to moving in, she only has worked at Deception for a few months and is now only a freelance Girl Reporter.

I dunno. Maybe she received some sort of inheritance when Luke died that was being held until she either woke up or died? (Guess which choice I prefer had happened?)

Just a superficial observation, but WHY does MB look like they dipped his head into a vat of black shoe polish? There's nothin wrong with being salt and peppered. It would be a hellava lot more realistic and sexy than that matte black mess slicked back. It's way too dark for his skin tone, even. Bite the bullet and stop the bad dye job. 

 

[Melgaypet]

19 hours ago, Perkie said:

She gave him a sob story about how if she went to jail, her mother would lose another daughter.  And since Alexis lost that daughter because she was giving Lucky's sister a part of her liver, he feels guilty.   

I get this, I do. And it's very much in Lucky's character to have sympathy for the underdog*, and play a bit of the white knight, especially for a young woman. (To be clear, I don't think Lucky is attracted to Kristina. He probably partly still sees her as that abused teenage girl. That can push his buttons.)

My big problem is the lying to Elizabeth about something that nearly killed her. My dude. Tell her the truth. Argue for compassion for Kristina if you must, but let Elizabeth - the one who was wronged** - make the decision to turn her in or not. (If I were Elizabeth? I would go to Alexis/Kristina and say Kristina checks herself into Shadybrooke or Ferncliff or wherever or I go to the cops.)

It's just so fucking lazy. They are barely back together and, look, here's a Big Lie that's going to tear them apart!

* I don't think Kristina is an underdog in this situation, but I can buy that Lucky does.

** And Ric. But I care about Ric's feelings about as much as Lucky does, tbh.

[Bringonthedrama]

7 hours ago, graight said:

Here I go again, but did Dante move into Lulu's new house?  He sure has a lot of meetings with people there while she's away (Kristina today).

It seems like he will, soon. NuLulu and Dante both behave like he belongs there esp. in the hours/days since both said they're in love with each other (although they haven't physically acted on it because he's still grieving and because Rocco was just in the hospital). Rocco and Danny are spending significant time there for chores as punishment as either Lulu or Dante direct them to do. 

The most likely scenario IMO is Dante needs space from Lois, Brook Lynn, Chase, etc. upon finding out about his son and the lies, so Lulu agrees that Rocco can live there permanently and Dante can stay as long as he wishes. Danny will probably continue to split his time because he wants to still sleep in the same house with Jason and spend time with him when Jason remembers to play dad.

As for today: So sweet to see 22-year-old Gio play his violin for his 6-year-old (?) Aunt Donna. Of course they are not yet aware that Gio is her nephew. It's also gross that Lois watches Gio with pride and is all "how cute" while withholding an important truth from Gio and the little girl. (I don't care that she's withholding from Sonny.) She and Gloria even lied to Gio about his real birthday. Ugh. I rolled my eyes at seeing Brook Lynn, Kristina, Sonny and Gio together and Gio saying "family." I assume he'll go to stay with Sonny when the secret blows up. 

Am I the only one who finds it weird that Lucas asked Elizabeth about romantic/sexy times between her and his cousin? Yes I know Lucas and Lucky aren't biologically related, but they were still raised as cousins. Interesting to hear Elizabeth confirm she's always been in love with Lucky but also say "I want to believe" she and Lucky can make a relationship work this time and references Luke calling him "cowboy."

How long has it been since JJ and NLG shared a scene? I hate that it was all about Kristina and protecting Alexis' daughters. Is this a set up for JJ to exit when his contract ends?

So Dante is still furious with Gio for not acting like an adult by calling him or Lulu when he saw Rocco unconscious. Dante wants to hold someone over age 18 responsible and Gio is the convenient plot point in this crappy storyline. 

I felt sorry for teary-eyed Rocco because you can see how horrible he feels about Dante being mad at both Gio and Danny. I know the "only" was supposed to be ironic and an anvil about Gio, but it made Dante sound like he doesn't consider Danny to be his child too. 

Lulu is being really smug upon assuming Brook Lynn lied in the confrontation, now that she has a confidante and supporter in Cody.

Preview: Now Drew wants Laura to be collateral damage in his plans? Ugh.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 07:31 PM by Bringonthedrama

[dubbel zout]

I hated everything about this episode.

[blondiek237]

I would love if when Dante is told--his response is "yeah, I knew that"

[Perkie]

 Well look at that.  You talk to enough people, you'll find one that will agree with your point of view.  So Lulu is now justifying her actions because Cody said he hated the lies of his childhood.  Well, I guess it's ok then.  And I love how she managed to talk herself into believing that Brook Lynn knew she had a boy and that she knows it's Gio.  Even though BLQ was clearly shocked when Lulu told her the baby was a boy and there has been zero reason to beleive BLQ knows that it's Gio.  

Who knows only that Brook Lynn had a baby and gave him up:  Lois, Gloria, Lulu, Martin, Carly, Cody, Chase, Brook Lynn,   Tracy and Jason

Who know that Dante is the baby daddy: All of them, except Tracy and Jason

Who knows or suspects, the baby is Gio:  Lois, Gloria, Lulu, (Carly and Cody via Lulu)

Who's going to confront Brook Lynn about the baby being Gio?  Lulu or Cody?

Who's going to spill the beans that Dante has a son out there?   Lulu or Cody?  

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I hated everything about this episode.

I LOVED the fact that Ava and Ric were smart enough to know Alexis was going to go to the storage facility and got there before and left her the note!!

1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

My big problem is the lying to Elizabeth about something that nearly killed her. My dude. Tell her the truth.

This is what will break them up and send him back to Africa.  They've had a mostly offscreen relationship.  I don't think they've even slept together, she nearly dies, he knows who did it, neither of them are seen onscreen for weeks, and then they're back and still stagnating, but she's telling Lucas that she doesn't think Lucky will stick around so she's worried about investing.  

I predict the truth that lucky knew and kept it from her will come out (at the Nurse's ball with everything else!!) and Lucky will be gone minutes later.  

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, Perkie said:

 Well look at that.  You talk to enough people, you'll find one that will agree with your point of view.  So Lulu is now justifying her actions because Cody said he hated the lies of his childhood.  Well, I guess it's ok then.  And I love how she managed to talk herself into believing that Brook Lynn knew she had a boy and that she knows it's Gio.  Even though BLQ was clearly shocked when Lulu told her the baby was a boy and there has been zero reason to beleive BLQ knows that it's Gio.  

You know how the writing goes on this show.

Lulu now believes that BLQ knows all this stuff, which means the audience will start getting gaslighted, in order to fall in line with Lulu's thinking.

[Fellaway]

Okay, this is driving me crazy. I've been watching GH for years, and I can usually figure out who is related to whom and how, but with Elizabeth and Lucas, I'm stumped. Are they related and, if so, how?

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Fellaway said:

Okay, this is driving me crazy. I've been watching GH for years, and I can usually figure out who is related to whom and how, but with Elizabeth and Lucas, I'm stumped. Are they related and, if so, how?

They aren't related. Lucas is Lucky's cousin, as Bobbie was Lucas' mother.

Lucas' bio parents were Cheryl (Tiffany's sister) and Julian Jerome.

[KittyQ]

Was that an inside storage space?  That hall didn't look as though it would be easy to get a car in there. 

So Alexis must have recognized there was still brake fluid leaking when she touched that puddle. Funny that someone (probably Ric) guessed that Alexis would look for the car.

Lucky is slipping from just not telling what he knows into active cover-up territory. Liz still thinks he's a great guy. Alexis should be careful, or she'll be disbarred a second time - I'm pretty sure she's also edging into becoming an accessory after the fact, and I think that is frowned on by the legal profession. 

           Lucky: "So somebody's lying"

           Me: Yes, EVERYONE, including you!

Well, all Lulu needed was someone (Cody) to tell her that he would have wanted to know about his biological parents to ignore all the good advice that others gave her to mind her own business. Of course, everyone in this town feels they could manage everyone else's lives better than the person themselves, so it isn't too surprising. 

 

[Fellaway]

1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

They aren't related. Lucas is Lucky's cousin, as Bobbie was Lucas' mother.

Lucas' bio parents were Cheryl (Tiffany's sister) and Julian Jerome.

Thank you! I remembered Lucas' father and his adopted parents but couldn't for the life of me remember his bio mother. They act related to me, but I guess it's supposed to just be a good friends relationship.

[YaddaYadda]

4 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Well, all Lulu needed was someone (Cody) to tell her that he would have wanted to know about his biological parents to ignore all the good advice that others gave her to mind her own business. 

Cody should have told Lulu that he had no interest in letting Mac know that he was his biological father because he was after the millions of dollars. He revealed himself as Dominique's son because he wanted half of Serena's money because he felt he was entitled to it.

I stopped watching today's show because how annoying everyone was. 

The Spencer clan is starting to wear real thin.

[JMO]

The relationship between Lucas and Liz has become my favorite on the show.  I am proud of Liz for having matured into a woman who is willing to be vulnerable enough to enter into a relationship but wise enough, and centered enough, not to let it define her.

On the other hand, I detest that they've brought Lucky back to much fanfare, only to have him hover at the edges, barely speaking with his family of origin, lying to Liz as a tool in the Kristina story, and never letting the Liz/Lucky with/without Aiden relationships deepen. 

I also detest that Dante only got a day of sanity between bouts of irrationally blaming Gio for something for which Gio is not responsible.

The relationship between Brook Lynn and Chase has been the winner in this adoption story.  They are open, honest, supportive and both vulnerable and strong.  Never thought I would think that, let alone say it.

Lulu is too trusting of her spidey senses.  Yes, we know that she has correctly identified Gio as Dante's child, but she doesn't have enough information to reach that conclusion herself.  And she shouldn't be accusing Brook Lynn of lying, again without enough info.  I did think it was worth Cody sharing his point of view, but Lulu should have seen it as what it is, a single perspective.  

I have friends on both sides of the adoption issue, both those who were adopted and those who adopted their own.  There are all sorts of permutations of who knew what, when, who received the info well and who didn't, which includes the adoptive parents, the adoptees, and the half-siblings who may or may not have known about their older, adopted sibling.  It's messy, some of it is sad, and some of it is wonderful.  Just like everything else in life.  

Alexis and Lucky don't seem any smarter than Kristina at the moment.  Wise up, people.

 

[statsgirl]

We know that Willow held Michael`s medical Power of Attorney at the time of injury. Who holds his legal PoA? Because it's usually the same person, and in order for the divorce court case to go ahead, it would need Michael's permission. Did Diane just fake Carly having it? She's more self-protective than that.

8 hours ago, rur said:

She's apparently renting it out to friends and family as an event space. 

Well she hasn't actually made any money from her journalism yet and houses cost moey.

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

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1 minute ago

I hated everything about this episode.

I LOVED the fact that Ava and Ric were smart enough to know Alexis was going to go to the storage facility and got there before and left her the note!!

I take it back: I liked this part, and the Elizabeth/Lucas chat. But everything else was frustrating.

[TVbitch]

With all today's "Lucky always leaves" talk, I just had to ask AI when Jonathan Jackson's contract expires and the answer was eye opening. I'll put it in spoiler....

Spoiler

Jonathan Jackson is temporarily stepping away from his role as Lucky Spencer on General Hospital, with his absence starting on December 18, 2025. While the show's producers have stated that this is a short-term departure, some sources speculate that Jackson may not return at all due to creative differences or other career opportunities. During his absence, Guy Wilson will take over the role of Lucky Spencer. Fans are eagerly waiting to see whether Jackson will make a comeback or if this marks a permanent change for the character.

BLQ's anguish over the baby she gave up would be a lot more meaningful if it had ever come up before, such as when she and Chase were pretending to be  parents to Maxi's infant. Of course Gio only really came into existence a short while ago in the writer's minds, so it is hard for me to care, and I end up just hating how they manipulate/ruin a bunch of other characters to make it work. This is why it's so dumb to do these complete historical rewrites.

[tessaray]

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

LOVED the fact that Ava and Ric were smart enough to know Alexis was going to go to the storage facility and got there before and left her the note!!

So did I. The aftermath with Alexis and Lucky was a nice change of pace too. 

I wanted to like the scene with Cody and Lulu (they have a nice low key chemistry) but sheesh, could Lulu be any more obnoxious? 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, TVbitch said:

With all today's "Lucky always leaves" talk, I just had to ask AI when Jonathan Jackson's contract expires and the answer was eye opening. I'll put it in spoiler....

DA FUCK????? IF it's true, I go with the first reason.

It's why he left last time.

And

 

that bland no-nothing to replace JJ?!!!!!!

Edited Thursday at 11:55 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[Sake614]

Well that spoiler fairly sucks! I shouldn’t be at all surprised but it still sucks.

[Cheyanne11]

That's literally seven months away, LOL.  Taking it with a grain of salt.

In other news, Lulu STILL SUCKS.  Maybe even more than ever.  The amount of smug that she thinks she's got something on "Brook Lynn the liar" is off the charts.  

I can't believe (but I guess I can) that Lois even lied about Gio's birthday.  That kid is going to meltdown when he finds out his whole life has been one big lie, so congrats on that, Lulu.

[Artsda]

Lois is dispicable. She changed his birthday and he doesn't even know the day he was born, he's been celebrating a lie his entire life. 

Disgusting human who should not be forgiven by anyone. There should be know coming back for her. 

 

[Grinaldi]

That "spoiler" seems to be AI combining Michael's exit info from last year and some random crap it made up. No way would we have an actual final airdate for December, shows which have not been written or even conceived. Google AI also recommends pregnant women smoke 2-3 cigarettes a day. Don't trust anything that isn't capable of saying "I don't know."

[DanaK]

Musical artist YDE recruited for Nurse’s Ball. Never heard of her

https://deadline.com/2025/05/general-hospital-recruits-yde-nurses-ball-1236399347/

[KerleyQ]

So, Lois fabricated Gio's birth date by three weeks?  How does that even work?  Did she falsify his birth certificate?  Is that not a crime? 

I swear, if we end up with Liz thinking Lucky is hooking up with Kristina... 

Dante's anger at Gio is just so stupid.  Yeah, he's technically an adult, but most people his age don't have the life experience to always make the right call in some situations.  For a college kid, seeing someone get really drunk and just need to get some water and sleep it off is pretty common, and it makes complete sense that that is where Gio's mind went.  Cody is older and has more life experience. He's naturally going to be ore on top of the situation.  They could have tried coming up with, you know, a good reason for animosity between Dante and Gio.

Donna is adorable, even when she's being used as a prop in a stupid storyline. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

There’s a lot of retconning going on with Lucky and I HATE it. This “wanderlust” and the next adventure was cobbled and made up because JJ left the show after Jake’s “death” and when we saw him again a few years later, he was in this “dark place” and couldn’t stay in Port Charles. Hell. He and Elizabeth were no longer together. There were many years of happiness and stability when he was played by Vaughn, even if Vaughn was never Lucky for me.

But the lying HAS TO STOP. It’s clear to me that Frank and the other writes don’t care about Lucky, so he’s given SHIT writing. But I love JJ, so I’m still watching and hoping for better.

 

[driver18]

6 hours ago, Perkie said:

This is what will break them up and send him back to Africa.  They've had a mostly offscreen relationship.  I don't think they've even slept together, she nearly dies, he knows who did it, neither of them are seen onscreen for weeks, and then they're back and still stagnating, but she's telling Lucas that she doesn't think Lucky will stick around so she's worried about investing.  

I predict the truth that lucky knew and kept it from her will come out (at the Nurse's ball with everything else!!) and Lucky will be gone minutes later.  

I love JJ's Lucky. I love Lucky and Elizabeth, but I'm infuriated that Finn, and Finn and Elizabeth--Michael Easton's character and a couple that I also loved--were destroyed IN TWO WEEKS for this barely there return of L&L2. And a return that looks like it's on its way out soon.

GRRRR!! 🤬 😠 😡 

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I can't believe (but I guess I can) that Lois even lied about Gio's birthday.  That kid is going to meltdown when he finds out his whole life has been one big lie, so congrats on that, Lulu.

I agree that Lulu is being smug about what she found out.  However, Gio likely having a meltdown about his life and all the lies is entirely Lois and Gloria's fault. She found out recently and has not yet said anything to Gio, but even if she did, she's not the one who claimed to love him all the while betraying his trust. Lois and Gloria have chosen to lie to Gio, Brook Lynn and Dante's faces for 22 for years. 

As of now, we know (from a conversation with Chase) that the reason Brook Lynn never told Dante she had his baby is because when she tried to get him to cheat on Lulu with her, he was in love and uninterested. Brook Lynn has had dozens of opportunities to tell Dante the truth and Lois and Gloria have had countless opportunities to be honest as well. We know the reasons for keeping silent had nothing to do with them being scared Sonny as grandfather would endanger the child, so when the secret blows up it's really their own fault(s). 

[JMO]

Just want to throw out that there was a third person making the decision about whether Gio should know that he'd been adopted----his adoptive mother.  Ultimately, the decision was hers for the duration of her life, and if she didn't want him to know, it would have made it more difficult for Lois and Gloria to decide to go against her wishes, after the fact.  Not impossible, but difficult.

[StaceyNotStacie]

I’m surprised that Lulu didn’t just confront Lois and directly ask her if Gio was Brooklyn’s son.  Her reaction to the question would be answer enough.  
 

I’m a bit disappointed that MEK isn’t on right now.  I’m sure Martin would have been taunting Tracy about having family right in front of her nose and not knowing it. 

[ciarra]

For a car with its brakes cut, that sure was a large puddle that Alexis found.

#Team rAva, if only they weren't so greedy every five minutes.

Lulu is obsessed.  And Cody sucks.

[Perkie]

6 hours ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

I’m surprised that Lulu didn’t just confront Lois

Because while that would make sense, it won't give Lulu the satisfaction of ripping into Brook Lynn and being Ms Smug when BLQ falls apart and that her life gets turned upside down.  

The one good thing about this is that Chase knows all the details and is standing behind BLQ 100%.  

[sacrebleu]

22 hours ago, nilyank said:

My bigger question is how Lulu was able to afford that house. Is she renting or did she buy it.

Prior to moving in, she only has worked at Deception for a few months and is now only a freelance Girl Reporter.

I'm assuming that Maxie has been paying Lulu/ Dante rent for living in their home (the place Lulu lived pre-coma while Dante was in Turkey. 

Four years of rent would probably be a fair chunk of change.

I'm just wondering why Girl Reporter is trying to find the adoption agency when what she should be doing is getting a DNA sample from Gio to test against Dante. 

[YaddaYadda]

7 hours ago, JMO said:

Just want to throw out that there was a third person making the decision about whether Gio should know that he'd been adopted----his adoptive mother.  Ultimately, the decision was hers for the duration of her life, and if she didn't want him to know, it would have made it more difficult for Lois and Gloria to decide to go against her wishes, after the fact.  Not impossible, but difficult.

I disagree. The way Lois and Gloria have been acting, I think if Carmella wanted to tell Gio the truth about his birth, they wouldn't have let her.

The adoptive mother has been dead for several years, and from cancer to boot. Nothing was stopping them from telling Gio the truth about his birth. Lois could have gone to her daughter and told her everything and let her decide if she wanted Gio to know the truth. 

She did none of that. Instead they lied and continued to lie.

[ljr]

So the acts for the nurses ball are gio, Donna and Anna ? Boring

All of these people know about gio but not Dante , Ned or Olivia, or Sonny?

 

Get  this gio story over.

[CeChase]

15 minutes ago, ljr said:

So the acts for the nurses ball are gio, Donna and Anna ? Boring

All of these people know about gio but not Dante , Ned or Olivia, or Sonny?

 

Get  this gio story over.

I bet Drew strips.  Cameron seems very proud of his body on Instagram, so get ready. 

[YaddaYadda]

43 minutes ago, CeChase said:

I bet Drew strips.  Cameron seems very proud of his body on Instagram, so get ready. 

I'd be proud too, but ugh.

[dubbel zout]

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

That kid is going to meltdown when he finds out his whole life has been one big lie, so congrats on that, Lulu.

But, but, she's only telling the truth about everything. Stop being a hater.

10 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

So, Lois fabricated Gio's birth date by three weeks?  How does that even work?  Did she falsify his birth certificate?  Is that not a crime? 

I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies, but is three weeks difference really such a smoking gun?

9 hours ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

I’m surprised that Lulu didn’t just confront Lois and directly ask her if Gio was Brooklyn’s son.  Her reaction to the question would be answer enough.

Lulu is so convinced that BL is a world-class liar that I doubt it matter.

22 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

1 hour ago, CeChase said:

I bet Drew strips.  Cameron seems very proud of his body on Instagram, so get ready. 

I'd be proud too, but ugh.

So Magic Milo lives another year? Heavy sigh.

[ChicksDigScars]

14 hours ago, Artsda said:

Lois is dispicable. She changed his birthday and he doesn't even know the day he was born, he's been celebrating a lie his entire life. 

Disgusting human who should not be forgiven by anyone. There should be know coming back for her. 

 

And all the anger should be aimed at Lois and Gloria, not at BrookLynn, which is where I fear this is going. She doesn't deserve ANY of this. She made a hard decision that many teens make. Just like Lulu did, even though they both made different choices for the same problem. BOTH those choices should be seen and played as sympathetic, not vilified.  But, we have to prop ShrewLu. I can't decide if she's this unlikable and obnoxious because of the actress. I liked Lulu When JB played her, even when she acted like a spoiled brat. I was hit and miss with ER. But this Lulu seems to be really unlikable. At least this makes it totally believable that she and Carly (edited to include JOSS) are ALL from the same gene pool. 

 

Edited Friday at 03:48 PM by ChicksDigScars

[driver18]

Brooklyn is a world class liar. I like Lulu. I'm 100% on her side. Brooklyn tried to rape her husband. And now she finds out she's been keeping a child from him. Then she sends her cop husband after her to threaten her with jail illegally. Then she lies to Tracy about Lulu threatening her nonstop. Of course, Lulu is going to think the worst of her.

[GHScorpiosRule]

46 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Brooklyn is a world class liar. I like Lulu. I'm 100% on her side. Brooklyn tried to rape her husband.

Dante wasn't Lulu's husband at the time this happened.

This is the problem with retconning that messes up previous canon and what happened onscreen.

A good retcon, if you will, is when Nikolas showed up. Because Laura was offscreen for two years, and it made sense because we knew Stavros had kidnapped her. It didn't mess up the history of Luke and Laura on the run, or Luke, Laura, and Lucky living their lives, and on the run.

This Gio shit just gives me a fucking migraine. Not to mention it's stupid.

I tried giving Babe Alexa a chance. I liked her only when, as unbelievable as it was, her initial scenes escaping from that facility. She showed Spencer Spunk. Now she's back to being the original Mini-Cujo. Step Aside, spawn of Cujo. You're now number 2. The smug is so unattractive and takes me out of the scenes with Laura and Lucky. Just give me Laura and Lucky.

As to that "spoiler' upthread? Don't I feel like a numbnut. I skimmed over the part that stated "according to AI" meaning not a real source! It's why I continue to loathe AI/Generative AI, etc. It doesn't KNOW SHIT. So I stand corrected.

I also saw on JJ's Instagram, he'll be having a fan event in August. I hope SOMEONE will be allowed to ask what the HELL is going on with Lucky and can he tell them anything? Or will he toe Frank theAsshole's the Company Line? I'm betting the latter.

So OF COURSE I dreamed about Lucky and Elizabeth last night! Shut up. DON'TJUDGEMEEEEE!

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, ChicksDigScars said:

I can't decide if she's this unlikable and obnoxious because of the actress.

She was always this unlikable and obnoxious. ER's Lulu was just a continuation of her Abby Newman character, but Lulu has always been unbearable to me.

[CeChase]

1 hour ago, ChicksDigScars said:

And all the anger should be aimed at Lois and Gloria, not at BrookLynn, which is where I fear this is going. She doesn't deserve ANY of this. She made a hard decision that many teens make. Just like Lulu did, even though they both made different choices for the same problem. BOTH those choices should be seen and played as sympathetic, not vilified.  But, we have to prop ShrewLu. I can't decide if she's this unlikable and obnoxious because of the actress. I liked Lulu When JB played her, even when she acted like a spoiled brat. I was hit and miss with ER. But this Lulu seems to be really unlikable. At least this makes it totally believable that she and Carly are from the same gene pool. 

 

I feel the same way, and also am trying to figure out if it's the writing, the direction, or the actress.  It comes down to; this isn't a good recast for me.  I find her intolerable and am going to start fast forwarding her scenes.  I hope they reunite her with Dante, another asshole. 

23 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

She was always this unlikable and obnoxious. ER's Lulu was just a continuation of her Abby Newman character, but Lulu has always been unbearable to me.

For me, this one is much worse than Emme's.  Maybe not JBL's though.  But...there's zero nuance in this performance.  However, I was never a Lulu fan. 

Edited Friday at 03:23 PM by CeChase

[StaceyNotStacie]

3 minutes ago, CeChase said:

I feel the same way, and also am trying to figure out if it's the writing, the direction, or the actress.  It comes down to; this isn't a good recast for me.  I find her intolerable and am going to start fast forwarding her scenes.  I hope they reunite her with Dante, another asshole. 

For me, this one is much worse than Emme's.  Maybe not JBL's though.  But...there's zero nuance in this performance.  However, I was never a Lulu fan. 

I wasn’t around for the original adult Lulu, but didn’t care for Emme’s Lulu.  Alexa seemed like she tried in the beginning, but with this storyline she has morphed back into Babe, who was smug and unlikable no matter how much they tried to make her a heroine.  

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

13 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

So, Lois fabricated Gio's birth date by three weeks?  How does that even work?  Did she falsify his birth certificate?  Is that not a crime? 

I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies, but is three weeks difference really such a smoking gun?

For me, it's more just yet another lie Lois (and Gloria) perpetuated.  I assume because if Gio had the same birhtday as BL's baby maybe she would've questioned things?  Truly evil.  Make no mistake, the villain in this entire scenario is Lois (and Gloria).

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I assume because if Gio had the same birhtday as BL's baby maybe she would've questioned things? 

Ah, that reason makes surprising sense. It doesn't explain how the birth certificate might have been altered, but, you know, details.

Edited Friday at 03:49 PM by dubbel zout

[KittyQ]

So, Lulu knows how angry Dante is with Gio about Rocco's overdrinking. Will she attempt to help them reconcile BEFORE she blows up the secret, blurting out to Dante that he has 2 sons? You'd think that seeing the antagonism now she would back off her crusade to do Dante a favor by letting him know that the guy he really hates right now is actually his son. As they say, with friends like this, who needs enemies?

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Lulu is so convinced that BL is a world-class liar 

Brook Lynn is a world class liar. It's not all "my history." After a ONS with Valentin, she manipulated him with a fake pregnancy and let Lulu's daughter believe she was a big sister. That storyline (while Lulu was comatose) has been white-washed because she and Maxie formed a plan to protect newborn Bailey Lou from Peter/Heinrich, but the fact is Brook Lynn is not the super strong, wonderful, selfless woman that Chase and Lois are determined to see her as.

3 hours ago, ChicksDigScars said:

And all the anger should be aimed at Lois and Gloria, not at BrookLynn, which is where I fear this is going. She doesn't deserve ANY of this. 

Dante has every right to be angry that she decided not to tell him she gave birth to his son because she was disappointed/ego hurt that he chose to be faithful to then-girlfriend Lulu rather than wanting her when she tried to seduce and then rape him for a payout from Carly. 

In Lulu's shoes, I wouldn't want Brook Lynn around my kids unless absolutely necessary. I have empathy for scared teenage Brook Lynn. However, as an adult she has lied to and manipulated family and friend(s) she claims to love and value in her life, for self-serving purposes such as financial gain.  We know that she believes her son was placed for adoption via that agency, but it's not a huge leap for Lulu to think she probably lied again to cover for Lois.

Edited Friday at 04:35 PM by Bringonthedrama

[KerleyQ]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Ah, that reason makes surprising sense. It doesn't explain how the birth certificate might have been altered, but, you know, details.

I'm assuming she had to have falsified the birth certificate, otherwise, Gio would have eventually found out his real birth date. He wouldn't be able to get a license that had the fake date on it if his birth certificate didn't have that date.  

If BLQ gave birth in a hospital, they would have issued a birth certificate at that point for the correct information.  So, a birth certificate for a baby boy with the correct information probably exists out there.  To get Gio's with the fake info, did they pretend he was an unattended home birth?  Even then, a quick google search tells me that to get the birth certificate issued, they'd still need to provide some evidence - proof of medical care during the pregnancy, witnesses to the birth, etc.  Absent that, if they tried to claim that Gio's mom didn't get medical care at all throughout the pregnancy, there would probably still be some proof required. Physical examination of the mother and baby, for example, which would not work, since doctors would be able to tell that she hadn't recently given birth and that Gio was older than they were claiming. 

I've probably given this way more thought than the writers have.